Okay, I wanted to take a moment to talk about the development for our device.
Recently CM decided to no longer support Tegra 2 devices as they are starting to get dated. So basically that boils down to the fact that the CM10.1 will be the last one for our device that I do.
Currently I'm trying to jump start the process of putting out our updated kernel from 2.6.36.4 -> 3.1. This will hopefully put our device at a point where everything should work.
DerArtem is the lead developer on the kernel, but has been busy because he just got married and works a full time job, which puts a damper on his time (which is understandable).
I am putting in an 1-2 hours every morning on this, trying to fix those bugs and was just tipped on a possible way to minimize the overload of the log with the USB error. This will be a hold off till we get the kernel done as these issues should go away after the update.
I am sad to see this tablet come to an end (though not yet). We all have to admit that its time we all start moving on. I am going to push to get these last bit done and call it quits. This can take anywhere from 2-5 months to finish up, maybe a bit longer and then our device will be done.
I have had an amazing time learning about Android under DJ_Steve and DerArtem, and thank them for taking the time to teach me.
I thank you what you done so far and in the future. Can blame you one bit for your decisions.
I think setting an "end game" is respectable, and is a good goal. The kernel work is the key to smoothing things over on what has been wonderful development thus far.
The fact you've taken us this far sir is very commendable and you and the crew deserve many thanks. For your time and efforts, you have my gratitude, and my tablet serves as a hobby rather than a shelved device.
4.2.x has been flawed since release by Google, and with the way android has evolved, future versions will undoubtedly require more current hardware and OEM support. The latest tablet releases have as much computing power as a 2 year old laptop! Thanks to you, we've managed to play with JB, and I look forward to what comes before a final release.:thumbup:
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Wow, I hate doing this, but I may have to close up shop on all this. Severe lack of any real work is getting done as I am looking for jobs and trying to have some game time as well.
The time to do this isn't worth it. I may ask for payments for my next ROM ($1 per download). Seriously, I hate doing it but this just isn't worth it anymore. Currently working on a AOKP release, to see if this may resolve any bugs I am having.
Hi giveen,
first of all thank you for all the time you spent on our old device. I already donated you some time ago and always had an eye on your progesses. I really understand your decision to ask for some payment for all the work and that is absolutely ok for me.
I use my DS7 (wifi only) on a daily base to check my mails, surf the net and stream some TV and video from my HTPC. Until now I use a HC 3.2 mod (514 mod by dreamer) together with V6 Supercharger script and am so far quite ok with that. So far I see no need to buy me a new tablet as long as the DS7 fits my few needs
But before I collect all my courage and update my DS7 in the near future to your CM10 build I want to ask a few things:
1. Is your build already stable and usable enough for the things I do with my device?
2. Any news from DerArtem about the kernel work? Will there be a new kernel for our device in the future?
THX,
Michael
Montezuma10 said:
Hi giveen,
first of all thank you for all the time you spent on our old device. I already donated you some time ago and always had an eye on your progesses. I really understand your decision to ask for some payment for all the work and that is absolutely ok for me.
I use my DS7 (wifi only) on a daily base to check my mails, surf the net and stream some TV and video from my HTPC. Until now I use a HC 3.2 mod (514 mod by dreamer) together with V6 Supercharger script and am so far quite ok with that. So far I see no need to buy me a new tablet as long as the DS7 fits my few needs
But before I collect all my courage and update my DS7 in the near future to your CM10 build I want to ask a few things:
1. Is your build already stable and usable enough for the things I do with my device?
2. Any news from DerArtem about the kernel work? Will there be a new kernel for our device in the future?
THX,
Michael
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If its from your HTPC, I honestly don't know as I have never tried it before. This latest build is much more stable, though it still has the gmail keyboard crash that I am tracking down. If you are happy with what you have, don't do anything. I would hate for you to make a purchase and not be happy.
I haven't heard from DerArtem in several weeks because he is in another country (Russia) doing a job. (He lives in Germany). To be honest, I don't think a new kernel is going to happen and I'm really upset by it.
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If its from your HTPC, I honestly don't know as I have never tried it before. This latest build is much more stable, though it still has the gmail keyboard crash that I am tracking down. If you are happy with what you have, don't do anything. I would hate for you to make a purchase and not be happy.
I haven't heard from DerArtem in several weeks because he is in another country (Russia) doing a job. (He lives in Germany). To be honest, I don't think a new kernel is going to happen and I'm really upset by it.
