Why the KK baseband for LP ROMs? - LG Optimus L90

I'm not sure if it's just a D415/410/405 thing or if it's a KitKat to Lollipop thing. I'm not new to rooting, flashing, and customizing, but I'm in no way a dev either, so I was wondering why so many ROMs for our phone need a KK baseband? Alternatively, if I'm already on a debloated but otherwise stock LP ROM do I need to downgrade to the KK baseband first or can I flash over?
Note: the last time I was playing around with flashing ROMs was on a Galaxy Exhibit II 4G and I bumped it up from 2.3.6 to 4.4.2 without having to play with basebands. This is why the confusion.
Thanks in advance for any advice and answers.

I guess because no one really is maintaining LG L90 device sources.
For a log time there was Quarx but his device got broken so he's not really developing it anymore. He's only compiling CM12.1 from sources but I'm pretty sure it's all done by computer, fully automatically. After Quarx there was BigMajster who if I'm not wrong was the first one to introduced L90 owners to Lollipop. He was a great bug-hunter and he published a lot of great fixes for different L90 variants. If I'm not mistaken he was the one who fixed Double-tap-to-wake feature and storage 190MB bug for D415. He was a great developer until he disappeared somewhere in January I think. One day he was gone without saying anything. For some time I thought that something happened to him but after a little research I found out his real name and that he's pretty much alive and well. I didn't contact him though. I thought that if he left the way he did there was no point.
Other developers (I will not mention any names) are no really maintaining device sources. Most of them are just busy with their ROMs they are developing. The same bugs are present in all customROMs and no one is working to fix them. After months there is still no stable kernel for custom Lollipop, even though almost all of the current developing projects are based on Lollipop. Getting developers to work together, also didn't worked out. I probably forgot about some others important developers that are not with us anymore so sorry if I skipped anyone.
To be exactly clear. I don't make any accusations nor complaining. I just share my opinion with you, saying how I see things around here. I tried to state only facts, without my personal opinions but you should consider this whole statement as one.

A well thought out and thorough answer. Thank you for that. Any input on if I can flash from a stock LP base band or would I have to downgrade? That's about the only thing that makes me nervous and preventing me from trying 5.1.1 despite the random FCs

If you're on stock Lollipop and want to try CustomROM. Then you will have to downgrade to KitKat using KDZ or install bootstack.
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@Xemidra
Keep in mind that NOONE of you pays us. You have no idea what we're doing on the source.
Quarx started with the device tree, kernel and vendor, so we don't know all what he did and how he did. We are working all or going to school(?), so we don't have so much time to rebase everything.
Also porting a Lollipop kernel from LGE source needs plenty much time.
In addition there is no "General source" to work on and maintain. All in all it's pretty cheeky to say something like we're doing nothing.

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@Xemidra
Keep in mind that NOONE of you pays us. You have no idea what we're doing on the source.
Quarx started with the device tree, kernel and vendor, so we don't know all what he did and how he did. We are working all or going to school(?), so we don't have so much time to rebase everything.
Also porting a Lollipop kernel from LGE source needs plenty much time.
In addition there is no "General source" to work on and maintain. All in all it's pretty cheeky to say something like we're doing nothing.
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Well, like I said it's was my opinion. That's how I see things around here.
I didn't mean any disrespect. I know that you don't get paid for your work so I don't have any right demanding anything from you and I don't but you also can't say that the current situation is a result of devs not getting paid.
I also put some work time into L90. I did made available all KDZ for Lollipop and some for KitKat. I made different versions of BOOTSTACKs and I made FlashableSTOCK. All that take a lot of my time, energy and also my internet connection, power supply etc. No one paid me for it. I basically paid for it from my own pocket. I'm not complaining. It's just how it is.
You can't get mad because someone did something not the way you wanted him to do while he did it for free.
At the same time you can't be mad at the current situation and say it's because someone didn't pay you to make it better.
That's my opinion.

@Xemidra
The problem isn't that we don't get paid for it - its' our hobby. But the point is that you're telling around that we do nothing on the device source, which is just wrong.

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@Xemidra
The problem isn't that we don't get paid for it - its' our hobby. But the point is that you're telling around that we do nothing on the device source, which is just wrong.
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I might have been wrong about the input in device sources.
Good you've stepped up and corrected me.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

@Xemidra
Nevermind.

Sorry if this ruffled any feathers, guys. This was meant more to be an end user wanting to understand the dev and background process to be able to contribute and help more than a spirited discussion about who does what.
In any case, I thank you both for the information and the input. In the end I do understand a bit more.

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The future of the Dell Streak 7

