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Found this on Drip FOR N900 versions
Links to how and where to get it..
http://androidadvices.com/samsung-g...ler&utm_medium=Drippler&utm_campaign=Drippler
http://samsung-updates.com/details/40279/Galaxy_Note_3_Exynos/SM-N900/SER/N900XXUEBOA6.html
Note it may take a while to download, servers will be swamped !
It's only for the N900, not the N900A.
AUUUGGGHH
Still trying to find it for the 900a version...........
Still no luck finding a download for our 900A phones.
Wish they would stop dragging their feet and get the updates out to ALL providers, and out to ALL customers !
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Wish they would stop dragging their feet and get the updates out to ALL providers, and out to ALL customers !
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Samsung released it to AT&T a long time ago. AT&T likes to do extensive testing, so we don't end up screaming that our phones aren't working because Samsung made a typo. (Just look at all the threads on all the forums about problems with LolliFlop on other phones.)
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Samsung released it to AT&T a long time ago. AT&T likes to do extensive testing, so we don't end up screaming that our phones aren't working because Samsung made a typo. (Just look at all the threads on all the forums about problems with LolliFlop on other phones.)
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I am sure you are correct, but the testing is necessary only because of their bloatware that almost no one uses. I would pay a bit extra for AT&T to provide vanilla Android without all the bloat. They would make more $$ that way, in my opinion.
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They would make more $$ that way, in my opinion.
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From the small minority of us who care, like those posting on forums. The majority of their customers couldn't care less. (Unlock the bootloader and they'd make even more - from us .
The only testing they're doing is to make sure all their bloatware runs correctly.
Although vzw rushed out LP to the S5 and reviews have been nothing but horrible!
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The only testing they're doing is to make sure all their bloatware runs correctly.
Although vzw rushed out LP to the S5 and reviews have been nothing but horrible!
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And it was due to the Note 3 port, not the bloatware. I'd rather AT&T wait until at least 5.1, then test it extensively, and get all the remaining bugs out. I retired as an alpha tester long ago, and I got paid for doing it. I don't want to do it for free with a phone I bought from some company - it should work the first time. Which is why I'm still on 4.4.2, root and SafeStrap. The phone works, I can back up my whole data partition easily and I can flash any ROM I want (none so far - maybe Note 4 Evolution when they get the bugs out) that works with a locked bootloader. If the phone lasts, and it can still be used (my StarTAC, probably the best phone ever made, can't be activated any more, because phones have to have GPS now), it comes with me in the coffin, I don't need more phone. (It's not a phone, it's a Linux box that fits in my pocket - and it can do voice and text too.)
A company has a ton of customers. They are working on a project that affects their customers, their business and their bottom line.. They don't keep their customers in the loop. They don't announce deadlines, goals or objectives. They don't have the respect to even let us know about setbacks. It doesnt matter what the name of the company is, it sounds more like an issue of a company that should lose the respect of its customers and not a company to make excuses for. This behavior is inexcusable and unacceptable.
I know this is WAY off topic, but.
As a community at XDA we've gotten a one sided view of this. I've said this part before: As a community, XDA hosts around 5-6 million members, but this includes ALL devices, every single one of them. AT&T sold 10 million Note III's in the 1st month alone. So you can possibly get a feel of how minimal the Note III footprint is in the overall standing within the AT&T markets. We here are quite in the minority here at XDA in the grand scheme of things
Most people who own these devices (really any device for that matter) don't care about the latest and greatest ROM, when it comes out, or when it doesn't. They have a device, they need it to work the right way every time they try to do something with it; period, and no excuses.
They owe none of their customers any explanations as to the when/how/why/what, any upgrade comes out or doesn't for that matter. The amount of complaining would be off the charts if they pushed a release out without proper testing and it was a train wreck, or they said it would be coming out on "Date X" and they had to push back for some reason.
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Looks like Lollipop is out as of 3/24/2015.
I checked a little while ago and it is downloading now and on the charger at the same time. Maybe will have it on by tonight ?