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One issue I see here is that when you start charging, a person paying for it like a app from the Play Store, they expect things to work. This "might" cause you to spend more time than you have been on it. Just my $0.02!
Didn't somebody donate an unused DS7 for DerArtem for this kernel project?
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One issue I see here is that when you start charging, a person paying for it like a app from the Play Store, they expect things to work. This "might" cause you to spend more time than you have been on it. Just my $0.02!
Didn't somebody donate an unused DS7 for DerArtem for this kernel project?
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They can contact me if they are having an issue. I appreciate the concern though.
Yes, someone did give their DS7 to him.
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They can contact me if they are having an issue. I appreciate the concern though.
Yes, someone did give their DS7 to him.
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I'll be downloading it later after some usage and a charge.
I'm working on sensors now. The old sensor drivers we used were for something we dont even have. I found the correct Android drivers but they are for qualcomm devices, so I need to modify them to work.
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I'm working on sensors now. The old sensor drivers we used were for something we dont even have. I found the correct Android drivers but they are for qualcomm devices, so I need to modify them to work.
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after several attempts and research I was still not the sound from my headphones with android android 2 and 3 sound going normally but not with 4.2.1 and 4.2.2.
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I am getting tired of running android on the x1. Battery lasts only a few hours no matter how much u try and tweak it. Standby also consumes too much battery, performance on apps are too weak. Speaker also does not off and a ringing tone keeps repeating.
Well this is only my opinion, some may feel the same but most will not give up hope. Seeing android lasting for a whole day ( include standby ) on my friend's hd2 makes me feel that x1 wasn't meant to run android and only poorly on windows mobile.
I will still encourage the developers to continue their work, and many great thks for allowing me to have a feel of android.
Thus, I will either get an android phone or one that hopefully could last longer running android.
GD Luck to the devs!!!( using android to post for the last time)
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Count the devs who are working on X1 android. Then count how many are working on HD2 android.
You cannot compare those two, since HD2 have a lot bigger community which means more devs that discover new things.
I also give up.
Im thankfull to all who are working on this. But is seems that battery issue will never be fixed.
So, guys, what is the point of these posts? Do you really think, you are going to motivate developers with saying you will quit?
Idiots, think of it as testing, each new build brings us closer to a fully working one. As of now it's not meant to be used everyday.
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Idiots, think of it as testing, each new build brings us closer to a fully working one. As of now it's not meant to be used everyday.
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That's it!
Lunie said:
Idiots, think of it as testing, each new build brings us closer to a fully working one. As of now it's not meant to be used everyday.
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You learned that talk from your parents or what???
First of all im visiting this sub-forum 100 times per day for last few months. I was always first to test new ports and kernels and always give feedback to developers to which im very gratefull for their work.
I dont know why this topic was opened. But what i want to say is that im not going to be active on this like i was before. Developers have my support and i wont abandone this completly. I will be first to congratulate them when its done, but its simply too long for me. This is not critic to developers...not at all.
In my line of work its important to resolve main issues and not bother with lesser issues. When you solved main problems than you advance to lesser problems.
I wont call you idiot my friend. You mentioned testing. For me its not effective for developers to constanlty test if some application works, if wifi, 3d, gps works in some versions and other wont. For me its painfull to bother with theese problems when you cant use android at all becouse of battery.
Developers should unite in order to fix battery life first.
Sorry if i insulted anyone (i think i didnt) but in 10 years of my work i learned in my work that issues should be solved hierarchicly.
P.S. Sorry for my slavic english
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You learned that talk from your parents or what???
First of all im visiting this sub-forum 100 times per day for last few months. I was always first to test new ports and kernels and always give feedback to developers to which im very gratefull for their work.
I dont know why this topic was opened. But what i want to say is that im not going to be active on this like i was before. Developers have my support and i wont abandone this completly. I will be first to congratulate them when its done, but its simply too long for me. This is not critic to developers...not at all.
In my line of work its important to resolve main issues and not bother with lesser issues. When you solved main problems than you advance to lesser problems.
I wont call you idiot my friend. You mentioned testing. For me its not effective for developers to constanlty test if some application works, if wifi, 3d, gps works in some versions and other wont. For me its painfull to bother with theese problems when you cant use android at all becouse of battery.
Developers should unite in order to fix battery life first.
