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Covered Design, Features, What was removed as well as added and a Speed Test. Is it worth the jump from the Note 3 to the Note 4?
After using the Note 3 as my main device for a year then getting the Note 4, I like to say that there is a difference and it feels refreshed. With the 1440p Display, New Touch Wiz Ui, and a few new features. Now I did notice that there are somethings missing from the Note 4 that the Note 3 had. There are also something that have been moved and changed, like the Pen Window feature is now used with the Multi-Window feature on the Note 4. Spec wise there is not a massive push but its still a beast of a phone. Watch the Full comparison below and let me know what you think. Is it worth the jump from the Note 3 to the Note 4?
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I did not think it would be at first, but my phone whore personality came out.
The display, camera, video, metal, and going no contract lm there.
With tomorrow being the day, I doubt I will sleep much tonight. LOL
Dang being a tech freak sucks and is expensive!
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
Am sticking with my 3. It has massive Dev support, so it's rooted and pretty much hacked to the max. I have a 128gb sd card in their, so have games on the sd card, music everything. I think had Samsung probably added more ram then maybe they would have had my money. I will however probably get the 4 for my wife though.
marvi0 said:
Am sticking with my 3. It has massive Dev support, so it's rooted and pretty much hacked to the max. I have a 128gb sd card in their, so have games on the sd card, music everything. I think had Samsung probably added more ram then maybe they would have had my money. I will however probably get the 4 for my wife though.
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I am sure you will get some hands on time with her phone though huh? LOL
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
128gb ?! Isn't the max supported 64?
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Most modern mid end to high end smartphones can handle 128GB MicroSDs with no problem.
I plan on getting a 128GB MicroSD for my Note 4
Btw, thanks OP for the info, it will help a lot of people. I came from a Galaxy S4 so the Note 4 is a huge jump for me loving this beast!
So far I miss few things from Note 3.
1. Cannot add app shortcuts at the bottom of lock screen. It is right now fixed to default camera app
2. There was "edit after capture", no longer there, have to swype down notification and click 'edit'
3. No software "Air Command" shortcuts available in the market yet
4. Qi receivers are hell expensive
5. Most irritating : no longer SD write access (searching root threads) -> Edit: Just rooted using chainfire's method, tripped KNOX, whatever!! I never had to root Note 3. Google deserves kick in the ass for disabling SD write.
ryan6953 said:
128gb ?! Isn't the max supported 64?
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They can support up to 2tb storage!!! Try using an otg cable and hooking up an external hdd or flashdisk.
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Definately worth the upgrade if you can swallow the price (I buy sim free as don't want to be tied into a 2yr contract thanks!). I upgraded from the Note 3 and so many aspects have improved. The camera, battery, style and s pen are all better.
Is it worth the money? Compared to an IP6 definately. Compared to a OnePlus One which is under half the price....well the screen on that isn't as good - I mean sensitivity not pixels. The N4 is so much more complete but whether its worth the additional £350 is down to you personally.
If you have the Note 3 and don't have the cash to upgrade - don't worry about it. Not worth breaking the bank over! The N3 is a fine device and not far off as powerful.
The N4 has some very nice enhancements though, and you'll not be disappointed if you do buy it. Every note model I've owned (all of them) have impressed. I've tried other phones and always end up back on the note.
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Definately worth the upgrade if you can swallow the price (I buy sim free as don't want to be tied into a 2yr contract thanks!). I upgraded from the Note 3 and so many aspects have improved. The camera, battery, style and s pen are all better.
Is it worth the money? Compared to an IP6 definately. Compared to a OnePlus One which is under half the price....well the screen on that isn't as good - I mean sensitivity not pixels. The N4 is so much more complete but whether its worth the additional £350 is down to you personally.
If you have the Note 3 and don't have the cash to upgrade - don't worry about it. Not worth breaking the bank over! The N3 is a fine device and not far off as powerful.
The N4 has some very nice enhancements though, and you'll not be disappointed if you do buy it. Every note model I've owned (all of them) have impressed. I've tried other phones and always end up back on the note.
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Just quoting you.
Note 4 is not worth abandoning the note 3..
UPDATE: After almost two weeks of use, I feel as if my Note 4 has more problems than my Note 3. It crashes and lags worst than what my Note 3 ever did on a bad day.
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UPDATE: After almost two weeks of use, I feel as if my Note 4 has more problems than my Note 3. It crashes and lags worst than what my Note 3 ever did on a bad day.
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I agree! I'm seriously thinking about buying another Note 3 and selling my Note 4, or making a trade with someone.
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Now that the S6 is out and the whole world saw Samsung take out expandable storage & removable battery in the S6 in favor of design, does anyone think they will do this to the Note 5 as well?
I certainly hope not because this will be the last Samsung I will buy ever again.
If they do it would be like buying a nexus
I think they will drop both, but I hope not.
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I think they will drop both, but I hope not.
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I hope not, too.
But, if the Note line is supposed to be for power users and the S line for normal users, then they should be smart and not ditch the expandable storage and removable battery.
