First time ROOT help...urgent help!! - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was a pro Symbian firmware modder in good old Symbian days. And now migrated to android.
Thus this will be my first Android root and if succeeded I'll make and release some good CFWs.
I want to root my Z3 Compact coz some apps needs device rooted and also I dont want any restrictions.
My Z3 Compact is under warranty and I dont want to brick it nor wanna void its warranty.
I just want to Root my Z3 Compact to stock original firmware.
Currently I'm on KITKAT 4.4.4. ver. 23.0.1.A.5.77. INDIA (D5833)
Not interested for Lollypop. So please dont suggest to.
I know I have to follow the following thread:
How-to: root, keep and backup DRM keys, etc. [KitKat/Lollipops]
Still some queries before proceeding further:
In the above thread it states that,
---Downgrade the firmware, as the root exploit only works with older firmware such as 23.0.A.2.93.
So does that mean I have to downgrade below my current23.0.1.A.5.77. ?
---Downgrade fw to 23.0.A.2.93 (Device D5803) or anything prior to 23.0.1.A.5.77 (december fw)
So does this method also work on D5833) ?
---Upgrade the firmware to the latest version, while retaining root access.
So do I compulsorily have to update to any latest ver. of Kitkat or Lollipop?
I dont wanna move from my current 23.0.1.A.5.77.
---Also what is pre-rooted image and non-pre-rooted image? Which one to go for?
---Also I dont want to Unlock my Bootloader so is Rooting possible without unlocking bootloader?
---Finally I need Stock Original Sony INDIA ver 23.0.1.A.5.77 (D5833)
So where can I find it?
Answer my queries as they appear to get a clear idea.

nri_tech1183 said:
I was a pro Symbian firmware modder in good old Symbian days. And now migrated to android.
Thus this will be my first Android root and if succeeded I'll make and release some good CFWs.
I want to root my Z3 Compact coz some apps needs device rooted and also I dont want any restrictions.
My Z3 Compact is under warranty and I dont want to brick it nor wanna void its warranty.
I just want to Root my Z3 Compact to stock original firmware.
Currently I'm on KITKAT 4.4.4. ver. 23.0.1.A.5.77. INDIA (D5833)
Not interested for Lollypop. So please dont suggest to.
I know I have to follow the following thread:
How-to: root, keep and backup DRM keys, etc. [KitKat/Lollipops]
Still some queries before proceeding further:
In the above thread it states that,
---Downgrade the firmware, as the root exploit only works with older firmware such as 23.0.A.2.93.
So does that mean I have to downgrade below my current23.0.1.A.5.77. ?
---Downgrade fw to 23.0.A.2.93 (Device D5803) or anything prior to 23.0.1.A.5.77 (december fw)
So does this method also work on D5833) ?
---Upgrade the firmware to the latest version, while retaining root access.
So do I compulsorily have to update to any latest ver. of Kitkat or Lollipop?
I dont wanna move from my current 23.0.1.A.5.77.
---Also what is pre-rooted image and non-pre-rooted image? Which one to go for?
---Also I dont want to Unlock my Bootloader so is Rooting possible without unlocking bootloader?
---Finally I need Stock Original Sony INDIA ver 23.0.1.A.5.77 (D5833)
So where can I find it?
Answer my queries as they appear to get a clear idea.
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Cannot answer everything but will try : it should work on d5833. All you need is the old firmware for the root exploid. Pre rooted image is a zip file which u can flash via recovery after u root ur current firmware and install recovery. With this u will have root from the beginning. Nearly all flashable rom have root access.
Dont know if india has some difference in firmware but u could try a pre rooted international firmware.
Unlocking bootloader is not needed for root as long as u stay on stock roms. If u want try cm12 or something else u have to unlock.
Reason for needed downgrade is the fact to backup drm keys(ta partition). Root would be easy just unlock bootloader install recovery flash su, done. But then drm keys are gone. That is the Reason for this procedure. If a general firmware wont work for u u have to download the indian firmware via xperiafirm and use prfcreator to build ur own pre rooted zip

basti2909 said:
Cannot answer everything but will try : it should work on d5833. All you need is the old firmware for the root exploid. Pre rooted image is a zip file which u can flash via recovery after u root ur current firmware and install recovery. With this u will have root from the beginning. Nearly all flashable rom have root access.
Dont know if india has some difference in firmware but u could try a pre rooted international firmware.
Unlocking bootloader is not needed for root as long as u stay on stock roms. If u want try cm12 or something else u have to unlock.
Reason for needed downgrade is the fact to backup drm keys(ta partition). Root would be easy just unlock bootloader install recovery flash su, done. But then drm keys are gone. That is the Reason for this procedure. If a general firmware wont work for u u have to download the indian firmware via xperiafirm and use prfcreator to build ur own pre rooted zip
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Ok thanks.
So can I go ahead for root with my current kitkat 23.0.1.A.5.77 ?
...Sent from my Z3 C