Sorry if i insulted anyone (i think i didnt) but in 10 years of my work i learned in my work that issues should be solved hierarchicly.
P.S. Sorry for my slavic english
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True, devs are more interested to fix stuff like wifi, bluetooth, gps etc rather than battery. I hope that they will turn their attention to battery first, like successfully make the phone completely sleep in standby. Currently phone consumes the same amount of energy during standby as having the screen on.
But i would not say that developers wasted time doing useless porting of the android system. For Example: Without them wifi would still be completely broken and we would not get to use the android market at all.
Still users have to plug in the wall charger to be able to play or use android. All i hope for is that battery life the main focus of all devs. thanks
(Meanwhile getting another phone to run android till xperiax1 battery is fixed )
Yeah you are right. There is not much improvement in battery life last time, but i think devs are trying to do their best. For example tremere is experimenting with new battery driver and tickless kernel and neopeek have included launcher that is supposed to suck less power.
These things need time. And I'm sure that we will get decent power usage some day.
I have an X1, and i remember the first ever build of android for it, (few months ago), they were terrible, upside-down screen, only a few clicks work, but over time they arrived where we are now, a nearly fully working android for x1, give the hackers/devs some time and they will make it work 99%
I tried neopeek android copy on my x1, and i liked android so much, that 2 days ago i got myself an HD2, which is working now on some HD2 android builds (you will ask why not go directly to some android device, well, i still need windows for some apps, and as an escape in case i don't like android, if i see that i use android 100% of the time, i'll get an android device).
and guess what: HD2 androids suffer from battery issues, they are not few hours like the X1, but still they consume the battery very quickly compared to androids or HD2 windows.
Please do not compare porting android to the X1 with real work for money. It is something completely different, it is a hobby/learning/fun-project. From economical point of view it is complete nonsense because for 100 Euro you can buy a android 2.2 phone to play with. But this is not about money, so there is no pressure behind the development, so it takes time. MUCH TIME!
I agree that battery life is the last big stone in the way to every-day-use. And i am quite sure it is the last, because it is the most difficult to remove. Some time ago i tried myself on getting knowledge about linux/android powermanagement - it is a quite complex animal If you follow the kernel-thread, then it seems that there finally is some progress with power management. Some devs report "2% battery drop per hour on standby", so full day of normal use is getting closer.
Oh, and please dont suggest things like "Developers should unite in order to fix battery life first." Developers do not unite, they develop. Someone else has to spend some time and unite them. Everyone is welcome to do that
"I wont call you idiot my friend." - Well done!!!
Having owned Android phones for about a year and a half now, I'd say battery life on Android devices is pretty mediocre. Period.
I have to charge my HTC Desire at least once a day. Sure, it's likely a kernel issue with Android's lack of stamina on the X1, but please remember that Android isn't exactly known for great battery life. Here are some things you can do to enhance it, though:
How to Improve Battery Life on Android Phones
I guess it came my time to give up android on XPERIA completely. I sold my Xperia X1 to my friend. And im feeling somehow sad.
I have bougth myself HTC Leo HD2. Android works great. But somehow it was more special running semi-functional android on X1.
It felt like modifing WV Golf 2 for Formula 1 racing
XPERIA X1 is phone which you love and hate totally the same.
Even if i dont have any more X1 i will celebrate the day when Android will be fully funcional on X1 and i will still visit this forum.
Bye my friends.
Now battery is way more improved, but buttons bug appeared . It's actually funny. Before, when i showed android to my friend, i said: "i will quickly show you this because battery will expire in 3 minutes." Now i say "damn, buttons are not working again. Wait, i will reboot it"
ok it seems like that
Ok, I successfully rooted and installed other apps on my NC tonight. Thanks for the great directions! This really makes it a great option at $249 over something like the Galaxy Tab. It still of course has all the remnants of Barnes & Noble everywhere. What are the chances that we will eventually get a custom ROM or perhaps Cyanogenmod so we can truly have a generic Android tablet? I just don't know how much something like that would entail and wonder if anyone can provide a little more info.
Thanks!
I think we'll see some custom goodies, but with everything so early on, I expect it'll take a few weeks before we see the big stuff.
I'm willing to be patient, I'm rooted, and don't mind where I am now, considering the NC hasn't even been on shelves for 3 weeks yet.
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I think we'll see some custom goodies, but with everything so early on, I expect it'll take a few weeks before we see the big stuff.