The Note series isn't been pushed for its design aspects as much as its feature set. The Note series is also very business orientated and because of that the removable battery is a seriously important feature. bringing an extra battery is a must for most business users who are away from the office a lot or travel and such. There would be no point in removing the MicroSD slot if they still have a removable battery,
Now of course Samsung don't want to brand the Note series that way, but ultimately a large phone such as the Note would see no benefit from a premium design such as the S6 as the general population aren't going to go for phones much bigger than the S6 and as such removing features for such a thing would be counter productive.
At least I hope so. If Samsung remove the MicroSD slot from the Note series, I will stick with the Note 4 for as long as possible and then move to another company. Samsung can scream all of the nonsense they what, copying Apple's greed for storage strangled devices is nothing short of pathetic. If your going that route, then 64GB better be the standard. Why bother advertising 2k display here, 4K camera there, if people don't have the storage to deal with higher size content.
I hope Samsung thinks in the same way for Note 5. Otherwise I will be moving to iPhone 6S plus
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If they do it would be like buying a nexus
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Yeah and for one I'd be seriously tempted to choose the Nexus. The N6 is a pretty sweet phone, the only reason I don't have one is that it's not as good as the Note 4. Removable battery and micro sd slot being 2/3 of the reasons I have the Note 4 instead.
If they do then bye ? Samsung
Depends upon the sales of s6
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Depends upon the sales of s6
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Yup, and of course feedback. The thing is though that samsung has the ability to do both, but in order to improve their margins they have gone the Apple route, a route which I think they will stay on as long as it brings in greater profits, which is going to be the case due to the S6 actually being quite awesome in comparison to the rest of the phones out there.
Note 5 will keep both because its designed for power users on the go. The S6 is more for the mainstream crowed like Iphones sheeple.
If they do it's bye bye Samsung for me too after Captivate, S3, Note 2, Note 4.
If s6 sales fail then they wont.
I know I wont buy a pjone without microsd.
I think Samsung will first see how people react to the S6 once on the market and base their decision around that for their next phones (including Note 5). However, I hate to say that I think non-removable batteries and nonexpandible storage are the future (as much as I hate it). Google is really encouraging these kinds of features and many companies may follow in their footsteps.
I read somewhere a day ago that the 32GB S6 will have expandible storage. The slot is under a flap cover that's on the top of the phone instead of under the cover. There's another dlot on the sidr of the phone for the sim. That was not officially confirmed though, and I think the people discussing it were only basing it on the photos and hands-on footages. But they all see one distinct slot, a distinct flap covering something, and a micro USB port on the phone. I'd confirm it myself, but I can't tell based on images, what version of the S6 I'm looking at.
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If s6 sales fail then they wont.
I know I wont buy a pjone without microsd.
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I have a feeling the S6 will actually be a big hit with consumers. It's visually appealing and has great specs. Most mainstream users don't swap out batteries or load up large SD cards. With 64GB versions to be sold I expect the S6 will do very well, although I'm hoping that Samsung leaves the SD card and replaceable battery in the Note 5. That would help distinguish their mainstream S6 from the power-user Note model. As it stood before, the Note was simply a more powerful version of the S6 with an S-Pen..
S6 pre orders have already smashed records and launch is sill a few weeks away. Like it or not, these sales figures will have an influence on Samsung's design team going forward. In other words don't be surprised if the Note 5 has a solid glass or possibly metal back.
It would be OK with me if they made sure higher storage options are available and not to hard to find. Android is making it tough for OEMs to have ext storage. I know I needed root to access mine the way I wanted to.
Either way I am not worried because the note 4 is the last device for awhile.
http://phandroid.com/2015/03/09/galaxy-s6-pre-orders/
According to Korea Times, Samsung has confirmed that a combined 20 million+ units of the Samsung Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge have been pre-ordered. More specifically, the Samsung Galaxy S6 commands an overwhelming majority of that number with 15 million units, while the Edge variant accounts for about 5 million. Well, if you don’t recall, Apple’s iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus pre-sales were pegged at a whopping 4 million.
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This does not bode well for the Note 5. We have to constantly let Samsung know on their Facebook page that they SHOULD NOT get rid of expandable storage or removable battery.
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA
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Neo3D said:
http://phandroid.com/2015/03/09/galaxy-s6-pre-orders/
This does not bode well for the Note 5. We have to constantly let Samsung know on their Facebook page that they SHOULD NOT get rid of expandable storage or removable battery.
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA
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I'm not going to even bother do that. I will just not buy it.
That should send the message.
So if note 5 has no external storage and no removable battery then no one that want these features should buy it.
Then I bet note 6 will have whatever we want.
If they removed either, I would not by their product and have to look for an alternative from one of their competitors.
Going by Samsung’s usual launch schedule, the Galaxy Note 5 would be less than two months away from getting an official announcement at this point of time. Going by recent rumors, however, the time before the Note 5 is unveiled would be even shorter. Well, it looks like the latter is what we will have to believe in, as our insiders have revealed today the the Galaxy Note 5 will be announced on August 12, and go on sale around two weeks later on August 21.
