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rm htc messanger, what effect does it have?

Hi
I have never used the default HTC messenger program for sending and receiving txt messages. Now that I have root I was thinking about removing it; if I remove it will that cause any problems in my ability to send and receive txt messages?
Was also thinking about removing:
Amazon MP3 Store (or what ever it is called in 2.1)
Stock
Peep
youtube

Hi
I have never used the default HTC messenger program for sending and receiving txt messages. Now that I have root I was thinking about removing it; if I remove it will that cause any problems in my ability to send and receive txt messages?
Was also thinking about removing:
Amazon MP3 Store (or what ever it is called in 2.1)
Stock
Peep
youtube
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Other apps piggy back off stock message app.
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Kcarpenter said:
Other apps piggy back off stock message app.
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So removing the stock message app is prob not a good idea then?

Yeah, don't remove it unless you don't want any texts! All the market apps piggyback the htc app's connection / protocol and just disable the notifications for the original app.
You can remove the others you listed with no problems though

I just want to make sure, if I remove peep, I can still receive twitter updates if I download a third party client from the marketplace?

dsMA said:
I just want to make sure, if I remove peep, I can still receive twitter updates if I download a third party client from the marketplace?
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Yes, you can.

I was curious of the same question as you. It sucks for me though because I use Handcent for my sms/mms needs but even with the notifications disabled in the stock messaging app it still pops up in both

I had handcent, default messages, and google voice on my phone back when I was running stock 1.5 and I only recieved notifications from handcent. I am not sure which rom you are running or which settings in messages you have checked or unchecked. Let me know.

ClockworkMod DesktopSMS: Sending and receiving texts from your XOOM (and desktop)

DesktopSMS forwards all your incoming SMS on your *Android Phone* to your Gmail to GTalk.
You can then reply to the chat request or email, and the response will be sent back from your phone as a text message. This is very similar to Google Voice, except you won't need a new number or anything annoying like that!
http://app.net/desktopsms
Installation:
1) Install DesktopSMS on your ANDROID PHONE. (Not onto your XOOM)
2) Login to Desktop SMS on your ANDROID ****PHONE****.
3) Install a Chat client like Google Talk (which may already be on your XOOM) onto your XOOM or desktop PC.
4) Receive a text. Watch as your text gets converted to an email and google chat message
5) Respond!
So, once again, this app is only installed on your phone. Then just install your favorite IM client on your desktop and tablet, and the rest will work magically!
You do not need to install this on both your phone and tablet like other apps. You do not need to be on the same network like other apps. This all works by magic (my servers).
Let me know what you think. This is in a free beta right now, so be prepared for some bugs! I'd love to hear your feedback.

Wrote you a PM

well, I don't have a smart phone so thats a problem.
I, like many others, have ditched their smartphomes and activated their xooms. I now only have a dummy phone. I didn't see a need in paying for two data plans because I ws rarey using my phone. Now I use it to talk and text.... even though I wish it was only to talk.
I am waiting for the day that I can SMS on my Xoom using my current phone number. Guess I'll jabe to keep waiting. lol

Works awesome...just had a conversation with myself, through gtalk. Hahaha havnt tried it with my xoom yet. But im pretty sure it will work just fine. Very good job

It looks great but I cannot seem to get it to work yet, Mr. Koush. I have it signed it with push notifications successfully on my gmail account on my OG Droid. I can do the test message from within the app and it pops up on my phone like always, but other than that it does nothing on my Xoom, or on anything else for that matter. It seems almost like the push notifications are not even being sent out.
EDIT: I found out what the problem was. I had the default messaging app totally disabled, as I am using Handcent SMS as a complete replacement to the default one. I would like to use Handcent SMS instead of the default one. I know its beta and I cannot wait for updates!

diablo2224 said:
I found out what the problem was. I had the default messaging app totally disabled, as I am using Handcent SMS as a complete replacement to the default one.
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I had that same "issue" so thanks for posting the solution. User error as usual
Is there a way to make the contact name show up or will we need to add these email addresses to our contacts? Thanks and awesome job!