Okay, I wanted to take a moment to talk about the development for our device.
Recently CM decided to no longer support Tegra 2 devices as they are starting to get dated. So basically that boils down to the fact that the CM10.1 will be the last one for our device that I do.
Currently I'm trying to jump start the process of putting out our updated kernel from 2.6.36.4 -> 3.1. This will hopefully put our device at a point where everything should work.
DerArtem is the lead developer on the kernel, but has been busy because he just got married and works a full time job, which puts a damper on his time (which is understandable).
I am putting in an 1-2 hours every morning on this, trying to fix those bugs and was just tipped on a possible way to minimize the overload of the log with the USB error. This will be a hold off till we get the kernel done as these issues should go away after the update.
I am sad to see this tablet come to an end (though not yet). We all have to admit that its time we all start moving on. I am going to push to get these last bit done and call it quits. This can take anywhere from 2-5 months to finish up, maybe a bit longer and then our device will be done.
I have had an amazing time learning about Android under DJ_Steve and DerArtem, and thank them for taking the time to teach me.
I thank you what you done so far and in the future. Can blame you one bit for your decisions.
I think setting an "end game" is respectable, and is a good goal. The kernel work is the key to smoothing things over on what has been wonderful development thus far.
The fact you've taken us this far sir is very commendable and you and the crew deserve many thanks. For your time and efforts, you have my gratitude, and my tablet serves as a hobby rather than a shelved device.
4.2.x has been flawed since release by Google, and with the way android has evolved, future versions will undoubtedly require more current hardware and OEM support. The latest tablet releases have as much computing power as a 2 year old laptop! Thanks to you, we've managed to play with JB, and I look forward to what comes before a final release.:thumbup:
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Wow, I hate doing this, but I may have to close up shop on all this. Severe lack of any real work is getting done as I am looking for jobs and trying to have some game time as well.
The time to do this isn't worth it. I may ask for payments for my next ROM ($1 per download). Seriously, I hate doing it but this just isn't worth it anymore. Currently working on a AOKP release, to see if this may resolve any bugs I am having.
Hi giveen,
first of all thank you for all the time you spent on our old device. I already donated you some time ago and always had an eye on your progesses. I really understand your decision to ask for some payment for all the work and that is absolutely ok for me.
I use my DS7 (wifi only) on a daily base to check my mails, surf the net and stream some TV and video from my HTPC. Until now I use a HC 3.2 mod (514 mod by dreamer) together with V6 Supercharger script and am so far quite ok with that. So far I see no need to buy me a new tablet as long as the DS7 fits my few needs
But before I collect all my courage and update my DS7 in the near future to your CM10 build I want to ask a few things:
1. Is your build already stable and usable enough for the things I do with my device?
2. Any news from DerArtem about the kernel work? Will there be a new kernel for our device in the future?
THX,
Michael
Montezuma10 said:
Hi giveen,
first of all thank you for all the time you spent on our old device. I already donated you some time ago and always had an eye on your progesses. I really understand your decision to ask for some payment for all the work and that is absolutely ok for me.
I use my DS7 (wifi only) on a daily base to check my mails, surf the net and stream some TV and video from my HTPC. Until now I use a HC 3.2 mod (514 mod by dreamer) together with V6 Supercharger script and am so far quite ok with that. So far I see no need to buy me a new tablet as long as the DS7 fits my few needs
But before I collect all my courage and update my DS7 in the near future to your CM10 build I want to ask a few things:
1. Is your build already stable and usable enough for the things I do with my device?
2. Any news from DerArtem about the kernel work? Will there be a new kernel for our device in the future?
THX,
Michael
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If its from your HTPC, I honestly don't know as I have never tried it before. This latest build is much more stable, though it still has the gmail keyboard crash that I am tracking down. If you are happy with what you have, don't do anything. I would hate for you to make a purchase and not be happy.
I haven't heard from DerArtem in several weeks because he is in another country (Russia) doing a job. (He lives in Germany). To be honest, I don't think a new kernel is going to happen and I'm really upset by it.
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If its from your HTPC, I honestly don't know as I have never tried it before. This latest build is much more stable, though it still has the gmail keyboard crash that I am tracking down. If you are happy with what you have, don't do anything. I would hate for you to make a purchase and not be happy.
I haven't heard from DerArtem in several weeks because he is in another country (Russia) doing a job. (He lives in Germany). To be honest, I don't think a new kernel is going to happen and I'm really upset by it.
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One issue I see here is that when you start charging, a person paying for it like a app from the Play Store, they expect things to work. This "might" cause you to spend more time than you have been on it. Just my $0.02!
Didn't somebody donate an unused DS7 for DerArtem for this kernel project?
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One issue I see here is that when you start charging, a person paying for it like a app from the Play Store, they expect things to work. This "might" cause you to spend more time than you have been on it. Just my $0.02!
Didn't somebody donate an unused DS7 for DerArtem for this kernel project?
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They can contact me if they are having an issue. I appreciate the concern though.
Yes, someone did give their DS7 to him.
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They can contact me if they are having an issue. I appreciate the concern though.
Yes, someone did give their DS7 to him.
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I'll be downloading it later after some usage and a charge.
I'm working on sensors now. The old sensor drivers we used were for something we dont even have. I found the correct Android drivers but they are for qualcomm devices, so I need to modify them to work.
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I'm working on sensors now. The old sensor drivers we used were for something we dont even have. I found the correct Android drivers but they are for qualcomm devices, so I need to modify them to work.
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after several attempts and research I was still not the sound from my headphones with android android 2 and 3 sound going normally but not with 4.2.1 and 4.2.2.

Rom Port Team Effort - Let's bring a diversity of roms to our P880.

