Root and stay stock or ROM? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am new to the N6 world and I am not happy with the battery performance getting around 3.5 SOT and max of 12 hrs of overall battery usage. I am so tempted to root, CM12.1 and Franco kernel. But I am hearing bad battery results with CM12.1. I know everyone has different way of usage but if you can share your experience it will be great. I have three pus email accounts one is exchange, twitter, instagram, Google+ (manual sync), screen brightness is 10%, no adaptive brightness, no ambent display, no location, i use Google now, rarely play games, dropbox, Google drive, one drive, turned off all Google sync except for contacts, calendar... etc.
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You can squeeze another hour of SOT with a custom ROM and kernel. I usually get 4 to 4.5. Everyone's phone is unique but benzo kernel gives me very good battery life regardless of the ROM it is used with. It is based off hells core kernel which many people agree is among the best.

biglilsteve said:
You can squeeze another hour of SOT with a custom ROM and kernel. I usually get 4 to 4.5. Everyone's phone is unique but benzo kernel gives me very good battery life regardless of the ROM it is used with. It is based off hells core kernel which many people agree is among the best.
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Thank you can you share the xda link to that kernel?
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nabobcoffee said:
Thank you can you share the xda link to that kernel?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/kernel-benzocore-kernel-t3139822
Good luck!

A custom ROM with settings with by Kernel Adiutor (or Synapse,...) *may* help. There are so many factors, including use (which you've touched on), areas of travel/use (and therefore reception), baseband version,...
Regardless, your willingness and patience to experiment with different kernels (recommend hellscore/benzoCore or blu_spark as starting points) and ROMs are very helpful!

Has anyone tried CM12.1 it seems like a very clean interface?
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nabobcoffee said:
I am new to the N6 world and I am not happy with the battery performance getting around 3.5 SOT and max of 12 hrs of overall battery usage. I am so tempted to root, CM12.1 and Franco kernel. But I am hearing bad battery results with CM12.1. I know everyone has different way of usage but if you can share your experience it will be great. I have three pus email accounts one is exchange, twitter, instagram, Google+ (manual sync), screen brightness is 10%, no adaptive brightness, no ambent display, no location, i use Google now, rarely play games, dropbox, Google drive, one drive, turned off all Google sync except for contacts, calendar... etc.
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Try the M3 stock. I don't think you'll be disappointed. The battery is what it is, you can get some improvements however I think most of them exist in how the device deep sleeps. JDX 3.01 (rom) is in the thread. Good luck.
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All custom kernels.can be tweaked for battery life. The choice.of kernel is pretty much irrelevant, unless you can't be bothered to learn the tweaks
Also, ROMs.have very little influence on battery life unless it's bloated and poorly coded. Although in.not saying CM is either of those things, typically cm ROMs have been poorer on battery life than their aosp cousins.

nabobcoffee said:
. . . I am not happy with the battery performance. . .
I know everyone has different way of usage but if you can share your experience it will be great.
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My N6 - stock 5.1.1 - Franco Kernel.
For battery life I am using apps with a black background when possible.
No G-mail but K-9 Mail.
No wallpaper 'No wallpaper app'.
WiFi interval changed to 200 with build.prop editor.
Flashed Black Google Now launcher
(Needs Google.app updates uninstalled).
Disabled not used g-apps.
Disabled not used services.

Actually today I am bit surprised of how well the battery behaved. I got 4 hrs SOT, 3 hrs of talk time, listing to music.
Here is what I did and I believe that pumped up my battery performance.
1. Switched network to 3G.
2. No WiFi.
3. Wiped cache from boot recovery.
I will keep an eye on it but if that's the case then I will just stay stock until M is out.
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nabobcoffee said:
Actually today I am bit surprised of how well the battery behaved. I got 4 hrs SOT, 3 hrs of talk time, listing to music.
Here is what I did and I believe that pumped up my battery performance.
1. Switched network to 3G.
2. No WiFi.
3. Wiped cache from boot recovery.
I will keep an eye on it but if that's the case then I will just stay stock until M is out.
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You are welcome
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I am on Android M p3 and things are looking very promising specially in the performance and battery life department.
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nabobcoffee said:
. . . believe that pumped up my battery performance.
1. Switched network to 3G.
2. No WiFi.
3. Wiped cache from boot recovery.
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Yes agree, I noticed that too (switching to 2G).
Probably the 4G network is to weak for indoor use, and maybe bad signal causes more battery.
Hope you don' t mind that I add another point.
4. Restrict app background data of all apps. (Settings - Data usage - < per app setting > )