I'm willing to be patient, I'm rooted, and don't mind where I am now, considering the NC hasn't even been on shelves for 3 weeks yet.
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lol not even 2 weeks..it came out the 19th
Oh I know it will take some time. It's pretty good like it is after rooting. I just wanted to know more about how feasible it is. Could there potentially be huge roadblocks?
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Oh I know it will take some time. It's pretty good like it is after rooting. I just wanted to know more about how feasible it is. Could there potentially be huge roadblocks?
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The only roadblock I can potentially forsee is B&N holding out on releasing the source for the NC.
I think it's hard to say without someone actually working on it. Also, we don't have many options for a factory reset now, so development can be kind of risky.
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The only roadblock I can potentially forsee is B&N holding out on releasing the source for the NC.
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yes, because the drivers and kernel are needed
bg
The drivers are out there, and look to be the same ones in use by other Cyanogen targets (the TI WAN chip is in the AOSP tree already, the PowerVR SGX chip is pretty common).
In fact the nook color looks a lot like a motorola droid, from a HW point of view, IIRC.
Thanks for the info. This all sounds like good news. Really looking forward to CM or some other AOSP-style ROM.
B&N has released the source and the developers kit. Start hacking!
No, it's not out yet-- but I do have it booting, and with working touchscreen support
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRlyMZzdT0
New video:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d4pZXyayts
That's about it right now.
Things left:
Mobile Voice
3G Data
4G Data / Voice
Audio
Front Camera
Back Camera
GPS
Bluetooth
Wifi
DSP support for video encode/decode
Vibrate/Notification LED
As I get things working, I'll update this list.
My first priority is wifi, then mobile voice, then 3g data, then vibrate/notification LED.
After that, I'll get GPS working (not hard) then rear camera.
Things that'll probably not happen in CM7 for a while:
Front camera
4G Voice
4G Data
Anything to do with 4G will be VERY tough, since I don't have LG's kernel sources, and I'm no RIL reverse engineer... Any help in this matter is appreciated!
You are the man!
Anxiously awaiting!
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Uh oh....deciding between 4G and CM7 is going to be rough.
Good work dasgewürfelte (thecubed in German haha)...thanks for everything
Anytime you need a tester Cubed, just let me know. My city is scheduled to get 4G this Thursday so I should be able to test that for you too, soon.
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No, it's not out yet-- but I do have it booting, and with working touchscreen support
That's about it right now.
Things left:
Mobile Voice
3G Data
4G Data / Voice
Audio
Front Camera
Back Camera
GPS
Bluetooth
Wifi
DSP support for video encode/decode
Vibrate/Notification LED
As I get things working, I'll update this list.
My first priority is wifi, then mobile voice, then 3g data, then vibrate/notification LED.
After that, I'll get GPS working (not hard) then rear camera.
Things that'll probably not happen in CM7 for a while:
Front camera
4G Voice
4G Data
Anything to do with 4G will be VERY tough, since I don't have LG's kernel sources, and I'm no RIL reverse engineer... Any help in this matter is appreciated!
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So, does the release of the kernel change your thoughts on 4G? What about the issues with 3G data lag? Not pressing, just curious. I know with the release of the kernel you aren't going to have a lot of time on your hands to get sidetracked
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So, does the release of the kernel change your thoughts on 4G? What about the issues with 3G data lag? Not pressing, just curious. I know with the release of the kernel you aren't going to have a lot of time on your hands to get sidetracked
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We were on IRC before when I posted that link. He said 4G data/voice shouldn't be a problem now.
The kernel gives the information on how to communicate with the radio
Pretty much, from what I understand, all of those "not for a while" items. Are now going to be in the first build of CM7 for the REVOLUTIOnnnnn-tionn-tion-tion
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We were on IRC before when I posted that link. He said 4G data/voice shouldn't be a problem now.
The kernel gives the information on how to communicate with the radio
Pretty much, from what I understand, all of those "not for a while" items. Are now going to be in the first build of CM7 for the REVOLUTIOnnnnn-tionn-tion-tion
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so did I miss LG releasing the kernal source.. or did we get it another way..?
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so just a few more clicks and I wouldn't have asked that question.. I am game try whatever you have available!
holy crap i just nutted.
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holy crap i just nutted.
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This.
Awesome!
Hey Thecubed, is there a particular reason you went with ADW Launcher as the... er... Launcher? What would keep you from using HeLauncher as the default? Any chance of getting a Samsung style launcher and icons?
