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I tried to Hard Reset my XDA IIi as one day right half of the screen was not responding to stylus. Now major problem as it is stuck on Align screen. Tried many times to hard reboot it but the same problem. Then I drained both batteries but the problem is there. Now I tried starting it up while pressing at the same time power button, action button and soft reset button. I am getting a dimmed screen which says Serial and at the bottom v1.01 nothingelse.
It synchronises with my PC and I can see the files are there but no idea as to why it will not start.
HELP, PLEASE!
upsbsh
Location: UK
Device(s): XDA IIi 1.60.50
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Most strange death of XDA IIi
Also some other reports on other models:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=285578&highlight=#285578
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50142&highlight=align
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48540&highlight=align
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27054&highlight=align
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37570&highlight=align
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5548&highlight=align
Hang on... You put your device into bootloader mode, docked it and it synced ok and let you see your files? That doesn't sound right at all. When I put my Alpine into bootloader mode (when I was updating the Radio firmware once upon a time) once the phone was in bootloader mode (with the plain black Version 1.01 text on a blank screen) I couldn't sync my device or see any of the files held in RAM, so it sounds like there's really something wrong with your unit.
Have you tried (re)installing the same version of firmware, see if that does the job? It sounds like a deep-rooted software issue....
well, in bootloader mode, nothing to see of course. however, while stuck in the dead-loop of 'aligh screen', synchroniser still works and you can see everything inside! strange!!! beats me.
i tried before to detach the battery for a few hours so as to drain the backup battery. it didn't work for me. shall post again if it works for me if i leave it longer...
i reloaded 1.11.162 and 1.11.172 rom rom o2 and also the o2-stripped version with 1.04 radio, respectively, but none worked...
don't know if wm5 would help, but it's not available for IIi.
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Beginning to sound like you have a hardware fault then, if you've tried multiple different firmwares on fresh installs... Is the device still in warranty?
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Beginning to sound like you have a hardware fault then, if you've tried multiple different firmwares on fresh installs... Is the device still in warranty?
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had the same problem before..located the problem..and guess what..the screen is screwed..your only remedy is to replace the screen..damn costly as well..or dump the pda and get a new one ...
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Beginning to sound like you have a hardware fault then, if you've tried multiple different firmwares on fresh installs... Is the device still in warranty?
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had the same problem before..located the problem..and guess what..the screen is screwed..your only remedy is to replace the screen..damn costly as well..or dump the pda and get a new one ...
dvng said:
had the same problem before..located the problem..and guess what..the screen is screwed..your only remedy is to replace the screen..damn costly as well..or dump the pda and get a new one ...
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Wow, an insightful technical answer there then....and it's also a wrong one.
The failure of the digitiser overlay could be down to foreign objects stuck between the screen and the casing rim ( crumbs, solid dust etc etc), or warping / damage to the pressure sensitive overlay - look for scratches or 'puddle' areas on the screen that *look* like water between the sections - these are where the overlay is touching the digitiser glass and if this happens then the screen cannot calibrate as the pressure is not uniform. Heat can also warp the plastic overlay. Or, the connection between the overlay ribbon and screen ribbon could have become loose / broken.
In all instances if the digitiser is damaged you do NOT need an entire screen if the display is still working - you need to open the phone, remove the digitiser frame from the LCD assembly, source a new one and solder back on.
Digitisers are about £35 or so when they come up on ebay, I source mine from PDA's with broken LCD's - if you cannot get the exact type most of a similar size can be made to work - there are only 4 connections.
Now it may be difficult for the novice to do or hard to find a digitiser, but a 'new screen' is NOT the only option in this case just becuase *you* cannot do it or hadn't thought of it.
Richard.
Interesting that, because on my PDA I had that "water" effect in the centre of the screen (where I just bunged my Alpine in my pocket, and it got pushed against my thigh) - I put a screen cover on mine, and it seems to have solved the problem - it must be the even amount of surface tension applied across the top screen surface which has gradually pulled it away from the digitiser overlay layer, solving the problem.
I never had any accuracy problems anyway, and I succesfully realigned my screen a few times (just because I like tweaking) to see if it made a difference with the screen making contact with the digitiser overlay, and it always worked fine - but buying a £5 screen protector and seeing if that makes a difference could be a cheaper alternative to getting a new digitiser overlay.
[edit] Woop! 200th post. Time to crack open a beer [/edit]
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dvng said:
had the same problem before..located the problem..and guess what..the screen is screwed..your only remedy is to replace the screen..damn costly as well..or dump the pda and get a new one ...
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Wow, an insightful technical answer there then....and it's also a wrong one.
The failure of the digitiser overlay could be down to foreign objects stuck between the screen and the casing rim ( crumbs, solid dust etc etc), or warping / damage to the pressure sensitive overlay - look for scratches or 'puddle' areas on the screen that *look* like water between the sections - these are where the overlay is touching the digitiser glass and if this happens then the screen cannot calibrate as the pressure is not uniform. Heat can also warp the plastic overlay. Or, the connection between the overlay ribbon and screen ribbon could have become loose / broken.
In all instances if the digitiser is damaged you do NOT need an entire screen if the display is still working - you need to open the phone, remove the digitiser frame from the LCD assembly, source a new one and solder back on.