I just flashed Android M P3 and it looks promising regarding battery life and I am like the added features. Highly recommend to check it out.
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nabobcoffee said:
I just flashed Android M P3 and it looks promising . . .
Highly recommend to check it out.
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Unfortunately my navigation app Sygic won't start in M P3. Needed to go back to 5.1.1

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Nexus 7 battery life

Hi I have recently purchased a 32gb nexus 7 and I have been having some issues with the battery since the 4.2.1 update, before this update I would get around a day on the battery no problem now I can't seem to get more than 16 hours at the most. My usage includes facebook at night for roughly 2 hours, moderate gaming during the day, and some web browsing in my spare time. All this was never a problem on 4.1 but in 4.2, the battery just seems redundant. I would like to hear your thoughts on your battery life on your nexus 7's thank you.
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How much gaming is moderate?
I noticed my governor was on interactive tonight, which was maxing the CPU even just by touching the screen, I thought my battery life seemed quite good though.
Anyway, I changed my governor to ondemand, and noticed that simply touching the screen only moves the CPU freq to 3-500mhz.. Which is fine for browsing etc... I have also played games, and I haven't noticed any lags... yet... But if there is a really hungry game that I do start to notice a lag in, I'll just put it back to interactive for that game, and meantime I should have better battery life.
Like I said, I only just changed this, so I'm yet to see how much better my battery does, but just from looking at CPU freqs I'd say there's gotta be a decent difference.
There's an idea for an app for some dev... Per app governer setting...
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I always had excellent battery life, no matter which android version.....
Do you use Google Currents? If not, stop the service and disable it completely.
Furthermore, please post a screenshot of your battery usage.
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dalanik said:
I always had excellent battery life, no matter which android version.....
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That's pretty damn impressive. How much screen on time is that?
On my second charge I got ~2.5d with about 4-5 hours of screen on (stock). More than satisfactory!
jasopan said:
That's pretty damn impressive. How much screen on time is that?
On my second charge I got ~2.5d with about 4-5 hours of screen on (stock). More than satisfactory!
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Looks like 0 screen on to me, device is sitting idle. Mine would last weeks from what I've seen in standby, but yeah, I use my Nexus 7...
knuckles1978 said:
How much gaming is moderate?
I noticed my governor was on interactive tonight, which was maxing the CPU even just by touching the screen, I thought my battery life seemed quite good though.
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Default governor is intended to max the CPU when you touch the screen, in fact it's an advertised feature for the Nexus 7. There could perhaps be a step up to a higher CPU then higher yet if needed, but the problem with that is you get jumpiness if you switch CPU speeds around when things are going on, like launcher swipes, games, etc.
Per-app governor is already easily done today in Tasker.
Aw man
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Do you use Google Currents? If not, stop the service and disable it completely.
Furthermore, please post a screenshot of your battery usage.
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Hell naw, just set it to only sink on charge
That means I update my articles in the morning and evening only, and whenever else I plug it in.
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Per-app governor is already easily done today in Tasker.
