Correct me if I am wrong, but with out unlocked bootloader, a dev could make a sense rom if there was enough kind requests?
While the unlocked bootloader makes it possible, that doesn't mean it will happen. Most developers don't make ROMs because its requested, but because they enjoy doing so and giving to the community. We could all band together and request a billion dollars from the bank but that's not gonna make them give it to us.
Unfortunately, those of us with a quark phone with a passion for modding and flashing is small. That's why we don't ha e a community with tons of ROMs like Nexus and other flagship devices.
But what we do have is a top of the line phone with some DEV love that is truely appreciated by those of us that use it and take pride in having a special unique phone.
However. There is an Xposed add-on that will allow you to flash sense apps, and with some theming and tweaks you can make CM almost look and function exactly like sense
What he said. Due to Verizon locking down the bootloader, which took about a year to overcome, the Droid Turbo XT1254 got ignored by a lot of devs.
However, dev work was done on the sibling Quarks (Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225)-- which luckily also works on the Droid Turbo (now that that bootloader is unlocked). Only problem is Motorola did not sell the other Quarks in places like Europe, Canada nor Asia (except for India) and even in the U.S. the unlockable bootloader Quark (the U.S. Moto Maxx, with same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo) was only sold via regional CDMA/LTE carriers and hard to get. The "international" Moto Maxx XT1225 was sold in Latin American countries and the Moto Turbo XT1225 was sold in India. This should have been a WORLD WIDE phone, sold EVERYWHERE -- like a Samsung or LG flagship phone, but was not for some reason. Very strange!
However, there's 3 or 4 custom 5.1.1 ROMs over in the Quark/Moto Maxx section which will work with the XT1254:
* [ROM][5.1.1][OFFICIAL][QUARK] MoKee OpenSource Project
MoKee OpenSource is based on the Google AOSP. @baybutcher27 is the dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-mokee-opensource-project-t3188936
* [ROM][All Quark][5.1.1]Resurrection Remix 5.5.9 [Optimized / O3 / GRAPHITE / KRAIT]
Resurrection Remix has tons of options. @BayButcher is the also the dev for this ROM, which is very popular.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-5-5-t3197643
* [Moto MAXX XT1225 / Droid Turbo XT1254][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 12.1
CM12.1 was our first custom ROM and without it there would be no others, because all the Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo) custom ROMs use @Skrilax_CZ CM kernel in their ROMs. Even @baybutcher27 kernel uses @Skrilax_CZ CM kernel as a base.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot.../moto-maxx-xt1225-cm12-0-pre-release-t3060089
Also, a custom kernel:
* [Kernel][All Quark]BHB27-Kernel[5.1.1][CM base ROM's][V-1.2.3]
Custom kernel for our Quarks, using CM kernel as base but with lots more options. @baybutcher27 is the dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/kernel-bhb27-kernel-t3207526
I don't see any Sense ROM for any non HTC device.
Are you guys thinks that is really possible to make one for quark? I'm not shore if a regular dev can do, a very experience dev with Knowledge of CM quark and or Sense porting may, but I don't see one available to do that, I know I can't today and even if I do only that I may never be able some things are really hard to port.
Make a CM base ROM is easy any one can do if follow CM default recipe there is no mystery, may take a while to learn a few thing but is generally easy, the most hard thing is to setup the machine but for that google has a good tutorial and all the ROM manifest on git have they on too like RR for exemplo, if the particularly source need special config it will be on they manifest on git, if it is not there, is a easy find by just searching on other Moto device for that source.
Google tutorial
RR tutorial
So if you guys really wanna a ROM make your hands dirty and try to make one start by the easiest one that are CM base, the only thing that is need is a PC/Notebook with internet access average CPU about 100 to 150gb of free space, I'm build for months on my notebook and is a really simple one...
For a fact I know MM will bring new ROM different from the one we have today, I see some other dev with they MM source ready to make a ROM for quark the only problem is that today custom ROM are not working on MM but they will soon and then more ROM will be available.
If any one need help in build a ROM fell free to open a thread and quote me to help I will but don't expect step by step tutorial that already exist on google and XDA, I help in some things that are not much common and or related to quark only.
Fell free too to quot this post to any one that wanna this or that ROM, this way we may have more ROM in the future.
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I don't see any Sense ROM for any non HTC device.
