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I was holding out to get the Nexus 6 when it came out. But at almost 6 inches that is just way way to big for me. So I was looking at the pure edition Moto X for Tmobile. In terms of camera and screen how to they compare to the N5? And I assume that the Moto X will get updates just about as fast as Nexus devices or close to it. The main thing is I wanted a bigger screen something like 5.2 to 5.5.
If the main thing you want is that slightly larger screen then the x is for you
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The nexus 5 radios, camera, and speaker are crap too (I'm typing on mine now). I can't take a video (won't focus) or non blurry picture of my son in his room even during the day.
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I was holding out to get the Nexus 6 when it came out. But at almost 6 inches that is just way way to big for me. So I was looking at the pure edition Moto X for Tmobile. In terms of camera and screen how to they compare to the N5? And I assume that the Moto X will get updates just about as fast as Nexus devices or close to it. The main thing is I wanted a bigger screen something like 5.2 to 5.5.
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We do not know the Nexus 6 is a 6" phone screen, that is just one rumor. I do not think Google will go with a 6" screen, because then it isnt really a phone and the Nexus line is all about what Google thinks the Android phone market standard should be for this year. They wont try to make the standard 6" screens.
I have just ordered my Moto X after much deliberation. I love my Nexus 5, is been a great phone, fantastic display, nice size and worked flawlessly, I genuinely thought I would I would always buy Nexus, however 6" is just too big, 5.2" is even bigger than I would like. I think I will miss the development side of things most, I have always rooted my phones and benefitted from all the advantages that gave, however it would appear unless I want to forgo my warranty, that won't be happening with the X, that said who knows with Android L when it comes out, it may not be even possible, or at least as easy as it once was.
So why did I do it? Why buy the X? Well, great as the Nexus 5 is, it's a bit nuts and bolts, great developers phone, but not as polished as a users phone. I am looking forward to the amoled screen, which I know aren't everyone's cup of tea, but the contract ratio and the way the colours jump out at you, I like that. If the X is as fast as the 5, I think I will be happy.
You will experience great signal/voice quality, better than most other phones.
The camera on the MotoX is adequate for good lighting, but terrible in low light situation, this can be fixed by enabling HDR mode which greatly help with reducing grains and improve details.
AMOLED screens have it's benefit, but color accuracy isn't it. It will be very saturated, but it have better contrast, better viewing angle, and deeper black which I love.
There are many other aspects that is better like speaker, overall design and the unique Moto features that make it much more useful than a bare bone Nexus. While the Moto X 2014 battery is not great, you should get slightly better battery life compared to the Nexus 5.
I used to be a heavy flasher, but since using the Moto X 2013 I stopped rooting.
I have had the N5 since last November and I love the phone but it looks like Google will not be releasing a phone with this screen size anytime soon. Would like the features that the Moto X has with regards to waking the phone and a few other tweaks that they do.
I have a code from cyber Monday so it would cost $400 today, which is a great price compared to the Nexus 6 and other devices. Do I need a new phone? No, but I would like a new one to play around with for the next year until something better comes along.
The only thing it looks like I would really miss is the wireless charging.
So, for those of you who have come from the N5, was it the right choice?
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I thought it was going to be mostly a sidegrade with a couple bonus features and it ended up feeling like a reasonable UPgrade. The build is far nicer and more robust feeling, the curved glass on front that wraps around the edges feels infinetly nicer on your face. The moto display is just as awesome as I thought it would be, battery life is much better. The speaker for ringing/media is WORLDS AND WORLDS better, louder, clearer, deeper.
I think its well worth it, add to that, I sold my 5 for $260 (16GB black)
The camera is barely an improvement. Everything else is a pretty significant improvement here even though the specs dont show much, go ahead, it will be money well spent! The nexus 6 is just too big and too expensive!
I have both. The N5 is still an amazing phone but the Moto X is in a class all its own. It's a definite upgrade and well worth every penny, ESPECIALLY with the cyber Monday discount.
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I traded my wifes N5 for a Moto X 2014 and i think it is a substantial upgrade. I benchmarked it even though it is an att phone with all of the att bloat and it still did 44000 antutu, whereas my N5 best score fully rom'd and custom kernel and everything only got 41750. I know some people think benchmarks are useless, but i like seeing higher scores from phones that have better specs.
