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TMO G1, No sound from rear speaker.

Yesterday, my phone stopped making audio notifications and playing the ringtones when I get calls, it just vibrates. Overnight I did a clean install of CM4.2.13 and still nothing. No audio will play out of it EXCEPT when I answer a phone call, just as I hit talk it will play just the tiniest snippet of my ringtone so I'm fairly certain that there's no hardware damage. Calls go through fine on the earpiece speaker and the microphone is working too.
I've scoured the nets for a solution and found none except one person mentioned something about the radio. Is it possibly that with flashing tons of roms that the radio might become damaged and that I should reinstall it?
I also tried installing the G1 audio hack in hopes that it might right the ship but still nothing. That's all I can think of!
I've looked at every setting and open process for a clue and nothing. There's only one or two diff places I've read about a G1 phone having this issue and from what I read it sounds exactly the same so I'm not totally alone.
Any help would be GREAT. THANKS!

just out of curiosity, when you say you did a clean install do you mean you simply wiped and installed it? Or did you wipe, install the Base, then the new rom?

I wiped everything I could using the RA-1.4 and formatted my SD card.
What would you recommend doing?

if theres no sound, Even when in speaker phone, U might have blown the speaker. Not sure where its sold at...

I have a same problem. Any ideas?

Bump bump ba-dump.

DMAthlon said:
No audio will play out of it EXCEPT when I answer a phone call, just as I hit talk it will play just the tiniest snippet of my ringtone so I'm fairly certain that there's no hardware damage. Calls go through fine on the earpiece speaker and the microphone is working too.
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That sounds a lot like hardware damage to me. Your speaker might be fine but the connections to the speaker could very easily be damaged causing only part of the signal to get through.
If you did a full wipe of your phone too (including the radio/SPL) then i would certainly say it isn't a software problem.

Yes, I've wiped EVERYTHING. I actually reverted back to stock everything and then did a CM install.

Got the same problem here.
No sound from rear speaker. It would come on occasionally, when i knock it around a bit but but not for long. At times i can hear it making a really, really tiny sound when i play an mp3. I have to put it right up to my ear to actually hear anything. But most of the time there is nothing coming out the back speaker at all.
Doing a google search on this im surprised at how common this problem actually is and still no one knows whats causing it or how to fix it.
Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated.
Cheers

Found a fix for my problem!
I played an mp3. Than while playing around with phone i noticed that if i give it a little twist sound would come back on. I then took off the back cover and realized that if push the battery in very slightly i would get sound! So all i did was stick a piece of double sided tape to the back of my battery and that seems to have taken care of this issue!
Man, im i glad to see that one sorted out!
Hope this is of help to anyone!

So it's a dodgy connection? I must say, the G1 isn't the most well-made phone ever ><

Meltus said:
So it's a dodgy connection? I must say, the G1 isn't the most well-made phone ever ><
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Yep! Looks that way. Im about to open it up and see what the situation is.

Found the problem!
Opened up the phone last night. Took out the problem speaker. It has 2 springs comin out of it, which are supposed to make contact with the board. All i did was strech them a little and all is good now. Even took out the piece of tape that i had stuck on the battery for a quick fix.
Hope this helps.

[Q] Speaker mystery

Hello everyone. A few days ago I started having a problem with my cappy, and I can't put my finger on the cause.
My speaker stopped working. Partially. When I'm on the phone with someone, I can't hear anything from them. If I turn the loudspeaker on, I can hear them just fine. Phone rings and notifies me of smses but I can't hear anything else. I don't hear music or video playing on the phone or the alarm clock.
In short, Working: In-call loud speaker, sms and calls.
Not working: everything else - music, alarm clock, in-call sound.
In summery, I can't decide if it's a software or a hardware problem.
I'm running CM 10.1 M2 with devil 4.2.
I should also note that I disassembled my phone to try and apply the
"loosen the screw" fix on the speaker assembly with no luck, nothing changed.

