Hey guys im debating on switching from verizon because of there new plans are ridiculous im on m8 right now so I would probably want the m9. Im going to get the unlimited data plan and I was wondering how hard it is to get wifi tethering working I plan on rooting it first thing so are there any roms such as cynagen or google play I could just use. Also I was wondering if its difficult to root right now with the lollipop update.
I believe you still get tethering included in your plan. I have the unlimited data plan and I get 7gb of mobile hotspot included.
Bierce22 said:
Hey guys im debating on switching from verizon because of there new plans are ridiculous im on m8 right now so I would probably want the m9. Im going to get the unlimited data plan and I was wondering how hard it is to get wifi tethering working I plan on rooting it first thing so are there any roms such as cynagen or google play I could just use. Also I was wondering if its difficult to root right now with the lollipop update.
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I switched from vzw unlimited plan to tmo's unlimited plan about 2 months ago.
I am not very satisified with the service, yes you will get 5 gb free mobile hotspot (this can be bypassed by using pdanet usb tethering). If you go over 5gb they throttle your speed down.
Also if you go over 21 gb they "re-prioritize" your data as they call it (I call it throttling) which I think is BS.
Their data speeds suck in my area compared to vzw but not always the case depending on where you are, you can get some fast speeds.
Rooting is not an issue as you can unlock the bootloader from htc's site and flash twrp, and the supersu zip.
As far as Roms, just a few so far. Leedroids is about the best I have used but you may loose wifi calling and volte.
I would read up on their re-prioritizing before switching.
Hope this helps
kc6wke said:
I switched from vzw unlimited plan to tmo's unlimited plan about 2 months ago.
I am not very satisified with the service, yes you will get 5 gb free mobile hotspot (this can be bypassed by using pdanet usb tethering). If you go over 5gb they throttle your speed down.
Also if you go over 21 gb they "re-prioritize" your data as they call it (I call it throttling) which I think is BS.
Their data speeds suck in my area compared to vzw but not always the case depending on where you are, you can get some fast speeds.
Rooting is not an issue as you can unlock the bootloader from htc's site and flash twrp, and the supersu zip.
As far as Roms, just a few so far. Leedroids is about the best I have used but you may loose wifi calling and volte.
I would read up on their re-prioritizing before switching.
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Ive got only 3gigs on verizon right now so its not that big of an issue as long as they dont throttle you to 2g im good as far as service goes according the coverage map i have fair 4g at my house and its good everywhere else same with verizon. For tethering though can you use the roms built in wifi tethering option if you switch the apn because I cant stand pda net
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Ive got only 3gigs on verizon right now so its not that big of an issue as long as they dont throttle you to 2g im good as far as service goes according the coverage map i have fair 4g at my house and its good everywhere else same with verizon. For tethering though can you use the roms built in wifi tethering option if you switch the apn because I cant stand pda net
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Yes, you get 5gb of tethering (mobile hotspot) no need to switch apn,
I was asking if you can bypass that with the roms built in tethering if you have unlimited data instead of using pda net
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I was asking if you can bypass that with the roms built in tethering if you have unlimited data instead of using pda net
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No the built in hotspot only allows you 5gb of tethering, this limit cannot be bypassed with a custom Rom or like you can with Vzw (another reason I'm unhappy with tmo).
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I was asking if you can bypass that with the roms built in tethering if you have unlimited data instead of using pda net
I guess it would depend on how the tethering was implemented in the ROM you choose. If it does not use the TMobile apk/solution, then you likely would not have the 5GB limit. If it does, it will. How to tell...? Ask the people building the ROM(s). I will be using PDANet for tethering; it's simple, works fine, and 1 wire is not that big a deal to me.
I'm jumping to TMobile because my wife has an old plan that I can sneak in on that will give me everything I need (effectively unlimited/non-throttling UDP) for $100 LESS per month than Verizon. I've been with them since the days of Bell Atlantic, but I'm tired of the cost & tyranny on their phone choices. Will I have as good of coverage? Not likely, but for the areas I will be in, it's sufficient, so why waste the extra $100?
T-Mobile's recent tethering crackdown can detect pretty much every workaround so far, at least on Sense ROMs. Cyanogenmod has always given me unlimited tethering in the past, but I haven't tried it with this phone, and I can't risk them busting me again if it doesn't work. IIRC you get one warning, after that they drop you down to a capped data plan and you're permanently banned from unlimited. I've already gotten that warning, and I was tethering to an Android tablet through a VPN, with several deep-level tweaks to make it undetectable. The day after their crackdown announcement, I was tethering and I got a warning. I couldn't tether again until I wiped my phone and flashed a different rom before going back to the one I'd been on, to completely undo all of the tweaks. Now I'm back to 7GB of tether data. I wouldn't risk trying to circumvent it more than once if you get a warning.