I honestly think the camera on the x is not as good. I miss hdr+ and think the ois on the nexus is better, despite being a lower mp. The moto does feel better in hand to me and i didnt know how much i would love the dimple on the back. Its great to have to stabilize the phone with one hand.
Overall, the price is right, you can sell your N5 (i sold my n5 for $250 locally), and you are more up to date with the new phones out there.
Just my opinion.
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I was hoping the camera would be just as good or a little better than on the N5, one person says that it is and another says it is not. Of course I know this is all subjective and I will be the only person who can determine this. I wish the camera was definitely better and not so close in quality.
Looks like I am just going to go ahead and order the Moto X, I will keep the N5 for a little bit just in case I don't like it and then I will try and sell it.
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I was hoping the camera would be just as good or a little better than on the N5, one person says that it is and another says it is not. Of course I know this is all subjective and I will be the only person who can determine this. I wish the camera was definitely better and not so close in quality.
Looks like I am just going to go ahead and order the Moto X, I will keep the N5 for a little bit just in case I don't like it and then I will try and sell it.
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I honestly feel like the Nexus 5 is a bit snappier plus the camera on my Moto x doesn't seem to focus easily. I still think it's worth the upgrade though due to the build quality and the extras like active display etc. I always felt like I was going to break my nexus 5 at any moment
I remember I used to love the AMOLED display on my old Moto x but I'm having a little trouble getting used to it again. I know that's just temporary though and eventually it will be vice versa. Just some things to consider though
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I honestly feel like the Nexus 5 is a bit snappier plus the camera on my Moto x doesn't seem to focus easily. I still think it's worth the upgrade though due to the build quality and the extras like active display etc. I always felt like I was going to break my nexus 5 at any moment
I remember I used to love the AMOLED display on my old Moto x but I'm having a little trouble getting used to it again. I know that's just temporary though and eventually it will be vice versa. Just some things to consider though
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There is no way the N5 is snappier than the Moto X. I use both phones daily and when side by side the Moto X is noticeably faster and more responsive than the N5. I'm running stock KitKat on both devices.
I do agree that the camera on the Moto X leaves a bit to be desired but for my needs it's just fine. I do think it is a little better than the N5's camera but not by much. Both cameras are capable of producing some really nice shots, it just seems that conditions have to be just right in order to do so.
And yeah, the screen does take some getting used to. Both my N5 and my iPhone 6 have near perfect color calibration so whenever I pick up the Moto X it always looks excessively warm to me. But I'm using CF.Lumen to fix it so mine is a LOT better now. The Moto X does have waaaay better viewing angles than the N5 though so it's a trade off.
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I was very torn about spending the money but made a very last minute decision to buy the moto x last night before the coupon expired. It is going to be a fairly expensive toy/experiment to play around with at first to see if I like it better than the N5, but I am looking forward to it. I figure I can sell either one to make some money back in the end.
I also decided to get it engraved with "pure X moto", I may regret this later but I liked it at the time. doh!
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I was very torn about spending the money but made a very last minute decision to buy the moto x last night before the coupon expired. It is going to be a fairly expensive toy/experiment to play around with at first to see if I like it better than the N5, but I am looking forward to it. I figure I can sell either one to make some money back in the end.
I also decided to get it engraved with "pure X moto", I may regret this later but I liked it at the time. doh!
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If you can afford it, I'd hang on to both phones, that's what I'm doing. I feel like the N5 is going to be a highly coveted phone a couple years from now, it's easily the best Nexus phone so far (yes, even better than the N6 IMO). Plus, if you are a fan of flashing custom ROMs and the like, you'll need the N5 for that because it's highly unlikely that the X will see much development.
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There is no way the N5 is snappier than the Moto X. I use both phones daily and when side by side the Moto X is noticeably faster and more responsive than the N5. I'm running stock KitKat on both devices.
I do agree that the camera on the Moto X leaves a bit to be desired but for my needs it's just fine. I do think it is a little better than the N5's camera but not by much. Both cameras are capable of producing some really nice shots, it just seems that conditions have to be just right in order to do so.