Digitisers are about £35 or so when they come up on ebay, I source mine from PDA's with broken LCD's - if you cannot get the exact type most of a similar size can be made to work - there are only 4 connections.
Now it may be difficult for the novice to do or hard to find a digitiser, but a 'new screen' is NOT the only option in this case just becuase *you* cannot do it or hadn't thought of it.
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actuallly..before i concluded that the screen was screwed..i have tried all the options that was mentioned by you..the digitiser overlay is not easily fixed or replaceable..in fact i have opened up the casing..clean it and also check the ribbon connectors in case it was loose..someone have tried to remove the digitiser and failed as the digitiser glass is extremely brittle and cracked whislt removing it..digitisers are also hard to come by and apparently they dont sell them separately now..only source is from a used lcd screen..the most convenient after all failed way was actually to replace the screen..
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dvng said:
actuallly..before i concluded that the screen was screwed..i have tried all the options that was mentioned by you..the digitiser overlay is not easily fixed or replaceable..in fact i have opened up the casing..clean it and also check the ribbon connectors in case it was loose..someone have tried to remove the digitiser and failed as the digitiser glass is extremely brittle and cracked whislt removing it..digitisers are also hard to come by and apparently they dont sell them separately now..only source is from a used lcd screen..the most convenient after all failed way was actually to replace the screen..
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Nope, they're all over ebay from taiwan for about £25 plus postage but this is just the overlay with glass not the frame, and they *are* easy to fit - I've done a how to guide I'll post later. You don't need to remove the old one in one piece to fit the new one....
You said a new screen was 'the only remedy' - it isn't.
Richard
Interesting, interesting - I look forward to seeing that guide!
Hello,
I have the same problem described above, so my XDA2i is
stuck on the first screen align window and can't go over...
I wish to buy only the digitizer from an ebay user, but I have some questions:
-is the digitizer solded on the LCD?
-are the digitizer and the LCD two single parts?
-there's an howTo guide to disassemble the XDA2i?
thanks
Alessandro
Hello everyone!
I actually managed to change the digitizer of the LCD of XDA II. To answer the previous questions first:
Yes - the digitizer can be separated from LCD, although it is not easy. I used an old fashioned razor blade to do it, since these are very,very thin and do not put excessive pressure onto the digitizer screen during the pressure. The digitizer is made of very fragile glass panel and glued onto LCD with a double sided sellotape (at least looks like it, when removed..) Glue is very sticky and I had to take great care not to brake the old digitizer - took me 2h to remove it. In general braking the old one is not really a big deal as long as the LCD itself is not damaged by the sharp edges of the digitizer glass. Since the risk is there I figured I'd spend a bit more time on removal but at least be sure about a positive outcome of the project. There was a certain screen protector on my device, not installed by me since I acquired the gadget on e-bay. I took care of removing it from digitizer first and only then proceeded to remove the digitizer from LCD.
The digitizer has 4 connections soldered to the LCD. Opening the soldered contacts is simple, if one has any background in soldering at all. The difficult part is to remove the digitizer from LCD, really. Another difficult part seemed to be the soldering of the new one. There are XDA digitizers on the ebay, they do not have the same contact as the XDA manufactured ones so the really difficult part was figuring out how to create the contact. The old one had 4 contacts soldered in a small rectangle going clockwise from lowest left towards lowest right..
The solution does not look exactly elegant, but who cares how the gadget looks on the inside, as long as it works! The 4 contact block of the newly bought digitizer was divided into 4 separate hair-thin contacts and the two outermost contacts (those that come on the left lowest corner and right lowest corner of the small rectangle connection) were soldered first, then a bit of an isolation tape (a simple synthetic tape used for paper repairs et cetera) was applied over the freshly soldered contacts to prevent short circuiting. After that the two upper contacts were soldered and those covered with another piece of tape.
The new digitizer came with double sided tape as well, so after careful alignment it was easy to glue it in the place of the old one. The main thing during this process is to clean the LCD and digitizer from all dirt and fingerprints, I used alchol for that - vodka, to be exact. I reapplied the screen protector to the casing before putting the complete lcd+digitizer block into the device, but I suppose not all screen protectors can be reapplied that easily..
In the end the connection looked crazy but in principle all was as should be and after the reassembly the device was 100% alive again with the screen aligning properly! It was certainly a risky business but I bought the faulty XDA for 60GBP and the digitizer for 10GBP, 70GBP for a fully working XDA is a bargain I think, not to mention an excellent adrenaline rush during some moments of the project
I can provide the pictures of the finished connection if needed, it will require me to disassemble my Alpine again though..
I'd definitely find some photos useful - stick em up on flickr for us please, thanks
Excellent to hear that you got it all sorted, and got a bargain out of it. I don't think my wobbly soldering iron skills would be quite up to what you managed to achieve (usually I end up cauterising more skin than I do soldering wires whenever I have to solder as part of my Uni course, it's a bit of a love/hate relationship between me and soldering irons... I love to hate them).
OK, my apologies for the quality of pictures - smartphones are not too great in this respect and I do not have a digital camera. The big grainy one is my XDA - notice the medusa-like wire cluster next to the shiny manufacturers soldering The second picture shows the actual digitizer that was installed, here note the connector - that had to be divided by scalpel.