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Thanks for that, I'll check it out. There is no performance loss when web browsing or similar tasks with the on demand, so I'll just use interactive for intensive games, and extend my battery a bit in that case.
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No I do not use Google currents at all, I can't understand how people get so much battery from it whereas I get hardly anything
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khaytsus said:
Looks like 0 screen on to me, device is sitting idle. Mine would last weeks from what I've seen in standby, but yeah, I use my Nexus 7...
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I was like 2 hours usage total. I used it only to check my mail and write some replies, check news and such...
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Well, I'm now a happy guy.
Downloaded tasker. I now have my pad set on ondemand for browsing and light duties only with a 1ghz cap which I cannot tell any difference from stock clock,, and then when I launch any intensive games I have tasker automatically overclocking to 1.5Ghz, changing governor to interactive and closing some stuff letting my pad concentrate on the job in hand without me having to do a single thing. Then when I exit my game, tasker automatically clocks back down again and puts the governor back to ondemand.
I also have it automatically only use Sync if the battery is above 40%. I'm liking tasker, and these are only very simple uses for it, some of the example ones are really cool. @khaytsus Thanks again for telling me about it, wouldn't have known otherwise. Now I want to get more into it and seeing what it can really do using the variables etc, and the appmaker.
Another thing about battery. I got my n7 as a US import to the UK, and just noticed today that the charger they supplied me was 700mA instead of 2A,, so I went and bought a UK to US adaptor so I could use the ASUS OEM one, and its charging loads faster, should be nearly 3 times and so far it does seem it. If I was playing a game while charging, say Vice City, before I was able to actually make my N7 lose charge. Not now. So anyone with the slow charge problem please just double check your charger, just in case,, there's probably someone else out there like me that just didn't bother looking and is using a 700mA one.
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Timed from 0% with the 2A charger. 2 hours from empty tank. That's more like it
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Wow! That was fast! Mine is 3 hours on the stock 4.2 rom and kernel..
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This is my battery life running latest CM 10.1 nightly and latest Franco kernel.
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Nice. I'm assuming there wasn't much gaming in your 8hrs of screen time. Still great battery life though. As long as I can do anything I like in the space of a day and be sure that I'm not going to run out then I'm happy.
I am still thinking of investing in one of those 10 or 12,000mAh battery packs though, just for times where I have to leave the house and haven't had the time to give it a full charge.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/EasyAcc-12000mAh-Portable-External-Battery/dp/B008YRG5JQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAVPower®-D...Smartphones/dp/B00974FC2G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_5
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I do not do a lot of gaming. Mostly browsing the web and reading forums. I am very satisfied with life like that for my uses.
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Stock 4.2.1, m-kernel' cpu1.3; gpu526; LP666. 6 hours of screen on time minimum. Just daily use, with light gaming ( safari ski, etc).
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ajrich80 said:
I do not do a lot of gaming. Mostly browsing the web and reading forums. I am very satisfied with life like that for my uses.
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what's your Franco kernel setup?
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My n7 with franco kernel r38 I get around 10-11 hours screen on time if I can keep off gta3