I think both. Earpiece and speakers are different devices.
Hardware - earpiece, software - speakerphone alarms, music etc.
One simple idea: take a piece of something thin, like needle and clean 3.5mm port.
I had almost-same issue 1 year ago. just dust formed wool and began shorting contacts inside port.

Yuna said:
I think both. Earpiece and speakers are different devices.
Hardware - earpiece, software - speakerphone alarms, music etc.
One simple idea: take a piece of something thin, like needle and clean 3.5mm port.
I had almost-same issue 1 year ago. just dust formed wool and began shorting contacts inside port.
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Thank you for the reply. Let me get this straight, you suggest I clean the 3.5mm port even though earphones work fine? (I haven't mentioned this but with earphones, everything works properly).

earphones = headphones = ear plugs? no, not this.
> My speaker stopped working. Partially. When I'm on the phone with someone, I can't hear anything from them. If I turn the loudspeaker on, I can hear them just fine. Phone rings and notifies me of smses but I can't hear anything else. I don't hear music or video playing on the phone or the alarm clock.
Your phone has 2 speakers - front, and back.
As i understand, your front speaker (for usual calls) is malfunctioning.
And if you turn SpeakerPhone in call, then you can hear oponent?
Try to clear port, this wont hurt. But might fix issue. You don't need to disassemble phone, wooden match will do too for cleaning.
Just nothing wet, and don't do rough movements inside port.
It's a bit fragile.

gosha100 said:
Hello everyone. A few days ago I started having a problem with my cappy, and I can't put my finger on the cause.
My speaker stopped working. Partially. When I'm on the phone with someone, I can't hear anything from them. If I turn the loudspeaker on, I can hear them just fine. Phone rings and notifies me of smses but I can't hear anything else. I don't hear music or video playing on the phone or the alarm clock.
In short, Working: In-call loud speaker, sms and calls.
Not working: everything else - music, alarm clock, in-call sound.
In summery, I can't decide if it's a software or a hardware problem.
I'm running CM 10.1 M2 with devil 4.2.
I should also note that I disassembled my phone to try and apply the
"loosen the screw" fix on the speaker assembly with no luck, nothing changed.
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When it happened to me I had to re-seat the ribbon going from the speaker to the sim board. it is very sensitive and I had to do it twice before I got connection back....i just banged the phone around too much and the ribbon lost contact....After the ribbon is seated correctly then just don't tighten that screw too much as it will unseat the ribbon again.

So, gosha.
Anything fixed?

I did as you suggested Yuna, I tried cleaning the 3.5mm port but I'm afraid it had no effect.
Then I disassembled the phone again and as Rmntruexjr suggested, I tried re-seating the ribbon connecting the speaker module to the circuit board several times while the phone is turned on and I'm trying to play music throughout the ordeal. That didn't help either. As previously, ringers work and the loud speaker works but alarm clock, music and the front speaker for calls do not.
Does anyone know if the music and alarm clock are being played by the front or back speaker?
If they are played by the front speaker then the problem is obviously a malfunction in the front speaker and I should just get a new one. Otherwise, there is something weird going on and the back speaker only plays some of the sound and then I can't explain it.

music is played from back speaker.
stupid q: did you checked volume levels?

Yuna said:
music is played from back speaker.
stupid q: did you checked volume levels?
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Yup. Just to make sure, we are talking about System Settings -> Sound -> Volumes?
However, your question has just made me recheck all the settings and apparently the alarm clock does work!
The current situation is music and front speaker in-call sound doesn't work, but back speaker in call sound works and so do all of the ringers, notifications and alarms.

So, if you play music - no go? Try volume buttons in-playing.
There are 4 different volumes, and 1 hidden.
Front speaker might be broken. Try stock rom, if not helping - service.
And also in call try to adjust volume.
Try kernel with/without voodoo sound. Install/uninstall voodoo sound.

