Hey everyone, this is my first post so if I'm not posting in the correct area, I apologize for that.
For the past two+ years I've been using verizon's HTC One M7. It's been a great phone save for the fact that it's exceedingly difficult to debloat. This particular model is loaded down with verizon crapware and there's no easy way to root/unlock the bootloader. I digress
I'm in the market for a new phone. I've decided to ditch my carrier's phones and go unlocked. I want a stock android experience that isn't too locked down by the OEM, so I've opted to get a nexus device.
I'm torn as to whether or not I should get the Nexus 6 right now or wait another month or so for the Nexus 6p. As well as my M7 has served me, it is beginning to show it's age, I'm really hankering to get a new device asap. Part of me says that the 6P is only a marginal upgrade from the 6, and is 150 more expensive for the 64gb model so I wouldn't be losing much by getting it. The other part of me says that I've been using this phone for over two years, and another month won't kill me.
Anyway, I'm looking for input. I'd be more confident getting a Nexus 6 but the demo model I played with had this sickeningly salmon-tinted screen that was also visibly more dim than the panel on my M7. I've heard it's a "feature" but it seems more like a defect to me. I've heard the pinkness only shows up in some models, as does burn on imaging, but I really would have to hate to send the phone in to get it fixed. Anyone have any experience with the salmon colored screens on the Nexus 6?
Edit: After a bit of research, I've heard that burn in images are more common in AMOLED displays, so I'm worried this problem may be carried over the the 6P. This doesn't make much sense because I haven't heard of this issue occurring in other devices using AMOLED displays such as those put out by Samsung. Could this be a Motorola AMOLED problem, or is this something all AMOLED screens are subject to?
Anyone here have any input? Thanks.
As an owner of the original Nexus 6 I personally don't think it is worth the extra money to go to the Nexus 6P. The minimal gains with the 6P are offset by the losses that you get from the original Nexus 6. For the difference in price I would go to the Nexus 6 and wait until next year to see if the upgrade is a better deal than what you can get this year.
alryder said:
As an owner of the original Nexus 6 I personally don't think it is worth the extra money to go to the Nexus 6P. The minimal gains with the 6P are offset by the losses that you get from the original Nexus 6. For the difference in price I would go to the Nexus 6 and wait until next year to see if the upgrade is a better deal than what you can get this year.
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That's my train of thought, thanks for the input man.
How has your experience been with the screen? I've seen firsthand just how bad it can be worst case scenario, but are burn on images and pink screens really that common?
pcdg said:
That's my train of thought, thanks for the input man.
How has your experience been with the screen? I've seen firsthand just how bad it can be worst case scenario, but are burn on images and pink screens really that common?
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My experience with the screen has been great. I haven't had any burn-in problems and no pink screens. I am really satisfied with the display of the original Nexus 6.
The AMOLED screen is sourced from Samsung by Motorola, if I remember correctly. Any concerns with tinting can be easily ameliorated with a custom kernel. (I'm biased towards a warm color temperature as i like cinema calibrations on all my devices, monitors included, and even I made this screen's color temperature more neutral)
As for the 6P, I would read how Qualcomm solved the 810's overheating issue with "version 2.1" - - by underclocking and then neutering the excess cores with thermal strangling. Octacore? Ha! Is it really 8 cores if you can only ever use 4? (only a mild exaggeration on my part)
I had a OnePlus Two and the 2015 Moto x pure. I got rid of both for this Nexus 6... Which will last until a value 820-based device drops next year
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The AMOLED screen is sourced from Samsung by Motorola, if I remember correctly. Any concerns with tinting can be easily ameliorated with a custom kernel. (I'm biased towards a warm color temperature as i like cinema calibrations on all my devices, monitors included, and even I made this screen's color temperature more neutral)
As for the 6P, I would read how Qualcomm solved the 810's overheating issue with "version 2.1" - - by underclocking and then neutering the excess cores with thermal strangling. Octacore? Ha! Is it really 8 cores if you can only ever use 4? (only a mild exaggeration on my part)
I had a OnePlus Two and the 2015 Moto x pure. I got rid of both for this Nexus 6... Which will last until a value 820-based device drops next year
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I'm primarily concerned with potential for burn on imaging. I'm not huge into custom roms or anything like that so I'd likely be using just stock android on whatever I go with.
I've decided that I'm either going to get the Moto x Pure or the Nexus 6/6P.
The Moto x Pure has an IPS panel, which you can't really go wrong with. No rich vivid colors, but the LCD on my m7 has been nothing but satisfactory. Even if AMOLED boasts richer colors and blacker blacks, I'd be leery to adopt the Nexus 6/6P because of potential burn on imaging and/or off tones.
