I'm interested to buy a Moto G LTE XT1072 as a replacement of a Galaxy Nexus.
What's the current status of:
- custom kernel? Can I find an equivalent of Franko Kernel, Fancy Kernel or ElementalX for this device?
- custom ROMs? I'm interested in vanilla AOSP ROMs. Current projects are 100% working? There's some missing HW functionality?
- Is it developer friendly in order to hack it like a Nexus phone?
- Xposed Framework: someone has experience in use of superalpha Xposed framework on ART 5.1.1?
The biggest cons of GNex are battery time and speaker volume. Can I expect with XT1072 an improvement?
To begin, some clarifications :
XT1072 = Moto G 2nd Gen (2014) LTE
XT106X = Moto G 2nd Gen (2014) 3g+
1) 2) Some users flashed roms designed for 3g+ variants on the 4g one and reported that it worked (without 4g obviously) and with speakers bug.
So you can find roms designed for the 4G variant on this forum. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-lte)
And roms designed for the 3g+ variants here http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014
Most roms are fully working without any HW problem.
3) I think installing custom roms, unlocking bootloader, rooting, installing TWRP.. is like on Nexus phones. It is user friendly.
4) This isn't device specific, you can find your answer in the Xposed's official development thread. But I think everything works.
5) The speakers are good and battery life is enough for me but I don't own the GNex so I can't compare.
I think the best you can do is to buy the 3rd Gen Moto G which was just released.
If you want some clarifications, comment !
Just to be clear, there are currently no kernels for this version?
This version = XT1078 dual sim variant (2014 LTE).
There are 2 kernels if I remembrer :
- Stock Motorola's
- Spirit Kernel : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-lte/development/kernel-spirit-kernel-r1-t3109319
Do you know how did people flash the Titan roms on Thea? I always get an icompatibility error.
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Not wanting to hijack the other XT1072 thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/screen-rotation-issues-moto-g-xt1072-t3066532 and with many Moto G variants now out there I wonder what the thinking is re this new phone (4G, 5", UK) and the use of CM12. I would assume this phone's ROM is a mix of the 1st Gen 4G phone (perhaps the same radio) and the 2nd Gen 3G (screen). With CM12 compiled specifically for devices I have not dared flash one and am running rooted stock which, to be fair, is fine. Would a unified ROM be 4G and 5" compatible? Is it a matter of waiting for a device specific CM or could I flash an existing one?
EDIT: I notice that XT1063 to XT1069 on the unified roms are all the 2nd Gen 3G.
Thanks for any help.
Moto G 2015 4G has Snapdragon 400 MSM8926 whereas Moto G 2014 3G has Snapdragon 400 MSM8226.
ROMS for XT1063 to XT1069 are based on MSM8226 sources. You cannot flash those ROMs on your Moto G 2015 4G.
CM12 for your device has to be compiled using MSM8926 sources and MSM8926 device tree.
SharkcpN said:
Moto G 2015 4G has Snapdragon 400 MSM8926 whereas Moto G 2014 3G has Snapdragon 400 MSM8226.
ROMS for XT1063 to XT1069 are based on MSM8226 sources. You cannot flash those ROMs on your Moto G 2015 4G.
CM12 for your device has to be compiled using MSM8926 sources and MSM8926 device tree.
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my XT1072 says it has a MSM8926 and a 48.1D bootloader
cant install CM 12.1 on it as the bootloader is wrong and dunno where to find a bootloader that is compatible with CM 12.1, should be a 4882/83 or 86 to work with flashing CM12.1
any ideas?
pagu0191 said:
my XT1072 says it has a MSM8926 and a 48.1D bootloader
cant install CM 12.1 on it as the bootloader is wrong and dunno where to find a bootloader that is compatible with CM 12.1, should be a 4882/83 or 86 to work with flashing CM12.1
any ideas?
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Flash proper TWRP and CM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2015/orig-development
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Flash proper TWRP and CM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2015/orig-development
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any idea if there is a stock kitkat rom available somewhere to re-flash it?
after the lollippop upgrade, my xt1072 started suttering on the bluetooth, and it s pretty annoying, specially as it was working fine in kitkat ...
I rooted my unlocked the bootloader/rooted my phone back in April but I'm looking to try a ROM for the first time. I've been looking around but I wanted to see what people here are using.
Basically what I'm hoping for in the rom
Moto display (if possible)
xposed compatible
no major bugs
better battery life/stable
Stock KitKat it is.
I am currently using the Cyanogenmod 12.1 and it's running fine with no major bugs. It has moto display, I have successfully installed xposed but I have no use for it, also the battery life running the latest nightly is quite poor imo. Would recommend using it though.
here's the link to that : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-moto-x-t2995381
Correct me if I am wrong, but with out unlocked bootloader, a dev could make a sense rom if there was enough kind requests?
