Anyone use nitrogen and pure nexus and has a preference? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I do so much work on my phone so need one that is smooth and quick with great battery. I have Pure Nexus now and it's fine but sometimes it seems to lag. Maybe they all do when jumping through lots of apps. Maybe I need to reboot daily to keep it smooth.

jeffrimerman said:
I do so much work on my phone so need one that is smooth and quick with great battery. I have Pure Nexus now and it's fine but sometimes it seems to lag. Maybe they all do when jumping through lots of apps. Maybe I need to reboot daily to keep it smooth.
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I don't think it should lag but you may give custom kernels a try.Lag sometimes happen due to throttling after heat.Custom kernel manage these issues at ease.
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Mr.Ak said:
I don't think it should lag but you may give custom kernels a try.Lag sometimes happen due to throttling after heat.Custom kernel manage these issues at ease.
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OK thank you. I have 3.10.40-PureKernel-Shamu-2.04 so it's a custom kernel meant to work fine with PureNexus I think. I'm sure it's just because I'm using nav, and other high usage apps.

jeffrimerman said:
OK thank you. I have 3.10.40-PureKernel-Shamu-2.04 so it's a custom kernel meant to work fine with PureNexus I think. I'm sure it's just because I'm using nav, and other high usage apps.
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IMO android uses a very smart way of managing stuff when multi-tasting to reduce lag.So it is still highly doubtable.
Why don't you try some other kernels and overclock possibly?
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Mr.Ak said:
IMO android uses a very smart way of managing stuff when multi-tasting to reduce lag.So it is still highly doubtable.
Why don't you try some other kernels and overclock possibly?
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Right now the phone doesn't last till much past 6p so I don't want to clock even more in case it uses more battery. It used to last longer so maybe when updating to 7.1.1 with the newer Pure Nexus that took some more. Or maybe it's just a 2014 phone with high mileage =). I used to go to sleep and overnight it hardly used energy now I notice when it's just idle it can use 20% overnight, maybe more. It could be an app I downloaded is running.

I use Nitrogen and no custom kernel and get above 6 hours screen time, very good ROM!

buschris said:
I use Nitrogen and no custom kernel and get above 6 hours screen time, very good ROM!
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Awesome thank you for that. I'll probably give it a try. I think it was in the top 5 custom roms on an article I read.

i finally switched to 7 on pure nexus...it's great...smooth...fast...had it running almost 300 hours without a reboot and it was still going strong...i haven't tried nitrogen...so can't say...but am happy with pn...i came from chroma rom...

Roms, Kernel, and Age are all irrelevant!
A phone will last as long as the battery allows, and that's based on your usage of the phone. Period!
You use a lot of apps, it's going to die quicker.
You stream a lot of music/YouTube, it's going to die quicker.
There is NO magic combination of Rom+Kernel that is going to magically make your battery last longer.
Your battery has X amount of usable stored electrical charge, and your phone will use it accordingly based on what you do on it.

pr0ndigy said:
Roms, Kernel, and Age are all irrelevant!
A phone will last as long as the battery allows, and that's based on your usage of the phone. Period!
You use a lot of apps, it's going to die quicker.
You stream a lot of music/YouTube, it's going to die quicker.
There is NO magic combination of Rom+Kernel that is going to magically make your battery last longer.
Your battery has X amount of usable stored electrical charge, and your phone will use it accordingly based on what you do on it.
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So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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Mr.Ak said:
So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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I don't think he understands or maybe is oversimplifying what he means. The Rom and the Kernal which affect the amount of systems running will affect battery life. The age as in the amount of times you've discharged and charged your phone over months and years will affect the battery life. There are tons of variables that affect it. One can say the kernal and the rom if they are running more systems or less then that's what he means by saying if you use more apps then it uses more battery but that isn't magic that's just use. So if you put a certain kernal and rom then that is affecting what you do on it which affects battery life. The X amount of storage a battery has degrades over time. The first answer when googled is below. I probably have almost 1000 charge cycles now. Nothing I can do about that.
"Charging a battery forces ions from the cathode to the anode; using the battery reverses the flow. Over time, this process wears out the cathode, which results in reduced capacity. A high-end lithium-polymer battery can lose about 20 percent of its capacity after 1000 charge cycles."