Excellent mate, thanks very much.
Congratulations on that, TommyGun! (Labi, ka ir Jc )
Indeed, without a good friend and solderer Johnc, who himself uses mere "phone" all this might have gone otherwise Hail to soldermasters!
Dissamble O2 XDA 2i
Hello all
I've got this problem with my old trust O2 XDA 2i now. I cannot get past the alignment screen at the momemt.
Looks like I would have to disassemble it now and replace the digitiser.. Would a clean up help or should I try to completely replace the digitiser?
Any guide/ steps to disassemble the XDA 2i would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Kunal
Hi,
Last night I knocked a small table and my girlfriends phone and a remote for the TV fell off.
We noticed that her phone now has a ring of black dots on the screen, mostly visible with a white background (E.G websites) but also from the home screen and the like.
We think she's cancelled her phone insurance, as she's never had a payment out to the company.
Can anyone tell me if its a Digitizer (What is one of these? Is it just the touch screen sensitive part of the phone?) Or the actual LCD Screen itself?
If you click on the photo it will load a larger image
Thanks for any assistance, kinda annoyed about this and wondering if I can repair myself with the parts on ebay. Or does anyone know how much HTC Charge to repair similar? Either in $USD, £GBP or €Eur, I can convert and get a ball park figure.
Hi
First of all is the phone still in warranty? If so take it back to an HTC dealer they should repair it for you for free. TD2 screens are not very good and it's a common fault. ( i had to have mine repaired after just only 3 weeks! )
The TD2 screen is made out of 2 parts, The touch screen or the 'digitizer' as you call it and a normal LCD screen underneath. You need to establish which has gone faulty.
If the touch screen still operates normally i.e the screen does not lock up or freeze and allows you to navigate normally then its the lcd screen below. If the touch screen is faulty one good way of checking is to put a piece of tape over the damaged area and try to lift it up a little to see if the marks / dots disappear and functionality can temporarily be restored.
Its hard to tell from your picture which it is..... sorry
I'm not sure how much a replacement by a dealer would cost, but i'm sure you can replace either yourself. ebay is a good place to look
Hope this helps.
I've had a reply from HTC UK who said the following:
That looks like there are a bunch of very small cracks in the screen. the black stuff is likely the Liquid Crystal from inside the display that has leaked out. If the dots get larger then it would definitely seem that the screen has got some cracks in it.
if this is the case, the standard charge for replacing the LCD is around £180 as sadly it is all one complete unit on the diamond 2, so it is not just the LCD underneath that needs to be replaced, but the whole screen assembly including the touchscreen layer and the actual LCD.
I hope this information helps you to make up your mind.
best regards,
Pete W
HTC
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Reply was fast, I think <1hr from my first email!
I'll see if I can find any HTC Dealer who will send it off on my behalf, but may just end up buying this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LCD-Screen-Di...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL?hash=item588362a12d
Hi mate,
had the same problem...
the item you psetd from ebay is not the one you need to change.
you need a digitizer, not an lcd screen.
i got one from ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=290376721935&view=all&tid=393718237019), it includes both the lcd and the digitizer, you can check ebay to find other auctions offering the digitizer only.
you can change the digitizer on your own if you don't mind loosing the waranty of your phone.
cheers
Hi,
I had already found this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Touch-Screen-...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL?hash=item5882e7ef74
Will buy in a bit, funds are a bit short today.
The Touch Screen's functionality hasn't changed at all though, no sticking buttons or anything. So I suspect that its the LCD Screen thats damaged but will follow you're advise as you're going to have more experiance than me (and its the cheaper part to begin with!)
Scrap the above post.. my g/f has just told me that the dots on her phone are bigger/worse. Looks like its the LCD Screen afterall
i still believe it is not the LCD.
the digitizer is actually sitted on a glass, and the LCD is below that. it is very difficult to harm the LCD. i also though it was the LCD (at least i wasn't sure which was broken) so i ordered both of them.
if you disasseble the phone you will be sure if it is the LCD or not.
i vote for the digitizer
good luck, if you need any help, i'll be pleased to help you..
Just to update, A few days after I posted and got helpful advice on here.. she called me up to say the dots have disappeared, and they have still gone now a few days after.
She said she put it in the office where she works, under a printer paper tray, and the office was warm. Something has (maybe only temporarily) fixed it.
I´m having the same exact problem my nephew dropped my phone, i already dissemble it because i was not sure of the lcd type, but when i looked at the digitizer i didn´t see any dots, so i´m not sure what to repair, TS or Digitizer, i allready tried with the tape to pull the digitizer, when it was apart i couldn´t see anything on the lcd no marks at all, opinions please.
cheers
Well F**K me! just bought a second hand diamond 2 to replace my xperia...
...seemed to work great checking it out... went home with the phone in my pocket... and as soon as I turn it on the touch screen doesn't work
dissected the whole phone only to discover the digitizer is glued to the bezel!