And yeah, the screen does take some getting used to. Both my N5 and my iPhone 6 have near perfect color calibration so whenever I pick up the Moto X it always looks excessively warm to me. But I'm using CF.Lumen to fix it so mine is a LOT better now. The Moto X does have waaaay better viewing angles than the N5 though so it's a trade off.
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Very true, the Moto X is easily the snappier of the two, and is probably the snappiest phone on the market right now. The problem with the camera seems to be with the focus, especially with a foreground and a background subject or macro shots, it struggles to focus correctly. I'm still hoping Motorola to bring some sort of worthy software upgrade to the camera now that lollipop allows more control over the camera hardware. With flash though, the Moto X does seem to perform better than the N5 almost every time. Overall, it seems to be on par with the N5 or a little bit better than the N5, but yes, we all wish that the camera was a little more better!
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There is no way the N5 is snappier than the Moto X. I use both phones daily and when side by side the Moto X is noticeably faster and more responsive than the N5. I'm running stock KitKat on both devices.
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I still have my Nexus 5 and use it from time to time, there is definitely some noticeable stuttering in some apps that I've never experienced on the Nexus 5. I know certain apps are a bad comparison, the Facebook app for example, however I still have never experienced any lag, ever on the Nexus.
Nexus 5 has the stock lollipop image and my Moto was updated to lollipop immediately after powering it on. Maybe it's due to the OTA update
I love the new moto x. Just got it a couple weeks ago to replace my 5 and it's better in every way. I've always had nexus phones and shunned away from other customised android phones but the features Motorola adds in are actually useful and have a real world use unlike all the crap on galaxy phoned.
i prefer the moto x display, but the dev is literally nonexistent.
I switched from the Nexus 5 to the Moto X 2014 because Google ended up refunding me the cost of the Nexus 5 due to a defect under warranty. I posted my thoughts about the two on another forum and updated them below after having the Moto X for a week.
Build Quality
Overall, it feels more solid than the Nexus 5, not that the Nexus 5 was a poorly made phone. Both are fine here but I would give the edge to the Moto X. I got the royal blue back, and I will say that it's more slippery than my black Nexus 5, but not as slippery as my wife's white Nexus 5. I definitely prefer the soft touch of the black Nexus 5 though, as I really feel like I need to hold on to my phone.
Screen
I'd say it's a wash. You're basically looking at a middle of the road AMOLED screen vs a middle of the road LCD, with all the benefits and issues of each. Moto X has better blacks, brighter colors, no backlight bleed (since there's no backlight). But it has slightly pink whites unless you turn the brightness up. The Nexus 5 has more pure whites and gets a little brighter, plus you won't have to worry about burn-in.
Sound
Moto X is the clear winner here. Ignoring front vs bottom firing, the Moto X speaker is much louder and clearer than the Nexus 5. Headphone quality is about the same, though the Moto X response is lacking a bit in the sub-bass frequencies. I have the Sennheiser Momentum In-Ear and the ATH-M50, and the bass lacks some impact when using my Moto X headphone jack vs the Nexus 5. The Moto X headphone output also has more noticeable hiss than the Nexus 5.
Performance
Basically the same.
Camera
I don't think either of them have a great camera... but I also don't think the Note 4 has a great camera and that was rated as one of the best cameras on a phone. They just can't compare to even a cheap point and shoot. The lack of OIS is noticeable in low light though, especially when I was trying to take pictures of my Christmas lights. Neither camera took a great photo but the Nexus 5 was more acceptable.
Software
Again, very similar here. I like some of the Motorola tweaks but I don't make frequent use of many of them. Always listening is a neat gimmick but I don't find myself using it often "in real life." Active Display isn't that much of an improvement over a notification LED in my mind, but Approach triggering it is nice. "Sleeping" mode is a nice improvement over the complete lack thereof in KitKat but Lollipop implemented "Downtime" so it's not a killer feature. Only real annoyance so far is that Moto Display constantly triggers in my car even if I disable the Approach functionality.
Battery Life
Battery life is a wash. The Moto X gets better screen on time if I am actively using it, but the Nexus 5 seems to have better idle time.
