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As to which ROM to get?
So many new developers with new ROMs which is great but how do I choose which is best for me?
I'm currently on GingerReal 8.0 and it's quite slow in comparison to my other recently flashed ROMs but it's OK for now.
What I want is an overall nice ROM; speed, looks and battery life are all as important as each other for me.
What is your favourite ROM and why is it better than the others?
Thanks for your help guys
This thread is going to start a flame war !
there is no better / worse ROMs out there, they are all unique in their own little way..
The only advice i can give you (and im sure many others will agree) Is you search the development section carefully. Pick out a few ROMs you like the sound of, Flash them on your device, and have a little play...
Read the comments, see what people are saying about it, Weigh up the pro's and con's.. And make your decision based upon your results..
There are LOTS of ROMs out there, it would take a lifetime (over exaggerating) to try them all.. So its important you find a ROM that meets your expectations.
Hope this helps good luck
azzledazzle said:
This thread is going to start a flame war !
there is no better / worse ROMs out there, they are all unique in their own little way..
The only advice i can give you (and im sure many others will agree) Is you search the development section carefully. Pick out a few ROMs you like the sound of, Flash them on your device, and have a little play...
Read the comments, see what people are saying about it, Weigh up the pro's and con's.. And make your decision based upon your results..
There are LOTS of ROMs out there, it would take a lifetime (over exaggerating) to try them all.. So its important you find a ROM that meets your expectations.
Hope this helps good luck
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Thanks for the reply,
And I guess that's what I will have to do to find the ROM for me!
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Thanks for the reply,
And I guess that's what I will have to do to find the ROM for me!
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its the only way mate, if i was to tell you "choose MIUI its the best", Then a darky user will come over and say "No its not, darky's is the best"
And then a simply honey user says, "no mines the best"..... the list goes on, Before you know it we are all arguing like little kids...
it gets us no where... !
Have fun
It's hard to hold one rom over another. Each offer features which some want and others don't need or want.
It's especially hard at the moment, as we're in what a appears to be a very active developement firmware development cycle at Samsung.
Though in the past Darky's rom was a safe bet for beginners, offering a decent mix of extra features along with stability and speed improvements over stock roms, their roms in the gingerbread era have lacked polish.
Then we have cyanogen based roms which are independent of the samsung devlopement cycle but are for advanced flashers who like to flash every other day it would seem.
TL;DR
Pick the rom which suits you. I like Surface at the moment. It suits my needs. But i'm on the precipace of flashing a cyanogen based rom
Just say 1 2 3 4 and choose 1
+ 1 to all of the above, roms are like wine, get out and taste them
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Yeah, +1 too.
Just wanted to add that if you want a really smooth and fast phone, after reading the roms threads, I give you the advice of reading the custom kernel threads too...
The kernel is, in my opinion, the best way to have a smoother phone.
I think you can have the rom you want (design and functionalities wise) but if you want smoothness, stability and / or good battery usage, you will have to carefully choose the kernel you want...
For CM7 roms, I don't know the kernels...
But for Samsung roms, the 3 best kernels of the moment, in my opinion (because they are in active development and the devs are working really really really ****ing hard...) are Talon (performance, stability, energy), Galaxian (performance) and Semaphore kernels (stability).
Hope it will help !
Hi everyone !
There's quite some interesting roms for our LG Optimus 2x. I've been using stock, then DjangoManouche (for quite some time), then MIUI v5 (using it right now). MIUI seemed a good idea at the time, but honestly it's quite inusable, very heavy. So I'm looking for a nice and lightweight rom, which could be used with my LG specs, here :
JB preferred, kowalski kernel actually, new bootloader with 30b baseband.
Problem is, there are so much roms I have no idea where I should start ...
So, could you please share what you think i should give a try ?
Thank you !
I don't know about the baseband, but you should check mostly up to date roms, like tonyps' the ROM, cm10.1 t-build, pa by the same tony or cm10.1 by pengus. You could also try slim roms by djnoxd. If i remember correctly, all of them are pretty much lightweight, comes with kowalski kernel. I like the slim rom color inversion, but other roms are nice too. You should try them and see which one appeals you most. Good luck!
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Check my signature. Very nice ROM I am sure you will like
hmm ... 2 answers already, and 2 suggesting slim* roms. I think that's the way to go then
Seems there are multiple versions ? Anyway, thank you both of you for your advices, I will try it and come back to close this topic with result and feedback.
Again, thank you !