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So I currently have a $35 3GB/month plan for the Xoom and unlimited data on the D3. The mobile hotspot app is $20 a month. Of course if we had root I could just tether and not worry about it, but I have a question.
I can't really find anywhere concrete, but is that hotspot capped at 2 GB? I feel like I've read this somewhere but can't confirm. It just makes sense to me to pay $20 (if not $0) instead of $35/month. I bought it contract free, I just like the idea of having internet on it without having to get the phone out.
It also seems like tethering is slower than if the tablet had its own connection. No LTE in my area, so the LTE upgrade still wouldn't help me (if it would hurry up and come out already, I've heard whispers, but no emails).
Thoughts?
Does anyone know if we will be able to utilize cellular data tethering using the HTC One developer edition on an unlimited AT&T plan? That could put the developer edition over the top for me compared to the subsidized device from AT&T. Thanks.
Its the same device, if its not in your contract that you can tether then no you can't without violating your contract.
There are various ways to tether if you wish to, but the device isn't going to magically trick at&t that you aren't tethering
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Its the same device, if its not in your contract that you can tether then no you can't without violating your contract.
There are various ways to tether if you wish to, but the device isn't going to magically trick at&t that you aren't tethering
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When I got the unlocked galaxy nexus tethering wasn't disabled like it has been on every subsidized android device I've owned. Wasn't sure if that was a nexus thing or an unlocked/unbranded device thing.
So does anyone know if tethering would be enabled or is it something that AT&T has the ability to block from the carrier end?
On the developer edition it should work without having to pay extra. AT&T branded phones have addition software that ties into your account to allow or disallow tethering. This won't have that software obviously.
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So does anyone know if tethering would be enabled or is it something that AT&T has the ability to block from the carrier end?
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It's likely that you will be able to tether, since the phone will not check with the carrier if the tethering feature is enabled. Regardless, AT&T will still notice that you are tethering, because they can differentiate packets originating from other devices. If you use a lot of data, even just a short tether will raise a flag and you'll get a text or a letter from AT&T, saying that they want to switch your unlimited plan to a capped one.
I bet HTC would or will be providing the dev imei's to att since they all are in bed with the useless carriers.
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It's likely that you will be able to tether, since the phone will not check with the carrier if the tethering feature is enabled. Regardless, AT&T will still notice that you are tethering, because they can differentiate packets originating from other devices. If you use a lot of data, even just a short tether will raise a flag and you'll get a text or a letter from AT&T, saying that they want to switch your unlimited plan to a capped one.
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I've literally been using tethering without paying for it on my unlimited plan for years by buying unlocked phones. They have never noticed. I don't go crazy with it though. I use around 500MB via tethering each month when I'm on the go and need to get some work done.
This is very good news if true. I'll be going with the dev edition.
I'm using a new plan they have called 'mobile share' and it has tethering included for free. I use so little data I went with the 1GB plan (I'm almost always on wifi) but an upgrade isn't terribly expensive.
I had been using a 550 minute, 300MB data plan with no texting for my wife and I but this new plan only costs $15 more and gives us unlimited calls and texting with free tethering on 1GB shared data.
Honestly, if ATT does it like VZW, they have a built-in "entitlement check" in the database of the phone that tells it to talk to the mobile carrier for authentication.
I'm not sure if this phone will try to handshake with ATT for verification, but if it doesn't that is a huge boost to people who'd normally have to pay for it or change plans.
kirdroid said:
I bet HTC would or will be providing the dev imei's to att since they all are in bed with the useless carriers.
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Tethering has nothing to do with your IMEI. I've been tethering on a AT&T branded One X (purchased directly from AT&T) practically since it was released last May. The phone will tether properly with any custom or stock rooted ROM, except for AT&T based ROMs; and on the AT&T based ROMs, it will tether with the proper hack.
My bet is that the unlocked One will be able to tether out of the box. But we won't know for certain until the devices are delivered, and somebody tries it.
The other thing to note, as another mentioned, AT&T can (and does) check on the network side for tethering. The exact methods and policies are unknown to probably anyone outside AT&T. But from what folks on XDA suspect, is that if your network usage is high, it will put you under scrutiny by AT&T. They will then look at the data packets, and see you are tethering. They give you one warning by SMS, and if they catch you tethering again, they will add a tethering plan on your account.
However, the monitoring process seems far from consistent. A few XDA users have reported receiving the tethering warning, despite swearing up and down that they never tethering even once. On the other hand, as I mentioned, I've tethered occasionally for years, and never received a warning. But I only use it for limited times, and for limited data amounts. Typically only while traveling, in a hotel where WiFi is not available, WiFi signal is too crappy, or WiFi charge by the hotel is excessively expensive. And then, I usually only tether to down/upload work emails and files, then disconnect.