Rom Port Team Effort
Hello P880 community.
This post has the purpose to put together a group of users / developers, who are willing to participate into bringing a different set of roms into our community.
These set of roms that I'm thinking, can range from complete Sense ports to more customized and maybe less popular roms (like ColorOS, LiGux, FlymeOS, FluidUI, etc..).
What's valid on this thread:
- CM / AOSP (any base we already have) themed (like Samsung TouchUI, Optimus, Blur, etc..). So you can grab any rom (with author authorization), theme it (i mean, not just shove an apk as default theme, I mean neat theming ).
- Ports from other devices (evert port needs to have clear authors permission to port it).
- All users are very welcome, everyone can participate, users with porting / developing skills are needed as well.
The idea is simple, we're not going to use this thread to post the work, this is just a thread to talk about possible projects.
We can start by listing which devices are hardware compatible and the port is "easily" possible.
Roms that can be used as a base for eventual future ports.
CM10.2 - thanks to laufersteppenwolf for compiling this build promptly for this purpose
http://goo.im/devs/laufersteppenwolf/CM10.2//cm-10.2-20140305-UNOFFICIAL-p880.zip
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I strongly recommend the use of MultiRom for testing ports and other roms. That way you can maintain your working rom and whenver feeling adventurous you can without going through the hassle of backup / restore / yada yada yada that we are all too familiar with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655988
- - List of Devices with hardware similar / close / identical to the 4X - -
- HTC One X
- HTC One X +
- More ??
- Possible roms to port:
Right now would be nice to see a OEM rom, such a touchwiz or Sense
Work in Progress
N/A available
(awaiting sugestions
So, what do you guys think? ? Any users with good porting skills ? I know we have good developers! Ideas? Sugestions?
Write away
A few guides from XDA - They may not be all you need to get the job done, but a LOT of important information is written here. Don't forget to thanks their authors
Guides / Tutorials
How to Port Roms by @saywhatt
How to Port Manufacturer Rom. by @GalaxyUser
How to port Stock/GB/CM7/CM9/ICS/CM10/JB Based ROMs by @Peteragent5
PS - Every work that is possible to port and if someone decides to invest time in it, it needs explicit authors permission.
Sure if a few people want a particular rom i can bring it to our device, but i would much prefer helping first time rom builders do this own their own then they can maintain it also
JoinTheRealms said:
Sure if a few people want a particular rom i can bring it to our device, but i would much prefer helping first time rom builders do this own their own then they can maintain it also
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Well, I though about some sort of "voting" to bring a "specific" rom.
Personally, I'd love to have Sense on our device. I had two HTC's before and I miss that Sense interface :b
But far as I'm aware, isn't an easy thing to port.
About your offer, this thread stands mostly with learning. The idea is everyone being able to contribute and more users start bringing roms as their first times. So, thank you so much for lending your help and know how, I'm sure we'll have a fine list of possible ports and then we can talk about how to port them over
Everyone can ask for help and the idea is to everyone who is able to - help.
I like the idea of this thread, but what would also be quite usefull is a list of available ROMs and their maintainer(s).
Also the list should include ROMs someone is working on ATM, so it cannot happpen that 2 devs are working on the same ROM
However, your idea is good, but porting a ROM not from sorce is quite hard, and might need some smali "hacking" in order to resolve bugs.
But well, we're a community, and I guess we can help each other if needed, right
laufersteppenwolf said:
I like the idea of this thread, but what would also be quite usefull is a list of available ROMs and their maintainer(s).
Also the list should include ROMs someone is working on ATM, so it cannot happpen that 2 devs are working on the same ROM
However, your idea is good, but porting a ROM not from sorce is quite hard, and might need some smali "hacking" in order to resolve bugs.
But well, we're a community, and I guess we can help each other if needed, right
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That's correct! :good:
The main point is to learn helping each other who knows in a month or so, today's whiners are tomorrow's contributors
Jokes aside, the first post will be edited in order to structure and add information.
I'm gonna start with compatible devices (the ones that allow porting in a easy way). Ideas? Besides the HTC One X ? I'm guessing the grouper (N7 2012) besides having the same soc, doesn't have the same screen...
PS - (this would be better with an experienced porter) - Maybe we could start with a easy one, and go on from there
I know we have "how to port" threads all around xda ,but each port is different so we can't use "one hat to fit them all" ... or a ring to rule them all, so we should treat each port differently.
However.. I'm gonna put some xda links about porting to bring some light into the matter for who is "new" on this subject... or for whom's feeling adventurous and can't wait to have "their" rom on "our" device
Oh yes finally, have been waiting for a thread like this for a long time me as well would love to see a sense rom on this phone
cm/aosp roms are not that hard to port most of the time u only need the same screen resolution for it to work. (ported a nexus s touchwiz rom over to my old lg optimus 2x) but would have loved to see some oem roms ported over as well, even though it would be a lot harder to port over. but as a wonderful community as this is we might be able to pull it off
MidnightDevil said:
That's correct! :good:
The main point is to learn helping each other who knows in a month or so, today's whiners are tomorrow's contributors
Jokes aside, the first post will be edited in order to structure and add information.
I'm gonna start with compatible devices (the ones that allow porting in a easy way). Ideas? Besides the HTC One X ? I'm guessing the grouper (N7 2012) besides having the same soc, doesn't have the same screen...
PS - (this would be better with an experienced porter) - Maybe we could start with a easy one, and go on from there
I know we have "how to port" threads all around xda ,but each port is different so we can't use "one hat to fit them all" ... or a ring to rule them all, so we should treat each port differently.
However.. I'm gonna put some xda links about porting to bring some light into the matter for who is "new" on this subject... or for whom's feeling adventurous and can't wait to have "their" rom on "our" device
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You can add the HOX+ to the list as well
About porting, you need to seperate it in two halfs, porting from source, and "winzipping". TBH, I'm no fas of winzipping at all, but some stuff (like sense or TW) can only be winzipped...
BTW, if you need a 2nd/3rd post, just let me know
Personally, I'd like to see a GFlex or even better, a G2 (/mini) ROM for our phone (KitKat, of course )
This thread has potential
I'm new to this forum,so i dont know whats going on about roms,i see there are few devs working full time.
I think this is the best way to go: Port ALL open source roms,such as we have already,but we need them all.
Second,make a badass kernel,with all features and customizations,possibly 3.4.
Third,and just a suggestion,Make a community ROM?
I really like this thread,and i even more like this OX4 community,you all get along,and i've missed that,i was on a forum that has no frendly people whatsoever.
And,about the roms,the idea is awesome,but i always think of the clash of clans rule,max everything out before going on a higher level.
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Regarding stock roms, it's an interesting thing, but I'm guessing stock roms are more trouble to port comparing to AOSP or CM.