And I think its almost been a week, and the phone is still running smooth. I did the stat bar cleaner, thanks MT. And the battery life is stellar.\
Thanks again. I am working overtime so I can get you a sizeable dony.
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We were on IRC before when I posted that link. He said 4G data/voice shouldn't be a problem now.
The kernel gives the information on how to communicate with the radio
Pretty much, from what I understand, all of those "not for a while" items. Are now going to be in the first build of CM7 for the REVOLUTIOnnnnn-tionn-tion-tion
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Very good to hear
Fixing 3G lag will be sooo nice.
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Hey Thecubed, is there a particular reason you went with ADW Launcher as the... er... Launcher? What would keep you from using HeLauncher as the default? Any chance of getting a Samsung style launcher and icons?
And I think its almost been a week, and the phone is still running smooth. I did the stat bar cleaner, thanks MT. And the battery life is stellar.\
Thanks again. I am working overtime so I can get you a sizeable dony.
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The kingpins of CM7 decided to use ADW.Launcher since its dev open-sourced the launcher. It makes customizations very easy to make. You can always pull it out with TB once you've got your launcher of choice up and running.
Cubed - I was so excited when I saw this thread pop up the other day. I have my Revolution coming in the mail hopefully sometime this afternoon, and I will definitely be on the IRC once it gets in. I won it in a contest, so I won't feel bad if I end up bricking it, especially because I have an upgrade in September.
And as soon as my finances allow, I will most certainly be submitting a donation. Thank you for your support!
I will say though, I just switched to this Fascinate I'm using currently a month ago, and our CM7 code finally got merged upstream, so I'm definitely gonna miss fully-functional GB, but I'm sure you'll have it running smoothly in no time!
Totally double-posting here, but I have my phone activated and running. 4G is friggin' SWEET!
Anywho, if you need any logcats or anything at all that's within my practical ability (I'm willing to flash just about anything since I didn't pay a dime for this phone, and can do any number of logcats/dmesg you need), just let me know. I'll pop onto the IRC from time to time just to check, but if you ever need someone in a hot moment, direct message me and I'll be glad help!
any chance we will see a alpha release to test out for you? would be ballin!
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The kingpins of CM7 decided to use ADW.Launcher since its dev open-sourced the launcher. It makes customizations very easy to make. You can always pull it out with TB once you've got your launcher of choice up and running.
Cubed - I was so excited when I saw this thread pop up the other day. I have my Revolution coming in the mail hopefully sometime this afternoon, and I will definitely be on the IRC once it gets in. I won it in a contest, so I won't feel bad if I end up bricking it, especially because I have an upgrade in September.
And as soon as my finances allow, I will most certainly be submitting a donation. Thank you for your support!
I will say though, I just switched to this Fascinate I'm using currently a month ago, and our CM7 code finally got merged upstream, so I'm definitely gonna miss fully-functional GB, but I'm sure you'll have it running smoothly in no time!
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I suspect another reason ADW was incorporated is because it's one of the only open source launchers. That comes without the possible legal ramifications of packaging someone elses work in your creation.
I also wouldn't mind being a testcase, if there is a use for another one.
Right now I'm reworking all the init scripts that LG has written and consolidating them into the cyanogenmod style of a single "init.bryce.rc" initscript.
As I'm doing that, I'm looking for referenced binaries and crossreferencing that list with the list of binaries that cyanogenmod builds (to see what binaries are LG-specific and what are stock Android). After I find the binaries, I am hexdumping each one to find out which libraries they import, and adding those to the cyanogenmod build directory also.
LG really really really needs to write better scripts. Their init process is all over the map, and half of the stuff in the init script isn't even for our device! It references dev platforms and other stuff that really should be trimmed before releasing to the public.
Anyway, in regards to testers, I actually have a device now (my very own device! but no service haha) so I'm able to do testing on my own for intermediate builds. When I release a milestone build (I'd consider wifi and 3d accelerator a milestone build) I'll release it via PM.
I don't want to make the test builds public because I worry that it'd cause problems with people not reading the "WARNING! THIS DOESNT WORK RIGHT!" and coming back saying they bricked their phones.
However, as soon as I have something to show, I'll make a video
Woohoo! That's exciting. I miss stable CM7 so much. It was flawlesson my trusty Incredible, just getting to stable on the Fascinate, and now being started from scratch here.