Awaiting More help and replies.
...Sent from my Z3 C

@nri_tech1183
- D5833: For sure!
- Root with locked bootloader: Yep!
- Sony's stock firmwares: XperiFirm (KK or LP)
- Flashing stock firmwares: Flashtool
- Root: Downgrade to 23.0.A.2.106 fw (or older) and giefroot it (23.0.1.A.5.77 is not rootable by giefroot's exploit)!
- Utils for post root: XZDualRecovery and PRFCreator
- Pre-rooted image: Stock fw with root and/or recovery(ies)
- Non-pre-rooted image: Stock fw

Ok so once rooted can I again flash to 23.0.1.A.5.77 ???
serajr said:
@nri_tech1183
- D5833: For sure!
- Root with locked bootloader: Yep!
- Sony's stock firmwares: XperiFirm (KK or LP)
- Flashing stock firmwares: Flashtool
- Root: Downgrade to 23.0.A.2.106 fw (or older) and giefroot it (23.0.1.A.5.77 is not rootable by giefroot's exploit)!
- Utils for post root: XZDualRecovery and PRFCreator
- Pre-rooted image: Stock fw with root and/or recovery(ies)
- Non-pre-rooted image: Stock fw
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nri_tech1183 said:
Ok so once rooted can I again flash to 23.0.1.A.5.77 ???
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Yep, do it this way:
- Install Dual Recovery (installer)
- Create a 23.0.1.A.5.77 pre rooted firmware with Super SU and Dual Recovery
- Flash it on recovery

Guys I found another guide which allows to Root on 23.0.1.A.5.77 . http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-root-xperia-z3-z3-compact-locked-bootloaders-1485046
What you suggest??
I'm not able to find anyware Indian ver. of Xperia Z3 compact D5833 KITKAT ver 23.0.A.2.93.
If anybody willing to help me get it somewhere only then I'm willing to root with the method mentioned here.
Also whats the diff. between Commercial/journalist firmware and regional ones?

simplest way to root ANY smartphone without pc
1. Allow unknown sources
2. Install aptoi
3. Search in aptoide "safe remove system app"
4. Install it and run
5. It requires root and give you "root tools"
6. Install kingroot from root tools and run
7. Now you have root
P.S. In some models, from 4.3+, TB or busybox won't work. But you can use root rights for any application and uninstall unwanted pre-installed apps.
Have fun!

Ok so I decided to downgrade to good old Kitkat 4.4.4
I have the ftf file.
I dont want to root to anything but simply plain downgrade to kitkat.
Can I simply use Flashtools for downgrading?? Will my drm keys and bootloader will stay intact or will it harm??

nri_tech1183 said:
Ok so I decided to downgrade to good old Kitkat 4.4.4
I have the ftf file.
I dont want to root to anything but simply plain downgrade to kitkat.
Can I simply use Flashtools for downgrading?? Will my drm keys and bootloader will stay intact or will it harm??
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Drm stay intact. Simple flash kitkat and u are good to go. Backup internal sd. Will be wiped

IS this method still the best for root?? Or is there any newer easy method to root without loosing drm keys and boorloader???
I want to Stock root my xperia zc d5833.
I'm on latest lollipop. Do I need to downgrade to Kitkat 4.4.4 for the root or can I root directly on existing lollipop?
What if i downgrade then how to upgrade to lollipop without loosing root???

I followed this guide and successfully rooted my z3c.
Have some very important queries:
Will a factory reset wipe the root access?
In point no. 43 you said--Open Flashtool and select the non-pre-rooted fw (this is 23.1.A.0.690), but DESELECT system: in "EXCLUDE" make sure you check the checkbox next to "SYSTEM", flash it.
So here can I flash the latest lollipop 23.4.a.0.546 fw in place of 23.1.A.0.690 ??
Can I now directly update to any latest lollipop/marshmallow via OTA/pc suite without loosing Root access?