I remember on the HTC Sensation forums the headaches sense brought to many developers and porters, the bunch of files that needed to be edited, kernel changes (aosp kernel is different from stock / sense kernel in that case).. so Stock roms are maybe harder to port fully.
Right now we have some apks from the G2 (lock screen, messaging, etc..), maybe someone will port some things from the Flex, but the whole base.. hum
@DeHuMaNiZeD , thanks for your reply
The other roms based of AOSP and CM, in my opinion, unless they're different (modded, themed, customized - etc..) but if not, if they are "clean" roms with no changes, then - we have them already I believe you'll agree. (Unless the idea is to test something).
A 3.4 kernel would be something, but perhaps a developer can shed some light here - what benefits would we have from a 3.4 kernel ?
A community rom is indeed long due. This thread is a different subject because it's about *several* roms, ports and tutorials, maybe you would like to create a thread here on General about that? You can start with votes (i believe it's a proper way to do it) with which base should we use (Cm, AOSP, Stock, etc..), included apps (or not), possibly aroma maybe and so on
DeHuMaNiZeD said:
This thread has potential
I'm new to this forum,so i dont know whats going on about roms,i see there are few devs working full time.
I think this is the best way to go: Port ALL open source roms,such as we have already,but we need them all.
Second,make a badass kernel,with all features and customizations,possibly 3.4.
Third,and just a suggestion,Make a community ROM?
I really like this thread,and i even more like this OX4 community,you all get along,and i've missed that,i was on a forum that has no frendly people whatsoever.
And,about the roms,the idea is awesome,but i always think of the clash of clans rule,max everything out before going on a higher level.
Sent from my LG-P880 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Well, this sounds quite good, but the real problem is: this is a hell lot of work. Also, it needs resources. The sourcecode of a ROM is ~25-30GB. When it's compiled it's about double the size, and takes my PC (8 cores @ 4GHz) about 75Min to compile. Not to mention the time 'til the sources are Downloaded. My 500GB HDD is near to its limit very soon, so sooner or later I will need a new HDD, then I might be able to get another ROM ported, but right now, hard...
Also, why do you need a 3.4 kernel?
MidnightDevil said:
Regarding stock roms, it's an interesting thing, but I'm guessing stock roms are more trouble to port comparing to AOSP or CM.
I remember on the HTC Sensation forums the headaches sense brought to many developers and porters, the bunch of files that needed to be edited, kernel changes (aosp kernel is different from stock / sense kernel in that case).. so Stock roms are maybe harder to port fully.
Right now we have some apks from the G2 (lock screen, messaging, etc..), maybe someone will port some things from the Flex, but the whole base.. hum
@DeHuMaNiZeD , thanks for your reply
The other roms based of AOSP and CM, in my opinion, unless they're different (modded, themed, customized - etc..) but if not, if they are "clean" roms with no changes, then - we have them already I believe you'll agree. (Unless the idea is to test something).
A 3.4 kernel would be something, but perhaps a developer can shed some light here - what benefits would we have from a 3.4 kernel ?
A community rom is indeed long due. This thread is a different subject because it's about *several* roms, ports and tutorials, maybe you would like to create a thread here on General about that? You can start with votes (i believe it's a proper way to do it) with which base should we use (Cm, AOSP, Stock, etc..), included apps (or not), possibly aroma maybe and so on
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For stock ROMs to work, it's your best bet to use AOSP as your base, and then look for what's missing/broken. This, however, means you need an AOSP base first to work with. And AOSP is not always the easiest thing to get properly running.
About the benefits of an 3.4 kernel: None IMO. All you get is a higher version-number, and that's it. We actually already have some 3.4 features backported, and also tweaked the 3.1 kernel quite a lot. So the actual benefits are all in your head (well, except you count bugs as benefits )
Community ROM? Meh, what for? We have so many ROMs already, so everyone should find the one that suits him/her best
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Well, this sounds quite good, but the real problem is: this is a hell lot of work. Also, it needs resources. The sourcecode of a ROM is ~25-30GB. When it's compiled it's about double the size, and takes my PC (8 cores @ 4GHz) about 75Min to compile. Not to mention the time 'til the sources are Downloaded. My 500GB HDD is near to its limit very soon, so sooner or later I will need a new HDD, then I might be able to get another ROM ported, but right now, hard...
Also, why do you need a 3.4 kernel?
For stock ROMs to work, it's your best bet to use AOSP as your base, and then look for what's missing/broken. This, however, means you need an AOSP base first to work with. And AOSP is not always the easiest thing to get properly running.
About the benefits of an 3.4 kernel: None IMO. All you get is a higher version-number, and that's it. We actually already have some 3.4 features backported, and also tweaked the 3.1 kernel quite a lot. So the actual benefits are all in your head (well, except you count bugs as benefits )
Community ROM? Meh, what for? We have so many ROMs already, so everyone should find the one that suits him/her best
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Why dont you set up that build server,i think they're cheap atm,or someone could borrow you? It would take a lot less time and effort. that's why i think offical rom support is important,once it's merged to the build bot,its their responsibility.
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DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Why dont you set up that build server,i think they're cheap atm,or someone could borrow you? It would take a lot less time and effort. that's why i think offical rom support is important,once it's merged to the build bot,its their responsibility.
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It's not as easy as you might think
I do have access to a buildserver, however I only have 100GB as it's a shared one, so this is genious for official builds, or quick tests/ports. But it isn't ideal for the long terms.
Also, having it official doesn't mean you're done you need to update it, and also fix it when it's broken. 'cause when it's broken, it can mess up the whole build process of the buildbot
But in general, you're right, having it official does help a lot
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Does anyone of you have a link to the latest CM10.2 (Android 4.3) for our device?
It seems like it's not anymore on get.cm and I wanted to start porting a TouchWiz (Note 3) ROM to our phone when I have free time
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I can't find them either, but I'm on a tablet so I can't look properly. 
 @laufersteppenwolf, do you have any *spare* 4.3 build?
MidnightDevil said:
I can't find them either, but I'm on a tablet so I can't look properly.
@laufersteppenwolf, do you have any *spare* 4.3 build?
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LOL, no, I do not, but gimme a few hours and I'll have one
Syncing right now
laufersteppenwolf said:
LOL, no, I do not, but gimme a few hours and I'll have one
Syncing right now
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Thank you
{fd}ware said:
BTW, did anyone tried to port a ROM this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245786
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Nope, I actually never "winzipped" a ROM
Lot of things to comment on here. Very good initiative I have to admit. I'm sure I'll have more ideas as the discussion evolves.
Similar hardware: You can add HOX+ as laufer said. Very minor differences are there only.
