Looking on youtube I found this video about the hand over function on moto x being disabled on lollipop. Is that true? There are english captions on the video.
It was changed so that now you have to hold your hand over it for a few seconds.
It can be returned.. But not the same as on 444
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The entire reason it was changed was because the device was supposed to know when it was being turned over, or removed from your pocket, with he Nudge To Wake feature being used for when it's on a tabletop.
It never was a feature to begin with, it was a bug due to an overly sensitive proximity sensor that began when they released 4.4.4. (It did not exist in 4.2, or 4.4)
The original intent was to detect when the phone is removed from your pocket or flipped over (when laying face down) Nowhere did Motorola list this as a feature on the original Moto X.
This was a feature added to the Moto X2, because the Moto X2 has IR sensors on the front that the original Moto X does not have.
It now works as intended.
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Does anyone here knows how to test the sensor that activate the Intelligent Screen when the Moto X gets out of the pocket?
I've had some issues when I remove it to see these notifications or just check the time. The "flip" sensor works flawlessly, but the sensor that activate the screen after remove it from pocket is not working 90% of the time.
I think that is the lighting sensor that activate this move, but I'm not sure yet.
I had an Sony that have a menu that you can check all sensors to see if it's working. Maybe Motorola have some of that to.
Can anyone help me clear this issue? I'm not in the mood to leave for maintenance, since it's so new that I'm concern about the technical specialization of the team that may check it.
It's the forth day of usage and these past 3 I've had no issues with it. All other movements works fine tough.
Thanks all.
Mine does it mostly from accelerometer I think because I can have it sit on the desk but if I try to active the proximity sensor, it doesn't react.
I think there may be an issue with some phones with that 'remove from pocket' sensor. My first MotoMaker X would routinely be on (and in Facebook, Twitter, etc) when I pulled it out of my pocket. The newer MotoMaker X I have however, I never have that issue with.
According to some sources,
Nexus 6 will feature "Ambient Display" which is supposed to be the Lollipop equivalent of Active Display / Moto Display.
According to this website though (bgr.com/2014/10/21/android-5-0-features-ambient-display-moto-x/) this will be a feature not exclusive to the Nexus 6, but rather Lollipop itself.
Given that most Moto X users (me included) do not switch to AOSP or CM-based ROMs because of the Active Display, does this mean we can now use the Active Display feature directly from vanilla Android? Or will we still be limited to the proprietary Motorola software?
I don't know much about how Active Display works, and how much is software and how much is hardware dependent. I was hoping somebody more "dev-like" can clarify if the Moto X (2013) have any chance of using Ambient Display natively.
Thanks!
It's early, but at a minimum, it looks like the following Moto X features are coming to stock Android as of 5.0 (and some of these aren't on the Moto X 2014 due to the expected quick update):
Active Display/Moto Display (called Ambient Display)
Always on hotword detection (without the word customization of the 2014 Moto X)
Bluetooth Trusted Devices
Battery Saving Mode (it's implemented the same exact way)
Moto Assist (so far, only the quiet hours for notifications has been shown)
So my guess is that if you use an AOSP-based ROM, you'll get the feature. However, it is likely going to be a little different than the Motorola implementation. So, I'm curious, will Motorola now remove some of these features, or will they leave them in as alternatives (and thus, do what Samsung is doing)? If The AOSP versions are good enough, I may seek to entirely disable Motorola's implementations.
Also, keep in mind that Google's Ambient Display does supposedly offer a knock-code option, which the Moto X currently lacks.
Let's see how all those features are on battery life tho... Something that's not much of an issue with those features on the X.
Even just OK Google everywhere on other devices is fairly battery hungry. Specifically witnessed it on the N5.
Just cause they add a generic any phone feature, doesn't mean it will be very thought out.
KJ said:
Let's see how all those features are on battery life tho... Something that's not much of an issue with those features on the X.
Even just OK Google everywhere on other devices is fairly battery hungry. Specifically witnessed it on the N5.
Just cause they add a generic any phone feature, doesn't mean it will be very thought out.
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I think that Google has accounted for this as best they can. They've stated that certain features either won't work or aren't recommended for specific types of devices. It seems their Ambient Display, for example, is intended to function like the Moto X on OLED displays, while using the more genetic "knock to turn on" gesture for LCD displays (though configurable for a user who doesn't mind destroying battery life).
They've also come out and said that the always-on Google Now requires a specific co-processor and will not function without it. Whereas most ugly implementations keep the phone's CPU in "wake," The Motorola implementation does not, and it seems that Google intends to mirror this.
Now that we know that Google's own Ambient Display is in some way better than Moto's, although some will question if there any advantages at all, I wonder if Moto will revamp their version in 5.0 to display the entire lock screen in black and white. The downside of Google's version is that as soon as you interact with the screen, the screen resorts to all colors consuming more battery.