[Q] Verizon Nexus 6 battery issues

I've had the Verizon version of the Nexus 6 for a week now. The battery life so far has been horrible. I have a friend who has a Sprint version and he doesn't seem to have the same issues that I have. He hasn't turned any features off (vibration, location, or lowered brightness) and he gets decent battery life. I have turned off location, haptic feedback, ambiant display, brightness to 10% and I can barely get 3 hours screen time. I read other posts about battery life from other users and some say they have no problem. 4 hours screen time is usual for them without turning off anything. Are they just trolling? Does anyone have any suggestions? Please help!
dxbrow2 said:
I've had the Verizon version of the Nexus 6 for a week now. The battery life so far has been horrible. I have a friend who has a Sprint version and he doesn't seem to have the same issues that I have. He hasn't turned any features off (vibration, location, or lowered brightness) and he gets decent battery life. I have turned off location, haptic feedback, ambiant display, brightness to 10% and I can barely get 3 hours screen time. I read other posts about battery life from other users and some say they have no problem. 4 hours screen time is usual for them without turning off anything. Are they just trolling? Does anyone have any suggestions? Please help!
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i see between 5.5-6.5 hours sot. battery life has everything to do with how you personally setup your device, what apps you personally choose to install and use, and very much about the phone/data signal quality.also, brightness plays a huge factor. i keep my brightness very low, around 10%. if i raise it to 35%-40%, ill get 1 hour less sot.
Wow..5 hour OST. I'm jealous. I don't know what else to change on my.phone to improve it. I already have brightness down to 10%. Plus a lot of other bells and whistles turned off. Maybe the Verizon version is over clocked or something?
No the Verizon version is exactly the same as everybody else's. there is absolutely nothing different other than that tramp stamp on the back
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dxbrow2 said:
Wow..5 hour OST. I'm jealous. I don't know what else to change on my.phone to improve it. I already have brightness down to 10%. Plus a lot of other bells and whistles turned off. Maybe the Verizon version is over clocked or something?
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do you play lots of games? i dont. but games will kill your battery quickly, especially if its a gpu intensive game. could also be the quality of your signal. bad quality signal, your battery will always be bad.
Verizon Cloud White 64 GB here. Running completely stock with brightness always at 10% except for a few minutes when I'm outside. I have data and GPS and Wifi and Bluetooth always off when not in use. I mainly use the phone to text and check emails and it only lasts me one full day. Most of the time I have 1.5 hours of screen time. I'll come home with like 25% and only 1.5 or 2 hours SOT. No crazy apps in the background draining battery either, I've checked with BetterBatteryStats and Gsam. I tried flashing lean kernel and underclocked very slightly and the battery life is about the same as on stock kernel. It's really weird because I had a 32GB Blue and easily got 3 hours of SOT and this white one hasn't had as good battery life.
dxbrow2 said:
I've had the Verizon version of the Nexus 6 for a week now. The battery life so far has been horrible. I have a friend who has a Sprint version and he doesn't seem to have the same issues that I have. He hasn't turned any features off (vibration, location, or lowered brightness) and he gets decent battery life. I have turned off location, haptic feedback, ambiant display, brightness to 10% and I can barely get 3 hours screen time. I read other posts about battery life from other users and some say they have no problem. 4 hours screen time is usual for them without turning off anything. Are they just trolling? Does anyone have any suggestions? Please help!
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For me stock I get about 3.5 SOT, running Chroma with exactly the same setup I get 5.5 hours SOT. I would suggest trying chroma out. Only thing missing right now on Chroma is verizon visual voicemail.
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I'm on vzw. I started this morning at 80% battery. 3.5 hours sot with 30% battery left. I'm using chroma and its amazing with the elementalx kernel. But you really can't compare battery between different users. Everyone uses their phone differently so its tough to accurately measure.
Konfuzion said:
For me stock I get about 3.5 SOT, running Chroma with exactly the same setup I get 5.5 hours SOT. I would suggest trying chroma out. Only thing missing right now on Chroma is verizon visual voicemail.
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I'm thinking about Chroma for all the battery life I have heard. Do you experience any lag or bugs at all? I haven't had good luck with ROMs on other phones before. Also, am I required to wipe the phone before flashing each new build? Or is it just recommended?
chris23445 said:
I'm thinking about Chroma for all the battery life I have heard. Do you experience any lag or bugs at all? I haven't had good luck with ROMs on other phones before. Also, am I required to wipe the phone before flashing each new build? Or is it just recommended?
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going from stock to aosp rom, youll have to wipe the very first flash. then when the rom updates, you dont have to wipe anymore. youll have to wipe that first time because aosp wont boot over stock.
chris23445 said:
I'm thinking about Chroma for all the battery life I have heard. Do you experience any lag or bugs at all? I haven't had good luck with ROMs on other phones before. Also, am I required to wipe the phone before flashing each new build? Or is it just recommended?
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Chroma is way faster than stock, so no there isn't any lag. The wiping question has already been answered. As for bugs there are a few minor ones but nothing that breaks using it as a daily driver. The only issue I already mentioned for Verizon users no visual voicemail.
I should mention, just do a backup of stock in twrp flash Chroma and if you don't like it you can always revert back with your backup in a few minutes.
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battery life