Keeping fingers crossed ! It is a big download about 1.5 gig ? :good:
I did mine last night. Looks good so far
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Good so far...
Don't like their launcher set up. I use Go Launcher EX and have for a long time
Can't change the wallpaper on their launcher, no problem since I use EX
Don't think Do Not Disturb is working correctly ?
The other stuff, looks really nice and flows well...
And it is about 1.1 gig download, takes about a hour to totally install. Depending on your Internet speed. Plug it in why it is downloading, and it will be fully charged by the time it actually gets it all downloaded.......
Was thinking about getting the S6..... with all the complains about lollipop, is the tmobile version effected? I have a note 2 and it runs smooth with no memory issues. Don't want to jump into the S6 if it's the opposite.
That's exactly my point my gs3 and wife's gs5 can multitask like a champ.
Has yo be a gs6 thing.....perhaps a new touch wiz thing
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My S6 does not have a hard time multitasking, although I have removed lots of system apps and done other tweaking.
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Are you used to an iphone? since it multitasks like one.
Since lots of other people are having the same issue
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Are you used to an iphone? since it multitasks like one.
Since lots of other people are having the same issue
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Honestly, you can't really compare the GS6 to the iPhone. The hardware and software are completely different. On top of that, the OS is optimized for every single bit of hardware in the iPhone, as Apple exclusively releases updates directly to users. Android goes through Google > Samsung > Carriers, which can all do things to the OS to degrade performance.
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Honestly, you can't really compare the GS6 to the iPhone. The hardware and software are completely different. On top of that, the OS is optimized for every single bit of hardware in the iPhone, as Apple exclusively releases updates directly to users. Android goes through Google > Samsung > Carriers, which can all do things to the OS to degrade performance.
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Actually I was only comparing the multitasking .
With all the constant redraws when switching back and forth
Its not that bad really. Far from ideal for sure but the apps come back quickly at least . Never once have I said to myself that I wanted to return this phone because of it. But yeah its far from ideal and I dont know how they missed it while testing the firmware.
They hyped up the new touchwiz to be less bloated and faster. Yeah. OK.
Reboot your phone. All the bloat is in the ram and it shows. It's embarrassingly ridonkulous. I bet battery life would improve close to an hour of SOT over a day's worth of use IF IT WASN'T USING CPU ALL THE TIME TO RELOAD APPS AND REARRANGE BLOAT.
I am disgusted by you Samsung. 3GB of RAM. 3GB!!! Sad to say but I think the note 5 isn't even on my radar. You took removable batteries and expandable storage away from us. Not to mention multi tasking. And you didnt fix it with the 5.1.1 update. Not even close. Worst $700 I spent.
Ok cool...do you feel better now?
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I agree with the whole memory thing. It seems Touchwiz is still pretty bloated. Went into running process and showing all the cached ones the phone is using like 2 GB running hardly anything but Touchwiz and a few apps. Even with this issue its amazing that this phone is still far and away the best atm.
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They hyped up the new touchwiz to be less bloated and faster. Yeah. OK.
Reboot your phone. All the bloat is in the ram and it shows. It's embarrassingly ridonkulous. I bet battery life would improve close to an hour of SOT over a day's worth of use IF IT WASN'T USING CPU ALL THE TIME TO RELOAD APPS AND REARRANGE BLOAT.
I am disgusted by you Samsung. 3GB of RAM. 3GB!!! Sad to say but I think the note 5 isn't even on my radar. You took removable batteries and expandable storage away from us. Not to mention multi tasking. And you didnt fix it with the 5.1.1 update. Not even close. Worst $700 I spent.
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I agree 100% and to top it all off theres no damn cm 12 roms!!! Wtf developers are sleeping on this $700 phone, this saddens me to the max, i am so close to taking on the moto x 2014 deal for $400 stock android 64gb, its not like the 64bit processor made an effin difference at all... samsucks can go screw themselves.. im stuck with this shiity phone... i can only imagine how crazy cm12 would have been on this phone... but them devs too busy on cheaper phones.. with all them donations cm team should be able to buy the phone to work on it...da faq?..smfh im out ragged!