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New to Sony, need to ask few Q before root/unlock BL/rom

Hi Sony users
Finally got my Sony Xperia Z1
specs:
C6903
basebans: 8974-xxxxx
kernel: 3.4.0
Build: 14.1.G.2.257
Serial: BH902xxxxxxx
I just tried chinese vroot and it doesnt work, found on another thread it's not yet supported for .257 firmware.
So wanted to check if I can flash another stock rom as this phone is bought from t-mobile and think it's branded
(under software info it says: TELEKOM-LTE_14.1.G.2.257)
Coming from HTC (had few of them) this is another world with different flashing tehniques, bootloader, flashing stock roms, recoveries..
What I would like to know, I need root, which is simpliest way to do it?
Flash another stock rom firmware like this one?
C6903 14.1.G.2.257 Central Europe 1276-4314_R2A
Via flashtool?
Thanks for any info...
Please read the guides.
Read the sticky threads here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/general
and read this thread (This one tells you how to get root on .257)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505796
You don't need to read all the thread, just the first few posts with the info.
Thanks, I've been reading those since yesterday, but one question before I start to recheck.
Currently downloading unbranded central europe 1.534 and 2.257
want to flash 1.534 then root via VROOT and upgrade via OTA to latest, will that go ok or will I loose root?
Also, do I need to to TA backup before proceeding with anything via flash tool? Or is that only before going to custom roms/custom recovery?
Stegy said:
Also, do I need to to TA backup before proceeding with anything via flash tool? Or is that only before going to custom roms/custom recovery?
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Use kingo* root instead of Vroot (They will both work, but kingo gives you an English SUperSU not a Chinese one)
If you root and then OTA you will keep root.
You only need a TA backup if you unlock the bootloader, which you do not need to do to root, or install recovery or install stock based custom roms.
You only need to unlock the bootloader if you are going to install custom kernels or custom roms that need a custom kernel (AOSP,CM etc)
*You should be aware that kingo is currently not supported by XDA, I do believe that vroot is in the same situation. XDA do not believe this is for malicious reasons and kingo and vroot are working on new version which don't do this. However, the only way to root a Z1 is via one of these 2 programs.
Thanks for the tips, re-read needed topics and succesfully flashed .534 fw, rooted and now updating over OTA

[Q] Downgrade from 4.3 (C6903) Xperia Z1 14.2.A.0.290 Generic NCB (Unbranded/Nordic)