What I would personally prefer is TouchWiz, at least Nature UX 2.0, but new S5 UI is also really awesome. I liked Sense till 4.5, but 5.0+ versions are now out of my 'inner circles'. Especially what I don't like is the UI.
Few suggestions:
FlymeOS (from Meizu MX) - I got 2.0 booting last summer, but had touchkey issues (they were freezing the device lol) and never released it. Nobody ever booted 2.0+ on other Android devices yet.
Porting LG roms might be the best start, I think porting full Optimus G system wouldn't be that hard. Just a pain in the *ss merging process.
What we mainly need is same screen size (unless you wanna resizing 100+ apps ). Similar SoC is a good extra, but that's very limited. Also, it's better to avoid Qualcomm SoCs to port from, it's extremely hard, there are a lot of code changes in low-level code which just make the device get into deep segfault cycles. :cyclops: Even Exynos is easier to port from, trust me. I got SGS3 leaked 4.2 booting on the O4X last autumn.
Big issue we have to note: In 4.2, Google radically changed graphics libraries code. We have old, 4.1.2 blobs and those need hacks in libgui.so and libsurfaceflinger.so to function properly (in 4.4+ libEGL.so, libGLES_v1_CM.so and libGLES_v2.so also need a change). Here comes the problem: Manufacturers do change these libraries, mainly adding Wi-Fi display and HDMI support code which other blobs rely on. Of course we can't just replace these libs, graphics wouldn't function that way. Either we have to guess those function signatures and reimplement some stub in the code, or use new blobs, i.e. what I did in Omni. But y'all now those are not perfect _yet_.
Regarding newer kernels: If, I emphasize, IF it's properly ported, it would cause a noticeable effect on overall performance, battery life, etc. What do I mean by proper porting: All machine-specific code must be updated to Nvidia/Google upstream, no excuses! I don't say anything for sure, I didn't check it much, but kholk didn't do this merge. His kernel still uses 3.1 files with slight modifications to be 3.4-compatible. What I mean would be a very long and painful process, but would surely benefit after all. 3.4 has no Android branch, mainline Nvidia Tegra kernel does only have Linux support, it might be even harder. 3.10 is maintained by Google for Android, issues I have found so far: No graphics driver support for T2 and T3, have to forward-port it and I didn't find core Android components like wakelocks, earlysuspend, etc. Weird.
A little related story: I initially started working on MultiROM so I can test and port different roms while I can keep a stable rom for myself and there'd be no need for reflash then. That's what I can suggest. Use MultiROM, it has so many capabilities! Maybe it's better with kernel sharing so you don't have to wait for hardboot on every reboot (which one needs a lot if porting). @MidnightDevil you could add this to the OP maybe.
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I can't find them either, but I'm on a tablet so I can't look properly.
@laufersteppenwolf, do you have any *spare* 4.3 build?
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Here you are! Compiled this because wanted to start porting from Note 2, but finally worked on Omni more and abandoned it.
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BTW, did anyone tried to port a ROM this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245786
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That's way too generic unfortunately.
Quick suggestion for you port: Use Note 2 base with Note 3 features. Note 2 has the same resolution and you won't need to resize.
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Lot of things to comment on here. Very good initiative I have to admit. I'm sure I'll have more ideas as the discussion evolves.
Similar hardware: You can add HOX+ as laufer said. Very minor differences are there only.
What I would personally prefer is TouchWiz, at least Nature UX 2.0, but new S5 UI is also really awesome. I liked Sense till 4.5, but 5.0+ versions are now out of my 'inner circles'. Especially what I don't like is the UI.
Few suggestions:
FlymeOS (from Meizu MX) - I got 2.0 booting last summer, but had touchkey issues (they were freezing the device lol) and never released it. Nobody ever booted 2.0+ on other Android devices yet.
Porting LG roms might be the best start, I think porting full Optimus G system wouldn't be that hard. Just a pain in the *ss merging process.
What we mainly need is same screen size (unless you wanna resizing 100+ apps ). Similar SoC is a good extra, but that's very limited. Also, it's better to avoid Qualcomm SoCs to port from, it's extremely hard, there are a lot of code changes in low-level code which just make the device get into deep segfault cycles. :cyclops: Even Exynos is easier to port from, trust me. I got SGS3 leaked 4.2 booting on the O4X last autumn.
Big issue we have to note: In 4.2, Google radically changed graphics libraries code. We have old, 4.1.2 blobs and those need hacks in libgui.so and libsurfaceflinger.so to function properly (in 4.4+ libEGL.so, libGLES_v1_CM.so and libGLES_v2.so also need a change). Here comes the problem: Manufacturers do change these libraries, mainly adding Wi-Fi display and HDMI support code which other blobs rely on. Of course we can't just replace these libs, graphics wouldn't function that way. Either we have to guess those function signatures and reimplement some stub in the code, or use new blobs, i.e. what I did in Omni. But y'all now those are not perfect _yet_.
Regarding newer kernels: If, I emphasize, IF it's properly ported, it would cause a noticeable effect on overall performance, battery life, etc. What do I mean by proper porting: All machine-specific code must be updated to Nvidia/Google upstream, no excuses! I don't say anything for sure, I didn't check it much, but kholk didn't do this merge. His kernel still uses 3.1 files with slight modifications to be 3.4-compatible. What I mean would be a very long and painful process, but would surely benefit after all. 3.4 has no Android branch, mainline Nvidia Tegra kernel does only have Linux support, it might be even harder. 3.10 is maintained by Google for Android, issues I have found so far: No graphics driver support for T2 and T3, have to forward-port it and I didn't find core Android components like wakelocks, earlysuspend, etc. Weird.
A little related story: I initially started working on MultiROM so I can test and port different roms while I can keep a stable rom for myself and there'd be no need for reflash then. That's what I can suggest. Use MultiROM, it has so many capabilities! Maybe it's better with kernel sharing so you don't have to wait for hardboot on every reboot (which one needs a lot if porting). @MidnightDevil you could add this to the OP maybe.
Here you are! Compiled this because wanted to start porting from Note 2, but finally worked on Omni more and abandoned it.
That's way too generic unfortunately.
Quick suggestion for you port: Use Note 2 base with Note 3 features. Note 2 has the same resolution and you won't need to resize.
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Dang, you've beaten me but mine's as fresh as it could be
HERE you guys go, for all who need the newest CM10.2
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Dang, you've beaten me but mine's as fresh as it could be
HERE you guys go, for all who need the newest CM10.2
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Just don't delete the sources, you might need them in the close future.
I think we should create a schedule about what to do. As you all know, good buildings all have good grounding. So let's get started from the very beginning I say. First fix remaining bugs in MultiROM, then create a unified kernel so users don't have to choose. Very likely this is not possible as people think different so just make all kernels hardboot compatible. After these we have a solid base for starting all the work. Of course this cannot be done if not everybody is involved. Both devs and users should share a part in this magnificent journey.
(High expectations, I know. )
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[Q] LG G3 Leak of Android 5 Build