We have also learned that the Galaxy S6 edge Plus will be launched as the Galaxy S6 edge+, and will be announced alongside the Note 5 on the same date. Samsung’s plan to launch two big handsets at the same time (and risking one device eating into the sales of the other) was leaked by a report out of the Korean press a few hours ago, and we can confirm that it is indeed what the company intends to do. The two devices will also be accompanied by the official launch of Samsung Pay, at least for the US market.
Now, let’s move on to a few details of the Galaxy Note 5 and Galaxy S6 edge+. First, Samsung’s next phablet flagship. Let’s get one of the most important aspects of the phone out of the way: The Note 5 will not have a microSD slot, something we had guessed would be the case earlier this month. In terms of design, the phone will basically be a blown-up version of the Galaxy S6. But like the Galaxy A8, the Note 5 will have extremely thin screen bezel, a design change that might come in handy in terms of ergonomics keeping in consideration the new metal and glass design that the Note 5 is expected to feature.
The S Pen will also be seeing a few design changes. According to the information we’ve received, the stylus will look more like a pen this time around (and apparently feel like one, too) and will have the same color as the color of the device. Speaking of colors, the Galaxy Note 5 will be offered in silver, gold, black and white options; these are the same options we’ve seen on the Note 4, though the glass construction on the Note 5 is sure to make these same-old colors look considerably better.
When it comes to the Galaxy S6 edge+, there’s really not much to tell. The device will be a phablet version of the Galaxy S6 edge, with a curve on either side of the screen and the same color options as the Note 5. We can, however, confirm that the S6 edge+ will be powered by the Exynos 7420 instead of a Snapdragon 808, and have 3GB of RAM. Oh, and as we said yesterday, the Note 5 will certainly become the first Samsung phone to feature 4GB of RAM. We’re guessing storage options would be the same as the Galaxy S6 lineup, though it would be great if Samsung would make the 64GB variant the base model to make up for the lack of expandable storage.
Provided all the information we have been given turns out to be correct, Samsung’s next UNPACKED event could be one of its biggest yet, if only because of the number of things it will announce on a single day. The August launch seems too early to be true, but with numerous rumors pointing at Samsung moving faster with the Galaxy Note 5, it certainly looks like we will be hearing everything from the horse’s mouth in under a month from now.
Phones Galaxy Note 5
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/14...edge-coming-august-12-on-sale-from-august-21/
toofimoofi said:
Going by Samsung’s usual launch schedule.....
Going by recent rumors, however.....
Well, it looks like the latter is what we will have to believe in....
as our insiders have revealed today.....
was leaked by a report out of the Korean press a few hours ago..
According to the information we’ve received....
When it comes to the Galaxy S6 edge+, there’s really not much to tell....
We’re guessing....... storage options would be the same as the Galaxy S6 lineup, though it would be great if Samsung would make the 64GB variant the base model to make up for the lack of expandable storage.
Provided all the information we have been given turns out to be correct.....
but with numerous rumors pointing at Samsung moving faster with the Galaxy Note 5, it certainly looks like we will be hearing everything from the horse’s mouth in under a month from now...
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/14...edge-coming-august-12-on-sale-from-august-21/
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was leaked by a report out of the Korean press a few hours ago..
Samsung has not commented on these reports so it’s official position on the matter is not known. From that own article.
Enough with the sammobile could be, might be...
After the mess that was the Note 4 release I don't believe anything until I have a device in my hand.
Me and my N4 will be here if you need us lol.
To be honest why would anyone with an Exynos Note 4 update; the SoC is only slightly improved as is the nand and ram, but the screen is pretty much the same and no microsd support nor swappable batteries? Being released in August also means no Android M at launch, which means you'll be waiting until Jan/Feb for the update. Guessing it'll have the same cameras as the S6 which is pretty much on par with the Note 4's.
***In case this is true***
Now we know the reason our Note 4 is the worst flagship in the updates department. They were planning for a faster Note 5 release to beat Apple. and not respect the 1 year release they had til now. Not cool Samsung.
Well if it's true about it being a blown up version of S6 then not going to get it... No sdcard and non removable battery, I think it's a terrible choice
GALAXY NOTE II... WHAT ELSE?
mythoc said:
***In case this is true***
Now we know the reason our Note 4 is the worst flagship in the updates department. They were planning for a faster Note 5 release to beat Apple. and not respect the 1 year release they had til now. Not cool Samsung.
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Samsung's problem is that they have 100000000 different devices to support and different variants of those devices for different regions. No wonder they don't have the time to update all of their phones at once.
Normally I buy a new phone every year but this might be the first time I'll stay on the Note 4 for a year longer. At the moment I don't feel like re-doing all the work we did on CM12.1 Note 4 Snapdragon, for the Note 5 again. Slayher has serious health issue's, so he won't be able to work on it neither. And RaymanFX has just reached the early alpha/beta stages of getting CM running on the 910C Exynos variant, so I'd also doubt he'll jump onto the Note 5.
So the Note 5 might not get a lot dev support and will most likely not feature AOSP for a long time and therefore not something I'd personally be interested in, let alone buy.
Another spam thread. Don't listen to hear say because that only leads to disappointment! Wait for the official announcement from Samsung.
speedyjay said:
Another spam thread. Don't listen to hear say because that only leads to disappointment! Wait for the official announcement from Samsung.