While the unlocked bootloader makes it possible, that doesn't mean it will happen. Most developers don't make ROMs because its requested, but because they enjoy doing so and giving to the community. We could all band together and request a billion dollars from the bank but that's not gonna make them give it to us.
Unfortunately, those of us with a quark phone with a passion for modding and flashing is small. That's why we don't ha e a community with tons of ROMs like Nexus and other flagship devices.
But what we do have is a top of the line phone with some DEV love that is truely appreciated by those of us that use it and take pride in having a special unique phone.
However. There is an Xposed add-on that will allow you to flash sense apps, and with some theming and tweaks you can make CM almost look and function exactly like sense
What he said. Due to Verizon locking down the bootloader, which took about a year to overcome, the Droid Turbo XT1254 got ignored by a lot of devs.
However, dev work was done on the sibling Quarks (Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225)-- which luckily also works on the Droid Turbo (now that that bootloader is unlocked). Only problem is Motorola did not sell the other Quarks in places like Europe, Canada nor Asia (except for India) and even in the U.S. the unlockable bootloader Quark (the U.S. Moto Maxx, with same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo) was only sold via regional CDMA/LTE carriers and hard to get. The "international" Moto Maxx XT1225 was sold in Latin American countries and the Moto Turbo XT1225 was sold in India. This should have been a WORLD WIDE phone, sold EVERYWHERE -- like a Samsung or LG flagship phone, but was not for some reason. Very strange!
However, there's 3 or 4 custom 5.1.1 ROMs over in the Quark/Moto Maxx section which will work with the XT1254:
* [ROM][5.1.1][OFFICIAL][QUARK] MoKee OpenSource Project
MoKee OpenSource is based on the Google AOSP. @baybutcher27 is the dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-mokee-opensource-project-t3188936
* [ROM][All Quark][5.1.1]Resurrection Remix 5.5.9 [Optimized / O3 / GRAPHITE / KRAIT]
Resurrection Remix has tons of options. @BayButcher is the also the dev for this ROM, which is very popular.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-5-5-t3197643
* [Moto MAXX XT1225 / Droid Turbo XT1254][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 12.1
CM12.1 was our first custom ROM and without it there would be no others, because all the Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo) custom ROMs use @Skrilax_CZ CM kernel in their ROMs. Even @baybutcher27 kernel uses @Skrilax_CZ CM kernel as a base.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot.../moto-maxx-xt1225-cm12-0-pre-release-t3060089
Also, a custom kernel:
* [Kernel][All Quark]BHB27-Kernel[5.1.1][CM base ROM's][V-1.2.3]
Custom kernel for our Quarks, using CM kernel as base but with lots more options. @baybutcher27 is the dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/kernel-bhb27-kernel-t3207526
I don't see any Sense ROM for any non HTC device.
Are you guys thinks that is really possible to make one for quark? I'm not shore if a regular dev can do, a very experience dev with Knowledge of CM quark and or Sense porting may, but I don't see one available to do that, I know I can't today and even if I do only that I may never be able some things are really hard to port.
Make a CM base ROM is easy any one can do if follow CM default recipe there is no mystery, may take a while to learn a few thing but is generally easy, the most hard thing is to setup the machine but for that google has a good tutorial and all the ROM manifest on git have they on too like RR for exemplo, if the particularly source need special config it will be on they manifest on git, if it is not there, is a easy find by just searching on other Moto device for that source.
Google tutorial
RR tutorial
So if you guys really wanna a ROM make your hands dirty and try to make one start by the easiest one that are CM base, the only thing that is need is a PC/Notebook with internet access average CPU about 100 to 150gb of free space, I'm build for months on my notebook and is a really simple one...
For a fact I know MM will bring new ROM different from the one we have today, I see some other dev with they MM source ready to make a ROM for quark the only problem is that today custom ROM are not working on MM but they will soon and then more ROM will be available.
If any one need help in build a ROM fell free to open a thread and quote me to help I will but don't expect step by step tutorial that already exist on google and XDA, I help in some things that are not much common and or related to quark only.
Fell free too to quot this post to any one that wanna this or that ROM, this way we may have more ROM in the future.
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baybutcher27 said:
I don't see any Sense ROM for any non HTC device.
Are you guys thinks that is really possible to make one for quark? I'm not shore if a regular dev can do, a very experience dev with Knowledge of CM quark and or Sense porting may, but I don't see one available to do that, I know I can't today and even if I do only that I may never be able some things are really hard to port.
Make a CM base ROM is easy any one can do if follow CM default recipe there is no mystery, may take a while to learn a few thing but is generally easy, the most hard thing is to setup the machine but for that google has a good tutorial and all the ROM manifest on git have they on too like RR for exemplo, if the particularly source need special config it will be on they manifest on git, if it is not there, is a easy find by just searching on other Moto device for that source.