Was wondering how hard it would be to port it to our device if there are not much differences
I really hope some wonderful devs port Lollipop G3 ROM to our Device.
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same here we definitely have a lack of support for our device
We can all become devs if our time allows.. I myself almost complie a cm11 til i find out there is some coding myself to make it work because is unofficial, but little by little im getting to the point that i feel i can contribute to the community, like i said is can be hard if you let it be.. There is alot info, forums and help from google and even cm itself... To start with i mean you have to have some knowledge and never giving up, at least is working for me
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i hear you i tried a bunch of guides but i cant seem to pinpoint where im going wrong plus with the g3 leak of android 5 i wouldn't know where to start there are significant differences such as hardware and key components that need to be striped and customized to work with our device. for that we need the experience of a of senior lvl dev
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i hear you i tried a bunch of guides but i cant seem to pinpoint where im going wrong plus with the g3 leak of android 5 i wouldn't know where to start there are significant differences such as hardware and key components that need to be striped and customized to work with our device. for that we need the experience of a of senior lvl dev
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I'm gonna help everyone out here. The G3 leak will not make it to our device. All the apps are made to work on that 2k even (i.e all the apps have huge images) every app would have to be decompiled individually and resized to fit our screen. Then they would have to be modded (depends on what needed done) to work on our phone. Way to much work and possibly not even possible with kernel, etc that would need done.
As for support unfortunately we dont have many devs due to just not being a popular device and the locked down boot loader. We lost D-FUSE and justinwidebody to the G3, we do have playfulgod who's okay (definitely joking) and i know mattwheat is working on some stuff. When i get time I'm going to get back to working on my g3 themed ROM (some apps already ported by another user just need tweaked), but sadly I'm far from a dev so I won't be much help with big problems like cm11.
I do recommend everyone just jumping in and doing what they can. I started with small theme changes moved to small mods following guides and eventually released my first ROM in the note 2. You really can learn and we'll need all the help we can plus most people here are pretty helpful if you get stuck.
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I'm gonna help everyone out here. The G3 leak will not make it to our device. All the apps are made to work on that 2k even (i.e all the apps have huge images) every app would have to be decompiled individually and resized to fit our screen. Then they would have to be modded (depends on what needed done) to work on our phone. Way to much work and possibly not even possible with kernel, etc that would need done.
As for support unfortunately we dont have many devs due to just not being a popular device and the locked down boot loader. We lost D-FUSE and justinwidebody to the G3, we do have playfulgod who's okay (definitely joking) and i know mattwheat is working on some stuff. When i get time I'm going to get back to working on my g3 themed ROM (some apps already ported by another user just need tweaked), but sadly I'm far from a dev so I won't be much help with big problems like cm11.
I do recommend everyone just jumping in and doing what they can. I started with small theme changes moved to small mods following guides and eventually released my first ROM in the note 2. You really can learn and we'll need all the help we can plus most people here are pretty helpful if you get stuck.
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Definitely hear you loud and clear that's was my first assumption but how would it be possible for the g2 to receive a complete port of the ROM from the G3 that cloudfy came out with the g2 has Noway near a the same specs as the g3. That's something that I thought about but even with that said wouldn't it still be possible to exclude the lg apps and just push out everything that is non compatible for our device. But I am still doing some research and learning along the way don't want to release anything until I have a full understanding of what I'm actually doing.
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Definitely hear you loud and clear that's was my first assumption but how would it be possible for the g2 to receive a complete port of the ROM from the G3 that cloudfy came out with the g2 has Noway near a the same specs as the g3. That's something that I thought about but even with that said wouldn't it still be possible to exclude the lg apps and just push out everything that is non compatible for our device. But I am still doing some research and learning along the way don't want to release anything until I have a full understanding of what I'm actually doing.
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Looking at Cloudys threads i think it's their stock g2 ROM with the g3 apps ported. I'm saying that because all his ports use the same kernel. If it was really 3 different base ROMs that wouldn't work. I could be confused though and completely wrong. If that's the case then that's what I'm working in for us (or will if i ever get time. It won't be to the level of perfection his it's though. One thing to keep mind if that it's the case is its really hard to port apps from a higher version of android. I never said a full port was impossible, just that i highly doubt it happens. I'm pretty sure playfulgod isn't going to do it. I know I'm not even going to try. Not sure about matt or if there's adev hiding in the wings who may give it a go.
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Looking at Cloudys threads i think it's their stock g2 ROM with the g3 apps ported. I'm saying that because all his ports use the same kernel. If it was really 3 different base ROMs that wouldn't work. I could be confused though and completely wrong. If that's the case then that's what I'm working in for us (or will if i ever get time. It won't be to the level of perfection his it's though. One thing to keep mind if that it's the case is its really hard to port apps from a higher version of android. I never said a full port was impossible, just that i highly doubt it happens. I'm pretty sure playfulgod isn't going to do it. I know I'm not even going to try. Not sure about matt or if there's adev hiding in the wings who may give it a go.
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Hear you on that end but it does kinda suck that we don't have many devs tho but like you said if everyone can try and contribute something g it may help bring us the help we may need
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Hear you on that end but it does kinda suck that we don't have many devs tho but like you said if everyone can try and contribute something g it may help bring us the help we may need
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Is anybody here who can port G3 rom to G Flex?? anybody help us.
Kintwofan is right. If you're gonna port it needs to be a like brand, like resolution, like CPU / GPU. Makes it so much easier. Decompiling then recompiling and not finding out till its to late that something had an error when recompiling or when signing can be a ***** to find and or recover from late in the game. Or to find out all together that your hours on hours of hard work was for nothing. The g2 is more on our "like" side.
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Plus if you're just wanting lollipop apks on your phone. Most google apks have already updated and if not you can always download the 5.0 gapps extract and replace some don't work but most do. I've done it and use the google launcher. Almost has an aosp feel.
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Is anybody here who can port G3 rom to G Flex?? anybody help us.
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not really to sure the only person i have seen port G3 roms over to other LG devices was and is cloudyfa
ryuken11221 said:
not really to sure the only person i have seen port G3 roms over to other LG devices was and is cloudyfa
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Its easier to port g3 Roms to g2 due to all the the screen size (res folders). Going to our device with lower resolution and bigger screen seems like a lot of work. It would be much easier I think to get the android 5.0 SDK images and build aosp from source or wait on cm-12
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Its easier to port g3 Roms to g2 due to all the the screen size (res folders). Going to our device with lower resolution and bigger screen seems like a lot of work. It would be much easier I think to get the android 5.0 SDK images and build aosp from source or wait on cm-12
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Cool sounds like a good place to start but even if we do build a asop ROM wouldn't we need a base to get everything working