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So sammobile, engadget and wall street journal are all spam news? Just face it, samsung has gived us the finger with this iphone-like pathway theyre taking.
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To be honest why would anyone with an Exynos Note 4 update; the SoC is only slightly improved as is the nand and ram, but the screen is pretty much the same and no microsd support nor swappable batteries? Being released in August also means no Android M at launch, which means you'll be waiting until Jan/Feb for the update. Guessing it'll have the same cameras as the S6 which is pretty much on par with the Note 4's.
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Agree wholeheartedly (if the rumours of features (or lack of) are anything to go by). Its a fat S6. That's it.
I see this as the end of the road for me and Samsung. In so many more ways - I won't buy their next tablet and find no need to buy their TV's which I do now because they integrate well with my phone and tablet. Game over.
All the benefits of the note series have been removed (SD slot, removable battery). I wonder also how easy the back is to shatter. Anyone chucked an s6 on the pavement yet!?
I don't care about larger faster phone memory. I don't care about wireless charging - we don't all carry charger around or have access to power sockets while out and about.
POOR decision Samsung - just because you are an Apple wannabe. In the past you did things differently - and that's what we liked about the note! You have missed a trick and no doubt your ability to remain a key player in the phone market / recover damaging lack of profit as you become more like apple in design everyday.
I've actually seen very few positive posts about the note 5. As opposed to when the N4 was in rumourville - excitement reigned. What a fail.
Note 5 = Samsung Galaxy S6 note
Bleh!
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Note 5 = Samsung Galaxy S6 note
Bleh!
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The Note line has always been a bigger and S-Pen'd version of the S series though. The Note 2 was a big S3 and the Note 3 a big S4 etc. So this hasn't stopped massive sales of the Note series. I do agree that it would be nice to have something different however, but Samsung (and other OEMs) make business decisions that sometimes don't seem right to consumers.
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but Samsung (and other OEMs) make business decisions that sometimes don't seem right to consumers.
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and watch their profits slump even further...
Well i want to know how they want to beat the leaked antutu score of the upcoming LG nexus 5 2015 (85000+) i own the snapdragon note 4 and hope the note 5 will be more powerfull in 3d performance.
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To be honest why would anyone with an Exynos Note 4 update; the SoC is only slightly improved as is the nand and ram, but the screen is pretty much the same and no microsd support nor swappable batteries? Being released in August also means no Android M at launch, which means you'll be waiting until Jan/Feb for the update. Guessing it'll have the same cameras as the S6 which is pretty much on par with the Note 4's.
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Note 5 will have RAW camera support - it is huge difference between Note 4 and 5.
Battery 4100 vs 3200 is enormous improvement - it is not "non removable". Every battery can be replaced but it will take more to do. You will not do this in train.
Lack of SD card is not an issue IMHO.
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Agree wholeheartedly (if the rumours of features (or lack of) are anything to go by). Its a fat S6. That's it.
I see this as the end of the road for me and Samsung. In so many more ways - I won't buy their next tablet and find no need to buy their TV's which I do now because they integrate well with my phone and tablet. Game over.
All the benefits of the note series have been removed (SD slot, removable battery). I wonder also how easy the back is to shatter. Anyone chucked an s6 on the pavement yet!?
I don't care about larger faster phone memory. I don't care about wireless charging - we don't all carry charger around or have access to power sockets while out and about.
POOR decision Samsung - just because you are an Apple wannabe. In the past you did things differently - and that's what we liked about the note! You have missed a trick and no doubt your ability to remain a key player in the phone market / recover damaging lack of profit as you become more like apple in design everyday.
I've actually seen very few positive posts about the note 5. As opposed to when the N4 was in rumourville - excitement reigned. What a fail.
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Here's a new flash for you. Was the previous Note's not a model after the S line at the time? This is nothing new.
What iPhone and iPad will you be switching to? With your change, you can now get the new 99.5" Apple Liquid Cooled LED and it comes with 3D contacts for free.
The benefits of having a removable SD slot and battery are very subjective:
The ability to add more storage and to swap out the battery is great, however, you can also accomplish this with a battery bank and Cloud storage. Obviously the swap is more convenient, but at the end of the day you obtain the same results. The fact here is that most users don't swap out batteries left and right and the same goes for SD Cards. Solution = Back up your phone, keep it organized, use a Cloud, keep only what you really need and eliminate dead weight files just sitting on your phone, and use a battery bank. There are a lot to choose from.
Any phone that is dropped will take a beating. There's no way around it unless you obviously have a nice case on it that can take an impact to protect the phone. Basing a buying decision on whether a phone will hold up from a drop is a little far fetched. Any phone will incur some damage. Solution = Insurance, which with TM JUMP it's all included. Well and of course use a good case.
If you don't care about a faster phone with more memory, than just stick with the Note 4. What's the problem?
The decision on Samsung's part is based on the majority. Welcome to the real world. That's just how it works. Samsung will always be a key player in the phone market, whether you like it or not. They are a huge multi-billion dollar conglomerate with many different divisions other than mobile phones.