Even in person, the Nexus 6 has a visibly pink display. I'd hate to have that issue develop even after a year of use. My M7 has a display just as crisp and bright as day one, albeit it's just your average LCD.
The pic is a Nexus 6 to the left and a Moto x Pure to the right and is representative of my experience with the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 has a visibly pinker and somewhat more dim screen. Spec to spec, the Nexus 6 is only a bit better than the Moto x Pure. This may be something that effects only one in every so many Nexus 6, but it really puts me off to it.
Won't me post a direct link, so for those of you who want to see the two side by side, here
imgur DOT COM /L6tkitl
Also, expandable storage seems awesome.
pcdg said:
I'm primarily concerned with potential for burn on imaging. I'm not huge into custom roms or anything like that so I'd likely be using just stock android on whatever I go with.
I've decided that I'm either going to get the Moto x Pure or the Nexus 6/6P.
The Moto x Pure has an IPS panel, which you can't really go wrong with. No rich vivid colors, but the LCD on my m7 has been nothing but satisfactory. Even if AMOLED boasts richer colors and blacker blacks, I'd be leery to adopt the Nexus 6/6P because of potential burn on imaging and/or off tones.
Even in person, the Nexus 6 has a visibly pink display. I'd hate to have that issue develop even after a year of use. My M7 has a display just as crisp and bright as day one, albeit it's just your average LCD.
The pic is a Nexus 6 to the left and a Moto x Pure to the right and is representative of my experience with the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 has a visibly pinker and somewhat more dim screen. Spec to spec, the Nexus 6 is only a bit better than the Moto x Pure. This may be something that effects only one in every so many Nexus 6, but it really puts me off to it.
Won't me post a direct link, so for those of you who want to see the two side by side, here
imgur DOT COM /L6tkitl
Also, expandable storage seems awesome.
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Actually, I would spec the 808 marginally, theoretically ABOVE the 805, though it would likely be equivalent in the real world. And if you don't flash ROMs, a 16gb X pure is perfectly acceptable given its expandable memory.
Honestly, the Moto X pure is a terrific machine at $399USD, and it sounds like it would match your personal criteria inasmuch as it would not match mine. I was not willing to pay over $500 for an 810 processor, but that's just me and my scrooginess. Different strokes for different folks, right?
Have fun with your choice!
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Better buy the MXP and see yourself why most of its owners return it for a Nexus6. Ips lcd is nothing worth to compare to amoled 1440p of n6. Motorola's track record for updates are joke. They dont give a smallest damn about their customers. Their updates are even slower than LG.
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This is my 2nd Nexus 6 (first one I sent back to Motorola after it took a bad fall from my car), and I've never had any of the screen issues you're talking about. Personally, I like the Nexus 6 due to the ease of use and huge community support it has here on XDA. I'm also a massive flashaholic and can't go a week on the same ROM without having to switch, and you can find just about any flavor you like here. Coming from a Device like the M7, I think I'd definitely go with the N6 and try a dip in the custom pool. Either way, root and Xposed are a must because anything that you don't like about the N6 stock (which shouldn't be much) you'll be able to change with Gravity Box, a build.prop edit, or a custom kernel.
If you're that worried about the screen and absolutely opposed to the custom scene here at XDA, I'd go ahead and stick with the Moto X. However, I'd say ROMs like Chroma, Cataclysm, Benzo, xTraSmooth, and Dirty Unicorns are worth buying this device for.
Just my two cents, dude.
I just got my Nexus 6 64 white. I love it. I would get the 6 over the 6p for the slightly larger screen. 5.96 vs 5.7. Wireless Qi charging, not on the 6p. Motorola built. Better community support. OSI camera. The 6 also has Motorola's nanocoating protection. (I wouldn't do it but there is a YouTube video of a 6 that was left in water for an hour. Was just fine afterwards.) The 6 could well be the better of the 2.
Lastly, you can update to Marshmallow NOW !!!!! (I literally took mine out of the box new and updated to Marshmallow via computer flash.) Marshmallow will roll out to your device via OTA if you don't want to flash.
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I was holding out to get the Nexus 6 when it came out. But at almost 6 inches that is just way way to big for me. So I was looking at the pure edition Moto X for Tmobile. In terms of camera and screen how to they compare to the N5? And I assume that the Moto X will get updates just about as fast as Nexus devices or close to it. The main thing is I wanted a bigger screen something like 5.2 to 5.5.
If the main thing you want is that slightly larger screen then the x is for you
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The nexus 5 radios, camera, and speaker are crap too (I'm typing on mine now). I can't take a video (won't focus) or non blurry picture of my son in his room even during the day.