Are you guys thinks that is really possible to make one for quark? I'm not shore if a regular dev can do, a very experience dev with Knowledge of CM quark and or Sense porting may, but I don't see one available to do that, I know I can't today and even if I do only that I may never be able some things are really hard to port.
Make a CM base ROM is easy any one can do if follow CM default recipe there is no mystery, may take a while to learn a few thing but is generally easy, the most hard thing is to setup the machine but for that google has a good tutorial and all the ROM manifest on git have they on too like RR for exemplo, if the particularly source need special config it will be on they manifest on git, if it is not there, is a easy find by just searching on other Moto device for that source.
Google tutorial
RR tutorial
So if you guys really wanna a ROM make your hands dirty and try to make one start by the easiest one that are CM base, the only thing that is need is a PC/Notebook with internet access average CPU about 100 to 150gb of free space, I'm build for months on my notebook and is a really simple one...
For a fact I know MM will bring new ROM different from the one we have today, I see some other dev with they MM source ready to make a ROM for quark the only problem is that today custom ROM are not working on MM but they will soon and then more ROM will be available.
If any one need help in build a ROM fell free to open a thread and quote me to help I will but don't expect step by step tutorial that already exist on google and XDA, I help in some things that are not much common and or related to quark only.
Fell free too to quot this post to any one that wanna this or that ROM, this way we may have more ROM in the future.
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Wow thanks alot, mabye ill have to give it a shot
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Hey guys, this is my first thread but let me get to the point.
So about some time ago, I saw that CyanogenMod and other complicated ROMs couldn't be built on the G 2014. And the major issue, so I was thinking, was the kernel not being open-sourced (which is now true, thanks Motorola) and the fact that because the device was so "new", there wasn't any "device tree" which I refer myself as basically drivers for the phone. I saw that people were having issues building off AOSP ROMs because of display issues and stuffz. But since Today, I saw a new device tree for titan which is this one by somcom3x ( github[dot]com/somcom3x/android_device_motorola_titan ) and it seems pretty great to me. Now, I ain't a developer or anything and I'm really new to all that Android stuff but I wanted to ask now, what is retaining developers to not port CyanogenMod and/or build more ROMs. I'm sure it's because the phone is kinda new but it's sad to see such low development on what should be the successor of the great, popular 2013 Moto G.
Thanks guys ^^
We want ROMS ...please DEVS do something
We are all waiting for this. I think there are not ROMs because Lollipop its about to be released. Why make a KK ROM when in a month or two almost anybody would use it. I'm really anxious to hear from Lollipop ROMs for this device. There are a few stock ROMs but none for my variant xt1063
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We are all waiting for this. I think there are not ROMs because Lollipop its about to be released. Why make a KK ROM when in a month or two almost anybody would use it. I'm really anxious to hear from Lollipop ROMs for this device. There are a few stock ROMs but none for my variant xt1063
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Guess we can only pray for Lollipop AOSP ROMs and CM 12 then
Maybe we can request The Cyanogenmod team to make CM Builds for titan, but The lack of ROMs is probably due to The lollipop release.
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Maybe we can request The Cyanogenmod team to make CM Builds for titan, but The lack of ROMs is probably due to The lollipop release.
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I hope so, if not, i may have to return to the nexus line sooner than i thought
it's easy to make a CM Build for titan, since Moto G 1st Gen has the same hardware And already have some builds. if anyone can create a thread in the CM forum requesting CM Team to support our device, it would be great.
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Maybe we can request The Cyanogenmod team to make CM Builds for titan, but The lack of ROMs is probably due to The lollipop release.
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Makes no sense to me since there are a large number of users (myself included) who are not interested in upgrading to Lollipop. I have yet to find ANY compelling reason for doing so.
So speaking for myself, I would be extremely interested in a Kit-Kat based custom ROM for the XT-1063. I am not a developer and do not have the required skill set to develop my own ROM. As it stands I guess I will stick to the rooted, stock version, and Furnace 1.1.2 kernel.
no one is going to make rom if that developer does not have any device to develop.
even though moto g 1st gen and 2nd gen share many hardware features ....they are not exactly the same devices.
kernel sources are vastly different...you need to make device tree and vendor tree .
i am waiting for lollipop update to make cm12 for this device.
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i am waiting for lollipop update to make cm12 for this device.
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Moto g 1st gen has cm12 before official lollipop update.