I ordered this from Ebay, will update if I got it working with the brand new housing + digitizer: http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380166349182&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
fingeres crossed
Please report back here on this thread if it works
fluke said:
I´m having the same exact problem my nephew dropped my phone, i already dissemble it because i was not sure of the lcd type, but when i looked at the digitizer i didn´t see any dots, so i´m not sure what to repair, TS or Digitizer, i allready tried with the tape to pull the digitizer, when it was apart i couldn´t see anything on the lcd no marks at all, opinions please.
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Can any one help with this matter?
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Can any one help with this matter?
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If you can make some photos of the digitizer and the lcd dissasembled maybe, but It seems unlikely to break the lcd when you didn't completely trashed your digitizer.
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If you can make some photos of the digitizer and the lcd dissasembled maybe, but It seems unlikely to break the lcd when you didn't completely trashed your digitizer.
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Thanks for the reply as I said previously:
I´m having the same exact problem my nephew dropped my phone, i already dissemble it because i was not sure of the lcd type, but when i looked at the digitizer i didn´t see any dots, so i´m not sure what to repair, TS or Digitizer, i allready tried with the tape to pull the digitizer, when it was apart i couldn´t see anything on the lcd no marks at all, opinions please.
cheers
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Also the LCD didn´t had any marks at all, but i´m going to buy the TS+LCD and replaced by parts first the lcd because it´s a lot easier to replace then if the problem persists the TS.
I will post the result later when i get the parts to replace.
Superman_1122 said:
I've had a reply from HTC UK who said the following:
Reply was fast, I think <1hr from my first email!
I'll see if I can find any HTC Dealer who will send it off on my behalf, but may just end up buying this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LCD-Screen-Di...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL?hash=item588362a12d
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Can anyone confirm the above link as being both Lcd and Digitizer? I'm sure it doesn't mention it in the listing but the picture looks like it's showing both connectors.
Most likely only the LCD that's my conclusion if you look at the sellers store.
But to be sure e-mail the seller and ask.
http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Elect...QQ_sidZ195653022?_nkw=diamond+2&submit=Search
Soooooo, as I've already posted here, My digitizer was busted on the phone I just bought... what I didn't tell was that I ordered a digitizer, then checked if I could remove it easily...came to the conclusion that I couldn't... and ordered a digitizer+housing so I could easily fit it on.
the mail brought me the digitizer today, and while knowing a better solution was on it's way I couldn't resist and try if I could make it work.
Turns out it super easy to seperate the digitizer from the bezel using a hairdryer (softening the glue) and a knife:
Take your phone apart, just the 4 screws, click the plastic center off it. Remove the digitizer cable, the touchscreen cable and the speaker cable.
now you are able to remove the green plate which holds all chips and stuff.
underneath that is the screen, lift it up gently going under it from the gap the removal of volume buttons leaves, put it away safely.
Now remove the speaker, the buttons under the zoom bar, and the power button(don't forget the the power button, and rubbery thingy that falls out of the bottom, the hole needs to be at the bottom when putting it back in).
your phone should be completely empty by now... just the front and the digitize glued together.
make the front of the phone reaaaaaaaaaallllly hot, put the knive between the metal and the digitizer (I started at the part where the zoombar is) and gently push it between the two parts... (from the inside of the phone to the oudside). Now just keep the whole thing above the dryer to keep it warm and slowly slice your way around the phone (no secret wires are there that you can cut through).
I used some random glue I had lying around to glue the front back to the new digitizer... perfect!
so the screen is like new now
ps bought this digitizer: http://cgi.ebay.nl/Touch-Screen-Dig...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item45eed6effc
Thanks for that jodeltje.
It sounds exactly the same as when i replaced the digitizer on an Omnia. Really not as hard as one might imagine. Taking your time and being careful are the most important things.
Hey guys,
I came into same boat last night.
Dropped my T-Mobile MDA Compact V from 2.5ft table, Backwards (Not towards LCD) and now it has black dots on screen. I guess the LCD has pressed backwards by chip sets.
Here is a screenshot.
I think its LCD damaged but I don't have cash to replace nor device warranty.
Do you think the problem solves eventually? Coz once I had dropped sony mobile and it too had same issue but solved after many days.
Hopefully it solves.
BTW; does LCD affixed to Digitizer? by seeing service manual, it doesn't look like it is. And I afraid to get cheap hongkong LCD screens for about 30$ since they won't be true quality display. i.e blueish.
Thanks...
Best Regards
hello CRACING,
sorry about what happened to you...
from the picture i can say that you have a problem with the digitizer...
your LCD is ok.
i tend to have this problem over and over again the last 1,5 years... i replace the digitizer (or the glass on which the digitizer is attached to) every 3-4 months..
yes the ones you get from ebay are not that good quiality, but well it keeps the phone working...
if you need assistance on replacing the digitizer, i can help you, by providing pictures and istructions...
cheers
Hi there,
I'm looking to replace the broken glass front of my gt-i9305. However, most parts I find online explicitly list the i9300 unit.
Will a i9300 glass front fit the i9305?
Thank you for your input,
Gnaddel
Hi Gnaddel,
First i would like to say that i am no expert or authorized in this filed but as far as i know and checked in the internet,those 2 models are exactly in the same dimensions and the only different is that the radio/modem is Qualcomm brand and not Samsung.