CT453213 said:
I had that same "issue" so thanks for posting the solution. User error as usual
Is there a way to make the contact name show up or will we need to add these email addresses to our contacts? Thanks and awesome job!
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It looks like after you receive your first text from that person after you accepted the "chat invite" on your Gtalk account it syncs up with your current contact list automatically. It shows the phone number on the left side of the screen under your gmail account, but in the chat window it shows that contacts name in parenthesis.
This ofcourse is for if you are using the Xoom with Gtalk, such as myself. I haven't tried anything else yet.

Could it be that the contacts NAME will be in the gtalk LIST instead of phonenumber ?

OK, being a bit thick here.
I'm using GoSMS Pro, but as far as I know, the default messaging app is still active, just without any notifications... does this make a difference?
Not currently receiving any notifications in email or g-talk... :/

Mr.Clark said:
OK, being a bit thick here.
I'm using GoSMS Pro, but as far as I know, the default messaging app is still active, just without any notifications... does this make a difference?
Not currently receiving any notifications in email or g-talk... :/
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Are u signed in in the app? The first time the app froze, i had to go back into it and sign in.
Just tested it with my xoom and it works great.

Looking for a little help, I have the app installed on my HTC desire HD, and it will forward the text to my gmail and talk, but when I reply nothing happens. Am i missing something, I've triedreplying through talk and gmail, and nothing from both.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Peace
Dan

ghoticov said:
I am waiting for the day that I can SMS on my Xoom using my current phone number. Guess I'll jabe to keep waiting. lol
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You can do this already if you have sprint

dowenprs said:
Looking for a little help, I have the app installed on my HTC desire HD, and it will forward the text to my gmail and talk, but when I reply nothing happens. Am i missing something, I've triedreplying through talk and gmail, and nothing from both.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Peace
Dan
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*edit* update took care of it, never mind.

@Koush
I am having an issue getting the app to try it out. When I tell the system to send me a link, it does, but it sends me a link for the link request page again. It does not send me a link to the actual app.
EDIT: Nevermind. I figured it out. Shouldn't browse until I had my coffee.

Is GTalk the only SMS application that will work on the tablet if the tablet is WiFi only?

dalepl said:
Is GTalk the only SMS application that will work on the tablet if the tablet is WiFi only?
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Havnt tried google voice...but its wifi only...gtalk is probably the only one

mulletcutter said:
Are u signed in in the app? The first time the app froze, i had to go back into it and sign in.
Just tested it with my xoom and it works great.
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Definitely signed in...

Koush:
Is it possible that your push servers are blocked in China?
I can correctly Login with Google Account, but get an error on 'registering with push server....' (takes long and eventually times out)
Error message: "Login failed. Please check your password. If the error persists, please send a log to the developer"
here is a log... maybe it helps analyze why i can't connect with the push servers...

Ok, it's just updated, and when I go to send a test SMS, it brings up
The application GoSMS was found installed. If you do not recieve a text message, please verify that it has not disabled SMS notifications in the application's settings.
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So that's cool, then I send the test. GoSMS then pops up the text, as it always does.
However, it still doesn't appear to be sending me an email.
When it says "please verify that it has not disabled SMS notifications in the application's settings", does it mean the default Messaging app?
I've tested by disabling the taskbar notification for GoSMS and re-enabling it for the default Messaging app, but even then, there is no sound nor visual cue that an SMS has arrived... is this why it's not working? Has GoSMS broken my default messaging app?

bwcorvus said:
You can do this already if you have sprint
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Of course, I have BIG RED. :/

Text Messaging?

Has there been any way of sending and receiving texts with the TouchPad through bluetooth? I know webOS can do it with the Pre 3 and the Veer but not with any other phone. How about Android? Any apps or anything?