jeffrimerman said:
I don't think he understands or maybe is oversimplifying what he means. The Rom and the Kernal which affect the amount of systems running will affect battery life. The age as in the amount of times you've discharged and charged your phone over months and years will affect the battery life. There are tons of variables that affect it. One can say the kernal and the rom if they are running more systems or less then that's what he means by saying if you use more apps then it uses more battery but that isn't magic that's just use. So if you put a certain kernal and rom then that is affecting what you do on it which affects battery life. The X amount of storage a battery has degrades over time. The first answer when googled is below. I probably have almost 1000 charge cycles now. Nothing I can do about that.
"Charging a battery forces ions from the cathode to the anode; using the battery reverses the flow. Over time, this process wears out the cathode, which results in reduced capacity. A high-end lithium-polymer battery can lose about 20 percent of its capacity after 1000 charge cycles."
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Exactly ;_;
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Mr.Ak said:
So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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Not if you have a bunch of garbage apps running in the background, constantly running some kind of process to check for incoming messages/app notifications/location tracking.
You wanna know how i went from having 10% battery life at the end of a work day to having over 50% battery life???
I stopped installing **** on my phone that i didn't absolutely need.
And low and behold, my battery life "magically" increased itself.

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[Q] Looking for the most battery efficient rom/kernel combo

I am going to be traveling in Asia for a month. I don't need any of bells and whistles and I want a phone that is very stable, very energy efficient and GPS camera definitely has to works. Which rom/kernel will you recommend? any setting tricks? Thanks
I have tried Rod's MiuiMod, CM6.1.1, CM7 and many others.
I found that CM7 + WM 1/6/2011 kernel gives me the best battery life, but CM7 is still not in stable stage yet.
I have had the most battery life with Enomthers Rom, currently he is away on personal responsibilities but his latest stable rom is very battery efficient!
I have no recommendation as to kernel/rom combinations, but for long battery life I use this:
http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-Innocell-Battery-Google-Replacement/dp/B003FSTBP4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1296521084&sr=8-2
I got really tired of barely making through a day without having to recharge so I bought one of these. I got mine for $61 on Amazon and free shipping. It's 3200mah which is over twice the stock battery. My first full charge/discharge cycle I got over 34 hours of moderate usage and it's supposed to get better after a few charge cycles. It does make your phone about 30-40% thicker (comes with it's own custom battery cover), but for the battery life you get it's well worth the added thickness. I also find it's a little easier to hold on to.
Anyway, maybe not the solution you're looking for but for me it was well worth the money.
Just my 2 cents.
phburks said:
I have no recommendation as to kernel/rom combinations, but for long battery life I use this:
http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-Innocell-Battery-Google-Replacement/dp/B003FSTBP4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1296521084&sr=8-2
Just my 2 cents.
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That's one big battery Thanks tho, but I want my N1 to stay small.
I second the recommendation for Enomther's. Rock-stable.
I have no combo recommendation cuz I haven't found a really good one yet. Right now I'm using cm6.1 and wild monks kernel. It's been decent for me. But I suggest using set cpu, put on power save mode when you don't use the phone. It'll be there forever. Turn off data connection and gps as well. Also using less like half the animation helps speed up the phone and saves battery too.
Ps I'm combining inexus theme too and their icons plus the animations are amazing! My phone looks colorful as hell!
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spx2000 said:
That's one big battery Thanks tho, but I want my N1 to stay small.
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Lol yea it does add some bulk but it sure is reassuring to know I don't have worry about my battery dying before the day is over. I use my phone a lot and don't have time to really recharge it much and I don't like the idea of carrying extra batteries so this works very well for me.
I haven't done too many Roms, but miui has given me the most battery life out of stock, cm and miui.
I've been travelling and I managed to get 4-5 days with minimal calls and very light usage. If you use it normally with wifi and regular calls, 2-3 days is usually the limit.
Both these numbers are with auto airplane mode during my sleep hours.
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What i have heard is that CM7 is 20-30% more efficient with battery life than CM6
Not true
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That really is a personal opinion.
xzr3b0rnzx said:
Not true
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In my personal opinion, CM7 Nightlies are really stable. After a real heavy usage i.e. playing games, surfing, calls, messages, i get about 15 hours a day.
My phone is fully charged when I leave at 8 and by 8 pm battery will be somewhere between 40 and 45 % left.
Bugs are there with CM7 Nightlies but so far I haven't had any problems with it.
Recently I've been through about 3 roms, and of the three (rod's, micromod's own GB aosp, and leo's GB aosp, leo's gives me the best battery life.
It might be because he incorporated the battery driver, though.