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I was holding out to get the Nexus 6 when it came out. But at almost 6 inches that is just way way to big for me. So I was looking at the pure edition Moto X for Tmobile. In terms of camera and screen how to they compare to the N5? And I assume that the Moto X will get updates just about as fast as Nexus devices or close to it. The main thing is I wanted a bigger screen something like 5.2 to 5.5.
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We do not know the Nexus 6 is a 6" phone screen, that is just one rumor. I do not think Google will go with a 6" screen, because then it isnt really a phone and the Nexus line is all about what Google thinks the Android phone market standard should be for this year. They wont try to make the standard 6" screens.
I have just ordered my Moto X after much deliberation. I love my Nexus 5, is been a great phone, fantastic display, nice size and worked flawlessly, I genuinely thought I would I would always buy Nexus, however 6" is just too big, 5.2" is even bigger than I would like. I think I will miss the development side of things most, I have always rooted my phones and benefitted from all the advantages that gave, however it would appear unless I want to forgo my warranty, that won't be happening with the X, that said who knows with Android L when it comes out, it may not be even possible, or at least as easy as it once was.
So why did I do it? Why buy the X? Well, great as the Nexus 5 is, it's a bit nuts and bolts, great developers phone, but not as polished as a users phone. I am looking forward to the amoled screen, which I know aren't everyone's cup of tea, but the contract ratio and the way the colours jump out at you, I like that. If the X is as fast as the 5, I think I will be happy.
You will experience great signal/voice quality, better than most other phones.
The camera on the MotoX is adequate for good lighting, but terrible in low light situation, this can be fixed by enabling HDR mode which greatly help with reducing grains and improve details.
AMOLED screens have it's benefit, but color accuracy isn't it. It will be very saturated, but it have better contrast, better viewing angle, and deeper black which I love.
There are many other aspects that is better like speaker, overall design and the unique Moto features that make it much more useful than a bare bone Nexus. While the Moto X 2014 battery is not great, you should get slightly better battery life compared to the Nexus 5.
I used to be a heavy flasher, but since using the Moto X 2013 I stopped rooting.
Hello!
My first thread there but long time follower of this forum.
I know that we don't have any reviews of the Nexus 6 yet (well nothing substantial enough anyway) and I'm not sure when we will get these, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any point in getting the Nexus 6 when you can potentially get the Note 4 Developer Edition? Same specs overall, slightly smaller screen, potentially better cameras, slimmer.
2. I saw some posts about this before but my question is more specific: Assuming the Nexus 6 gets the previous generation of Samsung's screen (like the Note 3/GS4) - will it have any tweaks to bring it up to scratch? Surely they wont just use the old tech and extend the size of the screen & bump resolution will they? If they did that wouldn't the screen still maintain the same issues as before (low brightness, not as vidid colours etc)? I'm curious to see how the screen really performs IF it is the old tech. I do not think there is any chance at all that the Nexus 6 will use the same screen as the Note 4. This is a Moto phone after all...not a Samsung flagship.
3. Without the advanced camera tech (in regards to shutter speed etc) included in the G3 and iPhone 6+, do you think that the Nexus 6 will be noticeably slower at taking pictures compared with other phones? I see much discussion on this but ultimately this core question has no clear answers (I guess we'll have to wait for reviews but Im asking anyway; I've not seen many good reviewers on shutter speed. E.g. back when the Galaxy Nexus was released I read it was "super super fast" at taking pictures...it takes from 1 to 3 seconds to snap now).
4. At over 1cm thick and with such a large display how solid is this phone expected to be if it is dropped? Im not familiar with Moto phones but if I drop a Galaxy in normal use the screen is usually fine and there is not much more than scratches. I dropped my Nexus 5 on its back once and the entire front of the screen was destroyed. Just curious about the build quality and what is expected here - I've read mixed things about Moto quality so far.
5. If I shell out for two Nexus 6 phones now (yes I need two; one for me and one for my girlfriend) do you think that they will be good for 2 years of use? Or would it be wiser to purchase two Nexus 5 devices now and upgrade to the Nexus '7' phone (or whatever it will be) next year? I ask because this is still 32bit and we are on the cusp of a new era of 64bit Android phones. I feel like the Nexus 6 (while up to date now) will be significantly outpaced (more than usual) come this time next year. I just don't want to be caught out.
Thank you for your time reading my post; happy to hear any kinds of answers
Regards
M
spartanm99 said:
Hello!
My first thread there but long time follower of this forum.
I know that we don't have any reviews of the Nexus 6 yet (well nothing substantial enough anyway) and I'm not sure when we will get these, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any point in getting the Nexus 6 when you can potentially get the Note 4 Developer Edition? Same specs overall, slightly smaller screen, potentially better cameras, slimmer.