Overall
I'm not really sure which I prefer. The better loudspeaker on the Moto X is a huge upgrade, but it's unfortunate that the headphone output isn't as good. The screens are about the same, though I do like the slightly bigger size of the Moto X. It's also unfortunate that the Moto X is not using soft touch plastic for its colors, despite saying that it has a "soft finish."
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I still have my Nexus 5 and use it from time to time, there is definitely some noticeable stuttering in some apps that I've never experienced on the Nexus 5. I know certain apps are a bad comparison, the Facebook app for example, however I still have never experienced any lag, ever on the Nexus.
Nexus 5 has the stock lollipop image and my Moto was updated to lollipop immediately after powering it on. Maybe it's due to the OTA update
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Yeah, the N5 is completely lag and stutter free, there's no arguing that. But so is my Moto X, I've never noticed a single stutter. Maybe in FB, but it's no worse than the N5, and in my experience it's better. The N5 is a ridiculously smooth device, but side by side with my X, the X is smoother yet. One thing I find hilarious is how so many people dislike Android because it's not as smooth as the iPhone, but I own an iPhone 6 (typing on it now) and both the N5 and Moto X are actually smoother (at least in the UI) than the iPhone 6 is. It's quite remarkable, really. Both are amazing devices, and that's why I'll never sell my N5, and I'll likely hang on to my Moto X forever as well.
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I bought the N5 on launch day last year and loved it. I got bored with it around august and went with a G3. The G3 was great at first because it was new, but as the days went on, I couldn't stand the lag and the LG skin. So my dilemma was do I wait for a nexus 6, go back to the nexus 5 or try something new?
I started seeing all this hype over the moto X and I figured, "what the hell" and I ordered it. Best damn phone I've ever owned. Yes, there are some draw backs, like the camera (it's not bad, just no where near the G3), but overall, the look, the feel, the solidness, the pure android experience with moto add-ons (not moto trying to re-invent the wheel) and battery life make this phone awesome. I get double the SOT of my N5 and the same as the G3. Moto's voice assist is great and active display is second to none.
Well worth it.
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Yeah, the N5 is completely lag and stutter free, there's no arguing that. But so is my Moto X, I've never noticed a single stutter. Maybe in FB, but it's no worse than the N5, and in my experience it's better. The N5 is a ridiculously smooth device, but side by side with my X, the X is smoother yet. One thing I find hilarious is how so many people dislike Android because it's not as smooth as the iPhone, but I own an iPhone 6 (typing on it now) and both the N5 and Moto X are actually smoother (at least in the UI) than the iPhone 6 is. It's quite remarkable, really. Both are amazing devices, and that's why I'll never sell my N5, and I'll likely hang on to my Moto X forever as well.
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You have convinced me to do a factory reset on my moto x. Sounds like I might be having some issues from the 5.0 update
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You have convinced me to do a factory reset on my moto x. Sounds like I might be having some issues from the 5.0 update
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I have no experience with 5.0 on the X, but I do with the N5... I'm not a fan. That's why I'm still running KK on both devices. Lollipop has just too many issues for me.
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Thanks for all the input, I appreciate it!
I have the Moto X on order and now the waiting begins, I guess I should have skipped the engraving...
Got a pure edition with slate back, black front and silver metallic accents and for the engraving: pure X moto
And I also ordered the Gelli case since I was able to get 30% off accessories with the cyber Monday coupon code.
New moto X looks pretty awesome... I don't see any reason not to switch... Anyone else thinking of doing the same?
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New moto X looks pretty awesome... I don't see any reason not to switch... Anyone else thinking of doing the same?
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Smaller screen ,not amoled , and basically the same hardware.Nexus 6 should be faster with updates.
I can't find a reason to switch to moto x style.
If i do it ,i will pick a device with better specs (4gb ram,sd810).
First smartphone that i can think of is oneplus two.
The new nexus device(s) are not that far away either.
I'm going for the moto style that's what it's called in UK looks great and loving the build of my N6 so the new moto x style should be awesome and the price is good..
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vadergr said:
Smaller screen ,not amoled , and basically the same hardware.Nexus 6 should be faster with updates.
I can't find a reason to switch to moto x style.