Yuna said:
So, if you play music - no go? Try volume buttons in-playing.
There are 4 different volumes, and 1 hidden.
Front speaker might be broken. Try stock rom, if not helping - service.
And also in call try to adjust volume.
Try kernel with/without voodoo sound. Install/uninstall voodoo sound.
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No go on the music, same with the volume buttons in call.
As for the kernel, I don't think there is a voodoo and cmc version for the 4.2 Devil kernel (for whatever reason), I only found one version of it - set me straight if i'm wrong.
I'll try rolling back and flashing CM 10.0, i'll see if it helps and report back.
Servicing the phone here is probably out of the question since i897's don't exist in my country, only i9000's so if it comes down to hardware, i'll just order a new speaker module from ebay and install it myself.

But to order, you must be sure its speaker itself.
Sounds like software issue now...
Crazyness...
Рус?

I'm actually surprised the ribbon trick didn't work. I know your issue sounds messed up, but what you describe is detail for detail what I was seeing. It made no sense what so ever to me how for instance no front speaker in call but still speaker phone worked, but then no music, yet alarm works....(i think the ribbon can lose contact on just the right side so you only get some things working).
Sorry it didn't work for you, but it might be worth it to try again if you exhaust all other possibilities. If you do, keep the phone off while trying to seat the ribbon(and make sure the little black fastener is all the way open(up) when inserting the ribbon). Then to test without putting it all back together I used an elastic to hold the battery and tested that way........
If it really does turn out to be the front speaker/jack/sensor unit, I found one last month on ebay for around $2 for a cappy with a bad Jack and it was fairly easy to replace.

For what it's worth, mine stopped working the other day for no reason. Hit it, and now it works. Just something to try (not too hard of course, just a light tap on the hand )

x0ne215 said:
For what it's worth, mine stopped working the other day for no reason. Hit it, and now it works. Just something to try (not too hard of course, just a light tap on the hand )
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Same issue....That is how mine started...I dropped it one day then I went to play music and the sound would just cut out for no reason it seemed...I could shake or tap on the phone and it would come back on for a while, then nothing again....for me, it was the speaker ribbon.

Ahh that's kinda crappy (no pun intended). As soon as I hit mine, it worked the whole time the phone wasn't bricked .
PS I keep getting outbid on these alltechwholesale auctions by the same guy -_-"

x0ne215 said:
Ahh that's kinda crappy (no pun intended). As soon as I hit mine, it worked the whole time the phone wasn't bricked .
PS I keep getting outbid on these alltechwholesale auctions by the same guy -_-"
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lol, it's not me I swear....:angel:

You suck lol, thought I'd have an easy fix one with just a bad speaker which I happen to have a working spare for! Damn lol.
Anyway, OP, if you continue to have a speaker problem, did you try swapping it out for a spare one?

Yuna said:
But to order, you must be sure its speaker itself.
Sounds like software issue now...
Crazyness...
Рус?
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So, I rolled back to CM 10.0 and no change, which means that it's probably a hardware issue, albeit, a very weird one.
And no, Israel.
rmntruexjr said:
I'm actually surprised the ribbon trick didn't work. I know your issue sounds messed up, but what you describe is detail for detail what I was seeing. It made no sense what so ever to me how for instance no front speaker in call but still speaker phone worked, but then no music, yet alarm works....(i think the ribbon can lose contact on just the right side so you only get some things working).
Sorry it didn't work for you, but it might be worth it to try again if you exhaust all other possibilities. If you do, keep the phone off while trying to seat the ribbon(and make sure the little black fastener is all the way open(up) when inserting the ribbon). Then to test without putting it all back together I used an elastic to hold the battery and tested that way........
If it really does turn out to be the front speaker/jack/sensor unit, I found one last month on ebay for around $2 for a cappy with a bad Jack and it was fairly easy to replace.
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I didn't realize earlier that you had the EXACT same problem so I'll give it another go. It's a good idea with the rubber band, I had to hold the battery throughout the ordeal last time. Even if I order one of these units on ebay now, it'll take about a month to arrive.
x0ne215 said:
You suck lol, thought I'd have an easy fix one with just a bad speaker which I happen to have a working spare for! Damn lol.
Anyway, OP, if you continue to have a speaker problem, did you try swapping it out for a spare one?
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I'm afraid I tried everything I could which relates to the common Cappy speaker malfunction, that's not it i'm afraid.
I spent 10 days in the desert prior to this malfunction so it's very possible sand caused something (there is sand inside the phone ) or I may have dropped it or something. I didn't want to mention this earlier so I don't throw you guys off straight into a hardware issue.