Hi everybody!
This is my first post as I usual solve my problems just by reading others people posts.
I recently flashed my z1 (C6903) to 14.2.A.0.290 Generic NCB (Unbranded/Nordic) (4.3 android) as I didn 't like the DE(german version) with the bloatware. I rooted it before with kingo but lost my root after flashing the NCB version I'm now looking for a way to downgrade to a older ncb version root it with kingo and then do a ota upgrade to keep the root. Does anybody have the FTF therfore and what boxes should I pick I want to keep my data or should I let it do a full wipe do a backup with sony companion or the sony app on the phone and than play it in after finishing the downgrade root and OTA? Pls help me I' m completly lost and I'm really missing the root.
Thanks in advance to everyone!!!!!
john
johnnydrift said:
Does anybody have the FTF therfore and what boxes should I pick I want to keep my data or should I let it do a full wipe do a backup with sony companion or the sony app on the phone and than play it in after finishing the downgrade root and OTA?
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My experience is that if older FTFs aren't in the mega thead (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469191), then you won't find them anywhere. Mega thread only has a 290 FTF for NCB, so you may be SOL if you want to strictly downgrade to 534 NCB and then OTA to 290. However, as long as you flash a generic FTF, you won't get carrier bloatware.
If root is what you'd want, I'd go with [NUT]'s pre-rooted 290: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988. It's the easiest way to get full root.
..or you follow the instruction step by step here on page 2, post #16 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588331&page=2
johnnydrift said:
Hi everybody!
This is my first post as I usual solve my problems just by reading others people posts.
I recently flashed my z1 (C6903) to 14.2.A.0.290 Generic NCB (Unbranded/Nordic) (4.3 android) as I didn 't like the DE(german version) with the bloatware. I rooted it before with kingo but lost my root after flashing the NCB version I'm now looking for a way to downgrade to a older ncb version root it with kingo and then do a ota upgrade to keep the root. Does anybody have the FTF therfore and what boxes should I pick I want to keep my data or should I let it do a full wipe do a backup with sony companion or the sony app on the phone and than play it in after finishing the downgrade root and OTA? Pls help me I' m completly lost and I'm really missing the root.
Thanks in advance to everyone!!!!!
john
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Here's a link to the correct FTF (note that it is .257, so follow the guides regarding rooting .257, or if you're savvy, install a .534 kernel, root with Kingo, install a .257 kernel again, then OTA)
https://mega.co.nz/#!WkolCYjB!IIXR5SgAn-J05MXmG26GYyi2P2sYcF34Avn73z5Y9n0
It is incorrectly named Generic SE, but it is the right customisation ID for Generic NCB (1276-9897).
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Rekoil said:
Here's a link to the correct FTF (note that it is .257, so follow the guides regarding rooting .257, or if you're savvy, install a .534 kernel, root with Kingo, install a .257 kernel again, then OTA)
It is incorrectly named Generic SE, but it is the right customisation ID for Generic NCB (1276-9897).
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Hi guys!
Thanks for ur fast answer two last questions if I want to keep all my data and apps whats the ebst way to keep them or transfer a backup? And what is the right rooting methode for the 257. I can flash it without any kernel problems?I wanted to do the one click root methode with kingo I thought it s just plug and root( doens it root allkernels?) did tht last time....
Thanks again!!!
johnnydrift said:
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Hi guys!
Thanks for ur fast answer two last questions if I want to keep all my data and apps whats the ebst way to keep them or transfer a backup? And what is the right rooting methode for the 257. I can flash it without any kernel problems?I wanted to do the one click root methode with kingo I thought it s just plug and root( doens it root allkernels?) did tht last time....
Thanks again!!!
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Sony PC Companion can make a backup for you, I don't know how much will be saved as in order to flash a 4.2.2 ROM you'll need to wipe your data partition.
johnnydrift said:
Thanks for ur fast answer two last questions if I want to keep all my data and apps whats the ebst way to keep them or transfer a backup? And what is the right rooting methode for the 257. I can flash it without any kernel problems?I wanted to do the one click root methode with kingo I thought it s just plug and root( doens it root allkernels?) did tht last time....
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257 can't be rooted manually, only 534 can be rooted by vRoot/Kingo/etc.
Since you are downgrading, you must wipe data and will lose everything you don't copy off the phone.
xasbo said:
257 can't be rooted manually, only 534 can be rooted by vRoot/Kingo/etc.
Since you are downgrading, you must wipe data and will lose everything you don't copy off the phone.
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So I have to get the 534 ftf generic or nordic do a backup with Sony companion before.flash the 534 root it and let it do ota twice to 257 and then to 290 again ota and I ll keep the root.
johnnydrift said:
So I have to get the 534 ftf generic or nordic do a backup with Sony companion before.flash the 534 root it and let it do ota twice to 257 and then to 290 again ota and I ll keep the root.
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No, it's not possible to upgrade 257/290 and keep root. You asked about downgrading, not rooting 290. If you have an unlocked BL, go read the dev thread on how to root 290. With a locked BL, you'll need to get rooted 534/257 and then flash a custom pre-rooted ROM from the dev forum.
General: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565
290 pre-root options: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development
unlock BL 290 root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573921
xasbo said:
No, it's not possible to upgrade 257/290 and keep root. You asked about downgrading, not rooting 290. If you have an unlocked BL, go read the dev thread on how to root 290. With a locked BL, you'll need to get rooted 534/257 and then flash a custom pre-rooted ROM from the dev forum.
General: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565
290 pre-root options: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development
unlock BL 290 root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573921
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Actually with OTA you keep semi-root, but in essence you're right. Actually I think the easiest solution is to flash a stock .534 ROM, root it with Kingo, grab TA partition backup, flash .290, unlock bootloader, flash a recovery, do a proper root, reflash stock boot partition, flash TA backup.
Rekoil said:
Actually with OTA you keep semi-root, but in essence you're right. Actually I think the easiest solution is to flash a stock .534 ROM, root it with Kingo, grab TA partition backup, flash .290, unlock bootloader, flash a recovery, do a proper root, reflash stock boot partition, flash TA backup.
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Yeah, true, I've just stopped telling people about partial root since full root is possible. Those who don't know to ask don't know what it means anyway, and it's just simpler for everyone involved to leave it out.
how to guide
Hey guys thanks for the answers.I really don't want to unlock the bootloader is there any other way to get root on 4.3 and what would be the steps thank you!!!
johnnydrift said:
Hey guys thanks for the answers.I really don't want to unlock the bootloader is there any other way to get root on 4.3 and what would be the steps thank you!!!
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Are you joking? We already told you what you have to do but I think you didn't read a word from all the post because you will know something now.
I posted this already here and this is Root and Custom Rom for Locked Bootlader Step by Step Guide, Page 2, Post #16, Here
Android 4.3 FTF .290 Root only for Locked Bootlader, Here