If i do it ,i will pick a device with better specs (4gb ram,sd810).
First smartphone that i can think of is oneplus two.
The new nexus device(s) are not that far away either.
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You wouldn't pick up a Moto X because no 4gb of ram or 810 (which what good is an 810 if it had to be throttled to not overheat) or no amoled screen yet would pick up a oneplus two thats lacking.....
QHD screen
sd card support
NFC
Quick Charging
Front facing speakers
smaller mp camera
smaller screen than Moto X
Can only be activated on att& and tmobile
Need an invite to purchase
I'm sorry....what???
That's 20MP is tempting me to switch.
Grabbed the Nexus 6 originally in hopes that moto suite could be ported over. That has turned out to be pretty much a fail, so getting the moto x pure is probably the next best thing. Can't wait to get it! At this point if moto apps haven't been ported over to the nexus 6 I have a feeling it never will.
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You wouldn't pick up a Moto X because no 4gb of ram or 810 (which what good is an 810 if it had to be throttled to not overheat) or no amoled screen yet would pick up a oneplus two thats lacking.....
QHD screen
sd card support
NFC
Quick Charging
Front facing speakers
smaller mp camera
smaller screen than Moto X
Can only be activated on att& and tmobile
Need an invite to purchase
I'm sorry....what???
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I can understand your thoughts and questions.
1)Nothing beats the deep blacks of amoled display.I get it that nexus's 6 display is not calibrated but i don't care that much.My projector needs to be calibrated, the screen of my phone doesn't have to (my opinion).I choose infinite contrast than accurate colors.Basically i prefer to have both , but samsung devices lost me as a customer since the implementation of knox counter.
2)sd810 is way better than 808 even if it throttles.My previous flex 2 did throttle but only in benchmarks.Had no impact on real life usage or gaming.The andreno of the 810 is a beast compared to the one of 808.You need that power when you have to deal with qhd screens.Also oneplus promised a better tuned sd810 for oneplus two model.
3)The oneplus 2 doesn't have quick charging but it charges relatively quick (early reports) and i personally never used nfc.Oneplus two will probably have better battery life performance than motorola style.
4)Will miss the dual speakers,and would like an sd card, i admit it
5)Camera performance was never that great on a Motorola device and more mpixels will not make guaranteed difference.I trust more the one on oneplus two (had oneplus one before)
6)I am from Europe , usually we don't depend that much on carriers .
7)Invite system sucks , but if you need one, you will get it easily.
8)The oneplus (and nexus 6) have great support on xda with unlocked bootloader and no warranty loss.
I am not saying that style is a bad device, not at all.I am just not receiving the "flagship" feeling of the other devices (no amoled , no 4gb ram , no sd810).For my needs, the nexus 6 is still the better one.
After a very disappointing event (Nexus wise) Google showcased today, I'm leaning toward the X 2014 Pure Edition. I've already made mine on Moto Maker and just waiting to pull the trigger.
I've had every nexus since the N1 but skipped out on the N6 due to its size. Now this year looks like I'm going to skip out again; the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5, the 6p (given has slightly better specs) is still too big for me. Mind you, I'm 6'6" with large hands, however I dont like big phones.. I dont like the fact I have to use finger-gymnastics to navigate the screen.
Anyways, given the stouter (sp?, word? lol) body of the X and its 5.2 display, it feels amazing. Quite perfect, actually... Reminds me of the G3; shorter body but housed a 5.5.. Amazing. And I really like the design of the moto x/n6 as well. minimal bezel, attractive, etc.
Given now this phone is a year old, would you still buy it today? I just want a 'new' device (the n5 has been great, treated me very nicely still runs perfect running 6.0 now), and I've always wanted to make my own moto x (always been a moto fan) but given what i do to phones and how i use them, the nexus always took my money. Since moto is pure Android out of the box, I think I can manage going away from a nexus this year.
Since the Moto Pure (2015) is too big, I've decided to maybe jump to the 2014 until next years moto or nexus..
Thoughts?