2. I saw some posts about this before but my question is more specific: Assuming the Nexus 6 gets the previous generation of Samsung's screen (like the Note 3/GS4) - will it have any tweaks to bring it up to scratch? Surely they wont just use the old tech and extend the size of the screen & bump resolution will they? If they did that wouldn't the screen still maintain the same issues as before (low brightness, not as vidid colours etc)? I'm curious to see how the screen really performs IF it is the old tech. I do not think there is any chance at all that the Nexus 6 will use the same screen as the Note 4. This is a Moto phone after all...not a Samsung flagship.
3. Without the advanced camera tech (in regards to shutter speed etc) included in the G3 and iPhone 6+, do you think that the Nexus 6 will be noticeably slower at taking pictures compared with other phones? I see much discussion on this but ultimately this core question has no clear answers (I guess we'll have to wait for reviews but Im asking anyway; I've not seen many good reviewers on shutter speed. E.g. back when the Galaxy Nexus was released I read it was "super super fast" at taking pictures...it takes from 1 to 3 seconds to snap now).
4. At over 1cm thick and with such a large display how solid is this phone expected to be if it is dropped? Im not familiar with Moto phones but if I drop a Galaxy in normal use the screen is usually fine and there is not much more than scratches. I dropped my Nexus 5 on its back once and the entire front of the screen was destroyed. Just curious about the build quality and what is expected here - I've read mixed things about Moto quality so far.
5. If I shell out for two Nexus 6 phones now (yes I need two; one for me and one for my girlfriend) do you think that they will be good for 2 years of use? Or would it be wiser to purchase two Nexus 5 devices now and upgrade to the Nexus '7' phone (or whatever it will be) next year? I ask because this is still 32bit and we are on the cusp of a new era of 64bit Android phones. I feel like the Nexus 6 (while up to date now) will be significantly outpaced (more than usual) come this time next year. I just don't want to be caught out.
Thank you for your time reading my post; happy to hear any kinds of answers
Regards
M
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Welcome to XDA and may I say an excellent first post !!
1. It depends on what you feel about a physical home button, and what rom you want to run. Running Samsung's software means you won't get pure Android, and running Android means you'll have to give up multi-window, stylus etc. But you would in both cases have removable battery, sd card and an amazing screen. Nexus 6 can't match the first two.
2. Chances of screen matching the Note 4 are very low, but it is a premium device and should use a nice panel with few compromises
3. The camera should be better, the hands on from Verge even commented on it and it seemed pretty fast in the video. The sensor is not the same as Note 4 but it does have better low light performance.
4. Dropping a phone can have wildly different results based on angle. Moto phones have good build quality
5. Its your decision, are you willing to buy 2 N6's, and next year sell and upgrade to the next Nexus? Will you be on contract? You can get one N5 and one N6 to cover both bases.
A lot of your questions will get answered once reviews come out in a few weeks. But if you feel an unholy lust for the phone like some of us do then there really is no decision to be made and its already decided
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Welcome to XDA and may I say an excellent first post !!
1. It depends on what you feel about a physical home button, and what rom you want to run. Running Samsung's software means you won't get pure Android, and running Android means you'll have to give up multi-window, stylus etc. But you would in both cases have removable battery, sd card and an amazing screen. Nexus 6 can't match the first two.
2. Chances of screen matching the Note 4 are very low, but it is a premium device and should use a nice panel with few compromises
3. The camera should be better, the hands on from Verge even commented on it and it seemed pretty fast in the video. The sensor is not the same as Note 4 but it does have better low light performance.
4. Dropping a phone can have wildly different results based on angle. Moto phones have good build quality
5. Its your decision, are you willing to buy 2 N6's, and next year sell and upgrade to the next Nexus? Will you be on contract? You can get one N5 and one N6 to cover both bases.
A lot of your questions will get answered once reviews come out in a few weeks. But if you feel an unholy lust for the phone like some of us do then there really is no decision to be made and its already decided
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Thank you so much for the response I appreciate it
You've made some good points and thanks for the input on the Moto phone quality. I might consider getting 1 N6 for my girlfriend and I might get a replacement N5 (currently we both do have any good phones to use to last us another year.); both would be off contract of course as we are in Australia (purchase directly from Google or Moto unlocked).
I guess I'll have my fingers crossed for a detailed review (or two) to be released just before the presale opens.
Do you have the option of purchasing phones from Xiaomi, Oppo etc in Australia? They make some great phones at very good prices, just a suggestion. I personally am a big fan of Xiaomi due to their MIUI rom.
Oppo are about to announce the N3 so worth watching for
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ECrispy said:
Do you have the option of purchasing phones from Xiaomi, Oppo etc in Australia? They make some great phones at very good prices, just a suggestion. I personally am a big fan of Xiaomi due to their MIUI rom.
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I've never heard of the Xiaomi before but I will look into that thank you! I'm not sure if we have the option to get it here; I've heard of the Oppo but I've never seen one before. I must do some research on this phone too.