After the recent April security update, my battery life is terrible on my nexus 6. Anybody else experiencing issues? Any suggestions?
battery life is all about how you set up your phone, how you use your phone, which apps you choose to install, and very much your phone/data quality. everything else is very minor to battery life.
that said, I have the exact same battery life on 6.0.1, latest security update, that I had on 6.0 and before, no change. I get about 5-6.5 hours sot daily.
[email protected] said:
After the recent April security update, my battery life is terrible on my nexus 6. Anybody else experiencing issues? Any suggestions?
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I use franco kernel #41 and I get constantly get 7hours
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chitown835 said:
I use franco kernel #41 and I get constantly get 7hours
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Thanks. Might give that a try again. Ran Franco for a while before.
[email protected] said:
Thanks. Might give that a try again. Ran Franco for a while before.
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Well I mean it all depends on your choice you don't have to necessarily pick franco
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Apps can make a HUGE difference too and are easily overlooked.
For example, I was having huge Bluetooth battery drain. I thought it was the April update or the particular ROM I'm using. All Better Battery Stats said was Bluetooth_timer was keeping the device awake but didn't say why.
After some diagnosing, I figured out a newly installed app (FiveStars rewards app) was the culprit. Seemed almost unbelievable because i didn't even know it had a Bluetooth feature. Removed that app and now battery life is back on par.
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MrBrady said:
Apps can make a HUGE difference too and are easily overlooked.
For example, I was having huge Bluetooth battery drain. I thought it was the April update or the particular ROM I'm using. All Better Battery Stats said was Bluetooth_timer was keeping the device awake but didn't say why.
After some diagnosing, I figured out a newly installed app (FiveStars rewards app) was the culprit. Seemed almost unbelievable because i didn't even know it had a Bluetooth feature. Removed that app and now battery life is back on par.
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Will have to install better battery stats and see what it says. Most recently installed apps xda labs, haystack TV, Watch tnt, and NBA.
[email protected] said:
After the recent April security update, my battery life is terrible on my nexus 6.
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Here No differences after april update. lite rom (of Danvdh debloated stock rom).
Battery life: layers / apps with dark background; blacked out G-apps of TBO; Bluetooth off;
No your right battery has been horrific, had to go back to stock, thought was ROM/App related..
But went stock 4 times this month doing factory resets and still this thing doesnt ever sleep and just drains and drains like a leech with absolutely no apps installed just line, I also never backup anything or use Tibu.. But maybe a permission being blocked is causing the drain? Should reset permissions
Anyway I just ordered a 6p wahaha

Anyone use nitrogen and pure nexus and has a preference?

