[Q] Rooting Xperia Z - 8/3/2013 - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there, just though i post this to clear some of the current query i have about rooting XZ.
Please let me know if these are correct:
Up till today, the latest rooting on XZ still implicate the following concerns:
1. DRM keys WILL be lost forever
e.g. no more Music ID/Gracenote within the Walkman app plus probably most importantly, as asked all the time and all over the place in the T/mint forums: loss of Bravia Engine.
2. older Xperia devices sometimes got issues after unlock of bootloader (BRICK after FOTA update)
My questions regarding the 2 points:
1. will there be a method coming later (from the old xperia rooting trend), that will retain the DRM key/Bravia Engine?
2. What were the chances of bricking the older Xperia handsets in the past????
was this mainly caused usually by the earlier version of rooting method?

aliguu said:
Hi there, just though i post this to clear some of the current query i have about rooting XZ.
My questions regarding the 2 points:
1. will there be a method coming later (from the old xperia rooting trend), that will retain the DRM key/Bravia Engine?
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Maybe someone is working on it right now. But you'll just have to wait and see. Can't look into the future.

aliguu said:
Hi there, just though i post this to clear some of the current query i have about rooting XZ.
Please let me know if these are correct:
Up till today, the latest rooting on XZ still implicate the following concerns:
1. DRM keys WILL be lost forever
e.g. no more Music ID/Gracenote within the Walkman app plus probably most importantly, as asked all the time and all over the place in the T/mint forums: loss of Bravia Engine.
2. older Xperia devices sometimes got issues after unlock of bootloader (BRICK after FOTA update)
My questions regarding the 2 points:
1. will there be a method coming later (from the old xperia rooting trend), that will retain the DRM key/Bravia Engine?
2. What were the chances of bricking the older Xperia handsets in the past????
was this mainly caused usually by the earlier version of rooting method?
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Dude...you lose the DRM Keys if you unlock your bootloader...read the posts and threads more careful...

well.. to gain full root access, atm unlock the bootloader is a must right???
Or are u saying now that i can
-just root
-without unlock bootloader?
tbh i just want to have root access for titanium, so if this is available then i'll do it!
i just thought unlocking the bootloader is a must for full root at this stage..

You can't root without unlocking the bootloader. Unlocking bootloader will result in losing DRM Keys. Simple

you can wait till a dev make a root without the need of unlocking the bootloder...which is secretly being done by some awesome devs ) patience my friend )

Hope that will be soon
Sent from my C6603 using xda app-developers app

That's better! Finally confirmed my queries. Thanks guys.
Guess everyone's waiting for it

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Xperia Rooting & Rom Flashing help