Sumesh Kharnotia said:
We want ROMS ...please DEVS do something
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and i want a lot of money and beautiful girls, but we can't have all we want when we want it
ktulu84 said:
and i want a lot of money and beautiful girls, but we can't have all we want when we want it
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but we'll never lose hope in our Moto g 2nd gen Devs
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Moto g 1st gen has cm12 before official lollipop update.
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its because they have all things set up in cm code. they mostly need to compile and upload the rom...that is no big....but when official lollipop is released ...the developers of moto g 1st gen have to make changes to device tree and vendor trees and may be kernel source too....so instead of having that i am waiting for official release for my xt1068 and then i am goning to make device and vendor tree to make cm12 for this device...little longer wait is always good than a impatient attempt to make a rom.
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its because they have all things set up in cm code. they mostly need to compile and upload the rom...that is no big....but when official lollipop is released ...the developers of moto g 1st gen have to make changes to device tree and vendor trees and may be kernel source too....so instead of having that i am waiting for official release for my xt1068 and then i am goning to make device and vendor tree to make cm12 for this device...little longer wait is always good than a impatient attempt to make a rom.
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Wohooo k2wl in our section.
Enjoyed your work on my mom's grand duos man
Thanks
k2wl said:
its because they have all things set up in cm code. they mostly need to compile and upload the rom...that is no big....but when official lollipop is released ...the developers of moto g 1st gen have to make changes to device tree and vendor trees and may be kernel source too....so instead of having that i am waiting for official release for my xt1068 and then i am goning to make device and vendor tree to make cm12 for this device...little longer wait is always good than a impatient attempt to make a rom.
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Thank you for clearing this for me bro, I was a bit confused and I thought that this phone is already dead. Although, I haven't bought it yet, I was afraid of the absence of custom ROMs when I would get it . Now, you gave me hope that devs will at least try to make CM for this device. Thank you.
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Wohooo k2wl in our section.
Enjoyed your work on my mom's grand duos man
Thanks
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thanks for those kind words!!!
i hope to get cm12 on this amazing device!!! (after motorola's stock Android 5.0 update)
k2wl said:
thanks for those kind words!!!
i hope to get cm12 on this amazing device!!! (after motorola's stock Android 5.0 update)
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Np mate. Waiting for it
Want Cyanogenmod 11 on your Titan?
Guys...
You wanted CM11 on your Titan?
Look here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-11-t3024371
However... My issue is going back to CM12 Lollipop.
Kitkat is run on Dalvik. Lollipop uses ART.
Flashing directly (after wiping) from a KK based custom ROM, to a Lollipop based custom ROM could create issues.
Any answers please?
Hellow???
OK, I know that most people use the X for a pure, unmodified version of Android. I respect that. I believe that too, but if I could squeeze just a tiny bit more performance out of this device, it would be great. Is anyone here experienced with kernel development and wants to help develop a kernel for our beloved device?
@faux123 is supposed to develop one eventually. Otherwise CM uses a custom kernel for their ROM. I'm waiting for something compatible with stock though.
Hey bros,
I like to understand who is actually developing and maintaining the cm rom and kernels for our device? Ethan Chen, David Hacker,.. and how do they share the distribution of tasks in the different device and kernel repos like motorola_ghost and msm8960dt?
I was really impressed as dhacker pushed a highly customized and updated kernel for cm13 (there is one for cm12 too) into android_kernel_motorola_msm8960dt-common recently, but when and how will this work come to life? For me it looks like that the released rom or kernels for Moto X so far mostly neglected these source, so for what are the msm8960dt repos used atm?
Some clarification would be great.
regards
As far as I know,
android_device_motorola_msm8960dt-common - http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/project:CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_msm8960dt-common : This is the common device repo for msm8960dt motorola devices released in 2013 (Moto X, droid mini/maxx etc)
android_kernel_motorola_ghost - http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/project:CyanogenMod/android_kernel_motorola_ghost : This is the kernel for Moto X. Not common with other msm8960dt devices
And a lot of other code is taken from CAF-8960 branches from Qualcomm - http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/topic:qcom-bringup-8960
I may be wrong since all these are simply observations, so if someone with better knowledge please correct me
I've been a lurker on XDA for 6 years, but this is the first post, so I can't post in the development section. Is anyone interested in releasing a tweaked stock kernel that can be undervolted? That's free battery life improvements and cooler temperatures on the table that we aren't utilizing. Thanks.
undervolt capable kernel for all Quarks here:
[Kernel][All Quark]BHB27-Kernel[5.1.1][CM base ROM's][V-1.2.3]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/kernel-bhb27-kernel-t3207526
or you're asking for another one?