It would be great to get the best of worlds - being able to see the entire lock screen AND be able to read the contents of the notification without in effect turning on the device.
Does Google's ambient display light up when we pick up the phone as in Moto X? If yes then bye bye stock :fingers-crossed:
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Does Googles ambient display light up when we pick up the phone as in Moto X? If yes then bye bye stock :fingers-crossed:
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Yes. It lights up when you pick it up and also apparently flashes every 10 secs when still. What do you mean be bye bye stock.
floepie said:
Yes. It lights up when you pick it up and also apparently flashes every 10 secs when still. What do you mean be bye bye stock.
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The only thing stopping me from flashing a Rom is AC display of Moto X.
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The only thing stopping me from flashing a Rom is AC display of Moto X.
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This was in a moto changelog for 2014 moto x, unfortunately the post has been pulled but it shows how they will be dealing with ambient display.
While your phone’s display is off, Moto Display will continue to surface relevant notifications to
you using the low-
power Contextual Computing Processor. It will also intelligently react when you use the Approach
gesture under Moto Actions.
Android Lollipop now includes a similar feature, called Ambient Display, that displays
notifications like those shown on the lockscreen. If you prefer to try the new Ambient Display
feature, you can uncheck the Moto Display setting in the Moto app. Note: Ambient Display does not
use Motorola’s low-power core and will turn on more of the
display, so battery life may be impacted. The Moto Actions Approach gesture will not wake Ambient
Display.
adm1jtg said:
This was in a moto changelog for 2014 moto x, unfortunately the post has been pulled but it shows how they will be dealing with ambient display.
While your phone’s display is off, Moto Display will continue to surface relevant notifications to
you using the low-
power Contextual Computing Processor. It will also intelligently react when you use the Approach
gesture under Moto Actions.
Android Lollipop now includes a similar feature, called Ambient Display, that displays
notifications like those shown on the lockscreen. If you prefer to try the new Ambient Display
feature, you can uncheck the Moto Display setting in the Moto app. Note: Ambient Display does not
use Motorola’s low-power core and will turn on more of the
display, so battery life may be impacted. The Moto Actions Approach gesture will not wake Ambient
Display.
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Interesting. Does the rest of this log still live somewhere? I wonder if Ambient Display does in fact use some sort of low-power core on the Nexus 6. I can also imagine that if you choose to use A.D., that simply flashing of pixels on such an amoled wouldn't result in much of a perceived battery hit compared to Moto Display.
All of the Snapdragon 800s have the low-power core built into the SoC which is why Moto didn't go with a custom SoC in the new Moto X.
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All of the Snapdragon 800s have the low-power core built into the SoC which is why Moto didn't go with a custom SoC in the new Moto X.
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This is actually incorrect (no offense).
The Snapdragon 800 SOC does support always on listening, but it doesn't do so with the main SOC asleep. This means that the battery consumption isn't as low as the method employed by the Moto X. Motorola's own spec sheets reveal that the two specialized lower-power chips used in the Moto X 2013 are still used in the 2014.
Motorola link: https://www.motorola.com/us/motomaker?pid=FLEXR2
Motorola Mobile Computing System including 2.5GHz Qualcomm® SnapdragonTM 801 with quad-core CPU (MSM 8974-AC), Adreno 330 @ 578 MHz GPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor
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Although it is for 2014 version but still since some of the h/w is same. I think, this will help answer some of the lollipop questions for our X.
Lollipop Release notes for Moto X(2014)
Ambient Display doesn't make use of the dedicated low-power sensor Moto Display uses in the Moto X 2013 and 2014. It is also a lot less reliable.
Will the nexus 6 have wave-to-wake feature like the Moto X 2014?
If not by default then is it possible that it can have this feature in future by any means??
No, it does not have it by default.
There are apps that can use the proximity sensor with older phones to wake it up, so I imagine that at some point, yes, it will be possible to replicate the Moto X wave-to-wake feature via app.
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No, it does not have it by default.
There are apps that can use the proximity sensor with older phones to wake it up, so I imagine that at some point, yes, it will be possible to replicate the Moto X wave-to-wake feature via app.
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Ok.. I hope it does happen...
I use this this feature frequently on my Moto X 2014. I will definitely miss it if I get a N6.
Here's the app I use on my Nexus 5. Assuming there aren't any issues running it under Lollipop, it has a setting that wake the phone with a wave. However, I'm not sure whether it will FULLY wake the phone, or let you just activate Ambient Screen. Maybe contacting the dev, and requesting an Ambient Screen setting would help.
Gravity Screen - On/Off
It wont by default - it is a moto specific software feature.
Begging or hoping it is added will do nothing, as the nexus is from google OS wise, and moto hasn't added that specific software (or hardware, see below) to it like the moto X.