If you ever need any help, Cubed, I'm game. I would have no qualms with it. I'm available at nearly any moment and always have a computer nearby for logcats and d/kmesg dumps. Plus, I have full services 3/4G and wifi all around me at almost all times.
I'd love to be able to help the community out, even if it's only by flashing and giving error logs.
I noticed when peeking around in the system that things were a little messy too. The build.prop is kinda iffy and their lack of an organized boot animation is annoying. It's like being neat wasn't a concern at all. Seems like they were in a hurry.
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Woohoo! That's exciting. I miss stable CM7 so much. It was flawlesson my trusty Incredible, just getting to stable on the Fascinate, and now being started from scratch here.
If you ever need any help, Cubed, I'm game. I would have no qualms with it. I'm available at nearly any moment and always have a computer nearby for logcats and d/kmesg dumps. Plus, I have full services 3/4G and wifi all around me at almost all times.
I'd love to be able to help the community out, even if it's only by flashing and giving error logs.
I noticed when peeking around in the system that things were a little messy too. The build.prop is kinda iffy and their lack of an organized boot animation is annoying. It's like being neat wasn't a concern at all. Seems like they were in a hurry.
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I will need people to test the 3G/4G service once I get the radios initialized, since I only have the phone and no service
Right now I'm still sorting through the binaries and libraries trying to get at a bare minimum wifi and 3d acceleration working.
Okay so I plan on ordering a touchpad this week or so and I have some questions regarding the roms and their stability.
first of all, which roms do you reccomend and/or are the most stable?
Are there any roms in beta? the only one I know of is Miui
Is there a rom with microphone/camera support?
And finally, is an hp touchpad worth the upgrade from a Viewsonic Gtablet (if anyone else has used both and compared them)?
any help is appreciated :laugh:
Firstly, you probably should have taken a moment to do a search - almost all of your questions have been asked many times before. However, to save you from the flame-bait and others who'll consider you a troll, I'll try and help you out a bit.
So, to answer your first question, the most stable would probably be the official CM9 Nightlies. To the best of my (personal and limited) knowledge, none have been promoted to official "beta" status, but then again, we went from an unofficial Alpha to Alpha2, to the nightlies. So that's probably your best bet for stability. I know from personal, anecdotal experience, that I haven't had a crash on my TP in weeks, and I would call it definitely stable. But that's just me.
Microphone support has been added into the repository, but the camera isn't as of yet. Which honestly doesn't bother too many people, unless they need to video chat. And if they need that, the nice thing about the TP is in about 5 minutes you can have it rebooted into WebOS, which has Skype native support, and you can chat from there. Then, do a quick reboot (about 2 mins or less), and you're back in Android.
As for the upgrade from the GTablet, I couldn't tell you. I know that I really enjoy my TP, and I like the way it looks and handles better than my father's Galaxy Tab 10.1, but that's just me. For the 200 bucks I paid for mine (including shipping to Canada), I can't say anything bad about it. It gets used daily, flashed daily, and it works like a hot damn all of the time. So yes, I suggest you get one, because it's an amazing piece of technology, AND it's in the process of getting an upgrade to Jellybean, so that's another plus in it's books (that a lot of other devices don't have yet).
I would suggest you get one also. But I would view eBay for about a week or two. Usually you can find
Someone selling a 32 GB cheaper or around the price of a 16gb every once in a while. Got my 32gb 180 even and no shipping cost. Great deal! These things are amazing for the Price
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Nightlies. That is all.
Ve6ay how nice to see a positive polite reply.
I have the same setup as you and couldn't have put it better.
Head over to the main G4 development page if you are interested in this for the H811/H815.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/h811-h815-blisspop-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3185593
There's still a long way to go. Most things are still broken and new builds will generally break things on a regular basis. Just be aware before heading over. The post doesn't need more Posts saying goodbye this/that isn't working, it's still very much a WIP.
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IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
There's still a long way to go. Most things are still broken and new builds will generally break things on a regular basis. Just be aware before heading over. The post doesn't need more Posts saying goodbye this/that isn't working, it's still very much a WIP.