Ahh, I see a fellow "let's find the best" rom-flasher. I am more or less exactly like you. I even installed the latest MIUI just yesterday. But after having this device for some time, I found my sweet spot. Yes, MIUI is heavy(I even disabled some built in apps, but still wasn't good enough), ICS doesn't quite cut it, 2.3 is way too old for me to enjoy, and 4.4 is not perfect. I found my sweet spot to be TonyP's Clean CM10.2. I use it with the Android 4.4 kitkat theme and Nova Launcher. That combined with Greenify does the job quite beautifully. As for SlimBean, I didn't test it, but I see a lot of users are enjoying it. Search. That's my advice. I used every available rom on here, just to find my preference. For now, I'm waiting for CM11 and the 3.1 kernel to be fully operable, and then I'll probably switch to CM11. All in all, you've got everything you need.
Thanks for your advice NoDze. Topic is a bit more specialized, as I'm searching for the lightweight rom, not the best. I honestly can't try them all but I guess I can't really avoid it at some point. So, thanks for sharing your setup, that's another one to considerate :good:
didli said:
Thanks for your advice NoDze. Topic is a bit more specialized, as I'm searching for the lightweight rom, not the best. I honestly can't try them all but I guess I can't really avoid it at some point. So, thanks for sharing your setup, that's another one to considerate :good:
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By definition, a lightweight rom should be one with only basic stuff implemented, like phone, messaging and stuff, and furthermore, it would be nice that such one is as AOSP as possible. Tony's The ROM, for example, is in my opinion bloated with features, and that's why I avoid it. I, myself, remove all applications that I consider unusable fro the zip, prior to flashing. SlimRom, as much as the name might imply, is in my opinion full of additional features for which I find no need. It is a great rom, nevertheless, but everyone has its own preference. You can even try the good old "Look Ma" CM10 by Pengus. That ROM has only basic stuff, clean CM and I often hear here on the forums that by flashing KK M1, it's a beast. I mean, asking which ROM is the best is really as if you're asking what superhero is the best in a comicbook store. As for lightweight: OptiX(ICS), LookMa(CM10),SlimBean(CM10.1, CM10.2). I know you knew all this, but I just wanted to provide further info.
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By definition, a lightweight rom should be one with only basic stuff implemented, like phone, messaging and stuff(...)
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'Seems quite a good definition to me . That's what i was searching for. SlimBean answered the call. For now, it rocks It was able to withstand everything I've thrown at it, plus the installation was smooth, fast, and easy. Indeed, there's a lot of features i'm not going to use, but it doesn't seem to affect speed (so far). Everything is working (i mean Camera, Photo, Wifi etc) and LG2x is very well responding.
Curiously, the only things a bit out were native android launchers : i've tried the one that comes with slimbean and the 4.4 launcher, and i experienced some problems with both of them rapidly (some slowdown, crashes). Apex launcher fixed that, but i'm not sure why android launchers were so slow.
Then, thank you again for your answers and your infos. Acknowledged, received, and saved
[Troll mode /on] And by the way, everyone in a comic shop should know that wolverine is the best superhero ever created... mwhouhahah [Troll mode /off]
Which is in your opinion the best rom to flash on the nexus 6 having stability no bugs and features????
Opinions pls
I think you'll find that for the most part, the majority of the ROMs here are pretty stable, but in the end it's up to you to decide which one you'll stay on. It's a very subjective choice
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I think you'll find that for the most part, the majority of the ROMs here are pretty stable, but in the end it's up to you to decide which one you'll stay on. It's a very subjective choice
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At that my friend, answers this question perfectly.
Liquid smooth
Or as stated any.
There is no best Rom like what eggydrums said. Asking this question is like going into a car store and asking what's the best car. One rom doesn't fit everybody's needs. Some people look for minimalism, or features, or whatever. There is no best Rom. Every rom has its own unique features, pros, cons.
But if you're looking for opinions, obviously I'd say my rom chroma. I provide support and literally reply to every reply in the rom thread. But it contains the essentials, nothing more and nothing less. Doesn't fit everybody's needs.
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There're several ROMs which you can flash in order to see which one do you like the most
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There is no best Rom like what eggydrums said. Asking this question is like going into a car store and asking what's the best car. One rom doesn't fit everybody's needs. Some people look for minimalism, or features, or whatever. There is no best Rom. Every rom has its own unique features, pros, cons.
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I usually just post this from evernotes
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
@rootSU I was thinking about making a copy paste of certain faq. Certainly not a bad idea haha. Usually threads with best are not allowed on xda as well
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@rootSU I was thinking about making a copy paste of certain faq. Certainly not a bad idea haha. Usually threads with best are not allowed on xda as well
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xda let best threads exist as of several months ago
So if we say a rom that is not encrypted and has the ability to recive updates so i dont have to flash everytime , and also has nice features that stock lolipop has not, wich one would you guys recomend?