Your best hope is 3rd party app that can give that capability, however that said, the phone would have to have the IR sensors like the X in order to detect the handwaving, which AFAIK it doesn't have.
Is this the same feature found in the note 2?
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...the phone would have to have the IR sensors like the X in order to detect the handwaving, which AFAIK it doesn't have.
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All modern smart phones have proximity sensors though, and third-party developers have tapped into those. The trick isn't the detection, it's the activation of Ambient Screen without fully waking the phone.
For instance, the Gravity Screen app I posted earlier will wake my N5 with a wave over the screen just perfectly, but it FULLY wakes the device. If they can alter that to give the option of waking the device, or only activating Ambient Screen, then it would almost perfectly emulate the Moto function.
I have a Moto X Dev Ed 2013 and I recently got a set of the original Moto Skip (clip and 3 dots). I was hoping to not only unlock, but also kick in car mode (for the generic car dock)
The initial setup is done, completely painless. The clip paired, as did one of the dots.
I've also noticed that regular NFC reader apps do NOT read Skip clip or skip dots. I've found that this is because Moto customized the kernel to intercept Skip NFC reads and eats the event completely. Understandable, but somewhat disappointing since this prevents the dots from **any** use other than unlock.
But I still have two dots left. The problem is, when I tried to read them with regular NFC reader apps, Skip setup kicks in and asks if I want to add them to the tag list.
Which sort of begs the questions
1) Can I use the UNUSED Skip Dots for anything else? Or are they tied to Moto Skip duty ONLY?
2) If I get some other "generic" NFC stickers or whatever, will they suffer the same fate?
Deciding between the Moto X 2014 and the Nexus 6. I have a preference for the larger screen of the Nexus 6, but also like the idea of the Motorola Value Added Software (Touchless, Car Mode, Moto Voice, etc). Nexus 6 doesn't run this software. Looking for current Moto X 2014 owners to give me their impression of how important/useful the Motorola Suite of Value Added Software is, and how much weight I should give to this in my comparison/decision.
I know we will be a little biased, but you will get a near nexus/stock android experience on the moto X plus the extra useful features that are exclusive to moto devices. The active display notifications and touchless commands really make this a stellar device along with more than sufficient hardware.
The Active Display is great, I use it all the time. Even after the L update I disabled Google's new lock screen to use it instead. It's not as nice looking but the battery savings and ability to see notifications without touching the screen are great, plus it pretty much negates the entire need for the power button to wake it which is really convenient.
Not all of the features are quite as useful as that but I'm glad they're there. The car mode is cool if I get a text while driving as it reads it aloud without me needing to touch it.
moto display is just simply awesome, it's basically life changing from previous 2 phones past couple years:
iphone 4: had to press home button every time just to see if any notification(even jb and put on notification bar app with cydia)
moto g: light was on but i didn't know if it was email or actual text etc, so i still had to click the rocker or pick it up(gravity screen/xposed mod to get these, otherwise pressing power button again)(get like 20 email/day i just simply ignore most and just check once a day at the most)
now Moto x: just wave it or move my phone and see any messaging/call i miss
moto voice: i drive 10+hrs a week routinely and too lazy to put on music sometimes and just listen to musics on radio. I would call on the phone and just ask what music it is and pick it up later when i get back home etc. Without reaching my hand to phone feels alot safer. Send message with whatsapp needs a little simplified as reply or something to get it a little more useful
moto assist: text reading is not bad but i wish they do the same to fb messenger and whatsapp as well, that would be awesome
Active Display its godlike, i love that i just need to pass my hand over my phone to see notifications.
As first i didnt think i would use Voice Controls that much, but there are some situations when its just soo good. Driving, setting up alarms when on bed, etc...
Not to mention the hardware its pretty much top of the line, and the build quality too
But its the extra features that are the highlight of the phone, and what mskes it stand out of the oh so typical high end device
I bought the moto x for it voice control eventhough it isn't available in my language but it is very useful driving
Moto suite is the only reason I'm going to keep my Moto X and pass on the N6. It's that important to me. It changes how I use a phone now and I know I would miss it if I didn't have it. The first time you're in the shower and a phone call or a text comes in and you can have a full conversation with either without having to touch your phone. It's incredible.
Looks like most (so far) find these features more useful than I first thought. Special thanks to those who are putting in detailed impressions (I just pressed the "Thanks Button" for you ). Any further impressions are deeply appreciated!
If the moto specific features are the only thing holding you back from getting a Nexus 6, then go for the nexus 6 you won't miss them all that much as the nexus 6 now has some sort of replacement features via ambient display and always on google now.
I got the moto x considering its price, size and the extra features, fast updates. But in your case I'd recommend the N6 if the price and size aren't a problem