Apple wannabe? Hmmm...Samsung creates the phablet culture and years later Apple comes out with the iPhone 6 Plus and....this makes Samsung a wannabe? I don't think so.... mind you Samsung and LG (both S.Korean giants) provide numerous parts for Apple products. iPhone's IPS Screen is LG, internal motherboard and varies chip-sets are by Samsung, battery cell is Samsung and more.... Some variants were slightly different where some variants had IPS's by Sharp, which Samsung owns a part of Sharp. So before you go blabbering about calling a Tech Giant a wannabe, I'd think twice about it.... but of course you're just speaking out of emotions right?
Here's some food for thought to help you understand further Samsung's decision:
Most people don't need more than 64GB of storage.
Most people don't swap out batteries twice a day.
Most people have several charging options available to them at any given time. Home, Work, Car, Battery Bank, etc...
So being that these are true for the vast majority, it is very logical for Samsung to have made the decision to change up the design language in going with a uni-body frame, that bring about many benefits.
Lets look at the positive:
The Note 5 has...
Way bigger battery (4100mAh) from the Note 4.
Bigger storage option. 128GB
Faster and better CPU.
More RAM.
Better screen. (tba)
Flat front glass, which is a dream come true for glass-screen protector users. (No more 2.5D madness. Finally an edge to edge coverage.)
Uni Body frame...stronger, sturdier, lighter, and just overall a better platform to be able to pack the punch.
Not everyone has the same needs.
Finally the ultimate solution. For all the whiners. SOLUTION = STAY WITH YOUR NOTE 4!
SIMPLE...Everyone's happy.
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The Note line has always been a bigger and S-Pen'd version of the S series though. The Note 2 was a big S3 and the Note 3 a big S4 etc. So this hasn't stopped massive sales of the Note series. I do agree that it would be nice to have something different however, but Samsung (and other OEMs) make business decisions that sometimes don't seem right to consumers.
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Well said. It's funny how so many people find it such a surprise that the Note 5 models after the S6, like it's some big surprise.
Kids....SMH
iunlock said:
SD card slot is not a benefit in today's world with Unlimited Cloud storage. If you really need more than 128GB of storage then use a cloud. Simple.
Removable battery? Who cares! Like 4100mAh isn't enough. That's what chargers are for...ever heard of battery banks?
It cracks me up to see people like you crying over petty stuff and completely over looking the benefits of the new releases...
Note 5:
Better built aluminum uni-body phone.
Better Screen.
Bigger internal SD storage. Upto 128GB
Bigger battery. 4100mAh
Faster CPU.
More RAM.
Best of all, a smooth front screen for all the Glass screen protector fans out there. Finally...edge to edge coverage.
Not everyone has the same needs, but you act like the pattern of the note series all of a sudden has changed? Of course the Note 5 will model after the S6. As it was for the Note 4....so what's the fuss?
Good luck with your make over lol... cracks me up...
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What an obnoxious post. Who's crying?? Simply feeding back my dis-satisfaction with the change of direction made. This is an open forum and I don't see any rules suggesting myself and many others can't do this.:silly:
If you want a phone that looks like an S6 or ip6, why buy the Note???! - which has always been targeted at high users that do want the flexibility it provides.
It now becomes an S6 plus or an overpriced Oneplus with a stylus..
I'll wait and see, I guess.
MicroSD card and replaceable battery are critical to my use (I swap batteries at least once a day), and I'd really like if the western versions of the Note5 had Dual SIM support.
The Notes are work tools, not fashion accessories, and I use them as such.
The Brand New Galaxy NOTE 5 has just been officially announced by Samsung. Its pretty obvious that a lot of Galaxy Note 4 users were excited about the New device till they got the knowledge of what was under the hood. What was really making the New device tick. This instead brought up some mixed feelings (and made some of us curious and some even mad).
So judging from the information we already have about the Galaxy Note 5 (if not, try here) the obvious and most important question is: Is it a worthy Upgrade from what you already own? and another question is: WILL YOU UPGRADE?
Lets vote, vote, vote and try predicting the fate of the New NOTE.
Samsung decided for me, they won't even let me buy it.
No. I won't, and I always do. I change phones 3 times a year. I'm an addict. I had GS6 and switched to G4 which I like better. I was 100% sure I'd buy the Note 5, but when they decided to just take the S6 and make it bigger, and add the S pen I decided against it. Note has always been a premium device, not a bigger gs6. This reeks of Samsung choking the profit out of its loyal following like Apple with there S upgrade.
What will happen? It will sell. The Sammy Sheep will follow their Shepard. I also believe there are more consumers who have NO IDEA about the SOC and tech info who will just buy the big phone.
I'm going to look at the Moto Pure, and even though it has the 808, I don't feel like Moto is trying to stick it to me like Samsung.
Man LG has a golden opportunity. Let's hope they know it and act on it. If they'd put out a 5.7 " screen with a bigger removable battery, SD card, stylus, and the 820 they'd kill it
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Definitely not. As dicemaster said, it wont be available in my country. Furthermore, not worthy enough tot replace my 910c.
lol is that even a question? yet still better joke then samsung made.