Time for a change

Hi All,
I have finally shortlisted optimus g and nexus 4. I have to finalize one.
Nexus 4: 16 GB, Optimus G: 32 G
Nexus 4 Latest updates, Optimus G: very slow updates( I meant very slow), and every small developing community ( i meant really very small)
Nexus 4: no LTE, Optimus G: Supports LTE (in india LTE not available)
Nexus 4: no USB OTG support, Optimus G: (Supports pen drive mouse keyboard u name it)
Both devices have reported back cover crack issues and over heating issues. Please provide your views on this.
Both looks good.
Howz gaming performance?
Nexus in india is 25k where as optimus g is 30 k.
So which one to go for.
Currently using Incs for almost 2 years, awesome build quality and pretty good developing community.
Well if I'm not mistaken the nexus 4 is based of the lg. So with that in mind I'd go for the nexus 4.
Nexus 4
Cheaper
Latest version of android
Not sure if, but will probably get 4.3 version of android
So go for the nexus
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noremac258 said:
Well if I'm not mistaken the nexus 4 is based of the lg. So with that in mind I'd go for the nexus 4.
Nexus 4
Cheaper
Latest version of android
Not sure if, but Will probably get 4.3 version of android
So go for the nexus
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Correction. So yes, I would suggest the Nexus 4. Its got a nice big developer community too.
I thought you could turn the optimus into a N4 with a mod on xda
No joke
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poondog said:
I thought you could turn the optimus into a N4 with a mod on xda
No joke
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Yes we can convert n4 to og with a mod but lg abandons there devices once new device is out. Lg g pro is out.. Og2 is about to come.. So og will be a history. Very less development support.
FYI: the phone is available from august 2012 almost a year and just 38 threads in development section
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milan.gadakari said:
Yes we can convert n4 to og with a mod but lg abandons there devices once new device is out. Lg g pro is out.. Og2 is about to come.. So og will be a history. Very less development support.
FYI: the phone is available from august 2012 almost a year and just 38 threads in development section
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True but once it's a nexus 4 you don't have go worry about updates, you can have the latest android updates and versions with a N4 Rom
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Wait for the next Nexus if can't wait, go for Nexus 4.... you'll always get the most current Android
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getting an incredible s
hi guys, i need some opinions here
i'm thinking of getting an incredible s, as i got bored with the hd2 already
i liked incredible s because it fits right into my hand, and i liked holding it. here are my questions:
1) how is the phone? is it still fast for today's standard? (i'm thinking of using sense 4.1 roms)
2) will the speed of the rom increase if i use class 10 cards? my freind used a class10 on his nexushd2 ics and he said there's a noticeable
performance jump, but im skeptical
3) will there be any issues if i used sun global batteries with custom roms? i heard a while back that third-party batteries aren't compatible with
custom roms
thanks for your time yeah?
hasif63 said:
hi guys, i need some opinions here
i'm thinking of getting an incredible s, as i got bored with the hd2 already
i liked incredible s because it fits right into my hand, and i liked holding it. here are my questions:
1) how is the phone? is it still fast for today's standard? (i'm thinking of using sense 4.1 roms)
2) will the speed of the rom increase if i use class 10 cards? my freind used a class10 on his nexushd2 ics and he said there's a noticeable
performance jump, but im skeptical
3) will there be any issues if i used sun global batteries with custom roms? i heard a while back that third-party batteries aren't compatible with
custom roms
thanks for your time yeah?
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The Incredible S is a great phone but I think that in this current time and age, you can do a lot better.
For question 2, ummm, there is certainly the possibility but I think it would only be faster in regards to the activities related to the micro sd card. I think someone else should help me here. :laugh:
For question 3, batteries don't affect a ROM's booting and compatibility with custom ROM's. They are just batteries (like the stock one HTC gives you) that provides juice for your phone.
getting an incredible s
072665995 said:
The Incredible S is a great phone but I think that in this current time and age, you can do a lot better.
For question 2, ummm, there is certainly the possibility but I think it would only be faster in regards to the activities related to the micro sd card. I think someone else should help me here. :laugh:
For question 3, batteries don't affect a ROM's booting and compatibility with custom ROM's. They are just batteries (like the stock one HTC gives you) that provides juice for your phone.
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because i don't want to spend too much on a phone. besides, incredible s is pretty cheap in my area nowadays. i haven't used any proper android phone before. HD2 was a pseudo-android phone :laugh:
umm... so do i have to do any battery calibrations if i used third-party batteries?
hasif63 said:
because i don't want to spend too much on a phone. besides, incredible s is pretty cheap in my area nowadays. i haven't used any proper android phone before. HD2 was a pseudo-android phone :laugh:
umm... so do i have to do any battery calibrations if i used third-party batteries?
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You shouldn't need any additional calibration.
buying htc incredible s
072665995 said:
You shouldn't need any additional calibration.
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nice... good to know that :good:
hasif63 said:
nice... good to know that :good:
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You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
Hnk1 said:
You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
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They are not always necessary. 80% of the time when I flash a new ROM, I don't bother with wiping battery stats simply because it does not make a notable difference in battery life or readings whatsoever. I only calibrate battery if and ONLY if I know that I'm supposed to be getting better battery on a particular ROM
072665995 said:
They are not always necessary. 80% of the time when I flash a new ROM, I don't bother with wiping battery stats simply because it does not make a notable difference in battery life or readings whatsoever. I only calibrate battery if and ONLY if I know that I'm supposed to be getting better battery on a particular ROM
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Hnk1 said:
You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
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Seriously?
How many times does it take for people to realize that wiping battery stats is probably just as useful as trying to unlock the screen by screaming at it?
If you need the sources for why the battery stats doesn't matter at all, just look through my earlier posts Google it. I'm currently on 2G so it'll take ages for me to find it.
(No, not trying to sound hostile or anything, just tired of people still wasting their time on wiping the battery stats)
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hasif63 said:
nice... good to know that :good:
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Splux said:
Seriously?
How many times does it take for people to realize that wiping battery stats is probably just as useful as trying to unlock the screen by screaming at it?
If you need the sources for why the battery stats doesn't matter at all, just look through my earlier posts Google it. I'm currently on 2G so it'll take ages for me to find it.
(No, not trying to sound hostile or anything, just tired of people still wasting their time on wiping the battery stats)
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After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a better than waitng for battery to settle down.
"Better performance and battery-life is why most of us turn to custom ROMs. We keep trying from the available ROMs and stick to one that meets up to our expectations. Now there are two ways to find out how the battery performs- with the help of a battery monitor app (stock or third-party) and by taking note of the battery performance during the hours of a day.
If you feel that your device is not yielding good battery just because the battery monitor stats show it, you might be wrong in your judgement as most such apps sometimes lie to us.
Remember that with any ROM installed on your Android device, you will discover two things: 1. battery heat up, and 2. battery drain. And these issues for the most part are due to process of your phone’s new software and battery sync. It usually requires 3-4 full-charge and discharge cycles before things go to a normal state and after this, you will notice great improvement in battery performance. So, do not be quick in concluding anything about battery.
Let the battery calibrate and while you wait try one more thing. Whether you get a new phone or new software on your old device, avoid putting your device into charging mode frequently. Turn off the phone, plug charger, wait till it is fully charged and then use it till it is fully discharged. Repeating this several times will improve the battery-life of your device. I have tested it and it really works. "
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Hnk1 said:
After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a required if you are having problems!
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Calibrating as in fully charge and then let it discharge to <5%, yes. As in removing a file which only saves what apps used how much battery, how the *beeeep* is that supposed to help your battery?
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Hnk1 said:
After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a better than waitng for battery to settle down.
"Better performance and battery-life is why most of us turn to custom ROMs. We keep trying from the available ROMs and stick to one that meets up to our expectations. Now there are two ways to find out how the battery performs- with the help of a battery monitor app (stock or third-party) and by taking note of the battery performance during the hours of a day.
If you feel that your device is not yielding good battery just because the battery monitor stats show it, you might be wrong in your judgement as most such apps sometimes lie to us.
Remember that with any ROM installed on your Android device, you will discover two things: 1. battery heat up, and 2. battery drain. And these issues for the most part are due to process of your phone’s new software and battery sync. It usually requires 3-4 full-charge and discharge cycles before things go to a normal state and after this, you will notice great improvement in battery performance. So, do not be quick in concluding anything about battery.
Let the battery calibrate and while you wait try one more thing. Whether you get a new phone or new software on your old device, avoid putting your device into charging mode frequently. Turn off the phone, plug charger, wait till it is fully charged and then use it till it is fully discharged. Repeating this several times will improve the battery-life of your device. I have tested it and it really works. "
DroidVeiws
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Splux said:
Calibrating as in fully charge and then let it discharge to <5%, yes. As in removing a file which only saves what apps used how much battery, how the *beeeep* is that supposed to help your battery?
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whoops i mistook battery calibration as wiping battery stats :silly:
but yeah, honestly, my battery rarely falls below 30%. Im more of a go home then walk out a couple hours later so charging from 5% takes a bit too long. Thus I never do battery calibration. In addition it doesn't really do anything. Battery does not improve to a noticeable point where its actually worth the 5 or 6 hours wait to charge the phone :/
072665995 said:
whoops i mistook battery calibration as wiping battery stats :silly:
but yeah, honestly, my battery rarely falls below 30%. Im more of a go home then walk out a couple hours later so charging from 5% takes a bit too long. Thus I never do battery calibration. In addition it doesn't really do anything. Battery does not improve to a noticeable point where its actually worth the 5 or 6 hours wait to charge the phone :/
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5-6 hours to charge from 5%?! Occasionally I kill my battery (it's actually good to do that once in a while) and it doesn't take that long to recharge for me
Do you use a cheap charger with like 500mA output?
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Splux said:
5-6 hours to charge from 5%?! Occasionally I kill my battery (it's actually good to do that once in a while) and it doesn't take that long to recharge for me
Do you use a cheap charger with like 500mA output?
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err no
its the one HTC gave me

