Hi there, just though i post this to clear some of the current query i have about rooting XZ.
Please let me know if these are correct:
Up till today, the latest rooting on XZ still implicate the following concerns:
1. DRM keys WILL be lost forever
e.g. no more Music ID/Gracenote within the Walkman app plus probably most importantly, as asked all the time and all over the place in the T/mint forums: loss of Bravia Engine.
2. older Xperia devices sometimes got issues after unlock of bootloader (BRICK after FOTA update)
My questions regarding the 2 points:
1. will there be a method coming later (from the old xperia rooting trend), that will retain the DRM key/Bravia Engine?
2. What were the chances of bricking the older Xperia handsets in the past????
was this mainly caused usually by the earlier version of rooting method?
aliguu said:
Hi there, just though i post this to clear some of the current query i have about rooting XZ.
My questions regarding the 2 points:
1. will there be a method coming later (from the old xperia rooting trend), that will retain the DRM key/Bravia Engine?
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Maybe someone is working on it right now. But you'll just have to wait and see. Can't look into the future.
aliguu said:
Hi there, just though i post this to clear some of the current query i have about rooting XZ.
Please let me know if these are correct:
Up till today, the latest rooting on XZ still implicate the following concerns:
1. DRM keys WILL be lost forever
e.g. no more Music ID/Gracenote within the Walkman app plus probably most importantly, as asked all the time and all over the place in the T/mint forums: loss of Bravia Engine.
2. older Xperia devices sometimes got issues after unlock of bootloader (BRICK after FOTA update)
My questions regarding the 2 points:
1. will there be a method coming later (from the old xperia rooting trend), that will retain the DRM key/Bravia Engine?
2. What were the chances of bricking the older Xperia handsets in the past????
was this mainly caused usually by the earlier version of rooting method?
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Dude...you lose the DRM Keys if you unlock your bootloader...read the posts and threads more careful...
well.. to gain full root access, atm unlock the bootloader is a must right???
Or are u saying now that i can
-just root
-without unlock bootloader?
tbh i just want to have root access for titanium, so if this is available then i'll do it!
i just thought unlocking the bootloader is a must for full root at this stage..
You can't root without unlocking the bootloader. Unlocking bootloader will result in losing DRM Keys. Simple
you can wait till a dev make a root without the need of unlocking the bootloder...which is secretly being done by some awesome devs ) patience my friend )
Hope that will be soon
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That's better! Finally confirmed my queries. Thanks guys.
Guess everyone's waiting for it
I recently updated my xperia zr into 4.4.4 kitkat via flashtool.now my phone don't have root permission.I can't root my phone using towelroot.it's useless now but I really need root access to move apps to sd card.is there anyone here who know how to root 4.4.4 kitkat updated phone.
(sorry for poor English)
soma cruz said:
I recently updated my xperia zr into 4.4.4 kitkat via flashtool.now my phone don't have root permission.I can't root my phone using towelroot.it's useless now but I really need root access to move apps to sd card.is there anyone here who know how to root 4.4.4 kitkat updated phone.
(sorry for poor English)
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Dear soma,
Rooting 4.4.4 build IS A VERY POPULAR question and is being answered over half a hundred times, to be honest. So don't be a noob and SEARCH B4 YOU ASK!!
But then you asked, I being a nice guy and former noob myself, i will try to answer this.
Follow this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/general/guide-how-to-root-10-5-1-0-283-t2872873
All credits go to kingvotex.
For something to flash on your device, look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-zr/general/guide-how-to-root-10-5-1-0-283-t2873841
All credits go to Jamal RS.
How to rooting 4.4.4 is now among the popular search question.
ujangns said:
How to rooting 4.4.4 is now among the popular search question.
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Thanks mate.
paulson881 said:
Dear soma,
Rooting 4.4.4 build IS A VERY POPULAR question and is being answered over half a hundred times, to be honest. So don't be a noob and SEARCH B4 YOU ASK!!
But then you asked, I being a nice guy and former noob myself, i will try to answer this.
Follow this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/general/guide-how-to-root-10-5-1-0-283-t2872873
All credits go to kingvotex.
For something to flash on your device, look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-zr/general/guide-how-to-root-10-5-1-0-283-t2873841
All credits go to Jamal RS.
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It worked!thanks a lot
soma cruz said:
It worked!thanks a lot
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I am glad you made it, hopefully you have learnt something technically and behaviorally.
OK enough of this forum rule. This link below might help you through your learning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
Although this is for Xperia Z2, most of it will apply to XZR. Read especially the Q&A section. It is hard to find something so easy and plain.
:good::good:Good Luck:good::good:
paulson881 said:
I am glad you made it, hopefully you have learnt something technically and behaviorally.
OK enough of this forum rule. This link below might help you through your learning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
Although this is for Xperia Z2, most of it will apply to XZR. Read especially the Q&A section. It is hard to find something so easy and plain.