Dumped my Verizon Note 4 because lack of root and what not! Picked up my Nexus 6 today! Whats the best ROM currently? I know all have different benefits and what not I am mainly looking for battery life and good performance.
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Dumped my Verizon Note 4 because lack of root and what not! Picked up my Nexus 6 today! Whats the best ROM currently? I know all have different benefits and what not I am mainly looking for battery life and good performance.
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question go into the q&a section, not into general.
and besides that point, theres no such thing as best rom, not on a nexus anyways. all our roms have access to source, so there's no hacking needed to get it running, unlike for other phones. besides the fact that battery life and performance isnt up to roms. battery life all depends on your use and the quality of your network data/phone signal. and performance would be attributed to how you set up your cpu. as there are many differing ideas how to set up your cpu, that would be all depending on you.
edit.. i asked a mod to move the thread into q&a. go one with the thread normally now
There is no best ROM. Look what's out there and determine that what is the "best" ROM for you based on developer to user feedback, amount of updates, amount of features, stability, user feedback, etc.
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
rootSU said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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I know there isnt a "best" rom. Guess I should have worded it differently lol. Thank you for all that insight though. Ive rooted and run custom roms before and loved it. Just out of the loop a bit.
I run stock ROM, rooted and encrypted. I use Franco Kernel because it has the features I want, and he's written an excellent companion app to keep the kernel up to date, as well as let you easily adjust kernel settings. Good stuff.
When a stable CM12 is out for N6, I'll probably switch to that. Running CM12 nightlies on my N7 LTE with good success, but I need the "guaranteed" stability of a milestone release for my phone.
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I run stock ROM, rooted and encrypted. I use Franco Kernel because it has the features I want, and he's written an excellent companion app to keep the kernel up to date, as well as let you easily adjust kernel settings. Good stuff.
When a stable CM12 is out for N6, I'll probably switch to that. Running CM12 nightlies on my N7 LTE with good success, but I need the "guaranteed" stability of a milestone release for my phone.
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lol!
its cm, there's no guaranteed stability with any version. there are nightlies that are more stable than any milestones.
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I run stock ROM, rooted and encrypted. I use Franco Kernel because it has the features I want, and he's written an excellent companion app to keep the kernel up to date, as well as let you easily adjust kernel settings. Good stuff.
When a stable CM12 is out for N6, I'll probably switch to that. Running CM12 nightlies on my N7 LTE with good success, but I need the "guaranteed" stability of a milestone release for my phone.
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lol!
its cm, there's no guaranteed stability with any version. there are nightlies that are more stable than any milestones.
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Agreed.. a stable build is generally one with more fixes put into it vs checked in features.
The only stable rom is whatever google puts out because they have the resources to actually do QA and testing.
More than the CM maintenance person for our device can do anyways.
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lol!
its cm, there's no guaranteed stability with any version. there are nightlies that are more stable than any milestones.
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lol
Absolutely agree! (thus having "guaranteed" in quotes) But with a "stable" release, you're less likely to encounter a show-stopper in my experience.
For instance, the other day, I put the latest nightly on my N7, and it killed it. It would boot okay, but System UI would crash constantly. Accept the error message, and crash again. I turned it off at that point, and flashed the next nightly the day after. Problem solved.
Now, the last nightly I successfully installed broke recovery, and the new nightlies won't flash. I haven't bothered fixing that yet because the nightly on it right now is generally playing nice with everything.
My N6 is personal, but I use it a lot for work. I need to know that it's going to work every time I grab it. I just can't be sure of that with a nightly.
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Absolutely agree! (thus having "guaranteed" in quotes) But with a "stable" release, you're less likely to encounter a show-stopper in my experience.
For instance, the other day, I put the latest nightly on my N7, and it killed it. It would boot okay, but System UI would crash constantly. Accept the error message, and crash again. I turned it off at that point, and flashed the next nightly the day after. Problem solved.
Now, the last nightly I successfully installed broke recovery, and the new nightlies won't flash. I haven't bothered fixing that yet because the nightly on it right now is generally playing nice with everything.
My N6 is personal, but I use it a lot for work. I need to know that it's going to work every time I grab it. I just can't be sure of that with a nightly.
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thats one reason i dirty flash all the time(not cm, but an aosp rom). if an update is no good, things crash and such, i just reflaah the older version(right in top, and it boots up fine again. no wiping anything. also, and most importantly, make a backup in recovery. that way if an update is no good, all you have to do is restore that backup, and all will be like before you flashed it. i used to be a cm fanboy, from day one to about 3-4 years ago. and i know cm really well. many times a nightly could be much more stable then a milestone
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Dumped my Verizon Note 4 because lack of root and what not! Picked up my Nexus 6 today! Whats the best ROM currently? I know all have different benefits and what not I am mainly looking for battery life and good performance.