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Oppo are about to announce the N3 so worth watching for
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Thanks for this info - I'll have a look at it!
Would anyone here be able to assist me with info on the Xiaomi and other Chinese phones & the quality?
I've looked into the advice in this thread and I've come across an upcoming phone - Vivo PD1305 (specs below).
Questions:
- Are the build quality on these kinds of phones comparable to the Nexus 6/Galaxy series?
- Are the screens comparable to the N6/Galaxy series?
- What about the cameras, radios & sound?
I'm just not sure but the specs on the phone I've mentioned are extremely impressive and what (in my opinion) the Nexus 6 SHOULD have included. Also the price is about $300 cheaper than the Nexus 6 (in Australia).
Specs:
Snapdragon 805
3 gig RAM
6 inch 1440x2560 QHD Display
32gb memory (expandable up to 128gig)
158mm x 81mm x 5.68mm in size
162 grams
An amazing 1.8 16mp rear camera with dual LED Flash
An impressive 8mp front facing camera with LED Flash
Stereo speakers
Fingerprint scanner
3,600 - 4,000mh battery
Price: (AUD equivalent) = $580 outright, unlocked.
spartanm99 said:
Would anyone here be able to assist me with info on the Xiaomi and other Chinese phones & the quality?
I've looked into the advice in this thread and I've come across an upcoming phone - Vivo PD1305 (specs below).
Questions:
- Are the build quality on these kinds of phones comparable to the Nexus 6/Galaxy series?
- Are the screens comparable to the N6/Galaxy series?
- What about the cameras, radios & sound?
I'm just not sure but the specs on the phone I've mentioned are extremely impressive and what (in my opinion) the Nexus 6 SHOULD have included. Also the price is about $300 cheaper than the Nexus 6 (in Australia).
Specs:
Snapdragon 805
3 gig RAM
6 inch 1440x2560 QHD Display
32gb memory (expandable up to 128gig)
158mm x 81mm x 5.68mm in size
162 grams
An amazing 1.8 16mp rear camera with dual LED Flash
An impressive 8mp front facing camera with LED Flash
Stereo speakers
Fingerprint scanner
3,600 - 4,000mh battery
Price: (AUD equivalent) = $580 outright, unlocked.
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Hell, while we are at it why not include direct SAT communications and free HW upgrades for life?
There is a difference between dream and reality. One is the one we are living in now, the other is where I can dream up a fusion reactor battery and antigrav stability for drop protection. Just be damn grateful we are getting a Nexus at all this year considering how likely Silver was and how likely ARA might be taking Nexus over next year.
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Hell, while we are at it why not include direct SAT communications and free HW upgrades for life?
There is a difference between dream and reality. One is the one we are living in now, the other is where I can dream up a fusion reactor battery and antigrav stability for drop protection. Just be damn grateful we are getting a Nexus at all this year considering how likely Silver was and how likely ARA might be taking Nexus over next year.
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No need for sarcasm as the specs for the phone that I posted are pretty legitimate sounding, and some sources claim 100% real. Also looking at their previous model (nearly a year old) as well as the current (and upcoming) competition in China - the specs I posted for the above phone are not only possible, but will very likely exist before the Nexus 6 is but a few months old.
These Chinese manufacturers are progressing far faster than the Nexus series (or many other Android phones) have ever done. Under 6mm thick, 3500mh+ battery, Snapdragon 805+ processor, 3gb RAM+, QHD 6" screen etc is totally within reason on the latest Chinese manufacturer phones.
Hopefully i'm not alone on an island when I say that the Nexus 6 is just too large for me. If i wanted a phablet, there are other alternatives. Having said that i was just curious what the future of Nexus is going to be? I suppose it's way too early to know, but just wanted to put my mind at ease because ever since the latest release, I'm really at a loss as to what my next phone purchase will be?
We now have the Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, nexus 7, Nexus 9, Nexus 10? Will they refresh the current screen sizes with newer hardware? I really hope so cause screen size is the biggest factor now for me in terms of buying a nexus. If the nexus 4 had a refresh, i would have totally gone with that. Thoughts anyone?
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Hopefully i'm not alone on an island when I say that the Nexus 6 is just too large for me. If i wanted a phablet, there are other alternatives. Having said that i was just curious what the future of Nexus is going to be? I suppose it's way too early to know, but just wanted to put my mind at ease because ever since the latest release, I'm really at a loss as to what my next phone purchase will be?
We now have the Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, nexus 7, Nexus 9, Nexus 10? Will they refresh the current screen sizes with newer hardware? I really hope so cause screen size is the biggest factor now for me in terms of buying a nexus. If the nexus 4 had a refresh, i would have totally gone with that. Thoughts anyone?