:good::good:Good Luck:good::good:
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Thank you it's really a helpful post for me.but now I'm looking for app2sd solution.I can move obb file by using folder mount but I can't move apps data.I have tried sd card partition and many other apps but those are useless.can you help me?
soma cruz said:
Thank you it's really a helpful post for me.but now I'm looking for app2sd solution.I can move obb file by using folder mount but I can't move apps data.I have tried sd card partition and many other apps but those are useless.can you help me?
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I believe there exist something that can solve your problem on certain Xposed module. I don't know which but can you look more in this field?
paulson881 said:
I believe there exist something that can solve your problem on certain Xposed module. I don't know which but can you look more in this field?
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I searched so many time but I didn't find proper results.I asked help in xda developer forum and many of xda developers user tried to help me but their's suggestions didn't help me so much.
soma cruz said:
I searched so many time but I didn't find proper results.I asked help in xda developer forum and many of xda developers user tried to help me but their's suggestions didn't help me so much.
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Perhaps you could read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2309028&page=30
It seems to me that this is a limitation on Sony flagships. In that case only Sony can fix it. It had done so with mid-range t2 ultra I suppose.
paulson881 said:
Perhaps you could read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2309028&page=30
It seems to me that this is a limitation on Sony flagships. In that case only Sony can fix it. It had done so with mid-range t2 ultra I suppose.
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They did that to sell their t2 ultra more than any other mid range devices.it's a good plan that consumers will buy it for its app2sd function without rooting it.though it's a good mid range phone(maybe).I thought they would also bring app2sd option for Xperia zr but they didn'tI'm now curious about Android L.will sony bring this update to their old xperia z series devices?cyanogenmod didn't yet port the android l update for Xperia z,zl or zr.I like android l's material design.really attracting design!don't you think?
soma cruz said:
They did that to sell their t2 ultra more than any other mid range devices.it's a good plan that consumers will buy it for its app2sd function without rooting it.though it's a good mid range phone(maybe).I thought they would also bring app2sd option for Xperia zr but they didn'tI'm now curious about Android L.will sony bring this update to their old xperia z series devices?cyanogenmod didn't yet port the android l update for Xperia z,zl or zr.I like android l's material design.really attracting design!don't you think?
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Unless you want L for its API and added new features, if you only want L written in settings and material design user interface, then you can easily do it on 4.4, with modified systemui.apk, build.prop, a proper launcher, and a theme engine
paulson881 said:
Unless you want L for its API and added new features, if you only want L written in settings and material design user interface, then you can easily do it on 4.4, with modified systemui.apk, build.prop, a proper launcher, and a theme engine
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Actually I want to test the real android l.oh and thanks again,I'm getting so much information from you.
@Mods please sticky
Hi all, Welcome to the Z3 Compact Help Thread.
Introduction
Many thanks to @kgs1992 for the thread base.
Feel free to post any suggestions for optimising the thread here.
General Information for Newbie's
New to XDA? Read this thread for general information.
Also read this thread on how to search on XDA.
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How to contribute and behave in this thread
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Useful threads which cover the Xperia basics
General Information
General Knowledge about Xperia Phones (some how-to's about the basics)
This was intended for the Xperia Z but covers most things for all current Xperia Phones.
Flashtool for Xperia devices
Flashtool is a Multi-Tool by @Androxyde and @DooMLoRD which is primarily used for flashing Firmware to your device, but includes a whole bunch more neat things.
It doesn't support the Z3 Series yet, but will surely do in near future.
You can download it and get more information on the official website.
How to use Flashtool
You can find a full tutorial on how to use Flashtool here.
How to unlock the bootloader on the Z3c
Find the full guide here.
How to resurrect a soft-bricked phone
Follow the FlashTool tutorial to reset your device to stock.
Xperia Phones and custom recoveries
For those new to the Xperia line
Xperia Phones don't have a dedicated recovery partition, the recovery is stored in the ramdisk.
It's impossible to flash recovery images via fastboot on stock rom, the recovery needs an extra kernel including ramdisk modifications.
I have a question for anyone who has been familiar with the Xperia world for a while. With the released of the previous couple generations(Z1/Z1C/Z2), how long after the phone was released was a root method available?
mattdm said:
I have a question for anyone who has been familiar with the Xperia world for a while. With the released of the previous couple generations(Z1/Z1C/Z2), how long after the phone was released was a root method available?
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This greatly differs.
On the Xperia Z there quickly was an exploit,
on the latest (Z1, Z2) there was a long time (some months) no rooting method.
Sonys on 4.4 + are hard to root with a locked bootloader.
However this may or may not change. with upcoming Z3 series.
Tommy-Geenexus said:
This greatly differs.