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People who build CM roms don't owe any one of us a ROM for the device. If you really that unhappy with the device then sell it simple as that.
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I agree 100% and to top it all off theres no damn cm 12 roms!!! Wtf developers are sleeping on this $700 phone, this saddens me to the max, i am so close to taking on the moto x 2014 deal for $400 stock android 64gb, its not like the 64bit processor made an effin difference at all... samsucks can go screw themselves.. im stuck with this shiity phone... i can only imagine how crazy cm12 would have been on this phone... but them devs too busy on cheaper phones.. with all them donations cm team should be able to buy the phone to work on it...da faq?..smfh im out ragged!
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I'm sure you've noticed, the dev scene is gone. Just like ios got a lot of features from the jailbreak tweaks, Android has gotten a lot of features from rooted roms. Honestly, what do you need a custom rom for nowadays? Unlimited hotspot? That's really the only feature left for them to make standard.
And don't say it's because you want a vanilla phone. If you want vanilla, don't buy an S6. Buy a nexus. The CM Team has all but dissolved.
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I'm sure you've noticed, the dev scene is gone. Just like ios got a lot of features from the jailbreak tweaks, Android has gotten a lot of features from rooted roms. Honestly, what do you need a custom rom for nowadays? Unlimited hotspot? That's really the only feature left for them to make standard.
And don't say it's because you want a vanilla phone. If you want vanilla, don't buy an S6. Buy a nexus. The CM Team has all but dissolved.
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Dude, dude, dude, listen here... nexus 5 and or 6 does not have a 64bit processor...and 2nd can u imagine cyanogenmod/stock android runnin on a 64bit processor? It would be as fluid as the iphone... so all the guts inside the new s6 are for nothing....because they arent being exploited...their sitting inside my phone for nothing...
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I wouldn't say they are all for nothing. The performance on the phone is the smoothest and fastest I ever had on any phone. The battery life for a device with its battery size and screen resolution is very good as well. The only bone I have to pick is just the memory management. I wonder how the international releases of 5.1.1. will be. I'm not expecting anything really different but you never know. I'm still enjoying the experience of this phone and even if I wanted to get rid of it there isn't anything out there at the moment that I would rather have.
I thought this site was XDA-Developers not XDA-CryBabies ???
Seriously, why are you whining? Go exchange the phone it's that simple. I for one and loving my S6 and would never even dare to put wackkk CM on here to ruin the amazing camera. Go buy a 1+1 if ya want CM......
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I agree with the whole memory thing. It seems Touchwiz is still pretty bloated. Went into running process and showing all the cached ones the phone is using like 2 GB running hardly anything but Touchwiz and a few apps. Even with this issue its amazing that this phone is still far and away the best atm.
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~2.7GB of tocuhwiz and bloat and allowing other apps to reside in ram. How can it far and away the beat?
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I wouldn't say they are all for nothing. The performance on the phone is the smoothest and fastest I ever had on any phone. The battery life for a device with its battery size and screen resolution is very good as well. The only bone I have to pick is just the memory management. I wonder how the international releases of 5.1.1. will be. I'm not expecting anything really different but you never know. I'm still enjoying the experience of this phone and even if I wanted to get rid of it there isn't anything out there at the moment that I would rather have.
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Smoothest and fastest on any phone? Let me introduce you to 5.1.1 on my nexus 5 and HTC one m8gpe. Nexus 5 is about same in performance, HTC one m8 is noticeably quicker but neither have memory management problems with 32bit CPU and 2/3GB of RAM.
Not only did Samsung drop the ball but they lied about less bloat and just hid it in the RAM. My note4 isnt as smooth but it sure as hell manages memory a lot better and there is room for improvement at that. Many of us feel burned at the potential wasted at the expense of Samsung's poor coding, selfishness and lies.