So i think it will fit
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9305_galaxy_s_iii-5001.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-4238.php
Only differences are the motherboard and the antenna module.
All I can say is that when I replaced the screen for my i9305 they told me the part for my phone was a little cheaper than the one for i9300. And that was an official Samsung service center. I asked why and they didn't really know the reason. At this point I'd say they are different.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda premium
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I asked why and they didn't really know the reason.
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That's probably because they sell more i9300's than i9305's so they charge more for the screen to make money.
I did see one guy selling an i9300 screen on eBay because it didn't fit his i9305. Not sure if they just didn't know how to fit it properly or if they actually don't fit. I would think that they would fit because its exactly the same frame. Its only if the extra components need more space to fit in the phone.
Sent from my GT-I9305T using xda app-developers app
They are the same. I've fixed several i9305 phones with the i9300 front screens :good:
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They are the same. I've fixed several i9305 phones with the i9300 front screens :good:
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I doubt they've been successful repairs that's went off without a hitch in that case..
The thing is the back of the screen on the i9300 and i9305 differs a slight, (i'm talking about the iron/steel bit on the back of a complete assembled screen) this won't accommodate the motherboard on the various units .. apparently the i9305 has a few more transistors or the like on the motherboard..
Example: i9300 screen assembly, i9305 mid frame..
The motherboard wont slot down properly, leading to the bottom left corner (Seen from behind) to not go down properly, which in turn leads to the mid frame siting a slight skewed, which also means that the battery cover won't fit properly, as the bottom left corner will be lifted enough to where it might fall off without much strain.
This is due to the the ironmolding on the back of the screen assembly being slightly different from the i9305 device, which fits the additional capacitors and so forth better.
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,I can .. if requested provide photographs of the differences i'm referring to, as I've a number of screens in-house.
I have also i9305 and my gf has i9300.
i bought some screen protectors and put them on both phones.
on the i9300 fits nice.
on i9305 the edges of the protector do not stick on the screen. and it now has a non pretty margin of unstuck plastic.
it happened after multiple tries with many different protectors.
so i assume that there is a difference betweenthe two screens . some kind of curve is on ii9305 screen.
Eirwn said:
I have also i9305 and my gf has i9300.
i bought some screen protectors and put them on both phones.
on the i9300 fits nice.
on i9305 the edges of the protector do not stick on the screen. and it now has a non pretty margin of unstuck plastic.
it happened after multiple tries with many different protectors.
so i assume that there is a difference betweenthe two screens . some kind of curve is on ii9305 screen.
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Ahaha you made my day.
Anyway, can anyone confirm or not if i9300 amoled screen would go on i9305 ?
Also what u think about chineese screens that says "guenuine" but may not be, would i get crappy screen ?
i9305 board and i9300 LCD unit
zac68 said:
They are the same. I've fixed several i9305 phones with the i9300 front screens :good:
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it not working, home button not working ?
did you try after replace ?
We are talking about two different things here.
Some people are talking about the front glass. This is exactly the same for both models. The S3 LTE (i9305) is the same design but altered for 4G so the motherboard and some antennas have been altered and the metal frame and some other elements needed to be altered too to accommodate the alterations.
Battery and battery cover are also the same. Also the cameras, speaker, vibrator and wifi antenna. I'm not sure about the LCD screen and touch screen but I would say hey are the same too (I'm talking about these two elements alone, not the frame)
If you try to fit a regular i9300 front (frame, LCD, touch screen and glass) to a i9305 motherboard, you will find it doesn't fit perfectly. Main problem is in the different disposition of the big square chips in the motherboard side that touches the front frame. i9300 frame has a rim around those chips that touches the golden line in the motherboard that surrounds them. Just over the microUSB housing there is a part of that rim that enters the squared perimeter. That piece of rim has been removed so the rim in the i9300 frame will avoid the chips in the i9305 motherboard to fit there.
The lower left corner of the frame, near the screw hole, is also a little different, again due to an alteration in the rim.
Finally, the i9300 frame has a tiny metal bit in the very lower left corner, near the mic that avoids the plastic back middle cover of the i9305 to fit perfectly. that's because this cover houses at the bottom an antenna (I guess this is the 4G antenna) that is slightly bigger that the one in the i9300. You can think you could use the i9300 middle cover instead, but then you would be fitting the phone with a 3G antenna instead of 4G. what's more, this antenna has 3 points to connect with the motherboard while the i9300 antenna has only 2 points.
The reason the home button doesn't work is because the home button is not connected to the motherboard through the main connector but using two spots that you can see just over the mic white rubber housing. since the motherboard is not down to the position it should, it will not touch those spots.
Still, I believe there is a solution and it consists in using a Dremel tool to remove all the aforementioned parts of the i9300 metal frame so the i9305 motherboard and middle cover fit correctly.
Some precautions have to be taken. Covering the holes in the frame to avoid metal splinters entering the LCD circuits and painting the removed parts properly to avoid contact of the metal with the motherboard circuits.
I haven't tried it personally but I'm probable going to do it this weekend so I will tell you how it goes.
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Thanks for this, jedikalimero, this is exactly the information I needed.