What ROM would you like to see/use on your L90?

Alright, I'll try to keep this short and simple. I have been developing for various devices over the last 2 years (Galaxy Captivate, Galaxy S2, Nexus 4, Kindle Fire Lineup, etc) The Nexus 4 was my main phone, up until recently. I dropped the phone getting out of the car one night, and now the touch screen is completely unresponsive. So I decided to grab a cheap replacement for the time being, while I order a new screen for the N4. I see some devs have gotten several custom ROMs running for this device, awesome job! When I got this phone, I had no idea it would be developer friendly, what a surprise. This lead me to the decision to start compiling something for the L90. What I want to know from everyone here, is what ROM would you like to see on your device? I've gathered up several choices, so I'd like to start a little poll.
My intentions are to either compile something from source, and frequently update it here for everyone. Or to fork over CM, and customize it myself (via cherry-picks, custom wallpapers, optimized toolchains, performance enhancements, etc) However these builds would be less frequent, unless some people were willing to contribute. If so, then feel free to let me know! Also, please ask as many questions, or make as many suggestions as you want. I'm trying to get my post count up lol. All the development I've done prior to this, has been mainly released on Google+. I figured I would target a larger audience here for now though, until I can create a community specifically for the L90 on G+. I'd greatly appreciate any and all feedback!
Great to see such motivated will. What I'd like to see on L90 is completely stable LP rom, doesn't really matter which one, but out of two I had chance to use - which is CM and Ressurection Remix - I'd choose RR. Dunno if devs of roms such as AOKP and billions of others are making/are planning to make LP versions though
agreed, it would be nice to see a fully functioning ROM whether it be kitkat or lollipop. When i say stable i mean video playback and recording working camera quality back to normal (on all roms their is a lack or clarity,crisp,and focus) and good memory management. If you can get those working i don't care what kind of rom is is
cataclysm rom
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agreed, it would be nice to see a fully functioning ROM whether it be kitkat or lollipop. When i say stable i mean video playback and recording working camera quality back to normal (on all roms their is a lack or clarity,crisp,and focus) and good memory management. If you can get those working i don't care what kind of rom is is
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What a nice feeling not having D415 thus those problems...
Also, I think it is impossible to get stock LG camera libs to get to work on custom roms, or - at best - it would have take a hell of time. So I guess quality will stay like this forever...
I appreciate all the feedback so far! I'm an android enthusiast for sure. Ever since I used my first custom ROM, which was CM 7 if I'm not mistaking, I fell in love. From there, I spoke with a few developers I had met, and started learning everything about compiling ROMs. They were a huge help, and they also pointed me to some great guides online. After lots of trial and error, I was able to get my first source built ROM booted up, and running. From there on out, I was hooked lol. With that being said, I'd love to build some new custom ROMs for all the L90 users here. Also I have a few questions before I start the process, so if any L90 dev's see this, send me a PM or something. Just curious about a few things, such as unified builds and what not. I'm going to go ahead and set my build machine up, and get it ready to start compilation. But in the meantime, keep the comments/ideas/suggestions coming in! Also, the poll will be up for 14 days, but I'm sure I'll start building something before then
omnirom
I want a custom kernel with OC and other features.
Just a quick update for everyone. I installed LXLE on a laptop to get my builds going. Unfortunately that distro brought in a lot of headaches. And on top of that, I couldn't get any source to finish a simple sync. (Tried mokee, and cm) I'm not sure why, but my best guess was it had something to do with that screwy LXLE distro. Now I just finished putting Mint on the laptop, so I'll post an update again once I see if the repo sync command will finish without hanging up at 99%
Could you start by a AOSP one? Then go for custom ROM.
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MOKEE
Modded stock kernel
A good OC-UC UV kernel would be good for the stock kitkat, i dont need a full rom, its very good with xposed framework! Thanks for your work!
Update
Alright everyone, I got all the issues I was having fixed. Just took some time. Right now, I have MoKee compiling(android version 5.1.0_r5) for the L90. Once it is complete, I'll flash it to make sure it boots up and everything. After that I'll leave a link here for anyone to flash if they want. This is strictly going to be straight MoKee from source, no changes on my end yet. Once I know everything compiles correctly, I'll start optimizing the build and trying to fix any bugs I can. As well as cherry pick features and what not. I'm also looking into the kernel config files so I can try to include a custom kernel(OC/UC and UV) I will start a new thread when all this begins though. Thanks for the support and suggestions so far!
Which L90 do you have? D415?
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Which L90 do you have? D415?
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Yea, I have the D415
Update
So the build almost finished yesterday, but I ran into an OOM error right at the end. I was using an old dual core laptop with 3gb of RAM, which worked fine with JB and KK etc. So I gave it another gig of RAM, and put a lighter desktop environment on it. Everything should go fine from here, see you all soon with another update!
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So the build almost finished yesterday, but I ran into an OOM error right at the end. I was using an old dual core laptop with 3gb of RAM, which worked fine with JB and KK etc. So I gave it another gig of RAM, and put a lighter desktop environment on it. Everything should go fine from here, see you all soon with another update!
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well done
Success!
The MoKee ROM compiled successfully! Now I will fork over repositories to my github, and start the customizations/bug fixes. It will take a little bit before builds start rolling out, but I will start a new thread for that. For those of you that would like to try out the MoKee build, I will upload it and leave a link here shortly. This is straight from source, no changes at all (except what was necessary to get it to compile correctly) It will have all the same issues the latest cm has (camera focus, etc.) I built it from quarx's unified device tree, so it should work on d405, d410, d415. Thanks for everyone's patience!
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The MoKee ROM compiled successfully! Now I will fork over repositories to my github, and start the customizations/bug fixes. It will take a little bit before builds start rolling out, but I will start a new thread for that. For those of you that would like to try out the MoKee build, I will upload it and leave a link here shortly. This is straight from source, no changes at all (except what was necessary to get it to compile correctly) It will have all the same issues the latest cm has (camera focus, etc.) I built it from quarx's unified device tree, so it should work on d405, d410, d415. Thanks for everyone's patience!
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That's great man thanks
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That's great man thanks
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No problem!