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[email protected]^$ did u not read?!?!?! Moto X 2014/ Nexus 5 and 6/ and one plus one or any lhone before the s6 has a 64 bit processor? Wtf why would i get an out dated phone makes no sense... now if u said the one plus 2 or the next moto X then ok...but one plus one has not 64bit processor!!!!!
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Essentially, what I'm reading is that you bought an S6, to not have an S6. The Nexus 6 may not have a 64-bit processor, but it is one of the smoothest running phones in existence. If it's that important to you, learn to build your own ROM. Be the dev you want to see. If it's not that important to you, don't complain about the phone you purchased. You could've waited for the next stock andrid phone.
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@Slicktune you bought the wrong phone. You've been *****ing about CM since a few days after the S6 dropped. We'll be lucky if we see CM before the end of the year, realistically. I'd say there's a 70% chance we'll never see it. So, either suck it up and deal with TW or bounce to the next device.
When did Samsung say there would be less bloat or better ram management? You saw all of that on blogs which have no connection to Samsung
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~2.7GB of tocuhwiz and bloat and allowing other apps to reside in ram. How can it far and away the beat?
Smoothest and fastest on any phone? Let me introduce you to 5.1.1 on my nexus 5 and HTC one m8gpe. Nexus 5 is about same in performance, HTC one m8 is noticeably quicker but neither have memory management problems with 32bit CPU and 2/3GB of RAM.
Not only did Samsung drop the ball but they lied about less bloat and just hid it in the RAM. My note4 isnt as smooth but it sure as hell manages memory a lot better and there is room for improvement at that. Many of us feel burned at the potential wasted at the expense of Samsung's poor coding, selfishness and lies.
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You're speaking to someone who had both of those devices. Memory management was superior on 5.1.1. on the Nexus but this phone beats it in performance and battey.
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When did Samsung say there would be less bloat or better ram management? You saw all of that on blogs which have no connection to Samsung
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I love when people get disappointed that something that was only rumored was not included in an update. Let's see if they acknowledge this issue.
Never understood why Members post or make these threads, if you are so unhappy with your device, you can go here and then get what you want----->> http://swappa.com/
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Howdy folks! I'd like to ask all of you SGS6 Edge users for your opinions regarding the "worthiness" of retaining root vs updating. For the TLDR please go to the bottom! :good:
I used to be super active on here, making small tweaks/apps for people all starting around the Droid Bionic ... so lets just say I'm not stranger to the world of root/customization.
With that being said, since the peak of my crack-flashing habit during the days of the Galaxy S3 I have slowed down quite a bit. Part of that is my own life (I'm older, have way more responsibility at home)...but I believe a much larger factor has been locked phones and a quieter development scene (at least with Samsung devices).
I've had my Edge rooted since the root became available - and I suppose I mostly use it to access the file system, remove bloat, and run the occasional "root only" app.
In the time that I've been rooted on OE2 (running CleanROM 1.5) there have been a few rather large updates to the phone's software both aimed at fixing issues and adding features. As I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone, root hasn't been attained for these new releases .. and I'm somewhat skeptical that it ever will as this device becomes "older".
SO the TLDR here is:
How many of you who HAD their Edge rooted decided to give up root to update their device? Was it worth it to you? Would you do it again if you had the chance, or would you have just kept root?
I updated and I wouldn't go back. Sure I miss the ad blocking and some other fun stuff, but the phone is so much more stable and usable after the updates. If you don't use root for much (which I didn't considering we never got Xposed anyway) I'd recommend doing the update, personally. I followed basically the same path as you. I flashed a new ROM or kernel basically daily on my S3, and have slowly felt more of a need for a more usable phone than being able to tweak it beyond recognition. If you're anything like I am now, you'll appreciate the stability that upgrading brings.
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I updated and I wouldn't go back. Sure I miss the ad blocking and some other fun stuff, but the phone is so much more stable and usable after the updates. If you don't use root for much (which I didn't considering we never got Xposed anyway) I'd recommend doing the update, personally. I followed basically the same path as you. I flashed a new ROM or kernel basically daily on my S3, and have slowly felt more of a need for a more usable phone than being able to tweak it beyond recognition. If you're anything like I am now, you'll appreciate the stability that upgrading brings.