Google tutorial
RR tutorial
So if you guys really wanna a ROM make your hands dirty and try to make one start by the easiest one that are CM base, the only thing that is need is a PC/Notebook with internet access average CPU about 100 to 150gb of free space, I'm build for months on my notebook and is a really simple one...
For a fact I know MM will bring new ROM different from the one we have today, I see some other dev with they MM source ready to make a ROM for quark the only problem is that today custom ROM are not working on MM but they will soon and then more ROM will be available.
If any one need help in build a ROM fell free to open a thread and quote me to help I will but don't expect step by step tutorial that already exist on google and XDA, I help in some things that are not much common and or related to quark only.
Fell free too to quot this post to any one that wanna this or that ROM, this way we may have more ROM in the future.
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Wow thanks alot, mabye ill have to give it a shot
Hi there. My brother got a Moto G 2014, Dual SIM variant, and want to use a Custom Stable ROM for daily use. Such ROM exists, or only Custom ROMs with Single SIM working?
Almost roms work on dual sim phones. I personally recommend the stock based Radium Redifined
Konamy said:
Hi there. My brother got a Moto G 2014, Dual SIM variant, and want to use a Custom Stable ROM for daily use. Such ROM exists, or only Custom ROMs with Single SIM working?
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Check out the Android Development thread, all Roms except one or two (where it's written in the starting post) work will full dual sim support. You can try RR, Turbo ROM (which I prefer), Krexus or Resurrection. There are a lot of great ROMs out there for the Moto G 2014 with dual sim.
Sent from my Moto G 2014 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Wolfcity said:
Check out the Android Development thread, all Roms except one or two (where it's written in the starting post) work will full dual sim support. You can try RR, Turbo ROM (which I prefer), Krexus or Resurrection. There are a lot of great ROMs out there for the Moto G 2014 with dual sim.
Sent from my Moto G 2014 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Thank you sooo much!!! This is gonna save the Moto G for my brother.
Title says it all. I am thinking about getting a droid turbo, and im just wondering If I can flash moto maxx custom ROMs onto the turbo without it bricking. Can anyone say if this works or not?
Yes, of course. If it says Quark, it's Quark.
Quark =
XT1254 Droid Turbo,
XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx,
XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx,
XT1225 Moto Turbo
They are ALL the same phone, like an LG G3 is an LG G3 -- whether sold in Britain or sold in U.S. or sold in Australia. In fact, the XT1254 is EXACTLY the same device as the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx -- same radio bands, same FCC ID. Verizon just re-named it the "Droid Turbo" -- so they could claim to have an "exclusive" phone. The only thing "exclusive" about the Droid Turbo is the Verizon-mandated locked down bootloader. (The other Quarks can be unlocked via free code from Motorola on request.)
Here's the list of ROMs you can flash on your Droid Turbo XT1254 AS LONG AS YOU UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER with Sunshine:
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx and Droid Turbo]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70473048&postcount=58
However, if your Droid Turbo is already on stock 6.0.1 with locked bootloader you are out of luck. Sunshine ($25) only works on Verizon Lollipop firmware. See that post for specific options on how to avoid getting a 6.0.1 Droid Turbo with bootloader which cannot be unlocked.
Here in this Droid Turbo forum you have AOKP on Nougat, over in the other Quark forum you have Resurrection Remix Nougat, crDroid Nougat, unofficial CM14 Nougat -- plus various Marshmallow and Lollipop ROMs scattered throughout.
We used to be ONE forum, but it was split in September 2015 -- ironically about two months before Sunshine team cracked the Droid Turbo bootloader (November 2015). Now we just all go back and forth, since the Droid Turbo joined the custom ROM party. Go up to that link and look at that ROM list.
That's why the EXACT same CM12.1 and CM13 are listed in both forums. After Droid Turbo bootloader was unlocked, the Quark official CM dev @Skrilax_CZ was nice enough to come back and re-list the ROMs here, even after he was booted out when the forums were split. (The Droid Turbo owners were tired of seeing all the dev work they couldn't have. They demanded the forums be split. Then two months later when Sunshine unlocked the bootloader, suddenly they wanted it all. ) He was nice enough to re-code his Quark CM kernel to also allow the Droid Turbo to use his work, when he didn't have to. Because of him, that allowed ALL the Quark custom ROMs to also run on Droid Turbo XT1254. All the custom ROMs (except for computerfreek274's Verizon stock-based Marshmallow ROM) run on CM-based kernel code -- which was pioneered by @Skrilax_CZ. Others like @bhb27 got us official Quark TWRP, more ROMs, several Quark specific apps, @bhb27 custom kernel, etc. All that work led to even more ROMs, now in both forums.