Sorry, should have specified that I'm looking for a kernel compatible with the stock ROM, or in my case, Computerfreek's unlocked ROM for the XT1254.
^^ i second that motion, ive tried flashing BH's kernel on CF's rom and it does not work.
@baybutcher27 did Motorola release the source for their kernel?
yes.
https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/tree/lollipop-5.1.1-release-quark
the job is not easy to make adaptation to stock kernel is need the kernel source for that ROM that one is for su44 but I don't believed that is 100% update in relation to the kernel that is on Su 44, some tings are odd to me when I look to the source but it must work. we can make that one to work on custom ROM, but to make it work on stock, is need a dev that have a XT1254 and are on verizon network and a lot of time.
Most change that I make work on custom can be ported to the stock kernel, so if a dev can do this it just need to check to my or any other msm or apq8084 device nexus 6, and samsung device that have apq8084 variant note 4 and S5 maybe others.
I can make my kernel boot on xt1225 5.0.2 stock ROM, but many tings don't work of course that kernel source is not made to xt1225 stock ROM but I can make it boot, so if a dev has a xt1254 and are on verizon may have more luck.
Title says it all. I am thinking about getting a droid turbo, and im just wondering If I can flash moto maxx custom ROMs onto the turbo without it bricking. Can anyone say if this works or not?
Yes, of course. If it says Quark, it's Quark.
Quark =
XT1254 Droid Turbo,
XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx,
XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx,
XT1225 Moto Turbo
They are ALL the same phone, like an LG G3 is an LG G3 -- whether sold in Britain or sold in U.S. or sold in Australia. In fact, the XT1254 is EXACTLY the same device as the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx -- same radio bands, same FCC ID. Verizon just re-named it the "Droid Turbo" -- so they could claim to have an "exclusive" phone. The only thing "exclusive" about the Droid Turbo is the Verizon-mandated locked down bootloader. (The other Quarks can be unlocked via free code from Motorola on request.)
Here's the list of ROMs you can flash on your Droid Turbo XT1254 AS LONG AS YOU UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER with Sunshine:
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx and Droid Turbo]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70473048&postcount=58
However, if your Droid Turbo is already on stock 6.0.1 with locked bootloader you are out of luck. Sunshine ($25) only works on Verizon Lollipop firmware. See that post for specific options on how to avoid getting a 6.0.1 Droid Turbo with bootloader which cannot be unlocked.
Here in this Droid Turbo forum you have AOKP on Nougat, over in the other Quark forum you have Resurrection Remix Nougat, crDroid Nougat, unofficial CM14 Nougat -- plus various Marshmallow and Lollipop ROMs scattered throughout.
We used to be ONE forum, but it was split in September 2015 -- ironically about two months before Sunshine team cracked the Droid Turbo bootloader (November 2015). Now we just all go back and forth, since the Droid Turbo joined the custom ROM party. Go up to that link and look at that ROM list.
That's why the EXACT same CM12.1 and CM13 are listed in both forums. After Droid Turbo bootloader was unlocked, the Quark official CM dev @Skrilax_CZ was nice enough to come back and re-list the ROMs here, even after he was booted out when the forums were split. (The Droid Turbo owners were tired of seeing all the dev work they couldn't have. They demanded the forums be split. Then two months later when Sunshine unlocked the bootloader, suddenly they wanted it all. ) He was nice enough to re-code his Quark CM kernel to also allow the Droid Turbo to use his work, when he didn't have to. Because of him, that allowed ALL the Quark custom ROMs to also run on Droid Turbo XT1254. All the custom ROMs (except for computerfreek274's Verizon stock-based Marshmallow ROM) run on CM-based kernel code -- which was pioneered by @Skrilax_CZ. Others like @bhb27 got us official Quark TWRP, more ROMs, several Quark specific apps, @bhb27 custom kernel, etc. All that work led to even more ROMs, now in both forums.
Most ROMs are listed over there, but some are listed in this forum. Go up that list and see them.
Thank you
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, of course. If it says Quark, it's Quark.