I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
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I completely agree on everything you said.. Well put.. You and I think a lot alike.. However, (lol) the only difference with me is that yes, I consider myself a tech enthusiast, but I dont necessarily itch for the latest and greatest. Because sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest (for my uses anyway). I still consider my Nexus 5 to be at the top of the list compared to devices today... Most of that 'top of the list' title is due to pure android of course. Nothing beats that experience. Yeah, specs arent "great" and the average user who sees the Nexus' specs on paper wont give the device the light day, but it still out performs most if not all devices today and I've been perfectly content with its specs. But gah, I've been a big fan of the design Moto has instilled in their phones, and that in itself is a big attraction to me.. I sometimes wish the n5 was a tad bigger with less bezel, and honestly, the moto x 2014 fits the bill perfectly.
Hahaha that's funny you say that.. I have buddies all the time trying to get the "latest and greatest" top tier phone with the best of everything but continue getting let down when my 2 year old phone runs circles around their bloated and skinned devices. So to have my buddies chug on a beer and gloat about their high end devices, im sitting over here thinking, "thats cute".. User experience means more to me than specs to an extent... Just like you said, once time passes, those specs become less and less relevant and all you have left is user experience. I'd take a phone with lesser specs and amazing user experience than grab a device with high end everything but cant keep up with what im doing. Thats where our beloved Nexus and Moto X's come to play.
So thank you for your input! I agree on the Pure Edition 100% :good:
surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Didnt sound negative at all, sir! This is just good discussion.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the design. Its such a good looking device. And to me, thats why i like it over the 5x. IMO the 5x isnt so attractive. Moto x wins on that one. The design of the phone really makes my phone buying hard. Every Nexus so far has been good looking imo except these recent ones. I'm picky lol.
Ok, I might have stated my argument incorrectly.. Lets try this, "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5 that is relevant to my uses"
- Larger battery? Sure does. However I was/am still getting 4-5 hours SOT on medium-heavy usage. So battery has never really been an issue for me.
- New processor. Yes, this is the only thing that attracts me.
- Better Camera? Sure. A lot better actually. But I was/am taking amazing photos with n5 camera now. I can link you to my instagram if need be lol (The moto X has a better camera than my n5 so ill be content). Yes, I would LOVE the 1.55 pixel, but its not the deciding factor when i look for a new phone.
Fingerprint scanner? Irrelevant for me. I couldnt care less for it. Now, put that fingerprint scanner on the power button (like the z5) then youll have my attention.
So yes, the 5x has more to offer than the moto, but the moto is an upgrade (kinda) from my n5.. The deciding factor for me is the design tbh.. I think the 5x doesnt look very good. Its as damn near the same size and everything of the z3, only the 5x being a tad taller. While the Moto houses the same screen size (5.2), is a lot shorter, has minimal bezel, and just looks and feels better.
Hope that clears some stuff up
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest
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Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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I have a moto x2014 as well but I barely see 2:30 hrs of SOT ....I'm running stock 5.1
I would have answered yes until today's Motorola announcement that carrier versions of the Moto X 2014 will not be upgraded to Android 6.0
That's the carriers fault though isn't it?
Probably be able to get CM I'm sure.
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N01tra said:
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
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I can definitely see why you say that.. I concur
Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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that signature is hilarious -- i dont game, so i have no worries on that
rapperman said:
Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
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I can see why you say that.. makes sense.. and come to think of it, youre right.. Even though our beloved nexus devices are the creme of the crop (to some people), its lacks certain things that i think would be nice to have.. small things nonetheless. slightly better camera, etc.. But i know that our nexus devices arent made to be top tier, so its understandable and i accept it.
but going off what you say, "Moto seems to understand the needs of the inbetweener". I concur. They make a device thats pure android, add better than average features (but not over the top that drives up the price), and still make it reasonably priced. i like that, and this thread is making my decision to pull the trigger even stronger.. Monday cant come here fast enough.
Hey everyone, this is my first post so if I'm not posting in the correct area, I apologize for that.
For the past two+ years I've been using verizon's HTC One M7. It's been a great phone save for the fact that it's exceedingly difficult to debloat. This particular model is loaded down with verizon crapware and there's no easy way to root/unlock the bootloader. I digress
I'm in the market for a new phone. I've decided to ditch my carrier's phones and go unlocked. I want a stock android experience that isn't too locked down by the OEM, so I've opted to get a nexus device.