Keep your usage low, and stay under the radar (so to speak) and you may be okay. But there are no guarantees.
Would this be possible?
Perhaps a bit more clarity in what you are having an issue with? What throttle is it that you are having applied to your..... service??
Not having an issue, was just wondering if we can hide data usage from Tmobile so that our "unlimited" plan is ACTUALLY unlimited and not throttled when we reach a certain point of data usage (I know they have a 30$ data plan for true unlimited data).
Nope, nothing you can do at all in that case. Even with say, a VPN, data still moves as data (even if they cant see the contents of the packets), and will be counted as such.
I didnt think TMObile did any throttling.
The most I have done on one month was 400GB+ while tethered with the hotspot hack on my Note 4 to my XBox One and PC and Laptop all full speed all month.
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I didnt think TMObile did any throttling.
The most I have done on one month was 400GB+ while tethered with the hotspot hack on my Note 4 to my XBox One and PC and Laptop all full speed all month.
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I am pretty sure he is talking about hiding the usage of tethering... You CAN do that with wifi tether Router and it is a working solution for now, but T-Mobile fights it pretty hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJrzgRp4wM This method works 100% 4 me!
Native tethering is wayyyyy better. It toggles a lot faster and shares the full speed connection. The mod is on the forums.
Op is trying to get unlimited 4G data while only paying for 3/5gb etc. If you really need that much the $30 plan is pretty reasonable and you'll be at ~2MB/sec well over 100GB per month.
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I am pretty sure he is talking about hiding the usage of tethering... You CAN do that with wifi tether Router and it is a working solution for now, but T-Mobile fights it pretty hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJrzgRp4wM This method works 100% 4 me!
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That's also what I'm talking about. Both the Note 4 and LG G3 have customs Roms where when you enable tethering (stock) tethering, the data counts twords your original unlimited data not twords your hotspot data thus allowing me to do 400GB+ that month.
I think what the OP is trying to ask is how to use his 5GB plan, at full speed, past the 5GB plan. You have unlimited data, but only 5GB at full LTE speed, after that you still have data it is just throttled to 2g speeds. No way around that. You need to upgrade to the $80 plan if you want true, unlimited speed past 5GB.
Best way is to pay for unlimited
Just pay the extra money and don't try to cheat or steal. T-Mobile is pretty reasonable all around.
I hope this doesn't sound like a sob story but I live in rural TN. The best I can get to my house is dial-up internet. Therefore I have AT&T as my wireless subscriber because I use my cell phone as a hotspot and I actually get 4g LTE at my house. I just saw AT&T's unlimited plan deal and I also saw that tethering/hotspot is not allowed on this plan. My question is if I choose the unlimited data plan from AT&T, can I somehow work around their hotspot block or is there something I can do to my phone to work around this? Is this even possible?
Thank you in advance for your help.
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I hope this doesn't sound like a sob story but I live in rural TN. The best I can get to my house is dial-up internet. Therefore I have AT&T as my wireless subscriber because I use my cell phone as a hotspot and I actually get 4g LTE at my house. I just saw AT&T's unlimited plan deal and I also saw that tethering/hotspot is not allowed on this plan. My question is if I choose the unlimited data plan from AT&T, can I somehow work around their hotspot block or is there something I can do to my phone to work around this? Is this even possible?
Thank you in advance for your help.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guide-how-to-unlock-tethering-nexus-5x-t3231301
Or install a rom with tethering check disabled.
Whatever the tether unlock method for marshmallow is will work and also custom roms that disable the tether check but keep in mind that since it goes against your plan and this new unlimited plan doesn't carry the whole idea of "I've been on this plan since I got it and that means I'm a super loyal customer and entitled to everything." Then I wouldn't be surprised if At&t would be more likely to kick these new unlimited plan users to mobile share for tethering than old unlimited plans but I also wouldn't be surprised if rural customers would be more likely to get a break on that due to less congested network. It's worth a shot, really the worst thing that could happen is getting put back on your old plan if At&t chooses to force that. and being stuck with a directv subscription assuming you switched from dish or something.
I don't get cable out this way so I'm on DirecTV anyway. The only thing I'm worried about is losing the good plan I have now if the unlimited one doesn't work out. I get 40GB for $75, it would be a shame to lose that.
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did you have any luck with keeping tethering? i've been hesitant to make the change because i dont want to lose my hotspot.
I'm on the fence about making the transition also, I don't want to lose my plan or hotspot. I waiting to see if someone has success.
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I tether on AT&Ts cricket service regularly to kids iPads and nexus tablets. No issues at all.