In theory would it be possible to disassemble the entire front assembly of an I9300 to get the digitiser and screen panel out and attach to the front assembly of an I9305 so the gaps match up on the board?
Pretty much what I'm thinking of doing is replacing the cracked digitiser of an I9305 with the digitiser of an I9300. As you have shown, the front panel assembly would not be compatible, but I was thinking of disassembling the I9300 assembly and doing what I mentioned above.
I know the screen assembly is quite difficult to take apart as a lot of it is held together with glue rather than screws so it might not be worth the effort. Just thought I'd ask anyway.
ugly_bob said:
Thanks for this, jedikalimero, this is exactly the information I needed.
In theory would it be possible to disassemble the entire front assembly of an I9300 to get the digitiser and screen panel out and attach to the front assembly of an I9305 so the gaps match up on the board?
Pretty much what I'm thinking of doing is replacing the cunrepairableitiser of an I9305 with the digitiser of an I9300. As you have shown, the front panel assembly would not be compatible, but I was thinking of disassembling the I9300 assembly and doing what I mentioned above.
I know the screen assembly is quite difficult to take apart as a lot of it is held together with glue rather than screws so it might not be worth the effort. Just thought I'd ask anyway.
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Forget it. It is practically impossible to remove the lcd and touch sensor from the frame without damaging them. Even removing the top Gorilla glass is a very difficult and risky task since it is fully glued to the touch sensor and this to the lcd and this to the frame. Not only the edges but all the surface. Samsung worked very hard to make the front assembly unrepairable.
You could buy just the lcd and touch sensor and put them in the emptied frame of your broken screen but you still have to save the touch buttons and put a new front glass. I've compared the prices of the lcd+touch sensor assembly and the prices of the full front assembly and it isn't worth the effort. Just buy a front assembly for your S3 LTE and sell the broken one at ebay.
jedikalimero said:
Forget it. It is practically impossible to remove the lcd and touch sensor from the frame without damaging them. Even removing the top Gorilla glass is a very difficult and risky task since it is fully glued to the touch sensor and this to the lcd and this to the frame. Not only the edges but all the surface. Samsung worked very hard to make the front assembly unrepairable.
You could buy just the lcd and touch sensor and put them in the emptied frame of your broken screen but you still have to save the touch buttons and put a new front glass. I've compared the prices of the lcd+touch sensor assembly and the prices of the full front assembly and it isn't worth the effort. Just buy a front assembly for your S3 LTE and sell the broken one at ebay.
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I thought that might be the case, thanks for the advice.
i9305 and i9300 are the same except for a little differences in the motherboard and LTE antenna. You can safely change the screen
More simple...
jedikalimero said:
We are talking about two different things here.
Some people are talking about the front glass. This is exactly the same for both models. The S3 LTE (i9305) is the same design but altered for 4G so the motherboard and some antennas have been altered and the metal frame and some other elements needed to be altered too to accommodate the alterations.
Battery and battery cover are also the same. Also the cameras, speaker, vibrator and wifi antenna. I'm not sure about the LCD screen and touch screen but I would say hey are the same too (I'm talking about these two elements alone, not the frame)
If you try to fit a regular i9300 front (frame, LCD, touch screen and glass) to a i9305 motherboard, you will find it doesn't fit perfectly. Main problem is in the different disposition of the big square chips in the motherboard side that touches the front frame. i9300 frame has a rim around those chips that touches the golden line in the motherboard that surrounds them. Just over the microUSB housing there is a part of that rim that enters the squared perimeter. That piece of rim has been removed so the rim in the i9300 frame will avoid the chips in the i9305 motherboard to fit there.
The lower left corner of the frame, near the screw hole, is also a little different, again due to an alteration in the rim.
Finally, the i9300 frame has a tiny metal bit in the very lower left corner, near the mic that avoids the plastic back middle cover of the i9305 to fit perfectly. that's because this cover houses at the bottom an antenna (I guess this is the 4G antenna) that is slightly bigger that the one in the i9300. You can think you could use the i9300 middle cover instead, but then you would be fitting the phone with a 3G antenna instead of 4G. what's more, this antenna has 3 points to connect with the motherboard while the i9300 antenna has only 2 points.
The reason the home button doesn't work is because the home button is not connected to the motherboard through the main connector but using two spots that you can see just over the mic white rubber housing. since the motherboard is not down to the position it should, it will not touch those spots.
Still, I believe there is a solution and it consists in using a Dremel tool to remove all the aforementioned parts of the i9300 metal frame so the i9305 motherboard and middle cover fit correctly.
Some precautions have to be taken. Covering the holes in the frame to avoid metal splinters entering the LCD circuits and painting the removed parts properly to avoid contact of the metal with the motherboard circuits.
I haven't tried it personally but I'm probable going to do it this weekend so I will tell you how it goes.
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I tried it a little differently:
Instead of removing the metal legs on the display, I put some clear tape on those areas causing a short on the mainboard. As this doesn't make the PCB fitting mechanically to the display, I didn't tighten the black center screw very much. If you then use a dremel for the midframe, everything works technically and also the gap on the left bottom disappears.
I was afraid of metal flitter in the electronics when cutting the metal legs. Obviously, the mainboard is very robust. Even tough I caused several times a short by the wrong display, everything is still fine....