Quark =
XT1254 Droid Turbo,
XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx,
XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx,
XT1225 Moto Turbo
They are ALL the same phone, like an LG G3 is an LG G3 -- whether sold in Britain or sold in U.S. or sold in Australia. In fact, the XT1254 is EXACTLY the same device as the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx -- same radio bands, same FCC ID. Verizon just re-named it the "Droid Turbo" -- so they could claim to have an "exclusive" phone. The only thing "exclusive" about the Droid Turbo is the Verizon-mandated locked down bootloader. (The other Quarks can be unlocked via free code from Motorola on request.)
Here's the list of ROMs you can flash on your Droid Turbo XT1254 AS LONG AS YOU UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER with Sunshine:
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx and Droid Turbo]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70473048&postcount=58
However, if your Droid Turbo is already on stock 6.0.1 with locked bootloader you are out of luck. Sunshine ($25) only works on Verizon Lollipop firmware. See that post for specific options on how to avoid getting a 6.0.1 Droid Turbo with bootloader which cannot be unlocked.
Here in this Droid Turbo forum you have AOKP on Nougat, over in the other Quark forum you have Resurrection Remix Nougat, crDroid Nougat, unofficial CM14 Nougat -- plus various Marshmallow and Lollipop ROMs scattered throughout.
We used to be ONE forum, but it was split in September 2015 -- ironically about two months before Sunshine team cracked the Droid Turbo bootloader (November 2015). Now we just all go back and forth, since the Droid Turbo joined the custom ROM party. Go up to that link and look at that ROM list.
That's why the EXACT same CM12.1 and CM13 are listed in both forums. After Droid Turbo bootloader was unlocked, the Quark official CM dev @Skrilax_CZ was nice enough to come back and re-list the ROMs here, even after he was booted out when the forums were split. (The Droid Turbo owners were tired of seeing all the dev work they couldn't have. They demanded the forums be split. Then two months later when Sunshine unlocked the bootloader, suddenly they wanted it all. ) He was nice enough to re-code his Quark CM kernel to also allow the Droid Turbo to use his work, when he didn't have to. Because of him, that allowed ALL the Quark custom ROMs to also run on Droid Turbo XT1254. All the custom ROMs (except for computerfreek274's Verizon stock-based Marshmallow ROM) run on CM-based kernel code -- which was pioneered by @Skrilax_CZ. Others like @bhb27 got us official Quark TWRP, more ROMs, several Quark specific apps, @bhb27 custom kernel, etc. All that work led to even more ROMs, now in both forums.
Most ROMs are listed over there, but some are listed in this forum. Go up that list and see them.
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Holy information Batman! These forums rock been unlocked running customs Roms by these guys for a few months now.
Thank you to all!
Running Computer Freaks MM 1.05 with bhb27 kernal now trying to figure out theme ready Gapps now....Such a pain lol back to reading I go.
Ultross said:
Holy information Batman! These forums rock been unlocked running customs Roms by these guys for a few months now.
Thank you to all!
Running Computer Freaks MM 1.05 with bhb27 kernal now trying to figure out theme ready Gapps now....Such a pain lol back to reading I go.
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CF's ROM doesn't need GAPPS, as it's stock-based firmware. It already has Google apps. Any others you need, you have to download manually.
Here's from the dev himself:
computerfreek274 said:
This is a stock based rom do not use gapps.
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computerfreek274 said:
Because people get confused I am trying to keep it simple for others. Never run gapps on stock based roms it makes it unstable and some Google stuff not work correctly.
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CF's ROM doesn't need GAPPS, as it's stock-based firmware. It already has Google apps. Any others you need, you have to download manually.
Here's from the dev himself:
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Thanks!
Ultross said:
Running Computer Freaks MM 1.05 with bhb27 kernal now trying to figure out theme ready Gapps now....Such a pain lol back to reading I go.
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CF's ROM doesn't need GAPPS, as it's stock-based firmware. It already has Google apps. Any others you need, you have to download manually.
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He's actually looking for the "Theme-ready Gapps" package, which includes replacement Google apps that are modified by 3rd-parties to remove hard-coded colors and fonts. This is beneficial if you're using a dark or bold-colored theme, and are tired of some apps forcing a white "material design" background, or seeing dark text on a dark background.
Unfortunately, installation and maintenance of those modified apps is rather time intensive, as you're always delayed in getting new versions, you have to remove the official versions and disable updates, you have to manually check for updates, and each time an update is released you have to flash it through TWRP (frequently, as this is Google and it includes several apps).
I looked into it, but decided not to bother. I like my phone to be working for me, instead of me continually working on my phone.