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I'm definitely leaning in that direction. I think a big part of it is literally mental/mind over matter ... just knowing my phone is more my phone and less Verizon's certainly makes an impact.
I updated as well, the phone is running better I think. I do miss ad blocking and tb. Being able to disable apps is helpful. Sometimes I wish I wouldn't have but for the most part I'm happy with it. I hate that Verizon is making us make this decision. The struggle is real!
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Howdy folks! I'd like to ask all of you SGS6 Edge users for your opinions regarding the "worthiness" of retaining root vs updating. For the TLDR please go to the bottom! :good:
I used to be super active on here, making small tweaks/apps for people all starting around the Droid Bionic ... so lets just say I'm not stranger to the world of root/customization.
With that being said, since the peak of my crack-flashing habit during the days of the Galaxy S3 I have slowed down quite a bit. Part of that is my own life (I'm older, have way more responsibility at home)...but I believe a much larger factor has been locked phones and a quieter development scene (at least with Samsung devices).
I've had my Edge rooted since the root became available - and I suppose I mostly use it to access the file system, remove bloat, and run the occasional "root only" app.
In the time that I've been rooted on OE2 (running CleanROM 1.5) there have been a few rather large updates to the phone's software both aimed at fixing issues and adding features. As I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone, root hasn't been attained for these new releases .. and I'm somewhat skeptical that it ever will as this device becomes "older".
SO the TLDR here is:
How many of you who HAD their Edge rooted decided to give up root to update their device? Was it worth it to you? Would you do it again if you had the chance, or would you have just kept root?
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I was a hardcore Samsung user until the Note 3/S4 when root became more difficult to obtain and keep (updating). I even bought a Developer S5 so I could crack flash. As of late, the Galaxy line and development (for Verizon at least) is dead. If you want root/development on Verizon ditch the S6E and get a MXP. You can sell your used phone for about what a brand new unlocked Moto X Pure will cost you....unlockable bootloader, development, and a sd card.
I wouldn't buy a computer without administrative rights and I won't buy (and keep) a phone that I can't obtain root on.
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Went through the same dilemma. The final straw for me was finding Package Disabler Pro (costs like 2.99) and that allowed me to at least disable the bloatware and remove it to a degree. I was really worried about losing Viper4android, greenify, and adaway. So far using the built in sound equalizer, the ram management improvements, theme store and the adblocker browser have been more then sufficient in maintaining the experience I was used to. Overall 10/10 experience would un-root again.
I was rooted and gave it up to get up to date. Without Xposed there really was not that much important stuff I wanted from root.
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Went through the same dilemma. The final straw for me was finding Package Disabler Pro (costs like 2.99) and that allowed me to at least disable the bloatware and remove it to a degree. I was really worried about losing Viper4android, greenify, and adaway. So far using the built in sound equalizer, the ram management improvements, theme store and the adblocker browser have been more then sufficient in maintaining the experience I was used to. Overall 10/10 experience would un-root again.
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Same here. Once I found package disabler I was very happy losing root for the update.
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Please I use package disabler, and I ask it to disable bloat ware but I realised most of useful stuffs were also disabled. Can I kindly get a list of stuffs you safely disabled without affecting phone functionality
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Can you upload your xml file
Here is my XML. I didn't do an extremely thorough debloat but it gets rid of most of my useless icons and speeds things up a bit. No negative effects from it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6jz8Bcr3sVVemw0MzYwa3Z5eTg/view?usp=docslist_api
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If,,,,with the delays from Samsung, my S6 Edge gets MM I have serious doubts that I will update my phone. I will most likely wait until MM has been proven to be something better enough for me to lose root. However, I am still very shocked that this phone does not have any dev support? I know carriers like Verizon make it hard, if not impossible, to root but c'mon now I know there are devs out there that could crack this but they have either stopped or moved on to paid positions helping find exploits for carriers and manufacturers.