You will get throttled after 22GB
I'm on an old grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan and I can tether using my current jailbroken iPhone but it's starting to die and I'm looking at the Note 8 as a replacement. I see a lot of info about the Verizon plans, but can anyone confirm that if I buy an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung that I'll still be able to tether on AT&T? I gather that pdanet/foxfi no longer works so I also wonder if there's a way to hide the tether usage, and/or if AT&T even still cares about this.
Thanks!
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I'm on an old grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan and I can tether using my current jailbroken iPhone but it's starting to die and I'm looking at the Note 8 as a replacement. I see a lot of info about the Verizon plans, but can anyone confirm that if I buy an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung that I'll still be able to tether on AT&T? I gather that pdanet/foxfi no longer works so I also wonder if there's a way to hide the tether usage, and/or if AT&T even still cares about this.
Thanks!
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Not trying to get off Subject but I was facing the same thing when I was about to buy my S8+. I had the grandfathered plan (in some form) since my old Palm Treo 650 and hated the thought of losing it. Then ATT came out with a new unlimited plan that has a 10gb/month hotspot for each phone, free texting & calling in US, Canada, Mexico. So I asked my family if they wanted to all be on the same plan so we share the $100. Access fee and the rest is cheaper too. The whole plan is cheaper for me than it was with the "limited" grandfathered in plan (every year ATT had been raising the price of the grandfathered unltd but what could we do? Nothing!). Plus I have DirecTV & get a $25. monthly credit and $17.99 monthly credit for HBO. I think streaming DirecTV on their app is totally not going against data usage (which can slow after 22GB). This is what finally made me give up the old plan.
I could not find any reliable way to otherwise tether. I never did root though. Now I have the N8 and I use the hotspot all of the time but not enough to reach 10gb/month. I do not work for ATT! Lol.
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If you root it follow this thread. It will work. I bought a Verizon note 8 then switch to att sim. You will experience a little bug with phone calling. It will not place the country code leaving you with a number instead of contact name and volte and wifi calling will not work. You have to switch carriers on the phone using this method to fix everything:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
After that root it and follow these steps to enable wifi tether:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/enable-native-mobile-hotspot-galaxy-t3693784
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Not trying to get off Subject but I was facing the same thing when I was about to buy my S8+. I had the grandfathered plan (in some form) since my old Palm Treo 650 and hated the thought of losing it. Then ATT came out with a new unlimited plan that has a 10gb/month hotspot for each phone, free texting & calling in US, Canada, Mexico. So I asked my family if they wanted to all be on the same plan so we share the $100. Access fee and the rest is cheaper too. The whole plan is cheaper for me than it was with the "limited" grandfathered in plan (every year ATT had been raising the price of the grandfathered unltd but what could we do? Nothing!). Plus I have DirecTV & get a $25. monthly credit and $17.99 monthly credit for HBO. I think streaming DirecTV on their app is totally not going against data usage (which can slow after 22GB). This is what finally made me give up the old plan.
I could not find any reliable way to otherwise tether. I never did root though. Now I have the N8 and I use the hotspot all of the time but not enough to reach 10gb/month. I do not work for ATT! Lol.
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Thanks, I looked into it and it doesn't make financial sense for me yet, but I'm sure it will eventually.
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If you root it follow this thread. It will work. I bought a Verizon note 8 then switch to att sim. You will experience a little bug with phone calling. It will not place the country code leaving you with a number instead of contact name and volte and wifi calling will not work. You have to switch carriers on the phone using this method to fix everything:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
After that root it and follow these steps to enable wifi tether:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/enable-native-mobile-hotspot-galaxy-t3693784
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Thanks, I'm new here so bear with me.
I thought that since Verizon and AT&T use different networks, the phones were not interchangeable.
Is there a benefit to buying an unlocked Verizon phone as opposed to an unlocked AT&T phone?
Is rooting necessary? A number of people on here claim that using a factory unlocked phone allows them to tether W/O any modifications. Just trying to verify before I shell out $1k.
tomkiwi said:
Thanks, I looked into it and it doesn't make financial sense for me yet, but I'm sure it will eventually.
Thanks, I'm new here so bear with me.
I thought that since Verizon and AT&T use different networks, the phones were not interchangeable.
Is there a benefit to buying an unlocked Verizon phone as opposed to an unlocked AT&T phone?
Is rooting necessary? A number of people on here claim that using a factory unlocked phone allows them to tether W/O any modifications. Just trying to verify before I shell out $1k.
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just buy unlocked and u can use and tether on any network
you can tether with anyones plan; if you are crazy and use 100's of gigs, then you should pay your way instead of stealing bandwidth from those of us that pay for what we use