I do so much work on my phone so need one that is smooth and quick with great battery. I have Pure Nexus now and it's fine but sometimes it seems to lag. Maybe they all do when jumping through lots of apps. Maybe I need to reboot daily to keep it smooth.
jeffrimerman said:
I do so much work on my phone so need one that is smooth and quick with great battery. I have Pure Nexus now and it's fine but sometimes it seems to lag. Maybe they all do when jumping through lots of apps. Maybe I need to reboot daily to keep it smooth.
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I don't think it should lag but you may give custom kernels a try.Lag sometimes happen due to throttling after heat.Custom kernel manage these issues at ease.
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Mr.Ak said:
I don't think it should lag but you may give custom kernels a try.Lag sometimes happen due to throttling after heat.Custom kernel manage these issues at ease.
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OK thank you. I have 3.10.40-PureKernel-Shamu-2.04 so it's a custom kernel meant to work fine with PureNexus I think. I'm sure it's just because I'm using nav, and other high usage apps.
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OK thank you. I have 3.10.40-PureKernel-Shamu-2.04 so it's a custom kernel meant to work fine with PureNexus I think. I'm sure it's just because I'm using nav, and other high usage apps.
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IMO android uses a very smart way of managing stuff when multi-tasting to reduce lag.So it is still highly doubtable.
Why don't you try some other kernels and overclock possibly?
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IMO android uses a very smart way of managing stuff when multi-tasting to reduce lag.So it is still highly doubtable.
Why don't you try some other kernels and overclock possibly?
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Right now the phone doesn't last till much past 6p so I don't want to clock even more in case it uses more battery. It used to last longer so maybe when updating to 7.1.1 with the newer Pure Nexus that took some more. Or maybe it's just a 2014 phone with high mileage =). I used to go to sleep and overnight it hardly used energy now I notice when it's just idle it can use 20% overnight, maybe more. It could be an app I downloaded is running.
I use Nitrogen and no custom kernel and get above 6 hours screen time, very good ROM!
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I use Nitrogen and no custom kernel and get above 6 hours screen time, very good ROM!
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Awesome thank you for that. I'll probably give it a try. I think it was in the top 5 custom roms on an article I read.
i finally switched to 7 on pure nexus...it's great...smooth...fast...had it running almost 300 hours without a reboot and it was still going strong...i haven't tried nitrogen...so can't say...but am happy with pn...i came from chroma rom...
Roms, Kernel, and Age are all irrelevant!
A phone will last as long as the battery allows, and that's based on your usage of the phone. Period!
You use a lot of apps, it's going to die quicker.
You stream a lot of music/YouTube, it's going to die quicker.
There is NO magic combination of Rom+Kernel that is going to magically make your battery last longer.
Your battery has X amount of usable stored electrical charge, and your phone will use it accordingly based on what you do on it.
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Roms, Kernel, and Age are all irrelevant!
A phone will last as long as the battery allows, and that's based on your usage of the phone. Period!
You use a lot of apps, it's going to die quicker.
You stream a lot of music/YouTube, it's going to die quicker.
There is NO magic combination of Rom+Kernel that is going to magically make your battery last longer.
Your battery has X amount of usable stored electrical charge, and your phone will use it accordingly based on what you do on it.
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So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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I don't think he understands or maybe is oversimplifying what he means. The Rom and the Kernal which affect the amount of systems running will affect battery life. The age as in the amount of times you've discharged and charged your phone over months and years will affect the battery life. There are tons of variables that affect it. One can say the kernal and the rom if they are running more systems or less then that's what he means by saying if you use more apps then it uses more battery but that isn't magic that's just use. So if you put a certain kernal and rom then that is affecting what you do on it which affects battery life. The X amount of storage a battery has degrades over time. The first answer when googled is below. I probably have almost 1000 charge cycles now. Nothing I can do about that.
"Charging a battery forces ions from the cathode to the anode; using the battery reverses the flow. Over time, this process wears out the cathode, which results in reduced capacity. A high-end lithium-polymer battery can lose about 20 percent of its capacity after 1000 charge cycles."
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I don't think he understands or maybe is oversimplifying what he means. The Rom and the Kernal which affect the amount of systems running will affect battery life. The age as in the amount of times you've discharged and charged your phone over months and years will affect the battery life. There are tons of variables that affect it. One can say the kernal and the rom if they are running more systems or less then that's what he means by saying if you use more apps then it uses more battery but that isn't magic that's just use. So if you put a certain kernal and rom then that is affecting what you do on it which affects battery life. The X amount of storage a battery has degrades over time. The first answer when googled is below. I probably have almost 1000 charge cycles now. Nothing I can do about that.
"Charging a battery forces ions from the cathode to the anode; using the battery reverses the flow. Over time, this process wears out the cathode, which results in reduced capacity. A high-end lithium-polymer battery can lose about 20 percent of its capacity after 1000 charge cycles."
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Exactly ;_;
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So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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Not if you have a bunch of garbage apps running in the background, constantly running some kind of process to check for incoming messages/app notifications/location tracking.
You wanna know how i went from having 10% battery life at the end of a work day to having over 50% battery life???
I stopped installing **** on my phone that i didn't absolutely need.
And low and behold, my battery life "magically" increased itself.

Does This Battery Life Look Bad?