[Q] Rooting with C6906 with 4.4

Hello,
I have a Bell Canada Xperia Z1 C6906 (Locked Bootloader) on 14.3.A.0.757 that is unrooted and I would like some help/advice about rooting it with the least amount of distress since while I need the features provided by rooting I cannot afford to brick my phone. So any help would be very much appreciated.
I have looked through the information and I will provide what I know below - is it correct, is there more I need to do?
Install Flashtool and all drivers.
Backup my TA partition for future reference/restoration.
Download FTF firmware that is version .534 - I found C6906 14.1.G.1.534 Rogers CA (which should be compatible even though its Rogers and I have Bell?) and flash it via flashtool.
Root the Xperia Z1 with 360Root.
Download the NUT's latest locked dual recovery
Z1-lockeddualrecovery2.7.123-BETA.installer.zip (10.22MB) and follow the instructions from [DEVDB][TWRP][PhilZ Touch][CWM] XZDualRecovery 2.7.1XX RC
Download C6906_14.2.A.0.290.flashable.zip and C6906_14.2.A.0.290_Stripped.ftf, place *flashable.zip on the SDCard and *Stripped.ftf in the Flashtool/firmware folder.
Create a full backup of my phone through TWRP
Wipe Dalivik-Cache, System, Data, Cache.
Flash " C6906_14.2.A.0.290.flashable.zip", power off. In Flashtool flash everything (check mark System, data etc ?) for "C6906_14.2.A.0.290_Stripped.ftf". Reboot and on language select reboot into TWRP and restore DATA backup. Wipe Dalivik-Cache and reboot.
Update to the newest version of Android - download C6906_14.3.A.0.757.flashable.zip and C6906_14.3.A.0.757_Stripped.ftf from [STOCK][C69XX][4.4] Update to 14.3.A.0.757 [Root & XZDR][DE-/ODEX] by NUT. Place *flashable.zip on the SDCard and *Stripped.ftf in the Flashtool/firmware folder.
Repeat step 7-9.
Should have a rooted newest version of the Xperia Z1?
Did I miss anything or make it too complex? It seems like a lot of steps just to have a rooted and up to date phone.
Don't use 290 version, use 534.
There's a lot bricked device reported when guys flashed 290 over 757 and version before 757 (can't remember number of that version).
Also, if you don't plan to unlock bootloader there's no need to backup TA, it's OK to do that but it's not necessary.
You can't lose DRM keys as long as you don't unlock it.
And yeah...use binary root method (just Google "binary root method xda" and pick first result.
360 and Kingo are banned from XDA because they read and store your IMEI (and that's totally unnecessary)
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funky0308 said:
Don't use 290 version, use 534.
There's a lot bricked device reported when guys flashed 290 over 757 and version before 757 (can't remember number of that version).
Also, if you don't plan to unlock bootloader there's no need to backup TA, it's OK to do that but it's not necessary.
You can't lose DRM keys as long as you don't unlock it.
And yeah...use binary root method (just Google "binary root method xda" and pick first result.
360 and Kingo are banned from XDA because they read and store your IMEI (and that's totally unnecessary)
Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk
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So I should just stay with .534 and not upgrade at all? I was hoping for an up-to-date version since some of the features in 4.4 are really useful to me.
magwart said:
So I should just stay with .534 and not upgrade at all? I was hoping for an up-to-date version since some of the features in 4.4 are really useful to me.
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Hehe....no
Just use 534 to downgrade and root and install recovery.
Then flash NUT 757 prerooted ROM from recovery and flash stripped ftf (kernel) using flashtool.
Only thing what I wanna said is - flash 534 and root it don't use 290 - downgrading from 757 to 290 could brick your device...
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Ok!
So downgrade to .534, do binary root, install DualRecovery and then just flash .757.
Also I keep seeing you need to reflash DualRecovery, would I do so after flashing .757?
No need to apply a root process if you are installing dual recovery
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[Q] OTA Lollipop then root?