Well imo hardware is usually an easy fix, so long as it's not the main board (at that point it'd make more sense to just buy a new phone). Open the phone up (don't be scared, there's a tear-down guide on this section w/ pictures), take a can of compressed air, and lightly go over all of the parts inside the phone. Take care not to knock anything out of place. You may also want to re-connect all of the ribbon cables, just in case one came loose (very VERY high possibility). If you need any extra help you can pm me here or shoot me an email (I work in IT and do hardware repairs all the time ).

No sound at all

So, about 24h ago, my phone lost the ability to dispense and intake sound. Just like that. A peculiar thing is that only audio jack works.
I didn't drop it or hit it or damaged it in any way, nor did anyone else, the phone was with me all the time. It just stopped playing the sound whether it's a ringing or sms or a notif of any kind. Music don't play on speaker, and when a call happens, there is absolutely no sound on either end of the line.
I did a factory reset and a V20b reflash and everything else and... nothing helped
Is it a hardware fault?

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So, about 24h ago, my phone lost the ability to dispense and intake sound. Just like that. A peculiar thing is that only audio jack works.
I didn't drop it or hit it or damaged it in any way, nor did anyone else, the phone was with me all the time. It just stopped playing the sound whether it's a ringing or sms or a notif of any kind. Music don't play on speaker, and when a call happens, there is absolutely no sound on either end of the line.
I did a factory reset and a V20b reflash and everything else and... nothing helped
Is it a hardware fault?
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looks like a hardware fault to me, but it could be something pretty simple. It sounds like your saying the mic died also? this would narrow the issue down if so.

Did you have headphones plugged in before the issue?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

JoinTheRealms said:
looks like a hardware fault to me, but it could be something pretty simple. It sounds like your saying the mic died also? this would narrow the issue down if so.
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Yes, the mic died, too, because when called, the person on the other end gets no sound whatsoever from my part. It's the same the other way around, which is strange since the mic and ear speaker are on the opposite sides of the phone. What takes out both of them + the main speaker?
I recorded a film with camera while a moderate music played in the room, but there's nothing but crackling.
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Did you have headphones plugged in before the issue?
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Yes, maybe 3 hours before I noticed the problem the first time. I listened to music while outside.
If you're aiming at the phone thinks it has earphones always connected, it's not that. The phone clearly registers when they are plugged in and when they aren't by displaying, or not, the earphones icon in the notifbar.

Sounds like a weired issue to me. Once it happened, did you reboot the phone after this isue occured?
If I remember correctly, my old phone (not this one) had exactly same issue, I think rebooting and clearing cache and stuff (not sure if factory reset) fixed the issue. Worth a shot before going to fix the hardware

It's happened to me many times on my last Sony phone. Just keep jamming the headphones in and out and it should clear, the phone still thinks they're plugged in
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Heres the LG 4x service manual if your interested, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_oeOAvJTvExc3RiQnN0NGQtanc/edit?usp=sharing