Thanks
I am currently running a rooted edge, which I did right after the phone's release. I will be updating to a non-rooted marshmellow as it has the permissions control, which is what I originally wanted root for.
However I will really miss not having the csv editor as I have been able to tweak the phone a lot due to some stupid samsung decisions.
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If,,,,with the delays from Samsung, my S6 Edge gets MM I have serious doubts that I will update my phone. I will most likely wait until MM has been proven to be something better enough for me to lose root. However, I am still very shocked that this phone does not have any dev support? I know carriers like Verizon make it hard, if not impossible, to root but c'mon now I know there are devs out there that could crack this but they have either stopped or moved on to paid positions helping find exploits for carriers and manufacturers.
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I did end up giving up root. While there's plenty of things I miss, I have to admit the update has been a very good experience.
I think a lot of devs have moved on to paid positions as network security becomes one of the most lucrative industries out there. I also think carriers put a lot more emphasis on locking down their devices now than they did previously (call me captain obvious on that one..)
If only the bootloader unlock would be leaked like it was for the GS3
How does Tasker work with the unroot MM update? I have so many profiles I do not want to lose in Tasker.
I've given Samsung (and Google) the benefit of the doubt and tried their new phone and new UI software. I returned my S10 and reverted my Note 9 back to Oreo. Now life makes sense again for me. I'm also someone who's guilty of impulse purchases. I'm trying to be better about that. Mobile tech can be addicting.
The new UI on the Note 9 feels like it's been crippled. Like Google, and to a certain extent Samsung, are inching closer and closer to Apple territory. Meaning that they are removing more and more features away and pushing users into tighter boxes. Call recording apps, theming apps, greater control over GPS settings, greater control over camera settings, easier to understand camera settings, and just other faux improvements that leave users feeling like they're using a half-baked OS.
The S10 was fine enough but without the features and apps that I've grown to dearly depend on my Oreo Note 9, I couldn't live with it. It makes me realize that there is no hope that such apps and features will ever make it to the new Note later this fall either.
Not without root. And that means that unless I want to keep this Oreo Note 9 for the rest of its life, any future Note device will have to be Exynos. Which makes me a bit disappointed because the SD chips have been bringing some great features to these phones. But we will never be able to count on reliable unlocking of SD Samsung phones here in North America so from now on it's Exynos for me because I will be relying on root access to get the features that I want but more importantly the features that I NEED.
I'm curious if anyone else feels the same way about this. About Oreo and the direction Samsung and Google are moving from here. I just wish we could stay on Oreo and continue getting security patches and other bug fixes along the way. Without being forced to switch to Pie. I will never understand this need among some users to quickly update to the latest OS version. They feel content to live with bugs in order to use some new features? An OS that's not fully baked in? That's good for them? I don't get it. Not that I'm supposed to get it. Just saying, it seems irrational to me. But that's me.
Something needs to change. Samsung and other parties need to come together and agree to let us unlock and root our phones. If we buy these phones outright, unlocked and outside of carriers, we deserve to do whatever we want with them. And that includes unlocking and rooting. Something needs to give. For a while there, Samsung seemed to be looking at the things people were rooting for and introducing them on their next phones.
But now, it feels like they've moving in the opposite direction. I fear that Samsung will no longer be known as the manufacture that gives its users more features than they need and more options to customize their smartphone experience. It feels as if those days are now over and we will be forced to just accept whatever Samsung gives us out of the box.
Not unlike what iPhone users are forced to do with their smartphone experience.
Long live Oreo! Long live the Note 9!
Why not sell it and get n9600? Snapdragon and rootable.
Best of both worlds.
roaduardo said:
I've given Samsung (and Google) the benefit of the doubt and tried their new phone and new UI software. I returned my S10 and reverted my Note 9 back to Oreo. Now life makes sense again for me. I'm also someone who's guilty of impulse purchases. I'm trying to be better about that. Mobile tech can be addicting.