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Has there been any way of sending and receiving texts with the TouchPad through bluetooth? I know webOS can do it with the Pre 3 and the Veer but not with any other phone. How about Android? Any apps or anything?
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I don't know about Bluetooth, but you can send and receive text msgs using google voice.

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I don't know about Bluetooth, but you can send and receive text msgs using google voice.
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Yeah, I'm gonna try that method and see how it works
Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk

There is also TextPlus. Basically this app uses a fake phone number out in the world. People can text to that number and you will get it in your TP. You can also send texts out using it and take care of attachments.

There are lots of apps that imitate it, but nothing (other than GVoice that I've seen) that can allow you to use your own phone number to do it. Unless your carrier allows a web-access type thing, like Rogers did with their OneNumber that they just started. But again, that's web, not an actual app.
I reco GV, but then again, I'm Canadian, and I like being able to text anywhere from it.

I went ahead and downloaded the app DeskSMS on my phone. I linked it to my google account and text messages are forwarded to google talk on CM9 and the default Messaging app in webOS. I can reply straight from my tablet. On top of that, google chrome has an extension on the desktop version that allows you to do the same thing and send/receive texts from the browser. Its pretty cool. The best part is is that it acts like a normal text message so it doesnt show the people I'm texting a different number or require them to be logged into google talk or anything.

Textra not working sending Live Messages

I would love to keep using Textra as my default message app, but it cannot send Live Messages on my Note 8 (AT&T). It errors out all the time. So I tried to change the MMS setting from "system" to "legacy" as some people have suggested. It also errors out while sending Live Messages.
So I switched back to the default message app, and it worked really quickly.
Does anyone have this issue with Textra sending Live Messages? Any more suggestions?
Thanks.

Gifs, live messages work just fine on T-Mobile. Its a carrier issue.
Reach out to your carrier and express your concerns.
Google messenger can receive gifs just fine, but may not work to send them.

de2000 said:
I would love to keep using Textra as my default message app, but it cannot send Live Messages on my Note 8 (AT&T). It errors out all the time. So I tried to change the MMS setting from "system" to "legacy" as some people have suggested. It also errors out while sending Live Messages.
So I switched back to the default message app, and it worked really quickly.
Does anyone have this issue with Textra sending Live Messages? Any more suggestions?
Thanks.
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I have had the same problem with Textra. It is a file size issue that I havent been able to figure out. It will send a regular live message (smaller) but wont send one with the popping, glowing words as they are bigger in size. I have tried switching the carrier limit, but that didnt work. As with you when I switch to the Samsung messaging app it sends fine.

Thanks for the replies.
Can't reach out to the carrier since the default app works fine.
But, as you all know that Textra is way better than the default app in every other way. So, it would be nice to have it working. I've submitted a help request to Textra, but I thought that I'd get help here faster, if there is one...

The carrier is the reason these MMS type messages work or not. They have to have the infrastructure in place to allow MMS (aka live messages AKA gifs AKA video messages )
T-Mobile have the backend to send and receive these types of messages. Other carriers dont yet have this functionality (or its not yet "turned on") which is why some people can send receive these and others can't.

I've had the problem with my unlocked Note 8 on Verizon. I can only get GIFs to work receiving (sending was always fine) by loading either Verizon's terrible Messages+ app, or using Textra and setting the MSS > MSS Behavior to Legacy, then rebooting. Called Samsung, they said it's a Verizon issue; called Verizon, they said they don't have any information on the Note 8's messaging to help with a fix. I call shenanigans, since Verizon needs to test a device before they allow it out into the wild on their network, but maybe that's just me being crazy.

So I observed something today on this issue. When I used the default app to send a live message, it compresses the crap out of it, and also reduced the background pixel dimension (original is 600X600, the sent version was 300X300). I also found that AT&T allows up to 1MB of MMS per send. So I checked the original file, and the size is about 5.7MB. I checked the one that was sent out by the default app, and it is at 326KB. That is a damn big difference!
From this, I am thinking that Textra's compression capability might not be as fast or good as the default app for this to work.