Tcm9669 said:
Sounds like a weired issue to me. Once it happened, did you reboot the phone after this isue occured?
If I remember correctly, my old phone (not this one) had exactly same issue, I think rebooting and clearing cache and stuff (not sure if factory reset) fixed the issue. Worth a shot before going to fix the hardware
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Yes, a few times. Factory reset and V20b reflash, too (It was on official 4.1.2 anyway), and wiped all the partitions from boot menu.
Ben36 said:
It's happened to me many times on my last Sony phone. Just keep jamming the headphones in and out and it should clear, the phone still thinks they're plugged in
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As I stated in my previous post, phone detects the headphones the normal way when they are plugged in and displays the headphones icon in notification bar, and removes it when I pull them out. Furthermore, music players pause/stop playing the moment the phones are unplugged.
JoinTheRealms said:
Heres the LG 4x service manual if your interested, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_oeOAvJTvExc3RiQnN0NGQtanc/edit?usp=sharing
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Thanks, I'll have a look, but I'm not really sure what I can or should do.
The thing is, the phone is under a year old and has warranty, so I elect not to open it by myself... yet. Just don't want to leave it at the shop where it'll most certainly spend at least 10 days before anyone even looks at it (because of Easter and International Workers' Day). I'm also baffled by the fact that the ear speaker on top of the phone doesn't work. If it were just the bottom part, I would've gotten a replacement and switched it myself (one part holds both), but it's obviously something more complicated than that and I don't dare to discover what on my own.
In any case, I'll see what I can do about the problem after the holidays and I'll keep you apprised of the outcome.

Epilogue: The motherboard was faulty and they gave me a new phone.

N910T no sound at all, please help, WILL DONATE $20 IF SUCESSFULL

N910T 5.1.1 DOK2
Not sure how it happen, Just buy from a guy in Craigslist and find out it have no sound.
No sound at all ( that mean when turn on no sound, using the phone no sound, call no sound - the call app freeze or foreclose when call), YouTube foreclose when I hit play, sound recorder foreclose when I hit record ( look like any apps touch to the sound thing will foreclose when run)
I had tried other kernel but no luck.
At first I think it was water damage but when I look at water indicator it still white.
I ask the guy and he said the phone got like this because last update. Hard to believe ppl on CL but I have seen some phone lost sound because update too.
Serial number was null before, I have try to flash a new EFS and I get SN back.
Thanks a lots, I will donate $20 if anyone can help me solve this problem.

Install a custom ROM on it & test... Might be software related

Same thing happens. No luck with CM12
Voice recorder fails " internal application error. Microphone may be in use"
Look like all apps cant access the sound part? codec?

Water damaged phone?

At first I think it was water damage but when I look at water indicator it still white.
Second, if It got water damage why all the apps utilize sound fail? Maybe only one speaker or microphone fail when they get wet?
I ask the guy and he said the phone got like this because last update. hard to believe ppl on CL but I have seen some phone lost sound because update too.
Serial number was null before, I have try to flash a new EFS and I get SN back.

MB or Speakers and MIC
haminh said:
At first I think it was water damage but when I look at water indicator it still white.
Second, if It got water damage why all the apps utilize sound fail? Maybe only one speaker or microphone fail when they get wet?
I ask the guy and he said the phone got like this because last update. hard to believe ppl on CL but I have seen some phone lost sound because update too.
Serial number was null before, I have try to flash a new EFS and I get SN back.
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One way is trying another Motherboard or its the speaker and Microphone damage, you can try changing the Speaker and Mic to see it that works or get another MB.

Did you do a full odin to stock? Like completely wipe everything

Did you test the phone before you bought it?

Have you tried using a Bluetooth or wired headphone? If the previous owner used a cheap wired headphone and the tip of the headphone broke inside of the jack. Software on the phone is going to redirect all audio and mic to the headset jack. With no headset present it would render the internal microphone and internal speakers useless

_-..zKiLLA..-_ said:
Did you do a full odin to stock? Like completely wipe everything
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I did full Odin flash but no luck. But maybe have to supper wipe? Do you know anyway can completely wipe the phone and install new firmware?