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If you're looking for your next phone, I HIGHLY recommend the new Moto X. Gorgeous and powerful hardware, stock Android with a few actually useful and innovative additions, and it's sold for a great price. I have both the N5 and Moto X and the X is an upgrade in every way, and IMO is the spiritual successor to the N5.
After not being able to get N6 64gb the last 3 weeks & playing with one at a tmobile store, I've decided its too big! My Nexus5 is still rocken for now. I'll be watching S810 device's announcements at CES Jan. 5, 2015. Maybe a Sony Xperia Z4/Z4 Ultra, M9 or other newly branded devices. Thin frame, stereo front speakers, 5.5 to 5.7 screen, unlockable, etc are my preferences...
rogerchew said:
Hopefully i'm not alone on an island when I say that the Nexus 6 is just too large for me. If i wanted a phablet, there are other alternatives.
Having said that i was just curious what the future of Nexus is going to be?
If the nexus 4 had a refresh, i would have totally gone with that. Thoughts anyone?
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Nah. Last year, I wanted at least a 5" 1080p display. Nexus 5 was close enough.
Agreed the NEXUS 6 is too large. Not the display, the entire phone. Anything larger than the LG G3 is too big for a phone, for me.
This year I wanted at least 5.2" 1440p (preferably the size of the LG G2) with Snapdragon 805. As late as mid-August Google was testing a 5.2" 1440p with Snapdragon 805 to be the NEXUS 6. But instead they they stupidly went with the monstrosity, and let Motorola release the 5.2" version as the Moto Maxx/Droid Turbo.
So in getting the Moto Maxx in spite of the silly capacitive buttons.
I'll have to check out the Motorola phones then, but the goal really for me is something smaller than 5 inches, but a "nexus" device for the fast updates.
Yea I'm in the same boat. The N6 is insanely big especially for my hands and there's really nothing that stands out about it besides fast updates. Now that it's nearly twice as much its put itself in a completely new category against the note 4 which literally destroys it in every way besides the front speakers and updates (I also prefer no buttons but since the galaxy phone home buttons are now fingerprint scanners it doesn't seem as bad) and I don't ever use the speaker in the phone besides occasionally showing a friend a YouTube vid or notifications. I'm between a note 4 and just keeping my n5 until s810s start popping up.
all the reviews for the Moto X (2014) cite a mediocre battery life and hit or miss camera results. Those are literally the two things holding back the N5.
Exactly. The Moto X could have been the top phone on the market but they failed on battery and cam. So I'm leaning toward the Droid Turbo, but I'm still not sold on it. The size is tolerable (N5 seems just right. N6 is ridiculous) and battery isn't as good as they claim but still far better than N5. Camera, I'm not sure. Mixed reviews I think.
Is the moto x even an upgrade in any area? The software seems to be what people like. The hardware is basically the same in every day use as a nexus 5 isn't it?
Nexus 6 is too big for hands, that's for sure. No way you're going to one-hand that with a cup of coffee in the other and still slide your metrocard to get on the subway. And forget about getting that thing into your pocket.
Why did they ruin our Nexus? And why are they charging twice as much? I'm actually very sad about all of this. Now I'm stuck with deciding between the Moto X and the Droid Turbo. Sucks.
You know what? I'm just gonna keep my Nexus 5. This phone rocks. Google just sent me a free refurb replacement, and with Lollipop, it feels like I have a brand new phone.
Nexus 5 is still a great smartphone and still a superb buy, even this time next year it still be decent and rocking with whatever latest Android is by then, plus hopefully Google will see sense and go back to a 5" or 5.2" screen & give either HTC or Sony a bash at a Nexus Smartphone, or better still have 2 Nexus Smartphones Phablet and standard to keep everybody happy.
I was very very close to getting a moto x, but after flashing lollipop, my Nexus was like a brand new device and I decided I would stick with it for a bit.
Then I was lucky enough to get an invite for the oneplus the other day and it is expected to arrive this weekend. We will still if that is a worth successor without being too big.
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For now, I'll keep using the Nexus 5, although I initially wanted to buy the Nexus 6.
Unfortunately, the significant price increase (Nex 6 costs about 300 EUR more than a Nex 5 in the German Play Store) forced me to do the decision not to buy it. I primarily need a good developer phone, and 650 EUR for the Nex 6 is just waaaay to much money.
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I'm holding out to see what Samsung and HTC do in the spring. GS6 and M9. Nothing from this year impresses me. Scratch that... Note 4 hardware is impressive, but TouchWiz still kills it, as always.
I'm waiting for project ara.… .
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Probably gonna wait for the nexus release next year. Price is way too high for a nexus 6. I'm good with a 5.in fact I bought a used one about a month ago and it's still a very fantastic phone for its price. I'm kicking myself now for not buying it 1year earlier.