Miui Rom

Would any developer be willing to create an MIUI or IOS ROM for the HTC Desire 626 Metro PCs?
MIUI: Would they- No ; Could they- Yes, but there is not a single reason to do so.
iOS - Impossible
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MIUI: Would they- No ; Could they- Yes, but there is not a single reason to do so.
iOS - Impossible
Also, wrong section. Please try to follow forum guidelines and post in the appropriate section (q&a)
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Will repost in q&a. Thanks so much for your kind answer. Looks like you got it all figured out.
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iOS - Impossible
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Probably a reference to JoyOS, an iOS cloned theme that was last seen around the time CM 7 was still the most popular ROM. To my knowledge the original Chinese forum which was doing the heavy lifting abandoned this quite some time ago. With the exception of the Goophone I don't think anyone is doing full conversion ROMs which resemble iOS anymore and their systems don't seem to have been dumped and translated yet, which by this time indicates there is no interest.
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Probably a reference to JoyOS, an iOS cloned theme that was last seen around the time CM 7 was still the most popular ROM. To my knowledge the original Chinese forum which was doing the heavy lifting abandoned this quite some time ago. With the exception of the Goophone I don't think anyone is doing full conversion ROMs which resemble iOS anymore and their systems don't seem to have been dumped and translated yet, which by this time indicates there is no interest.
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That explains the reason why there's no more ios rom creation. But, what about MIUI? The os of MIUI has dramatically evolved over the past 4 years. Am I tripping, or is it that no one wants to take a crack at creating a rom for us little guys for devices such as the HTC Desire 626s?
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But, what about MIUI? The os of MIUI has dramatically evolved over the past 4 years. Am I tripping, or is it that no one wants to take a crack at creating a rom for us little guys for devices such as the HTC Desire 626s?
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Believe it or not rom creation is hard and relies on having the sources available (which not all companies will do--HTC used to be better than most about this which is why I took a chance on this phone) and on having developers who have the phone and are capable\willing to do the hard work of making a complete AOSP or Cyangogenmod version of the base operating system. Only after that has been completed do you usually start to see more exotic systems like MIUI, Mokee, ParanoidAndroid, etc, get ported over. Even then there's a dirty little secret about Android roms:
Most of them never get 100% compatibility and hardware support. Ever. Despite the best efforts of the porters.
I had an HTC One V which did well for its time but the camera never quite made it to 100% hardware support. Same thing with bluetooth. My LG Optimus F3 never quite got anywhere with roms and eventually I gave up on it and moved on to the HTC Desire 626s which despite some solid efforts at producing the slimmed down version I am currently running also does not seem to have any real custom android roms.
This goes back to my first point: Rom creation is hard.
That's why even when people put up bounties and buy phones for well known rom hackers who have produced many ports, it still doesn't always result in new roms. Because it's a lot harder than it looks.
I was spoiled initially, I had an LG Optimus V which quickly had a custom rom built for it with very good hardware support which was lean and clean. There were custom kernels for it and it quickly had all sorts of ports of everything from CM7 to JoyOS to MIUI to Mokee and friends within a relatively short period of time. It was the little phone that could and I mistakenly believed that because lightening struck and all sorts of good things were happening this was how it always was. Not even close to the case.
I got lucky. The LG Optimus V was cheap enough that it attracted all sorts of interest from a variety of the right people at the right time. This kind of thing isn't even close to being normal. Some times you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
So why not MIUI? Well I'm sorry to say but for one thing MIUI is heavy. It's heavy like Touchwiz or Sense can be, and that sort of thing can only be helped with massive amounts of optimization. Sadly not every phone has a developer (or group of developers) who are willing to do that sort of thing for free.
So all I can say is appreciate the level of development we've got and be thankful for the work of the developers who have released a slimmer rom for us already. If you need a MIUI rom for your phone, you should probably track the releases here before buying. If you check the forums, you'll see you are not alone. There are lots of people who want MIUI ports.
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Believe it or not rom creation is hard and relies on having the sources available (which not all companies will do--HTC used to be better than most about this which is why I took a chance on this phone) and on having developers who have the phone and are capable\willing to do the hard work of making a complete AOSP or Cyangogenmod version of the base operating system. Only after that has been completed do you usually start to see more exotic systems like MIUI, Mokee, ParanoidAndroid, etc, get ported over. Even then there's a dirty little secret about Android roms:
Most of them never get 100% compatibility and hardware support. Ever. Despite the best efforts of the porters.
I had an HTC One V which did well for its time but the camera never quite made it to 100% hardware support. Same thing with bluetooth. My LG Optimus F3 never quite got anywhere with roms and eventually I gave up on it and moved on to the HTC Desire 626s which despite some solid efforts at producing the slimmed down version I am currently running also does not seem to have any real custom android roms.
This goes back to my first point: Rom creation is hard.
That's why even when people put up bounties and buy phones for well known rom hackers who have produced many ports, it still doesn't always result in new roms. Because it's a lot harder than it looks.
I was spoiled initially, I had an LG Optimus V which quickly had a custom rom built for it with very good hardware support which was lean and clean. There were custom kernels for it and it quickly had all sorts of ports of everything from CM7 to JoyOS to MIUI to Mokee and friends within a relatively short period of time. It was the little phone that could and I mistakenly believed that because lightening struck and all sorts of good things were happening this was how it always was. Not even close to the case.
I got lucky. The LG Optimus V was cheap enough that it attracted all sorts of interest from a variety of the right people at the right time. This kind of thing isn't even close to being normal. Some times you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
So why not MIUI? Well I'm sorry to say but for one thing MIUI is heavy. It's heavy like Touchwiz or Sense can be, and that sort of thing can only be helped with massive amounts of optimization. Sadly not every phone has a developer (or group of developers) who are willing to do that sort of thing for free.
So all I can say is appreciate the level of development we've got and be thankful for the work of the developers who have released a slimmer rom for us already. If you need a MIUI rom for your phone, you should probably track the releases here before buying. If you check the forums, you'll see you are not alone. There are lots of people who want MIUI ports.
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Thank you. You have truly answered my questions, even ones I wondered about but didn't ask. I am greatly satisfied with what you have said. I understand that rom creation is hard and it can take a toll on the one creating the rom. It's not an easy task. I to had a Samsung galaxy epic 4g touch, which had all sorts of roms for it. But also knowing from experience, you are correct. It is a hit and miss sometimes with some devices you buy. Maybe as newer devices are created, the ability to create ROMs for them gets harder because of the upgraded technology and coding. I could be wrong. On the miui official site, they is a list of devices that they support. But most of them are old school and i surely wouldn't want to take a step down from this phone just to have miui. Then the newer phones in some cases cost more than this phone(referring to the HTC desire 626). I do appreciate the effort that has been put forth for a slimmed down version for this phone. But what I've asked in previous threads was whether or not there is root access yet for the mm update for the metro PCs version of the HTC desire 626s. No bites what so ever. I'm guessing either there isn't any or I'm just not coming across it yet. Any help on that would be highly appreciated. But all in all, I would really like to say thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate that. You have brought some clarity to the table. I wouldn't mind help supporting a developer who would be willing to create an miui rom for our device once a cyanogenmod version is acquired.
s3llz said:
Thank you. You have truly answered my questions, even ones I wondered about but didn't ask. I am greatly satisfied with what you have said. I understand that rom creation is hard and it can take a toll on the one creating the rom. It's not an easy task. I to had a Samsung galaxy epic 4g touch, which had all sorts of roms for it. But also knowing from experience, you are correct. It is a hit and miss sometimes with some devices you buy. Maybe as newer devices are created, the ability to create ROMs for them gets harder because of the upgraded technology and coding. I could be wrong. On the miui official site, they is a list of devices that they support. But most of them are old school and i surely wouldn't want to take a step down from this phone just to have miui. Then the newer phones in some cases cost more than this phone(referring to the HTC desire 626). I do appreciate the effort that has been put forth for a slimmed down version for this phone. But what I've asked in previous threads was whether or not there is root access yet for the mm update for the metro PCs version of the HTC desire 626s. No bites what so ever. I'm guessing either there isn't any or I'm just not coming across it yet. Any help on that would be highly appreciated. But all in all, I would really like to say thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate that. You have brought some clarity to the table. I wouldn't mind help supporting a developer who would be willing to create an miui rom for our device once a cyanogenmod version is acquired.
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Metro pcs desire 626s can be rooted
IsaacGuti said:
Metro pcs desire 626s can be rooted
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By any chance would you mind telling me how you rooted it? I know how to unlock the bootloader, but where do I get the custom recover from and su?
s3llz said:
By any chance would you mind telling me how you rooted it? I know how to unlock the bootloader, but where do I get the custom recover from and su?
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The custom recovery is posted in this thread and used this> supersu.zip, fastboot flash the recovery and then flash the supersu.zip in recovery. After flashing supersu and booting up install busybox.
BUT don't forget to make a backup, just incase.
IsaacGuti said:
The custom recovery is posted in this thread and used this> supersu.zip, fastboot flash the recovery and then flash the supersu.zip in recovery. After flashing supersu and booting up install busybox.
BUT don't forget to make a backup, just incase.
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Thank you sir for the info. I am unlocked and rooted again. Now, I'll sit back and wait for some debloated roms to pop up for 6.0.1 2.17.1550.1 Metro PCS.
Hey, if you're still interested in Miui, you could try installing the launcher app, see if that gives you enough of the miui experience to get by until someone eventually makes a port?
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bornagainpenguin said:
Hey, if you're still interested in Miui, you could try installing the launcher app, see if that gives you enough of the miui experience to get by until someone eventually makes a port?
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Wish I could, but it isn't compatible with mashmallow.
s3llz said:
Wish I could, but it isn't compatible with mashmallow.
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My bad. Here I found the app in my Play Store history, (from before Google made it country specific?) and installed it. It immediately crashed but stayed open. From there I updated it from within the launcher settings and it crashed again. Just as I was about to give up I had a brainstorm and went back into settings and turned off the lockscreen. This made it stop crashing for me. I hunted around for Beautiful Widgets and replaced the clock and installed miui theme for it and everything looks good from here.
So I installed Titanium Backup and uploaded the app. Hopefully this helps you.
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