The new UI on the Note 9 feels like it's been crippled. Like Google, and to a certain extent Samsung, are inching closer and closer to Apple territory. Meaning that they are removing more and more features away and pushing users into tighter boxes. Call recording apps, theming apps, greater control over GPS settings, greater control over camera settings, easier to understand camera settings, and just other faux improvements that leave users feeling like they're using a half-baked OS.
The S10 was fine enough but without the features and apps that I've grown to dearly depend on my Oreo Note 9, I couldn't live with it. It makes me realize that there is no hope that such apps and features will ever make it to the new Note later this fall either.
Not without root. And that means that unless I want to keep this Oreo Note 9 for the rest of its life, any future Note device will have to be Exynos. Which makes me a bit disappointed because the SD chips have been bringing some great features to these phones. But we will never be able to count on reliable unlocking of SD Samsung phones here in North America so from now on it's Exynos for me because I will be relying on root access to get the features that I want but more importantly the features that I NEED.
I'm curious if anyone else feels the same way about this. About Oreo and the direction Samsung and Google are moving from here. I just wish we could stay on Oreo and continue getting security patches and other bug fixes along the way. Without being forced to switch to Pie. I will never understand this need among some users to quickly update to the latest OS version. They feel content to live with bugs in order to use some new features? An OS that's not fully baked in? That's good for them? I don't get it. Not that I'm supposed to get it. Just saying, it seems irrational to me. But that's me.
Something needs to change. Samsung and other parties need to come together and agree to let us unlock and root our phones. If we buy these phones outright, unlocked and outside of carriers, we deserve to do whatever we want with them. And that includes unlocking and rooting. Something needs to give. For a while there, Samsung seemed to be looking at the things people were rooting for and introducing them on their next phones.
But now, it feels like they've moving in the opposite direction. I fear that Samsung will no longer be known as the manufacture that gives its users more features than they need and more options to customize their smartphone experience. It feels as if those days are now over and we will be forced to just accept whatever Samsung gives us out of the box.
Not unlike what iPhone users are forced to do with their smartphone experience.
Long live Oreo! Long live the Note 9!
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so what apps made it so that you had to go back to a device supporting oreo?
bober10113 said:
so what apps made it so that you had to go back to a device supporting oreo?
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Call recording being the biggest one and overall smaller ways in which the OS is laid out. Like with the camera settings and notifications work.
Not with you on this.
I quite like OneUI.
HuStLaZ said:
Not with you on this.
I quite like OneUI.
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That's fair. We're all different.
Bought my Note 9 when One UI was just released. Had a lot of trouble with several key apps (banking, mail, weather and some news apps). Had crashes and graphical glitches almost every day and every week a "fatal" crash were I had to restart my Note with a button combination. I was thinking about returning my device. Kept is and installed the latest Oreo 8.1 version. Almost all software problems are gone. For 3 days not a single crash. Keep my fingers crossed
dont know if you guys side loaded the beta update but on a fresh pie install, not updated, i dont have any of the issues reported.
i have to say my experience is totally different. I think OneUI is fantastic and a major differentiator. i think samsung has taken the OS and built on it. I am a phone junkie and regularly look to buy other devices, but this is the first time im sticking to Samsung not only because of HW but now SW.
I'm a happy camper with One UI. Not gonna lie, I loved how Oreo on note 9 looked. But I'm guilty of upgrading phones twice every year. A fresh look gives me no reason to upgrade to S10 lol. I'll wait till note 10 comes out.
bober10113 said:
dont know if you guys side loaded the beta update but on a fresh pie install, not updated, i dont have any of the issues reported.
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No. My Note upgraded to Pie/One UI immediately after talking it out of the box and setting it up. My user experience with the Note is One Ui only. I've factory reset (deleting data and settings) my Note four times (installed a different set of apps every time) and didn't use a backup (coming from an iPhone) so it was a 100% fresh install. The problems started the same evening, the first crash was within a few hours. With Oreo i'm missing a few features (night mode and lift to wake for example). One Ui is definitely looking more polished.