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LG G3 with cyanogenmod for the win phone has the right hardware, size, removable battery , now we just need the right ROM. Until then I'll stick to the N5.
I was wanting the Xperia Z3, but ****ing Sony and their DRM removal when you unlock the bootloader... the camera turns to **** and the modem/radio doesn't even work when you unlock the bootloader! I'm watching the Note 4.
My first Nexus device was the Nexus 4. I loved the quick updates but the battery life was pathetic and it seemed to age quite quickly. I then moved to a Samsung Galaxy S4 but got annoyed over the slow updates around November 2014, I purchased the Nexus 5 and I have been really happy with it. Battery life still isn't that great (although much better than the Nexus 4) but the quick updates are amazing. It's also aged really well and still running reasonably ok. I wasn't keen on the Nexus 6 as this is far too big but I am now starting to think of what phone I should get to replace the Nexus 5.
What phones are you all considering? The obvious choice seems to be to wait for the next Nexus phone but I'm not sure if they'd keep in line with the Nexus 5 or 6 (they might do both). Plus, it'd be quite a few months away so in the meantime I was thinking of the LG G4 as LG seem to be quite good with updates.
Thoughts and suggestions?
N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.
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Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.
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Still didn't change their bad behave, you will never believe the cost down of their product. Company like sharp and HTC will tight control everything use in their product down to rev., sometime it may down to specific batch and have a quite large margin for the design. For average user you won't notice anything, but if you take a look at the circuit you may wonder by their miracle.
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I do not agree. It is my opinion that HTC is not the same, and does not have the same quality that they did years ago. It is also my opinion that Samsung devices have seriously gone down in quality.
For power users like us, we desire top of the line devices. We expect them to perform to a standard that the average user does not.
For the average user who just needs to check email and receive MMS picture messages of their grandkids, cheap Chinese phones can't be beat. If you want more, then yeah you have to pay more and buy from a bigger named company.
I´m also happy with my Nexus 5 and this device is still one of the best around, in terms of performance.
If I were you, I would wait a few months for the next Nexus device to be released. Who knows, maybe Google will release a Nexus 5 ( 2015 ) or a slightly smaller Nexus 6 ( 2015 ) ?
Its nice to have a new phone every now and again, but I would wait a while to see what happens with the next Nexus phone; it might just make you fall in love with the Nexus family again.
I think they will make a smaller Nexus phone this year. I'd like a 5.5 or 5.2in device with thin bezels.
I just wish it would be small enough (5") and has a better camera hardware (Nexus 5's is quite a bit lacking).
Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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Ok you convinced me, patience is a virtue after all I'm sure the next Nexus would be awesome, I really don't like the direction they went with the Nexus 6 but rumours say that this was originally part of the Android Silver program (or whatever it was called) and it was only switched back to a Nexus phone last minute. Anyway, fingers crossed that the next Nexus is as awesome (or more so) than the Nexus 5 and equally good value for money.
I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though
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I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though
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If the next Nexus is released in October then I think we're due for some major rumour/leaks about now. The feature at the top of my wishlist for the phone is a very large battery with some serious battery optimisation. Together creating a phone that exceptional run time far more than anything else on the market.
The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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This was my thinking with the LG G4 because the line of phones has stood the test of time. The LG G2 was released over a year and a half ago but it's still holding up well and LG are still supporting it with Lollipop (although it takes a while for the update to reach the phone). Something tells me the LG G4 could easily be supported for 2 years if not more. However, although the battery is around 3000mAh, it doesn't have amazing battery life. Much better than the Nexus 5 and would easily take most through the whole day but I'm really thinking that a phone that can easily take most people through 48 hours is a new standard that should be strived by manufacturers.
The s6 is tempting for me. I'd be gutted if nexus realesed a beast though. Can't beat pure android.
I owned a Nexus 6 for a couple months. I never liked the size and couldn't get used to it. I also hated the shape of the phone. It was not stable laying a desk. Surprisingly, I use my phone one handed while it lays on a desk a lot to send texts. That weird curved back wobbles and spins if you try to use it one handed like that. I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
I have switched back to my Nexus 5 and sold the 6 and am so much happier. I know now that I never want a phone larger than the Nexus 5. I am also on Sprint which makes buying a non-carrier phone virtually impossible. Basically I am stuck hoping the Nexus 5 refresh is small or keeping an eye on something like the Galaxy S6/HTC M9 AOSP custom rom scene which I really don't want to mess around with.
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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
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..I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
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We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.
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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.
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I too dont have a camera, but really phones cant substitute real camera. The only devices which are close are lg g4 and galaxy s6, but these devices are flagships, i dont think you will see that kind of camera on nexus phone because.. Well, its a nexus. If they make it a budget phone again, im sure you wont get that great camera. But maybe google surprises us.