Hey,
Quick bit of advise needed - after reading various posts about rooting and unlocking the bootloader on the Xperia Z my head is not hurting..can I ask what I will lose if I unlock the bootloader using sonys method (bravia 2 engine etc) as I want to try out some roms however still have the safety net of being able to re-flash the stock rom should all go pear shaped.
I have the Android ADT developers bundle on my PC, the fast boot driver installed and my Xperia Z rooted using one of the all in one tools which was downloaded from this site yesterday.
I guess I am trying to see how easy it would be to take everything back to stock with all features working should the flashing of roms not work.
Cheers
Scott
This is not the forum to ask for help.Kindly use the search option or post your query in Q&A.Your thread will be closed shortly.
sdhanush1 said:
This is not the forum to ask for help.Kindly use the search option or post your query in Q&A.Your thread will be closed shortly.
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thanks - the search blew my mind as there were so many different opinions and I wanted to get an expert answer.
never mind
Unlocking the bootloader wipes all of your data (it's a safety procedure), as you already know you lose the BE, you can also lose warranty.
If you mess up your phone, in almost all cases, you can use the Sony Flash Tool (Google it) to restore it to the stock ROM.
Hope I helped! ;D
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I have a question for anyone who has been familiar with the Xperia world for a while. With the released of the previous couple generations(Z1/Z1C/Z2), how long after the phone was released was a root method available?
mattdm said:
I have a question for anyone who has been familiar with the Xperia world for a while. With the released of the previous couple generations(Z1/Z1C/Z2), how long after the phone was released was a root method available?
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This greatly differs.
On the Xperia Z there quickly was an exploit,
on the latest (Z1, Z2) there was a long time (some months) no rooting method.
Sonys on 4.4 + are hard to root with a locked bootloader.
However this may or may not change. with upcoming Z3 series.
Tommy-Geenexus said:
This greatly differs.
On the Xperia Z there quickly was an exploit,
on the latest (Z1, Z2) there was a long time (some months) no rooting method.
Sonys on 4.4 + are hard to root with a locked bootloader.
However this may or may not change. with upcoming Z3 series.
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For real? I've always heard Sony phones (and Sony in general) are very open to rooting and the open source community. They're international phones after all, with unlockable bootloaders...
mattdm said:
For real? I've always heard Sony phones (and Sony in general) are very open to rooting and the open source community. They're international phones after all, with unlockable bootloaders...
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Sony is contributing to the open source community, and is actively helping devs, right.
If you'll unlock the bootloader, rooting will be no problem if there's an advanced kernel with recovery available.
Locked bootloader phones are a pain to root, but i'm sure some devs will gain root, even though it may take a while.
Tommy-Geenexus said:
Sony is contributing to the open source community, and is actively helping devs, right.
If you'll unlock the bootloader, rooting will be no problem if there's an advanced kernel with recovery available.
Locked bootloader phones are a pain to root, but i'm sure some devs will gain root, even though it may take a while.
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So if I'm willing to unlock my bootloader...then root will be attainable almost immediately?
mattdm said:
So if I'm willing to unlock my bootloader...then root will be attainable almost immediately?
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Pretty much yup and you'll also be able to use other kernels.
I know it might be a bit too early, but with respect to rooting, recoveries and custom ROMs, are there any difference between the two hardware versions for the Z3C?
Is it safe to assume that custom ROMs for the D5803 can be used on the D5833 and vice versa? I would assume the bootloaders and recovery would be the same, it's only the Radios being different?
endlesstrail said:
I know it might be a bit too early, but with respect to rooting, recoveries and custom ROMs, are there any difference between the two hardware versions for the Z3C?
Is it safe to assume that custom ROMs for the D5803 can be used on the D5833 and vice versa? I would assume the bootloaders and recovery would be the same, it's only the Radios being different?
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Same question
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endlesstrail said:
I know it might be a bit too early, but with respect to rooting, recoveries and custom ROMs, are there any difference between the two hardware versions for the Z3C?
Is it safe to assume that custom ROMs for the D5803 can be used on the D5833 and vice versa? I would assume the bootloaders and recovery would be the same, it's only the Radios being different?
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Dr AM said:
Same question
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It will most likely work, it did work on the Xperia Z C6602/6603 too.
I've added a link to unlock the bootloader for those who are interested in unlocking.
I assume, from reading threads on the Z1/Z2 models, that we will have to wait for a way to root without unlocking the bootloader before we are able to back up the TA partition, right? I would like not to lose the extra functionality, particularly for the camera, that the TA partition reportedly provides.
Is the move apps to SD option under the storage settings? I know they added it to the Z2.
Thanks in advance
maven1975 said:
Is the move apps to SD option under the storage settings? I know they added it to the Z2.
Thanks in advance
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Are you really sure about that? Can't check it for the Z2 is with my son now, but I have not seen it and honestly doubt it is there. Anyhow, the Z3C does (currently) not have App2SD.
Just unlocked the bootloader on my Z3 Compact yesterday. As near as I can tell, everything of importance continues to work: X-Reality still works, TouchID works (and even got an update), and the BIONZ engine appears to be working, as I managed to take an photography at ISO 12800 sensitivity.
I'm not exactly sure what is supposed to break upon unlocking the bootloader, but I'm certainly not suffering any consequences of it.
marumari said:
Just unlocked the bootloader on my Z3 Compact yesterday. As near as I can tell, everything of importance continues to work: X-Reality still works, TouchID works (and even got an update), and the BIONZ engine appears to be working, as I managed to take an photography at ISO 12800 sensitivity.
I'm not exactly sure what is supposed to break upon unlocking the bootloader, but I'm certainly not suffering any consequences of it.
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X-Reality was broken on pre-4.4 firmwares, but not any more on 4.4+.
Tommy-Geenexus said:
X-Reality was broken on pre-4.4 firmwares, but not any more on 4.4+.
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What is affected in 4.4+ by losing the TA partition?
Roundabouts said:
What is affected in 4.4+ by losing the TA partition?
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Can't say as my Z3c hasn't arrived yet.
Most likely nothing, maybe bionz image processing, but that's highly unlikely.

Root with locked bootloader

Hi guys!
I have the x3 compact since 3. October and i'm thinking about rooting it.. I have experience with the arc s and i dont want to unlock the bootloader because the z3 compact will get lots of updates for sure and then i can flash almost every rom with locked bootloader..
Is there any method now to root it or no way at the moment?
Thank ya anyways,
Yours slimy!
slimy44 said:
Hi guys!
I have the x3 compact since 3. October and i'm thinking about rooting it.. I have experience with the arc s and i dont want to unlock the bootloader because the z3 compact will get lots of updates for sure and then i can flash almost every rom with locked bootloader..
Is there any method now to root it or no way at the moment?
Thank ya anyways,
Yours slimy!
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Wrong forum and answered like 50 times. I could answer it I suppose, but do a search.
Come on.. I thought an exploit had been found. See former post and use a "?"
Please post questions in the Q&A section
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[Q] how to root xperia zr ???

HI im using sony xperia zr with android kitkat
first
i want to root it without unlocking bootloader
second
if i rooted the device am i able to download any new updates like <Android Lollipop and other official Sony services like Track ID etc
third
how to un root it ????
PluTO_o said:
HI im using sony xperia zr with android kitkat
first
i want to root it without unlocking bootloader
second
if i rooted the device am i able to download any new updates like <Android Lollipop and other official Sony services like Track ID etc
third
how to un root it ????
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research before posting same questions again and again.
This questions has been asked multiple times and answered also.
So dont wait for spoon feeding
of course i searched before i post the questions
but i didnt find any thing helpful

Twrp flash and root in locked bootloader

y, 05:30 PM |#191
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Hi,
Could anyone help me out in flashing twrp on my sony xperia z3 compact d5833.
Also I don't want to unlock bootloader with official key, which void my warranty.
I just need my xperia to be rooted with twrp recovery . If unlocking bootloader without getting key from sony website is there I will love to unlock that.
Please help me guys.
Thanks
Hi,
there is a guide in the general forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/guide-newbshow-to-291-mm-z3clocked-t3536395
greetings
Andi
Better use this...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/recovery-root-mm-575-lb-t3418714
@fluffi444
Why?
Much shorter and easy to handle. I know that your link is actually the same procedure. But I would prefer to link the original post from dev who invented this.
Ah okay thank you since i´m new to the z3c (my G4 & S4 died a few weeks ago), i´m also learning. Yet my z3c is locked and without root, but i think i will change this in the next few days
Keep it locked until you saved your TA partition.

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