miltongina said:
One way is trying another Motherboard or its the speaker and Microphone damage, you can try changing the Speaker and Mic to see it that works or get another MB.
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I dont think hardware problem, But I'll try, Thanks

bigapplevip said:
Have you tried using a Bluetooth or wired headphone? If the previous owner used a cheap wired headphone and the tip of the headphone broke inside of the jack. Software on the phone is going to redirect all audio and mic to the headset jack. With no headset present it would render the internal microphone and internal speakers useless
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The problem is the recorder app foreclose when I hit record. and any other app use sound like youtube will foreclose when I hit play too

bvzxa3 said:
Did you test the phone before you bought it?
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I didnt test very careful. That why I'm stuck here

bigapplevip said:
Have you tried using a Bluetooth or wired headphone? If the previous owner used a cheap wired headphone and the tip of the headphone broke inside of the jack. Software on the phone is going to redirect all audio and mic to the headset jack. With no headset present it would render the internal microphone and internal speakers useless
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There is no tip of headphone jack inside the phone, I tried with good headphone but no luck too.
All of the app use sound will foreclose when I hit play and sound recorder foreclose when I hit record

haminh said:
There is no tip of headphone jack inside the phone, I tried with good headphone but no luck too.
All of the app use sound will foreclose when I hit play and sound recorder foreclose when I hit record
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try downloading a mixer_paths.xml file it worked for me before,if you can't find the file for some reason i can e-mail it to you

I will try the "mixer_paths.xml" when I get home. I'm in business trip until middle of this month. Thank you guys for great help.

The "mixer_paths.xml" is not working. I will try to see if any hardware problem today.

haminh said:
The "mixer_paths.xml" is not working. I will try to see if any hardware problem today.
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The phone turn out is hardware issue. There is a small corrosion on the board.
Anyone in here offer anything for it before I sell it on ebay?

How to force audio to play with front speaker?

As the title saids. The reason to do so is my phone "thinks" that an earphone is connected, but there's actually no earphone connected. Now all the audio are played with the "earphone that doesn't exist", that means the speaker won't play anything other than alarms.
I searched for solution, and found an app called "headset toggle" on Google Play. It allowed me to play music with the back speaker, but that's useless. What annoys me is that when I receive a phone call, the audio is also played with the "earphone that doesn't exist". I wonder if anyone knows how to force the audio in phone calls to play with front speaker.
Btw I'm using cm12.1, so I do have root. I've also tried flashing different roms, even stock rom to see if it's a software issue, unfortunately it's not.
Also I've found a "front speaker only mod" here but the download link is broken. If anyone have downloaded it before can you share a copy to me?

Here,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.woodslink.android.wiredheadphoneroutingfix

Iekuta said:
Here,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.woodslink.android.wiredheadphoneroutingfix
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Thanks for the reply. I tried that app, it did what I want to do but it requires a ram consumpting background service. Please tell me if there's any other methods that doesn't require a background service. Thank you!:fingers-crossed:

Please, anyone knows a less ram consumpting method?

steveglowplunk said:
Please, anyone knows a less ram consumpting method?
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If i were you should buy earpiece jack i think. Mine was broken too and i live with that broken jack for 1month and ordered a new jack, repaired it and everything is working like charm. Still using it about 7 months and no problem.
Its so cheap on Aliexpress.

Iekuta said:
If i were you should buy earpiece jack i think. Mine was broken too and i live with that broken jack for 1month and ordered a new jack, repaired it and everything is working like charm. Still using it about 7 months and no problem.
Its so cheap on Aliexpress.
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Thanks for the suggestion. But I wanted to see if there's any software that allows me to switch between earphone and speaker mode. The phone could still play sounds through earphone after I plug one in, but it thought I still have an earphone connected after I remove the earphone.
Didn't quite understand what's an "earpiece jack" btw. Did you replace the whole earpiece of the phone?

steveglowplunk said:
Thanks for the suggestion. But I wanted to see if there's any software that allows me to switch between earphone and speaker mode. The phone could still play sounds through earphone after I plug one in, but it thought I still have an earphone connected after I remove the earphone.
Didn't quite understand what's an "earpiece jack" btw. Did you replace the whole earpiece of the phone?
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Yes i mean that, sorry for bad english :silly:
I totally understand your problem, it is the same problem happened to me
I suggest you because it's so easy to change the jack-port (whatever means lol).

Headset Toggle app