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Hi!
I have a Nexus 6 since day one. Love the phone but I've always thought that it would fit me better if it would have a 5.5/5.7 inch screen.
A second hand Nexus 6 is almost the same price as a new Moto X style so i might sell it and use my old phone till the Moto release date.
Differences:
Nexus 6 has a Snapdragon 805 and AMOLED screen.
Moto X has a Snapdragon 808 and TFT screen.
Size
Front facing camera flash on Moto
Dissadvantages for the Nexus 6 for me are:
- Size
- Screen isn't really bright (compared to other phones), and almost unreadable in the direct sun. More Nits would be cool.
- Heavy at the top (phone feels better in my hand if I turn it upside down). Not sure how this is with the Moto X.
Should I sell the Nexus 6 and go for the Moto X Style? Not sure about the 808 and the TFT.
Turn on High Brightness feature on Nexus 6 and voila, you see perfect outside.
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Turn on High Brightness feature on Nexus 6 and voila, you see perfect outside.
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What is this feature if I may ask? I always put the brightness to max when i'm outside. It only gets unreadable when there is a lot of sunlight. I Googled it and it seemed that the Nexus 6 screen has lesser nits (or something) compared with other flagship phones.
I have plans to switch to the Style as well. Its close enough to stock and it has the Moto Apps that I have always wanted.
The negatives to switching is that I wouldn't get updates as quick and I will miss the deep dark saturated colors of AMOLED.
the phones are almost identical enough for me not to make the switch, but..... theres that microsd slot and if you get the device on tmobile or unlocked then you can basically turn it into a nexus device thanks to the community. I just got my nexus 6 so I'm not sure its worth the hassle but I might change my mind in a few months.
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I have plans to switch to the Style as well. Its close enough to stock and it has the Moto Apps that I have always wanted.
The negatives to switching is that I wouldn't get updates as quick and I will miss the deep dark saturated colors of AMOLED.
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I am/was a huge fan of AMOLED till I compared it with the G4. I would take the G4 screen any day over my AMOLED. Really curious how the Moto X 2015 screen performs.
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I am/was a huge fan of AMOLED till I compared it with the G4. I would take the G4 screen any day over my AMOLED. Really curious how the Moto X 2015 screen performs.
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The only problem is the brightness for me. But I much prefer amoled to LCD as I like to use my display as a night stand clock and I don't like wasting power backlighting the entire panel.
Perhaps if they can create a full-array LED Backlighting system similar to LED LCD TV's, it would be an improvement if the LED's can be bright enough
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What is this feature if I may ask? I always put the brightness to max when i'm outside. It only gets unreadable when there is a lot of sunlight. I Googled it and it seemed that the Nexus 6 screen has lesser nits (or something) compared with other flagship phones.
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It's a feature included in any kernel on the Nexus 6. It's called High Brightness Mode. You can find a widget developed by flar2 on the market. You can see in extremely bright conditions with this feature enabled.
Here it is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.hbmwidget
Thanks a lot! Works like a charm!:good:
I'm 75% sure I'm sticking with my N6. I'm happy with it overall and the only real gain with the Moto X is the software. I had the 1st Gen X and I loved the few additions Motorola added. The only other thing that would make me get the Moto X is the premise of the device. ZERO carrier influence and it works on all networks out of the box. This is the way all phones should be sold. No carrier interference in regards to upgrades and extra embedded apps that I just don't want.
I will be telling everyone I know who is looking for phone to buy the X in order to support what Motorola's doing.
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I'm 75% sure I'm sticking with my N6. I'm happy with it overall and the only real gain with the Moto X is the software. I had the 1st Gen X and I loved the few additions Motorola added. The only other thing that would make me get the Moto X is the premise of the device. ZERO carrier influence and it works on all networks out of the box. This is the way all phones should be sold. No carrier interference in regards to upgrades and extra embedded apps that I just don't want.
I will be telling everyone I know who is looking for phone to buy the X in order to support what Motorola's doing.
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My only gain with the Moto (now that my brightness is more than sufficient) would be a smaller phone. But my gues is that i'm staying with the Nexus 6. Just saw my brother's LG G4 with the 808. Our "old" Nexus 5's feel faster. Stock software probably has a great part in that but still, there is almost a 2 year gap between those phones. Still pretty curious about the software of the Moto though.
Furthermore, we don't have dominant carriers in the Netherlands. Just 3 or 4 big carriers and a dozen smaller carriers who use the networks of the bigger ones. As far as i know they don't have any influence on my phone (on or off contract) or updates etc.
Gonna try the moto pure! Hopefully it comes out first! And if I don't like it! I'll get N5