I'm torn as to whether or not I should get the Nexus 6 right now or wait another month or so for the Nexus 6p. As well as my M7 has served me, it is beginning to show it's age, I'm really hankering to get a new device asap. Part of me says that the 6P is only a marginal upgrade from the 6, and is 150 more expensive for the 64gb model so I wouldn't be losing much by getting it. The other part of me says that I've been using this phone for over two years, and another month won't kill me.
Anyway, I'm looking for input. I'd be more confident getting a Nexus 6 but the demo model I played with had this sickeningly salmon-tinted screen that was also visibly more dim than the panel on my M7. I've heard it's a "feature" but it seems more like a defect to me. I've heard the pinkness only shows up in some models, as does burn on imaging, but I really would have to hate to send the phone in to get it fixed. Anyone have any experience with the salmon colored screens on the Nexus 6?
Edit: After a bit of research, I've heard that burn in images are more common in AMOLED displays, so I'm worried this problem may be carried over the the 6P. This doesn't make much sense because I haven't heard of this issue occurring in other devices using AMOLED displays such as those put out by Samsung. Could this be a Motorola AMOLED problem, or is this something all AMOLED screens are subject to?
Anyone here have any input? Thanks.
As an owner of the original Nexus 6 I personally don't think it is worth the extra money to go to the Nexus 6P. The minimal gains with the 6P are offset by the losses that you get from the original Nexus 6. For the difference in price I would go to the Nexus 6 and wait until next year to see if the upgrade is a better deal than what you can get this year.
alryder said:
As an owner of the original Nexus 6 I personally don't think it is worth the extra money to go to the Nexus 6P. The minimal gains with the 6P are offset by the losses that you get from the original Nexus 6. For the difference in price I would go to the Nexus 6 and wait until next year to see if the upgrade is a better deal than what you can get this year.
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That's my train of thought, thanks for the input man.
How has your experience been with the screen? I've seen firsthand just how bad it can be worst case scenario, but are burn on images and pink screens really that common?
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That's my train of thought, thanks for the input man.
How has your experience been with the screen? I've seen firsthand just how bad it can be worst case scenario, but are burn on images and pink screens really that common?
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My experience with the screen has been great. I haven't had any burn-in problems and no pink screens. I am really satisfied with the display of the original Nexus 6.
The AMOLED screen is sourced from Samsung by Motorola, if I remember correctly. Any concerns with tinting can be easily ameliorated with a custom kernel. (I'm biased towards a warm color temperature as i like cinema calibrations on all my devices, monitors included, and even I made this screen's color temperature more neutral)
As for the 6P, I would read how Qualcomm solved the 810's overheating issue with "version 2.1" - - by underclocking and then neutering the excess cores with thermal strangling. Octacore? Ha! Is it really 8 cores if you can only ever use 4? (only a mild exaggeration on my part)
I had a OnePlus Two and the 2015 Moto x pure. I got rid of both for this Nexus 6... Which will last until a value 820-based device drops next year
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reaper000 said:
The AMOLED screen is sourced from Samsung by Motorola, if I remember correctly. Any concerns with tinting can be easily ameliorated with a custom kernel. (I'm biased towards a warm color temperature as i like cinema calibrations on all my devices, monitors included, and even I made this screen's color temperature more neutral)
As for the 6P, I would read how Qualcomm solved the 810's overheating issue with "version 2.1" - - by underclocking and then neutering the excess cores with thermal strangling. Octacore? Ha! Is it really 8 cores if you can only ever use 4? (only a mild exaggeration on my part)
I had a OnePlus Two and the 2015 Moto x pure. I got rid of both for this Nexus 6... Which will last until a value 820-based device drops next year
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I'm primarily concerned with potential for burn on imaging. I'm not huge into custom roms or anything like that so I'd likely be using just stock android on whatever I go with.
I've decided that I'm either going to get the Moto x Pure or the Nexus 6/6P.
The Moto x Pure has an IPS panel, which you can't really go wrong with. No rich vivid colors, but the LCD on my m7 has been nothing but satisfactory. Even if AMOLED boasts richer colors and blacker blacks, I'd be leery to adopt the Nexus 6/6P because of potential burn on imaging and/or off tones.