LOL. I think it's clear from this poll that the Note 5 hasn't been well received by the kind of people who post here, generally hardcore users. No doubt Samsung hopes that casual users will make up for that but I doubt that will happen. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and release a better Note 6. Till then I am happy to continue with the Note 4 which is still great and probably the best smartphone available.
Say No For Glass
using Glass was such a stupid idea
The fact that my line's still on contract until December 2016 aside (yes, Sprint still does contract pricing on our grandfathered plan), why would I downgrade to a Note 5 when I have a Note 4 that does more (removable battery, microSD, IR blaster) and is already quite fast and responsive on 5.1.1 OG5?
The only good thing I have to say about the Note 5 right now is that it just makes the existing Note 4 that much more valuable, possibly the last great Samsung phone if they don't get their act together for the Note 6.
No way. Looks like it's all downhill from here on in for Sammy.
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To me the Note 5 presentation was an EPIC FAIL.
Far to many praising words "awesome, great, design, best, word's first, etc..." and very little content.
They could make the whole presentation in a few seconds, "The S6 edge plus, the larger S6 edge. The Note 5 the larger s6 with a pen."
I saw people clapping for no reason, even for the 90s style cheap looking plastic keyboard/cover which was in fact the only thing new they could show us.
WOW... Samsung you made history!
i dont spent my money in this trash.my note 4 is better then 5.for some extras of note 5 i wait the devs...
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Samsung Galaxy Note 5 versus Note 4: What's the difference?
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5-versus-note-4-whats-difference
I beg to differ. I think the Note 5 offers a whole different design to the Note series. Yes it's like S6 blown up, but the core functionality of Note is still there. Note 5 is like an improvement over Note 4, albeit without a SD card and removable battery. I await to see battery scores before I make the switch. If you've handled (and love) the S6/S6 Edge, I'm pretty certain you'll love the Note 5.
I'll just counter no SD card with this:
http://www.sandisk.sg/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
Also, since the S$1188 64GB Note 5 is available in Singapore from Saturday 15 August onwards (not a typo!) with preorder goodies like Fast Wireless Charging Pad amongst others, I might just switch!! Awaiting the hands-on tomorrow.
Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover.Extra for some
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram and a faster type
Better camera in low light both back and front
Faster flash drive
Bad
Dont come 2 europé
No exchangable battery. Honestly dont use it much, but its good 2 have
And no SD
For me its sadly no buy even IF it it did come to Sweden. ?
Edit: no Ir and no usb C
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3kgt said:
Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram
Better camera
Bad
Dont come 2 europé
No exchangable battery. Honestly dont use it much, but its good 2 have
And no SD
For me its sadly no buy even IF it it did come to Sweden.
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None of the plus sides you list compensates for micro sd slot.
Wireless charging is always sluggish and useless to me, 4gb ram is only noticed in heavy multitasking and found in 1/3rd of the price Asus Zenfone 2, Keyboard cover is ugly, pointless and useless, speakers are not a pro (not front facing stereo speakers), Samsung pay will only work when Note 6 or 7 is launched, cpu performance of the note 4 was never an issue, camera is practically the same.
Looking at Note 4 firmware track records, you can assume that the Note 5 will be forgotten by Samsung after one year.
no removable battery+no sd card.......well i came from lg and since lg will lauche the g4 pro with 5.8 inchs+above 20 pixel camera....and not to mention the next g flex 3...probably going back to lg!!!
personally it dont worth the upgrade....
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LOL. I think it's clear from this poll that the Note 5 hasn't been well received by the kind of people who post here, generally hardcore users. No doubt Samsung hopes that casual users will make up for that but I doubt that will happen. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and release a better Note 6. Till then I am happy to continue with the Note 4 which is still great and probably the best smartphone available.
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BOOM!! +1000!!
You hit the nail on the head, exactly my thoughts.
The Note 5 just made my Note 4 more precious, I am going to stick with it, get a 128GB MicroSDXC for it and a new case as it will have to serve me another year now, no thanks to Samsung!
Samsung has disappointed the most loyal of users, the 'Power Users', they actually do not realise how influential we can be, especially thanks to popular tech sites, blogs and YouTube reviewers. They are going to pay hard for this mess!
I changed my batteri like to times today because I was a busy and used it all day it save me a lot of work and was online the hole day without any plugging until now of course, and it seems I can't do that with the note 5 so no not at all I will keep note 4 until they come with a better one next year with an exchangeable battery this is seriously the only reason I picked the note 4 , thy've should keept the note series far away from the S series they so dumb if next year the same design I'm going to LG that for sure
Can't believe Sammy would throw away all the things that made the note stand out. Am definitely not getting a note 5.
3kgt said:
Plus side
Wireless charging
Keyboard cover
Speakers?! Not sure there
Samsung pay
Octa core and less battery drain
4gb ram
Better camera
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Wireless Chargin: Already have the cover...
Keyboard cover: wtf?
speakers?: not a plus if it isn't known or confirmed.
Samsung pay: (isn't this just beepngo tech? doesn't the note4 have this?)
octacore and less drain: This is probably true, but it will only offset for the smaller battery most likely.