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True, and the OP doesn't have the most recent build where most stuff is actually working. I'm running the 10/15 build (page 76-78...somewhere in there, posted by codeworkx) and most of my audio is working. Haven't tried bluetooth, but I rarely use it, apparently voice calls have an echo, but I never call anyone, either. The only thing I really use that has an issue is the camera that delays on opening, but I'm sure that'll be worked out shortly. As soon as codeworkx got to work on it, it's honestly been pretty stable for a WIP, but I think I have a higher tolerance for broken builds and features, having been a crackflasher for 7 years now. I'm just happy to be back on AOSP/CM at this point with this phone.
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True, and the OP doesn't have the most recent build where most stuff is actually working. I'm running the 10/15 build (page 76-78...somewhere in there, posted by codeworkx) and most of my audio is working. Haven't tried bluetooth, but I rarely use it, apparently voice calls have an echo, but I never call anyone, either. The only thing I really use that has an issue is the camera that delays on opening, but I'm sure that'll be worked out shortly. As soon as codeworkx got to work on it, it's honestly been pretty stable for a WIP, but I think I have a higher tolerance for broken builds and features, having been a crackflasher for 7 years now. I'm just happy to be back on AOSP/CM at this point with this phone.
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I hope nobody thought I was saying it is ready for prime time! Just a heads up. I have not installed it yet as I will wait for a more highly functioning build, but I also know there is a thirst for development here, so I wanted to share the good news!!
Honestly, if you were to try the 10/15 build, you'd be surprised at how "ready from prime time" it actually is. I've been using it as my DD for the last 2 days and it's actually been pretty nice. Couple small things here and there, but the only thing that's affected me at all so far was the camera delay. Now that there's at least a dev or two that seems like they know what they're doing, I'm hoping development for AOSP/CM stuff starts picking up. The little time that codeworkx has put in so far has been looking extremely promising. (Not to take away from the OP on that, but code made it so that I can actually use it as a DD with sound.)
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Honestly, if you were to try the 10/15 build, you'd be surprised at how "ready from prime time" it actually is. I've been using it as my DD for the last 2 days and it's actually been pretty nice. Couple small things here and there, but the only thing that's affected me at all so far was the camera delay. Now that there's at least a dev or two that seems like they know what they're doing, I'm hoping development for AOSP/CM stuff starts picking up. The little time that codeworkx has put in so far has been looking extremely promising. (Not to take away from the OP on that, but code made it so that I can actually use it as a DD with sound.)
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Hmmm, I didn't realize it was that far along. Between the 815 talk there, it has become tough to follow. I may give it a go. I assumed you did a complete wipe before installing? Thanks, @schreckles
EDIT: You don't use bluetooth I see, and I do quite a bit. From what I understand, that doesn't work, so that's a non-starter for me. Guess I'll wait.
ShermCraig said:
Hmmm, I didn't realize it was that far along. Between the 815 talk there, it has become tough to follow. I may give it a go. I assumed you did a complete wipe before installing? Thanks, @schreckles
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Yup, sure did. Full wipe (especially when switching back and forth between CM/AOSP and stock roms) and then flashed the 10/15 H811 build that codeworkx posted the other day, along with the nano gapps he'd suggested.
Small issues: Your LED will stay lit up blue until you plug the phone in and unplug again. No biggie. No "OK Google" or anything that requires the phone mic for me thus far (ie Google Sound Search.) Camera takes approximately 4 years to open, but it does open, and the shots it produces aren't bad. They aren't as good as stock, but that's typically been the trade-off even since back in my OG Droid days when going from stock to non-stock base. Call audio, bluetooth, and NFC apparently have some issues still, but I rarely use any of those, so meh. Oh, and I get a popup stating "Settings has closed" every so often, but it doesn't affect anything. I'm sure I could find the cause if I was motivated, but I'm sure it'll get worked out soon enough.
...Mostly just stuff I can live without for now that's broken. I've even been using Xposed and some of my favorite modules without any ill effects.
So is it more or less a theme now or what? I know what CM is, but as far as functionality, is it quite a bit faster than stock or what?
Thanks!
I am assuming that this is the only public aosp build for the G4?
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So is it more or less a theme now or what? I know what CM is, but as far as functionality, is it quite a bit faster than stock or what?
Thanks!
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It's a completely different build of Android using different frameworks and whatnot. It's built upon AOSP and tweaked framework to make it CyanogenMod. I'm not sure if the one I am using currently is the one in this thread but so far it's been pretty smooth. There are definitely some issues but it's a lot further along than I though it would be. Kudos to those guys!
EDIT: That is the same build I am using (in case anyone is wondering).