Hi
Got Z3C, D5803, Android version 5.0.2
Build 23.1.A.0.726
Bootloader Unlockable: No
Can it be rooted?
If so at what cost?
If this has been asked and answered, I'm sorry. Please forgive my search skills.
vectorer said:
Hi
Got Z3C, D5803, Android version 5.0.2
Build 23.1.A.0.726
Bootloader Unlockable: No
Can it be rooted?
If so at what cost?
If this has been asked and answered, I'm sorry. Please forgive my search skills.
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Hey,
The only way to get root on lollipop is to downgrade to 23.0.A.2.93 (or whatever it is) root that and install recovery.
After that you can flash a pre-rooted zip to get back to lollipop - all this can be done with a locked bootloader
Steps: (All specific instructions to root / install recovery / flash firmware are in the provided links)
Download and install Flashtool
Download a KitKat ftf download the ftf for your phone model (D5803) and download from the version 23.0.A.2.93 list, any brand will do as they are all the same on the inside
Flash the KitKat ftf using FlashTool
Root using giefroot then install recovery with XZDR
After you have rooted and got a working recovery you can go into recovery (when booting, on the sony xperia screen, when you see the green light hold the volume down button) and flash THIS PRE-ROOTED zip (Instructions to flash are within the link)
nzzane said:
Hey,
The only way to get root on lollipop is to downgrade to 23.0.A.2.93 (or whatever it is) root that and install recovery.
After that you can flash a pre-rooted zip to get back to lollipop - all this can be done with a locked bootloader
Steps: (All specific instructions to root / install recovery / flash firmware are in the provided links)
Download and install Flashtool
Download a KitKat ftf download the ftf for your phone model (D5803) and download from the version 23.0.A.2.93 list, any brand will do as they are all the same on the inside
Flash the KitKat ftf using FlashTool
Root using giefroot then install recovery with XZDR
After you have rooted and got a working recovery you can go into recovery (when booting, on the sony xperia screen, when you see the green light hold the volume down button) and flash THIS PRE-ROOTED zip (Instructions to flash are within the link)
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Thanks for the info.
Seems like a lot to go through to delete bloatware.
I may just stay stock, for the first time ever! Or wait until some genius figures out how to root Lollipop
One question, if I did root with the BL locked would I still get OTA?
Appreciate all the help.
Yep, you would still get OTA but if you did update you would loose your root
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Wouldn't SuperSU's OTA survival option work? It worked with the 23.0.1.A.5.77 OTA
I mean root in KK and doing this instead of flashing a pre-rooted fw
gfeo said:
Wouldn't SuperSU's OTA survival option work? It worked with the 23.0.1.A.5.77 OTA
I mean root in KK and doing this instead of flashing a pre-rooted fw
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Sadly the lollipop (OTA or computer update) seems to completely remove root no matter what survival modes / root keepers you have
In the latest version of SuperSU (SuperSU 2.46) the survival option has been removed. Hopefully soon there will be a way for survival to work - but root and recovery is always better
I had this question too.
Thanks everyone for answering it.
I still have a doubt: In HTC devices you did the same but sometimes you needed to update firmwares, radios and stuff via adb.
How do you do it in sony?or you don't?
skinniezinho said:
I had this question too.
Thanks everyone for answering it.
I still have a doubt: In HTC devices you did the same but sometimes you needed to update firmwares, radios and stuff via adb.
How do you do it in sony?or you don't?
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{Short version; you don't}
After updating or flashing a pre-rooted zip everything is included in that zip / update file
And with the xperia series there is a model for Asia area (Australia, new Zealand etc) and a model for us and UK areas so if you flash a zip / update for the model that you have everything is included (usually you shouldn't have to flash radio or firmware manually unless you really wanted)
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nzzane said:
{Short version; you don't}
After updating or flashing a pre-rooted zip everything is included in that zip / update file
And with the xperia series there is a model for Asia area (Australia, new Zealand etc) and a model for us and UK areas so if you flash a zip / update for the model that you have everything is included (usually you shouldn't have to flash radio or firmware manually unless you really wanted)
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Thanks for the answer.
In HTC devices usually all worked well without flashing radios and firmwares but it was always better to keep them updated.Since I never found any tutorial on how to do that for xperias I found it strange.
sorry to bumb an old thread, but
Hi folks, i just rooted the Z3C of a friend and i am curious wether she could install future OTAs and just reflash superSU.zip from recovery or am i missing something? i find this easier than downloading a prerooted FW everytime.