Even in person, the Nexus 6 has a visibly pink display. I'd hate to have that issue develop even after a year of use. My M7 has a display just as crisp and bright as day one, albeit it's just your average LCD.
The pic is a Nexus 6 to the left and a Moto x Pure to the right and is representative of my experience with the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 has a visibly pinker and somewhat more dim screen. Spec to spec, the Nexus 6 is only a bit better than the Moto x Pure. This may be something that effects only one in every so many Nexus 6, but it really puts me off to it.
Won't me post a direct link, so for those of you who want to see the two side by side, here
imgur DOT COM /L6tkitl
Also, expandable storage seems awesome.
pcdg said:
I'm primarily concerned with potential for burn on imaging. I'm not huge into custom roms or anything like that so I'd likely be using just stock android on whatever I go with.
I've decided that I'm either going to get the Moto x Pure or the Nexus 6/6P.
The Moto x Pure has an IPS panel, which you can't really go wrong with. No rich vivid colors, but the LCD on my m7 has been nothing but satisfactory. Even if AMOLED boasts richer colors and blacker blacks, I'd be leery to adopt the Nexus 6/6P because of potential burn on imaging and/or off tones.
Even in person, the Nexus 6 has a visibly pink display. I'd hate to have that issue develop even after a year of use. My M7 has a display just as crisp and bright as day one, albeit it's just your average LCD.
The pic is a Nexus 6 to the left and a Moto x Pure to the right and is representative of my experience with the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 has a visibly pinker and somewhat more dim screen. Spec to spec, the Nexus 6 is only a bit better than the Moto x Pure. This may be something that effects only one in every so many Nexus 6, but it really puts me off to it.
Won't me post a direct link, so for those of you who want to see the two side by side, here
imgur DOT COM /L6tkitl
Also, expandable storage seems awesome.
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Actually, I would spec the 808 marginally, theoretically ABOVE the 805, though it would likely be equivalent in the real world. And if you don't flash ROMs, a 16gb X pure is perfectly acceptable given its expandable memory.
Honestly, the Moto X pure is a terrific machine at $399USD, and it sounds like it would match your personal criteria inasmuch as it would not match mine. I was not willing to pay over $500 for an 810 processor, but that's just me and my scrooginess. Different strokes for different folks, right?
Have fun with your choice!
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Better buy the MXP and see yourself why most of its owners return it for a Nexus6. Ips lcd is nothing worth to compare to amoled 1440p of n6. Motorola's track record for updates are joke. They dont give a smallest damn about their customers. Their updates are even slower than LG.
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This is my 2nd Nexus 6 (first one I sent back to Motorola after it took a bad fall from my car), and I've never had any of the screen issues you're talking about. Personally, I like the Nexus 6 due to the ease of use and huge community support it has here on XDA. I'm also a massive flashaholic and can't go a week on the same ROM without having to switch, and you can find just about any flavor you like here. Coming from a Device like the M7, I think I'd definitely go with the N6 and try a dip in the custom pool. Either way, root and Xposed are a must because anything that you don't like about the N6 stock (which shouldn't be much) you'll be able to change with Gravity Box, a build.prop edit, or a custom kernel.
If you're that worried about the screen and absolutely opposed to the custom scene here at XDA, I'd go ahead and stick with the Moto X. However, I'd say ROMs like Chroma, Cataclysm, Benzo, xTraSmooth, and Dirty Unicorns are worth buying this device for.
Just my two cents, dude.
I just got my Nexus 6 64 white. I love it. I would get the 6 over the 6p for the slightly larger screen. 5.96 vs 5.7. Wireless Qi charging, not on the 6p. Motorola built. Better community support. OSI camera. The 6 also has Motorola's nanocoating protection. (I wouldn't do it but there is a YouTube video of a 6 that was left in water for an hour. Was just fine afterwards.) The 6 could well be the better of the 2.
Lastly, you can update to Marshmallow NOW !!!!! (I literally took mine out of the box new and updated to Marshmallow via computer flash.) Marshmallow will roll out to your device via OTA if you don't want to flash.