4gb ram: this is definitely a plus, but only if their software isn't a memory hog.
better camera: I believe it is the exact same camera.
This poll is actually insane! I haven't seen a new launch device have the community so polarized against purchasing it ... 92% not liking it... that isn't good for business samsung.
I personally could have gotten on board with a non-replaceable battery, but to kill the sd card too... not good. They should have just given it a little tray. Isn't samsung the biggest retailer of sdxc cards anyways? what the heck.. don't they want to sell sdxc cards to everyone?
With the Note5 taking a stepback from the Note 4 WRT removing Memory Card, no IR Blaster, Removable battery etc etc... And now the Note7 having faulty batteries that are smaller than the S7 Edge battery, no IR Blaster etc... I thought I'd start a Note 4 Appreciation thread where we can post what we like about our beloved Note 4.
I honestly thought I was going to get a Note 7, but with the delays, its had me looking and wondering why I want to upgrade when the Note 4 can still hold its own so well.
The Removable Battery has allowed me to extend my Note4's usage life, as I replaced battery at a low cost with another OEM one, and I plan on getting another just in case the S8 Edge and Note 8 disappoint, or until I find a TRUE Note4 upgrade.
Interesting that since 2014 not one OEM incl. Samsung can truly replicate the sheer prowess of the Note 4
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POLO_i780 said:
The Removable Battery has allowed me to extend my Note4's usage life, as I replaced battery at a low cost with another OEM one, and I plan on getting another just in case the S8 Edge and Note 8 disappoint, or until I find a TRUE Note4 upgrade.
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This.
With a new battery, a new screen protector, a new case, and a factory reset after Marshmallow upgrade, this is like a new phone. I have zero problems, zero complaints, and zero reason to 'upgrade' to a phone that actually has less features. Sadly, I don't think the versatility of the Note 4 will be replicated any time soon, so I'm hoping to get another few years out of this one!
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My N910C is working just fine, it does whatever I want it to do. It runs all my apps and games without any problems. I have a excellent case for it. All I need to do is get a Gear VR unit to try out the VR platform and wait for my replacement spare battery to arrive.
While I don't have the "zero complaint" part, still its needless to say Note 4 was the last practical mobile phone Samsung had ever released. I don't want a f***ing jewellery, but a mobile phone, where Note 4 ends.
For me the Note 4 is the best phone I have ever used. I considered uprgading to S7 edge but I dont find it that much of an upgrade to buy one. The Note still has a great camera which produces high quality pictures, for me only S6 got a better camera. The performance is great all games and apps are running smooth even in native resolution with Game Tuner. The screen is gorgeous and its pretty bright in sunlight. The removable battery, IR blaster and SD card are great companions. This device still dont have any true rival, atleast for me. Probably Note 8 will make me upgrade from my Note 4. I found that the best Notes for me are those with even numbers 2,4, maybe 8? So yes, Note 4, best device ever.
Must say, also appreciate the fact that the Note 4 is one of the last phones that is still durable without a dam case or cover.
The last Note that doesn't require protection.
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I agree wholeheartedly, many people dont realize how useful it is to replace the batteries on the go, and the durability of the device is more than great I dont even use any cases since I bought it 2 years ago, alot of N7 owners had their back cover cracked in first week! I think samsung hit the ceiling with N4.
Note 8 should remove the back glass and give us removable battery if it wants to get back on track and give us a real reason to upgrade, I just bought GTX 1080 instead of N7 cause I know it well last me more than 2~3 years and it will be worth the upgrade from 580
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My N910C is working just fine, it does whatever I want it to do. It runs all my apps and games without any problems. I have a excellent case for it. All I need to do is get a Gear VR unit to try out the VR platform and wait for my replacement spare battery to arrive.
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Now that I have a 910c, I can honestly say this phone could have come out in 2016 and competed against anything on the market...
It's THAT good.
So happy I decided to get this one vs upgrading to a newer phone and just paying the higher depreciation for nothing
tiguy99 said:
Now that I have a 910c, I can honestly say this phone could have come out in 2016 and competed against anything on the market...
It's THAT good.
So happy I decided to get this one vs upgrading to a newer phone and just paying the higher depreciation for nothing
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Yeah, the N910C can still hold it's own even against the modern flagships of today.
Get real guys, Samsung will never produce another Note with removable battery...you can bet on this.
I guess Samsung consider more important waterproof than removable batteries...and this definitely kills the removable batteries and external SD cards.
But, i got to say...this the best phone i've ever had...great quality construction, love the dark laterals with the silver edges, it's fast and has an amazing screen...
I don't intend trade for another Note, the problem it's to find a better phone, because speed it's not enough...
Well, I have had all the Notes (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) except for the Note 7...
Number 4 is definitely a beast among them. I owned the Note 3 chronologically, then I bought LG G4 (by mistake), then I had an annoying the Note 5. As soon as I sold the Note 5, I immediately bought the Note 4 and this, to my mind, was an upgrade over nubmer 5 rather than downgrade.
The Note 4 is the last galaxy device where engineers still beat marketing managers out.