So, I recently downloaded Android Oreo.
I did a factory reset and took screenshots of my battery activity today. I only had 2.5 hours of screen time (I keep my brightness at about 15% - 20%) and I barely used my phone while in my office.
I would like to keep Android System from running in the background, but when I turn it off, I find it back on following a phone restart...?
I have also found that none of my cache cleaners work anymore. Why is that?
Does this battery life look bad? I used to get better battery life.
2.5 hours with 50% left. Seems average.
I agree, about average. I haven't ran Oreo much, not more than a couple of days at a time & I don't have any screenshots but for me Oreo is worse in performance. Well statistically, with real world use I can't tell much of a difference.
So far I still like Nougat. I know I'm stating the obvious but everyone's usage & SOT will be different so some may say your stats are good, others may say not so good.
This is a typical weekday for me on Nougat. But I'm running a custom kernel & custom rom, no bloat & not a huge amount of apps installed. Display brightness 40% on average, display always set to max res. I First pair is today.
Now you got me curious, I should go back to Oreo & test. EDIT: Ok, I'm going back to Oreo right after this edit. I'll see how it does tomorrow.
Since Oreo update, I chose my word specifically , instead of upgrade. It appears standby idle battery is slightly improved.
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Well, using only samsung internet, of course you will get 6h hours sot .
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vojopd said:
Well, using only samsung internet, of course you will get 6h hours sot .
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Don't hate as I don't Facebook or messenger.
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Hate? Facebook? Messenger? Who talks about that? I am telling there aren't any games, youtube, music, movies, etc. Of course SOT wipl be good .
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Hate? Facebook? Messenger? Who talks about that? I am telling there aren't any games, youtube, music, movies, etc. Of course SOT wipl be good .
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Don't play games nor do I watch videos on a 6.3" screen. Guess I'm the minority.
Either way here's a screenshot of my Note 8 on Nougat with ****ebook app , didn't change much.
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Hate? Facebook? Messenger? Who talks about that? I am telling there aren't any games, youtube, music, movies, etc. Of course SOT wipl be good .
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Deleted. Was attempting to attach a screenshot of my battery usage with nougat and FB app. Still showed 8 plus hours SOT.
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So here's a typical weekday stat for me from today on Oreo. Took a hit in battery performance. But that's only 1 day of testing so not a fair comparison to my Nougat stat. Although I'm not a benchmark freak, benchmark results are pretty much the same if I use the appropiate kernel versions from the same dev.
Still not a fan of O although there are a few cool features, going back to N until all the compatibilites get worked out (getting closer though).
For me battery has gotten way worse. My phone goes from full to 90% in half hour of really light use
note3userr said:
For me battery has gotten way worse. My phone goes from full to 90% in half hour of really light use
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People will usually say, so I'll say it before, a clean install with a major change like N to O is usually recommended and I agree as most of the time it can take care of issues like this. But a clean install did not make a difference for me. Glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing this.
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People will usually say, so I'll say it before, a clean install with a major change like N to O is usually recommended and I agree as most of the time it can take care of issues like this. But a clean install did not make a difference for me. Glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing this.
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I did a clean install as well. It didn't help. Hopefully it will get better over time
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I did a clean install as well. It didn't help. Hopefully it will get better over time
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Hopefully it'll be ironed out for the Note 9
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Are the auto cache cleaning apps the culprit of bad battery drain/battery life?
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Hopefully it'll be ironed out for the Note 9
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Ah, that don't do me any good, I'm not the type to upgrade every year, not much of an upgrade anyway or worth it IMO. I'll wait for the Note 10, I think very good things will come for number 10. Hopefully a new custom kernel will fix it but until then, back to Nougat for me.
It seems to me since upgrading to O. My battery life seems poor. Dont know what they changed. O performs better on the pixel 2. Maybe I'm missing something. Who really knows.
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Don't have issues with batt life. But I'm seriously considering reverting back to nougat on my TMO device. Just need to research the process properly before doing it.
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Wow! I was eagerly expecting the oreo OTA, I even put a thread about oreo OTA experiences/opinions, but its a huge mixed bag, some say oreo improves fluency, other that have screen tint, batt drain, that no significant apparent changes, others that is snappier, etc, I have not rooted or pushed oreo firms, as I want to be very careful, because my 950F performs really very, very good, I am at a loss as of what to do when the OTA pops in my device, I am even considering to block it via bk

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