Root Xperia Z1 5.1.1 Firmware ?

Hello People Can Any One Tell Me If Theres A Way To Root The Xperia Z1 With The Last Firmware 5.11 Without Downgrade To 5.0.2
kingroot ?
As of the moment, there are no know root procedures for 5.1.1 that have been posted in the Xperia Z1 General section other than pre-rooted FTFs downloaded using XperiFirm through Flashtool. Although - if my memory serves me right - I think I read somewhere here that if you have an unlocked bootloader, you shouldn't really have to worry about rooting as apparently it is easy to get root access. I really haven't explored the part of unlocked bootloaders even though I have a phone that I can unlock my bootloader though to be honest.
Deathschythe33 said:
As of the moment, there are no know root procedures for 5.1.1 that have been posted in the Xperia Z1 General section other than pre-rooted FTFs downloaded using XperiFirm through Flashtool. Although - if my memory serves me right - I think I read somewhere here that if you have an unlocked bootloader, you shouldn't really have to worry about rooting as apparently it is easy to get root access. I really haven't explored the part of unlocked bootloaders even though I have a phone that I can unlock my bootloader though to be honest.
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Thank You Budy And Yes Im Right now With UNlocked BL I wish I had A Way To Root My 5.1.1 Firmware Without Going To Back To 5.0.2 And then Flash The Preerooted Version Can you Tell Me where did you read about rooting BL Unlocked
kingroot doesn't work also on 5.1.1.
im also reverting to 4.4.4 just to flash the pre-rooted 5.1.1
Salvan Malkovich said:
Thank You Budy And Yes Im Right now With UNlocked BL I wish I had A Way To Root My 5.1.1 Firmware Without Going To Back To 5.0.2 And then Flash The Preerooted Version Can you Tell Me where did you read about rooting BL Unlocked
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Its just around the corners of Xperia Z1 General section I believe. But to be honest, I don't want to mess about with my bootloader - but that's just me, my own preference. The good thing is locked or not, we can still root our nasty Z1 phones!
If on 4.4.4 (Firmware version: 14.4.A.0.108):
Search and download
rootkitXperia_20140719.zip
Note: It is available here in our Community forums.
Use the rootkitXperia_20140719.zip to root your phone
If on 4.4.4 (Firmware version: 14.4.A.0.157):
Search and download
C690X_14.4.A.0.108_KernelOnly.ftf
C690X_14.4.A.0.157_KernelOnly.ftf
rootkitXperia_20140719.zip
Note: They are all available here in our Community forums.
Using Flashtools, flash the C690X_14.4.A.0.108_KernelOnly.ftf on your phone
Use the rootkitXperia_20140719.zip to root your phone
Then flash the C690X_14.4.A.0.157_KernelOnly.ftf back to your phone
If on 5.0.2:
Root with Kingroot
(Optional) Then replace Kingroot with SuperSU
Then install @[NUT] 's Dual XZ1 Recovery
If on 5.1.1:
Downgrade to 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 by using @Androxyde 's Flashtool
Root phone using the steps outlines above
Download a 5.1.1 FTF and create your own pre-rooted 5.1.1 Firmware, OR
Download pre-rooted Firmwares shared by our fellow community members
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Personally though, If I have a new phone and it's on 5.1.1, I'll just downgrade to 5.0.2 because I can root it without a PC. Just use Kingroot, (optional) replace KR with SuperSU using Terminal emulator, and Baaaammm!!! phones rooted. Then I'll install DualXZ1Recovery, grab one of the pre-rooted 5.1.1, then flash away baby!!!
Deathschythe33 said:
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Personally though, If I have a new phone and it's on 5.1.1, I'll just downgrade to 5.0.2 because I can root it without a PC. Just use Kingroot, (optional) replace KR with SuperSU using Terminal emulator, and Baaaammm!!! phones rooted. Then I'll install DualXZ1Recovery, grab one of the pre-rooted 5.1.1, then flash away baby!!!
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I'm reverting back also to kitkat or 5.0.2 but i can't find any 5.0.2 ftf just 4.4.4.
cheeze.keyk said:
I'm reverting back also to kitkat or 5.0.2 but i can't find any 5.0.2 ftf just 4.4.4.