The Note 5 and 7 is for those who are marketing-hypnotizable and realy don't have any motivation to change a device or dependent on figures (AnTuTu results, OS update figire, etc.)
Working as a charm, the Note 4 is a beast for practical people too.
ProzakVizaq said:
Well, I have had all the Notes (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) except for the Note 7...
Number 4 is definitely a beast among them. I owned the Note 3 chronologically, then I bought LG G4 (by mistake), then I had an annoying the Note 5. As soon as I sold the Note 5, I immediately bought the Note 4 and this, to my mind, was an upgrade over nubmer 5 rather than downgrade.
The Note 4 is the last galaxy device where engineers still beat marketing managers out.
The Note 5 and 7 is for those who are marketing-hypnotizable and realy don't have any motivation to change a device or dependent on figures (AnTuTu results, OS update figire, etc.)
Working as a charm, the Note 4 is a beast for practical people too.
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I bought a Note 4 N910F about 3 weeks ago as I was looking for an upgrade. I had my eye on it for a while as it still has everything I need in a phone in 2016. Once a stable, fully featured Note 7 ROM is ported , this device will be given new life
paddymcg1 said:
I bought a Note 4 N910F about 3 weeks ago as I was looking for an upgrade. I had my eye on it for a while as it still has everything I need in a phone in 2016. Once a stable, fully featured Note 7 ROM is ported , this device will be given new life
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This!!!!!
So happy I bought this phone recently as well
No doubt there are some promising new phones out but this one else puts a lot of them to shame
Samsung put everything they have into the Note 4 and it shows.
2 years later and it runs as if it just came out...no slow downs nothing
I recently bought a "as new" Note 4. My daily driver is a Lenovo Zuk Z1 running a stock CM12 out of the box.
Comparing both...difficult. The Zuk1 is fast, very fast and I have the feeling faster that the Note 4 running on a fresh MM.
Not even mentioning the huge battery in the Zuk.
I would be very tempted buying a Note 4 dual sim but I have learned that sim 2 slot on the Note 4 has limitations in 3g etc.
The Zuk Z1 dual sim has no limitations...I can swap the 3g function from one sim to the other, I can deactivate sim 1 or sim 2 separately something which is apparently no longer possible under MM.
Back to the Note 4, I love the design, the S Pen, the display...I agree that Samsung hit a home-run with this phone.
I bought a second Note 4 with a defective display...I will replace the display as this is still doable at home. Looked on youtube how to replace a display on a note 5 and here its no longer an easy task.
So the wife will soon have her Note 4, she still using a Note 2 currently...
The good thing is that the Note 4 has been sold in huge numbers so lots of spares to be found and cheap ones with cosmetic damage!
filthydani112 said:
I agree wholeheartedly, many people dont realize how useful it is to replace the batteries on the go, and the durability of the device is more than great I dont even use any cases since I bought it 2 years ago, alot of N7 owners had their back cover cracked in first week! I think samsung hit the ceiling with N4.
Note 8 should remove the back glass and give us removable battery if it wants to get back on track and give us a real reason to upgrade, I just bought GTX 1080 instead of N7 cause I know it well last me more than 2~3 years and it will be worth the upgrade from 580
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GTX 1080 FTW! I also upgraded from a 500-series card (570) and, wow, what a difference! I even upgraded my monitor to take full advantage of the 1080 GTX's power.
Back on topic, I love my Note 4 910C. Skipped both the Note 5 & 7. Only weakness is the camera, IMO, compared to more modern flagships.
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ruicc said:
Get real guys, Samsung will never produce another Note with removable battery...you can bet on this.
I guess Samsung consider more important waterproof than removable batteries...and this definitely kills the removable batteries and external SD cards.
But, i got to say...this the best phone i've ever had...great quality construction, love the dark laterals with the silver edges, it's fast and has an amazing screen...
I don't intend trade for another Note, the problem it's to find a better phone, because speed it's not enough...
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It is still possible to make a device with a removable battery water resistant as Samsung has proven that it is possible when they released the SGS5 and SGS5 Neo. It's just that allot of people don't want plastic phones as they think they are cheap and want phones with a glass and metal sandwich construction as they feel that is more "premium".
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Back on topic, I love my Note 4 910C. Skipped both the Note 5 & 7. Only weakness is the camera, IMO, compared to more modern flagships.
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I think the ISOCELL sensor on my N910C takes excellent shots and in some instances it takes better shots than the SGS6 and Note 5.
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I think the ISOCELL sensor on my N910C takes excellent shots and in some instances it takes better shots than the SGS6 and Note 5.
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That is so true!
I was at least disappointed with vaunted LG G4 camera when it spoiled all my outdoor New Year night photos with lots of illumination in auto mode. Note 4 cam did it way better
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I was at least disappointed with vaunted LG G4 camera when it spoiled all my outdoor New Year night photos with lots of illumination in auto mode. Note 4 cam did it way better
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The problem with the camera on the LG G4 is that the laser auto focus was always wondering around looking for a focal point. It could never get a good lock on a single focal point.
This thread really made my day. I just bought a note 4 yesterday and i am already in love with it.