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Nothing is best here That completely depends on you taste. I like Parandroid cause of the perfection it comes with. Even Alpha version is much stable than most of the ROM's beta version. It completely depends on your personal taste
I won't get into the whole "best ROM" debate. I like CM, but saw that it might not be ready for prime time on this phone on VZW? Something about it causing bricks...
Anyway, I do actually like the stock Google experience, but was wondering if there are better kernels to run, that perhaps improve performance and battery life, with the stock ROM?
My bootloader is unlocked, but I have not rooted it yet, just decrypted the file system, that's it.
Any thoughts?
There are plenty of Kernels, just have a look in the development sections. Also, there are plenty of better roms than cm out there...
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There are plenty of Kernels, just have a look in the development sections. Also, there are plenty of better roms than cm out there...
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Without opening a can of worms... any recommendations?
What I look for is simplicity, elegance and beauty coupled with the best performance.
I don't like the ROMs that have every option under the sun... I don't care what font or gradient my notification bar is... I don't need PIE controls or a dozen other things that makes the ROM take forever to set up and makes it far too busy...
I like stock, but prettier, smoother and better, if that makes sense.
best anything doesn't exist. every person on XDA has a recommended kernel, and every person will name a different kernel. so there is no right answer for you. what you should do is try out a bunch of different kernels then stay with the one you enjoy. for me, it doesn't matter which kernel, since I like to set up my CPU my way. generally, kernel are mostly similar, except they all set up the CPU in differing ways. find the way that YOU enjoy.
Most kernels can be tweaked to get the same performance. It is what they are set to fresh off of a flash that may be different. However if you want some suggestions, I personally like hellscore (have to get off google+), zen, and recently elementalx.
no, its not me who wants suggestions.. i think you quoted the wrong person :silly:
Indeed I did. Nice catch
Yeah, I would like a suggestion for a ROM that:
1) Simple
2) Elegant
3) Prettier than stock
4) Not too busy
5) 100% functionality, no broken or missing features
6) Fast with solid battery life
battery life is up to you, 100%. battery life is determined by how you set up the device, which apps you install, how you personally use your device, and by the quality of your phone/data signal. everything else is not that important for battery. it does not matter which ROM you use, nor kernel, battery life is mostly up to you. ROMs and kernels do not decide your battery life. on any ROM or kernel, there will be someone with great battery life, and even more with so so or bad battery life.
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Yeah, I would like a suggestion for a ROM that:
1) Simple
2) Elegant
3) Prettier than stock
4) Not too busy
5) 100% functionality, no broken or missing features
6) Fast with solid battery life
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Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/orig-development
Look through the more active threads. Read the OP and see if you find the features listed that you require. Read the users comments to see real time results.
That is the best way to find what's best for YOU.
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Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/orig-development
Look through the more active threads. Read the OP and see if you find the features listed that you require. Read the users comments to see real time results.
That is the best way to find what's best for YOU.
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Yeah, but that is a whole process. I would rather take a suggestion from someone who has tried them... Yes, I am being lazy. LOL
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Yeah, but that is a whole process. I would rather take a suggestion from someone who has tried them... Yes, I am being lazy. LOL
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just pick any kernel at random, itll be the exact same as any stranger telling you which kernel they run.
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Yeah, but that is a whole process. I would rather take a suggestion from someone who has tried them... Yes, I am being lazy. LOL
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Well, in that case, I'm currently running Dirty Unicorns. Works pretty solid for my needs.
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just pick any kernel at random, itll be the exact same as any stranger telling you which kernel they run.
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No, I meant for a suggestion for a ROM. I gave a list of what I was looking for, and even in reading the various threads, it is hard to tell which one is closest to what I am looking for... I don't want to spend countless hours with trial and error.
Looking for something closer to stock, simple, elegant, prettier, smoother, better. I don't like ROM's that have so many customization options that you spend more time fiddling with it than you spend using it, you know?
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No, I meant for a suggestion for a ROM. I gave a list of what I was looking for, and even in reading the various threads, it is hard to tell which one is closest to what I am looking for... I don't want to spend countless hours with trial and error.
Looking for something closer to stock, simple, elegant, prettier, smoother, better. I don't like ROM's that have so many customization options that you spend more time fiddling with it than you spend using it, you know?
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i use terminus. because its built by a good friend, has everything i need, its not bloated, and everything always works as it should. oh, and layers works on it, so you can theme it as you wish.