Most ROMs are listed over there, but some are listed in this forum. Go up that list and see them.
Thank you
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, of course. If it says Quark, it's Quark.
Quark =
XT1254 Droid Turbo,
XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx,
XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx,
XT1225 Moto Turbo
They are ALL the same phone, like an LG G3 is an LG G3 -- whether sold in Britain or sold in U.S. or sold in Australia. In fact, the XT1254 is EXACTLY the same device as the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx -- same radio bands, same FCC ID. Verizon just re-named it the "Droid Turbo" -- so they could claim to have an "exclusive" phone. The only thing "exclusive" about the Droid Turbo is the Verizon-mandated locked down bootloader. (The other Quarks can be unlocked via free code from Motorola on request.)
Here's the list of ROMs you can flash on your Droid Turbo XT1254 AS LONG AS YOU UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER with Sunshine:
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx and Droid Turbo]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70473048&postcount=58
However, if your Droid Turbo is already on stock 6.0.1 with locked bootloader you are out of luck. Sunshine ($25) only works on Verizon Lollipop firmware. See that post for specific options on how to avoid getting a 6.0.1 Droid Turbo with bootloader which cannot be unlocked.
Here in this Droid Turbo forum you have AOKP on Nougat, over in the other Quark forum you have Resurrection Remix Nougat, crDroid Nougat, unofficial CM14 Nougat -- plus various Marshmallow and Lollipop ROMs scattered throughout.
We used to be ONE forum, but it was split in September 2015 -- ironically about two months before Sunshine team cracked the Droid Turbo bootloader (November 2015). Now we just all go back and forth, since the Droid Turbo joined the custom ROM party. Go up to that link and look at that ROM list.
That's why the EXACT same CM12.1 and CM13 are listed in both forums. After Droid Turbo bootloader was unlocked, the Quark official CM dev @Skrilax_CZ was nice enough to come back and re-list the ROMs here, even after he was booted out when the forums were split. (The Droid Turbo owners were tired of seeing all the dev work they couldn't have. They demanded the forums be split. Then two months later when Sunshine unlocked the bootloader, suddenly they wanted it all. ) He was nice enough to re-code his Quark CM kernel to also allow the Droid Turbo to use his work, when he didn't have to. Because of him, that allowed ALL the Quark custom ROMs to also run on Droid Turbo XT1254. All the custom ROMs (except for computerfreek274's Verizon stock-based Marshmallow ROM) run on CM-based kernel code -- which was pioneered by @Skrilax_CZ. Others like @bhb27 got us official Quark TWRP, more ROMs, several Quark specific apps, @bhb27 custom kernel, etc. All that work led to even more ROMs, now in both forums.
Most ROMs are listed over there, but some are listed in this forum. Go up that list and see them.
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Holy information Batman! These forums rock been unlocked running customs Roms by these guys for a few months now.
Thank you to all!
Running Computer Freaks MM 1.05 with bhb27 kernal now trying to figure out theme ready Gapps now....Such a pain lol back to reading I go.
Ultross said:
Holy information Batman! These forums rock been unlocked running customs Roms by these guys for a few months now.
Thank you to all!
Running Computer Freaks MM 1.05 with bhb27 kernal now trying to figure out theme ready Gapps now....Such a pain lol back to reading I go.
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CF's ROM doesn't need GAPPS, as it's stock-based firmware. It already has Google apps. Any others you need, you have to download manually.
Here's from the dev himself:
computerfreek274 said:
This is a stock based rom do not use gapps.
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computerfreek274 said:
Because people get confused I am trying to keep it simple for others. Never run gapps on stock based roms it makes it unstable and some Google stuff not work correctly.
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CF's ROM doesn't need GAPPS, as it's stock-based firmware. It already has Google apps. Any others you need, you have to download manually.
Here's from the dev himself:
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Thanks!
Ultross said:
Running Computer Freaks MM 1.05 with bhb27 kernal now trying to figure out theme ready Gapps now....Such a pain lol back to reading I go.
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CF's ROM doesn't need GAPPS, as it's stock-based firmware. It already has Google apps. Any others you need, you have to download manually.
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He's actually looking for the "Theme-ready Gapps" package, which includes replacement Google apps that are modified by 3rd-parties to remove hard-coded colors and fonts. This is beneficial if you're using a dark or bold-colored theme, and are tired of some apps forcing a white "material design" background, or seeing dark text on a dark background.
Unfortunately, installation and maintenance of those modified apps is rather time intensive, as you're always delayed in getting new versions, you have to remove the official versions and disable updates, you have to manually check for updates, and each time an update is released you have to flash it through TWRP (frequently, as this is Google and it includes several apps).
I looked into it, but decided not to bother. I like my phone to be working for me, instead of me continually working on my phone.