Loud speaker assemble?
Anyone knows whether I can fit i9300's loudspeaker(wifi,gps,headphone jack) assemble in i9305?
Any extra antenna there?
I'm afraid 9305's 4g antenna is there..
cce121 said:
Anyone knows whether I can fit i9300's loudspeaker(wifi,gps,headphone jack) assemble in i9305?
Any extra antenna there?
I'm afraid 9305's 4g antenna is there..
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not 100% sure but the tracks that can be seen under the white paint (or black paint) on the outside of the piece are different in shape from i9300 to i9305
What is sure is there is at least one antenna inside the piece, maybe two
Jedikalimero,
thank you very much for this info & pictures!
I've applied your solution (Dremel tool, holes covered by clear tape and then to isolate chips and brushed parts) and it works like a champ!
Regards,
Jan, Prague, Czech Republic
jedikalimero said:
not 100% sure but the tracks that can be seen under the white paint (or black paint) on the outside of the piece are different in shape from i9300 to i9305
What is sure is there is at least one antenna inside the piece, maybe two
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From the photos I have inspected,the number pins in that particular assemble in i9300 n i9305 are the same and appeared in the same place. Can't judge from 9300's photo though. In fact in my i9305, that part say i9300 on outside.
Not sure if my unit had been tinkered before as i bought it as a 1month old 2nd hand unit.
Hi to all,
Before you ask, yes!, I did use the search and found some related posts to my issue, but a little outdated and I read so many things that I think I'm more confused.
My HD2 works without problems with the broken screen...but unless i have tape on it, i I'll cut my fingers...so after almost a year i decided it's time to repair it!
For that, I WANT to buy an LCD+Digitizer Glass Replacement (because i hear some are made of plastic). Because there are at least 3 different versions (so i heard) of HD2 LCD and hundreds of listings on ebay, I'm afraid to buy the wrong part.
Correct me if I'm mistaken:
There are 2 types of connection, solder or socket type. Mine is definitely socket (60H00300), correct?
Every socket version (60H00300) is the one that the LCD is better, right?
If i purchase any LCD+Digitizer combo that states as "for HD2 T-Mobile T8585 solderless/version 2/socket" will it be ok? Even without the T-Mobile logo on top? ...I ask this because I know for a fact that the US T-Mobile version has a slightly larger screen/digitizer!
Plus, I would also appreciate if someone pointed out an original screen replacement (meaning scratch resistance glass digitizer) that i could buy with confidence! :highfive:
Here's my sad HD2...i had to put tape on it, or the top right corner would fall in pieces..
Your TMOUS LCD & Digitizer is 100% same size as any other model HD2.
size difference is in the casing below the buttons & is about 1.5mm to allow for different antenna setup on mainboard.
Any 300 type will fit & work fine but you are indeed correct in assuming issues on quality & materials used.
Buying complete LCD/Digitizer does not mean you will get better quality parts & to be honest it maybe worse as the quality of tape used on some of these is poor.
If your LCD is fine I would make the effort to remove the Digitizer & thus just replace digitizer.
Can be done by warming it up with a quality hair-dryer & using a few new razor blades to loosen the bond, time & care is the key here.
Tapes for rebuild can be found on eBay from poland with worldwide shipping.
Digitizer for TMOUS is this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230897875502?
You would be advised to use a film on lens as even the glass ones can scratch as not as hard as original.
Trying to find original is a pain & high cost for possibly no gain ...
Most important part is learning good repair steps & using good care when stripping & rebuilding as without that a good or poor quality digitizer will be just as useful as a beer mat.
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Your TMOUS LCD & Digitizer is 100% same size as any other model HD2.
size difference is in the casing below the buttons & is about 1.5mm to allow for different antenna setup on mainboard.
Any 300 type will fit & work fine but you are indeed correct in assuming issues on quality & materials used.
Buying complete LCD/Digitizer does not mean you will get better quality parts & to be honest it maybe worse as the quality of tape used on some of these is poor.
If your LCD is fine I would make the effort to remove the Digitizer & thus just replace digitizer.
Can be done by warming it up with a quality hair-dryer & using a few new razor blades to loosen the bond, time & care is the key here.
Tapes for rebuild can be found on eBay from poland with worldwide shipping.
Digitizer for TMOUS is this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230897875502?
You would be advised to use a film on lens as even the glass ones can scratch as not as hard as original.
Trying to find original is a pain & high cost for possibly no gain ...
Most important part is learning good repair steps & using good care when stripping & rebuilding as without that a good or poor quality digitizer will be just as useful as a beer mat.
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The main reason for me to buy the LCD+Digitizer is that i cant afford to be without my HD2 for more than a couple of days...and if I mess up ending the relationship between the LCD and its digitizer....I may end up with two (or three) broken "hearts"!
I'll risk in buying an LCD+Glass Digitizer "300 type" (+film protector) and then attempt to recover the original LCD for a "future repair" as you suggest!
Thank you for your reply, it really answered my issues! (I pushed the thanks button...but for some unknown reason to me it didn't work )
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The main reason for me to buy the LCD+Digitizer is that i cant afford to be without my HD2 for more than a couple of days...and if I mess up ending the relationship between the LCD and its digitizer....I may end up with two (or three) broken "hearts"!