As a loyal Textra enthusiast, I would love answers too. Maybe Textra needs work on their end? Let's contact the developer.

Textra does not compress the live message like it can with other MMS pics. The standard app as stated above does compress heavily.
EE in the UK has a limit of either 100kb or 300kb (my MMS messages only send to 100kb!) therefore textra must do some compression but clearly it can't to the live messages.
So my take on this is Textra won't currently work unless they put in a fix to allow Live messages.
I've now switched to the samsung messaging app for the time being.
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PsiPhiDan said:
As a loyal Textra enthusiast, I would love answers too. Maybe Textra needs work on their end? Let's contact the developer.
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yup thats my take on the issue - its a textra problem

Hi Guys, I filed an issue with Textra. A member of their team contacted me and said that they will look into this next week.

I went into settings, MMS, and changed the file to carrier has no limit. Live messages send fine. On TMO.

Oyeve said:
I went into settings, MMS, and changed the file to carrier has no limit. Live messages send fine. On TMO.
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When you say that you changed the file to Carrier, what setting are you talking about? I dont have a setting in MMS called file.

Beianrui said:
When you say that you changed the file to Carrier, what setting are you talking about? I dont have a setting in MMS called file.
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I meant "file size".

Oyeve said:
I meant "file size".
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Gotcha!
I have tried playing with the file size on mine and even tried playing with the System and Legacy options along with the APN settings and it will just not send. Works just fine with the default messaging application but not with Textra.
I hate it too, I would so much rather use Textra.
Just wondering what phone company is everyone using that is having issues? Mine is AT&T

Mine is AT&T.
Their help website says that the MMS limit is 1MB, so that is where I have set mine.
I have managed to send one live message through Textra, but it was a super simple thing. Size must have been really small. Anyway, the app team will look at this next week.

Google's Messages app won't send Live Messages either. Am on T-Mobile.

Any updates from the devs?

Oyeve said:
I went into settings, MMS, and changed the file to carrier has no limit. Live messages send fine. On TMO.
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This worked perfectly for me, problem solved. Thanks man.

For those on TMO and using Textra, I've changed my MMS setting to no limit as well as to Legacy but Live Messages still not working. If I send Live Messages through Textra it appears to send but recipients still aren't receiving. I've tested with a few co-workers. So those of you on TMO that says it's working have you confirmed that they are actually being "received"?
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For those on TMO and using Textra, I've changed my MMS setting to no limit as well as to Legacy but Live Messages still not working. If I send Live Messages through Textra it appears to send but recipients still aren't receiving. I've tested with a few co-workers. So those of you on TMO that says it's working have you confirmed that they are actually being "received"?
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I also forgot to mentioned that I've changed the Live Message to "standard" as well

I can send MMS messages on AT&T. Is there any fix?

Text message pop up

Can anyone tell me where this pop up is coming from? It pops up when new text messages arrive and also an event from facebook arrives. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1aedJudl0n9cR8oxyCrSiaeI1sEZsZX_7

I've never seen that, that doesn't look like anything on stock Samsung.

shouren04 said:
I've never seen that, that doesn't look like anything on stock Samsung.
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Same here, I have pop up notifications on, but they show the message content at the top of the screen

I've tried to figure out where it is coming from, but have no idea. It has only appeared for text messages and facebook alerts. I've checked setting for both apps and can't find the culprit. If someone can figure it out, it would be much appreciated.

So you must not be using the stock Samsung messages app cause stock doesn't support facebook integration. Looks like you are using Go SMS?

shouren04 said:
So you must not be using the stock Samsung messages app cause stock doesn't support facebook integration. Looks like you are using Go SMS?
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Yes I use GO SMS, I checked the notification settings there as well, even disabled all notifications on GO SMS, and changed the default app to messages and I still get the popup. Hmmmm.....