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Make yourself a ftf.
Use flashtool to download your firmware. Use flashtool again to convert your firmware files to an ftf.
Flash the ftf with flashtool.
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Deathschythe33 said:
Its just around the corners of Xperia Z1 General section I believe. But to be honest, I don't want to mess about with my bootloader - but that's just me, my own preference. The good thing is locked or not, we can still root our nasty Z1 phones!
If on 4.4.4 (Firmware version: 14.4.A.0.108):
Search and download
rootkitXperia_20140719.zip
Note: It is available here in our Community forums.
Use the rootkitXperia_20140719.zip to root your phone
If on 4.4.4 (Firmware version: 14.4.A.0.157):
Search and download
C690X_14.4.A.0.108_KernelOnly.ftf
C690X_14.4.A.0.157_KernelOnly.ftf
rootkitXperia_20140719.zip
Note: They are all available here in our Community forums.
Using Flashtools, flash the C690X_14.4.A.0.108_KernelOnly.ftf on your phone
Use the rootkitXperia_20140719.zip to root your phone
Then flash the C690X_14.4.A.0.157_KernelOnly.ftf back to your phone
If on 5.0.2:
Root with Kingroot
(Optional) Then replace Kingroot with SuperSU
Then install @[NUT] 's Dual XZ1 Recovery
If on 5.1.1:
Downgrade to 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 by using @Androxyde 's Flashtool
Root phone using the steps outlines above
Download a 5.1.1 FTF and create your own pre-rooted 5.1.1 Firmware, OR
Download pre-rooted Firmwares shared by our fellow community members
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Personally though, If I have a new phone and it's on 5.1.1, I'll just downgrade to 5.0.2 because I can root it without a PC. Just use Kingroot, (optional) replace KR with SuperSU using Terminal emulator, and Baaaammm!!! phones rooted. Then I'll install DualXZ1Recovery, grab one of the pre-rooted 5.1.1, then flash away baby!!!
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Hi, is it possible to use flashtool (im about want go back to 4.4.4 kitkat) without required root if my phone still unroot and locked BL like fresh phone?
alienx2 said:
Hi, is it possible to use flashtool (im about want go back to 4.4.4 kitkat) without required root if my phone still unroot and locked BL like fresh phone?
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Yes.
I am new to xda and this is my first post.
I found this thread very helpful but am stock right now...I want to root my xz1 already on 5.1.1, right now I have both ftf files of 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
My problem now is...how do I create a pre rooted 5.1.1 from the ftf file? And does installing a pre rooted firmware gives all the privileges such as installing fonts?..I'd greatly appreciate your assistance.
tipcea said:
I am new to xda and this is my first post.
I found this thread very helpful but am stock right now...I want to root my xz1 already on 5.1.1, right now I have both ftf files of 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
My problem now is...how do I create a pre rooted 5.1.1 from the ftf file? And does installing a pre rooted firmware gives all the privileges such as installing fonts?..I'd greatly appreciate your assistance.
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You have to use a Windows prog called PRF Creator. With it you can created your pre rooted zip file.
The pre rooted zip file will give you root privileges to your phone. With root you can basically do whatever you want.
To flash the zip you need a working custom recovery on your phone.
motorazrv3 said:
You have to use a Windows prog called PRF Creator. With it you can created your pre rooted zip file.
The pre rooted zip file will give you root privileges to your phone. With root you can basically do whatever you want.
To flash the zip you need a working custom recovery on your phone.
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I am very grateful for this enlightenment... Will embark on it ASAP, my pc just got blind am suspecting the screen....but thanks for the quick response.

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