I'll risk in buying an LCD+Glass Digitizer "300 type" (+film protector) and then attempt to recover the original LCD for a "future repair" as you suggest!
Thank you for your reply, it really answered my issues! (I pushed the thanks button...but for some unknown reason to me it didn't work )
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Good luck, hope it works out fine ...
hi
my display was broken, but have worked for a year or so.
now it is frozen/ unresponsive and i have purchased a full display.
just found a very easy way to replace the whole display in just 3 minutes by accessing it from the front side..
i am not yet allowed to post the link, but if you google this
IMPEXTROM CAMBIAR TROCAR DISPLAY HTC HD2
you will see the 3 minutes video
but it seems too easy to be possible ...
any hints?
thanx &cheers
That been set up for the video as you can see it been off before & the chassis the lcd is bonded to is clean of all bonding tape :-/
Also original has signal interference tape runing down sides across all 3 layers.
also if you heat the front first thing to seperate is the digi from LCD as the lcd to mid chassis is a strong bond.
Best way is popping them out of rear cover, fitting a pre built lcd/digitizer is not hard, just use quality adhesive to hold lcd to centre chassis & buy pre cut black foam tape for the top & bottom digi glass edges or rebuild is next to pointless without this done well.
I've done a good 30 odd HD2 screen & mainboards & no way I could do it to my standard via that video.
First time poster here and wanted to start by saying thanks to the members on here who have spent countless hours teaching others how to root, unlock, flash custom ROMs, etc. Your guidance has provided lots of fun in the Android world.
Recently, the LCD glass screen had shattered on my HTC One, and I had purchased a replacement front and back. Upon transferring the motherboard + the secondary chip to the new housing, I accidentally broke off the flex cable connectors for the LCD screen and SIM card. Upon completion of reassembly, I crossed my fingers as I pressed the power button, only to be met with the initial power-on vibration and no image on the LCD. Unfortunately, I can't verify if the SIM slot is working without the LCD, but I'd assume it isn't.
Anyway, thanks for listening to my story. I've supplemented it with pictures indicating where I messed up. The first picture is the motherboard. Compare the two connectors contained in the red circle. The left one has the white tab, while the right is missing its white tab. The second picture is the SIM connector to the secondary board. As you may notice yet again, the white connector is missing. If anyone has legit/illegit solutions to this problem, I'd love to hear from you.
Thanks in advance!
yarrrrr said:
First time poster here and wanted to start by saying thanks to the members on here who have spent countless hours teaching others how to root, unlock, flash custom ROMs, etc. Your guidance has provided lots of fun in the Android world.
Recently, the LCD glass screen had shattered on my HTC One, and I had purchased a replacement front and back. Upon transferring the motherboard + the secondary chip to the new housing, I accidentally broke off the flex cable connectors for the LCD screen and SIM card. Upon completion of reassembly, I crossed my fingers as I pressed the power button, only to be met with the initial power-on vibration and no image on the LCD. Unfortunately, I can't verify if the SIM slot is working without the LCD, but I'd assume it isn't.
Anyway, thanks for listening to my story. I've supplemented it with pictures indicating where I messed up. The first picture is the motherboard. Compare the two connectors contained in the red circle. The left one has the white tab, while the right is missing its white tab. The second picture is the SIM connector to the secondary board. As you may notice yet again, the white connector is missing. If anyone has legit/illegit solutions to this problem, I'd love to hear from you.
Thanks in advance!
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unless you have high soldering skills, you should go to a repair shop to get these pcb connectors replaced or even send it to htc. I highly doubt htc will replace the connectors but may replace the entire main board which probably won't be cheap at all.
or the other solution if its to expensive, buy a ''for parts or not working'' M7 from ebay and remove the motherboard to service your phone. (i.e a unit that have a cracked screen but still able to boot) Don't forget it must have a clean imei.
btw I don't understand how you managed to broke that connector tab, it should unlock easily with delicate force with a precision screwdriver..
alray said:
unless you have high soldering skills, you should go to a repair shop to get these pcb connectors replaced or even send it to htc. I highly doubt htc will replace the connectors but may replace the entire main board which probably won't be cheap at all.
or the other solution if its to expensive, buy a ''for parts or not working'' M7 from ebay and remove the motherboard to service your phone. (i.e a unit that have a cracked screen but still able to boot) Don't forget it must have a clean imei.
btw I don't understand how you managed to broke that connector tab, it should unlock easily with delicate force with a precision screwdriver..
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Thanks for the help, appreciate the honesty.
I'll chalk it up to inexperience, with this being my first attempt at phone surgery. Hopefully the second attempt will go much, much smoother.
Will keep an eye out for HTC One's with a cracked screen!
yarrrrr said:
Thanks for the help, appreciate the honesty.
I'll chalk it up to inexperience, with this being my first attempt at phone surgery. Hopefully the second attempt will go much, much smoother.
Will keep an eye out for HTC One's with a cracked screen!
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I know exactly how you broke it off. There's four of those connectors and two of them have a different type of flip. It's silly. I have the exact same problem too.
Did you end up getting yours fixed?