On the Xperia Z there quickly was an exploit,
on the latest (Z1, Z2) there was a long time (some months) no rooting method.
Sonys on 4.4 + are hard to root with a locked bootloader.
However this may or may not change. with upcoming Z3 series.
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For real? I've always heard Sony phones (and Sony in general) are very open to rooting and the open source community. They're international phones after all, with unlockable bootloaders...
mattdm said:
For real? I've always heard Sony phones (and Sony in general) are very open to rooting and the open source community. They're international phones after all, with unlockable bootloaders...
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Sony is contributing to the open source community, and is actively helping devs, right.
If you'll unlock the bootloader, rooting will be no problem if there's an advanced kernel with recovery available.
Locked bootloader phones are a pain to root, but i'm sure some devs will gain root, even though it may take a while.
Tommy-Geenexus said:
Sony is contributing to the open source community, and is actively helping devs, right.
If you'll unlock the bootloader, rooting will be no problem if there's an advanced kernel with recovery available.
Locked bootloader phones are a pain to root, but i'm sure some devs will gain root, even though it may take a while.
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So if I'm willing to unlock my bootloader...then root will be attainable almost immediately?
mattdm said:
So if I'm willing to unlock my bootloader...then root will be attainable almost immediately?
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Pretty much yup and you'll also be able to use other kernels.
I know it might be a bit too early, but with respect to rooting, recoveries and custom ROMs, are there any difference between the two hardware versions for the Z3C?
Is it safe to assume that custom ROMs for the D5803 can be used on the D5833 and vice versa? I would assume the bootloaders and recovery would be the same, it's only the Radios being different?
endlesstrail said:
I know it might be a bit too early, but with respect to rooting, recoveries and custom ROMs, are there any difference between the two hardware versions for the Z3C?
Is it safe to assume that custom ROMs for the D5803 can be used on the D5833 and vice versa? I would assume the bootloaders and recovery would be the same, it's only the Radios being different?
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Same question
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endlesstrail said:
I know it might be a bit too early, but with respect to rooting, recoveries and custom ROMs, are there any difference between the two hardware versions for the Z3C?
Is it safe to assume that custom ROMs for the D5803 can be used on the D5833 and vice versa? I would assume the bootloaders and recovery would be the same, it's only the Radios being different?
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Dr AM said:
Same question
Sent from my GT-I9100 - CM11
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It will most likely work, it did work on the Xperia Z C6602/6603 too.
I've added a link to unlock the bootloader for those who are interested in unlocking.
I assume, from reading threads on the Z1/Z2 models, that we will have to wait for a way to root without unlocking the bootloader before we are able to back up the TA partition, right? I would like not to lose the extra functionality, particularly for the camera, that the TA partition reportedly provides.
Is the move apps to SD option under the storage settings? I know they added it to the Z2.
Thanks in advance
maven1975 said:
Is the move apps to SD option under the storage settings? I know they added it to the Z2.
Thanks in advance
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Are you really sure about that? Can't check it for the Z2 is with my son now, but I have not seen it and honestly doubt it is there. Anyhow, the Z3C does (currently) not have App2SD.
Just unlocked the bootloader on my Z3 Compact yesterday. As near as I can tell, everything of importance continues to work: X-Reality still works, TouchID works (and even got an update), and the BIONZ engine appears to be working, as I managed to take an photography at ISO 12800 sensitivity.
I'm not exactly sure what is supposed to break upon unlocking the bootloader, but I'm certainly not suffering any consequences of it.
marumari said:
Just unlocked the bootloader on my Z3 Compact yesterday. As near as I can tell, everything of importance continues to work: X-Reality still works, TouchID works (and even got an update), and the BIONZ engine appears to be working, as I managed to take an photography at ISO 12800 sensitivity.
I'm not exactly sure what is supposed to break upon unlocking the bootloader, but I'm certainly not suffering any consequences of it.
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X-Reality was broken on pre-4.4 firmwares, but not any more on 4.4+.
Tommy-Geenexus said:
X-Reality was broken on pre-4.4 firmwares, but not any more on 4.4+.
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What is affected in 4.4+ by losing the TA partition?
Roundabouts said:
What is affected in 4.4+ by losing the TA partition?
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Can't say as my Z3c hasn't arrived yet.
Most likely nothing, maybe bionz image processing, but that's highly unlikely.
Hello,
I would like to know Xperia Z1 and Z1s development is same or different? I have not found forum here for Z1s..
I would like to go with cyanogen etc with my Z1s but i have no idea cyanogen honami will work in it or not please explain.
efuzone said:
Hello,
I would like to know Xperia Z1 and Z1s development is same or different? I have not found forum here for Z1s..
I would like to go with cyanogen etc with my Z1s but i have no idea cyanogen honami will work in it or not please explain.
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What is your model number? Like for example mine is C6903
they are different i think.