Friendly reminder, the only constant in the technology world is change. Anyway, Pie takes some getting use to and my biggest complaint is notifications have stopped while my screen is off. I still get calls and texts, but everything else stopped. Android called it Doze and change is inevitable.
https://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby
I like one UI a lot. It's very modern and fluid. I don't have many issues with it. I've disabled updates, though, hoping for root to come soon so I can flash even better customized one UI roms and remove the crap they include permanently instead of just disabling it. That way the phone is lighter and the processor wouldn't have to work as hard.
I get your points, though.
I think I'll go back to Oreo also can't stand not to have my notifications play through the phone when connected to Bluetooth miss way to many notifications. I have to turn off media playback on bluetooth to have notifications play on the phone, and when playing Spotify the notifications interrupt the music hate that.
bligui said:
I think I'll go back to Oreo also can't stand not to have my notifications play through the phone when connected to Bluetooth miss way to many notifications. I have to turn off media playback on bluetooth to have notifications play on the phone, and when playing Spotify the notifications interrupt the music hate that.
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Finally someone else that has this issue. I thought I was only one..lol
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butchieboy said:
Finally someone else that has this issue. I thought I was only one..lol
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I did, too, but never paid attention to it and I like it actually. I think it was done purposely so people don't text or check their social media and drive. Phone calls come through no problem.
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butchieboy said:
Finally someone else that has this issue. I thought I was only one..lol
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And you of all people shouldn't be texting while driving, and you know why. [emoji23]
K-alz said:
I did, too, but never paid attention to it and I like it actually. I think it was done purposely so people don't text or check their social media and drive. Phone calls come through no problem.
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And you of all people shouldn't be texting while driving, and you know why. [emoji23]
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Lol...I dont kind sir.
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butchieboy said:
Lol...I dont kind sir.
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Mhm. I "believe" you. Then why were you concerned about the notifications going through your BT in the car? Haha
To each their own. I'm too old and way too busy now to deal with rooting, customizing, etc. Used to spend hours on it when I was in my 20s, the results were always disappointing. I have only a few requirents. The phone has to be secure (my corporate access apps and email account will not work on a rooted phone), reliable, and I have to have a way to set default apps. Camera has to be good but I don't care much for too many camera features or pro mode. I have a full frame dslr for when I want to take real pictures. And I really don't give a crap about filters. Never used them and never will.
So, apple is out of the question mainly because I can't set default apps (open Google maps instead of Apple maps for example), but I honestly think they are overpriced for substandard tech. And I can't think of any iPhone that comes close to the battery life of the note 9.
In summary, looking back, I don't miss having an unlocked bootloader phone. In fact, I can't think of a single good reason to root anymore. None of the custom roms or kernels are actually an improvement, and in my experience, they never have been. I actually like the new android.
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To each their own. I'm too old and way too busy now to deal with rooting, customizing, etc. Used to spend hours on it when I was in my 20s, the results were always disappointing. I have only a few requirents. The phone has to be secure (my corporate access apps and email account will not work on a rooted phone), reliable, and I have to have a way to set default apps. Camera has to be good but I don't care much for too many camera features or pro mode. I have a full frame dslr for when I want to take real pictures. And I really don't give a crap about filters. Never used them and never will.
So, apple is out of the question mainly because I can't set default apps (open Google maps instead of Apple maps for example), but I honestly think they are overpriced for substandard tech. And I can't think of any iPhone that comes close to the battery life of the note 9.
In summary, looking back, I don't miss having an unlocked bootloader phone. In fact, I can't think of a single good reason to root anymore. None of the custom roms or kernels are actually an improvement, and in my experience, they never have been. I actually like the new android.
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Not disagreeing with you but there certainly are still some good reasons (in my opinion) for rooting.
Disabled high volume warrning with headphones (I personally found this very annoying)
System wide ad blocking
More efficient kernels
Use of Samsung's built-in call recorder
Battery charge limiting
The option to install AOSP based ROMs (Although the lack of HWC means battery life is poor)
Biometric unlock after reboot
More theming options
Use any app with the dual app tool