Extremely bad battery life

I've been experiencing very bad battery life lately. Currently using PAC, I could lose 10% of battery in under 20 minutes of normal web browsing with the brightness set all the way to low. I'm underclocked and undervolted, battery health is good. I don't really know what's causing my media server thing to use so much battery but it's definitely chewing up more juice than normal. How am I supposed to fix this?
Stop media scanning.
On the Store there is an app called Rescan Media Root.
Media server drain ia usually caused by the sd scanning proccess, sometimes a bad file can cause it to go nuts and keeps the proccess alive, thus killing your battery.
Give it a go.
DrKrFfXx said:
Stop media scanning.
On the Store there is an app called Rescan Media Root.
Media server drain ia usually caused by the sd scanning proccess, sometimes a bad file can cause it to go nuts and keeps the proccess alive, thus killing your battery.
Give it a go.
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I will also try this, my phone is only two days old and the battery life on this device is absolutely horrible compared to my Samsung Galaxy Note 2, I will check back with you folks and let you know the results
It is horrible compared to a Note 2, even if you didn't have that bug.
Plus, CM, AOSP, and PAC, all of them don't have that great of a battery life compared to stock.
Say you can get a solid 5+ hours out of a stock rom with few tweaks, whereas on those buolds mentioned you could get 4h, with not so great idling times.
DrKrFfXx said:
It is horrible compared to a Note 2, even if you didn't have that bug.
Plus, CM, AOSP, and PAC, all of them don't have that great of a battery life compared to stock.
Say you can get a solid 5+ hours out of a stock rom with few tweaks, whereas on those buolds mentioned you could get 4h, with not so great idling times.
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mines totally stock too
DrKrFfXx said:
It is horrible compared to a Note 2, even if you didn't have that bug.
Plus, CM, AOSP, and PAC, all of them don't have that great of a battery life compared to stock.
Say you can get a solid 5+ hours out of a stock rom with few tweaks, whereas on those buolds mentioned you could get 4h, with not so great idling times.
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Obviously horrible compared to a note 2 since note 2 has a bigger battery and lower resolution screen?
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DrKrFfXx said:
Stop media scanning.
On the Store there is an app called Rescan Media Root.
Media server drain ia usually caused by the sd scanning proccess, sometimes a bad file can cause it to go nuts and keeps the proccess alive, thus killing your battery.
Give it a go.
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and if its not rooted?
I'm trying it our now, report back in a day or so. This phone is bound to have worse battery life than the Note 2, it has 2 more cores, 2x more pixels, LCD screen, smaller battery, if you want great battery life go back to the Note or get a battery case. I didn't know that stock gives me more battery, maybe I should go back :/
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and if its not rooted?
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how can you have Custom ROM, but not want root?
sebastianlow said:
I'm trying it our now, report back in a day or so. This phone is bound to have worse battery life than the Note 2, it has 2 more cores, 2x more pixels, LCD screen, smaller battery, if you want great battery life go back to the Note or get a battery case. I didn't know that stock gives me more battery, maybe I should go back :/
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Sony stock is very good rom to me. I will go to custom rom only if sony discontinued the updates, or sony makes the rom while drunk ( too much bugs, unstable... )
And, don't undervolt too much, -100mV is ok,
there's some test out there (not APQ8064), when undervolt too much, the processor will messed up the calculation, and re-calculate the process, wasting more battery and time. [this is applied to my old xperia arc]
If on Intel X86, I never get any issues/drawbacks from undervolting.
Sorry if I'm wrong, and sorry for my bad english.
sebastianlow said:
I've been experiencing very bad battery life lately. Currently using PAC, I could lose 10% of battery in under 20 minutes of normal web browsing with the brightness set all the way to low. I'm underclocked and undervolted, battery health is good. I don't really know what's causing my media server thing to use so much battery but it's definitely chewing up more juice than normal. How am I supposed to fix this?
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Pretty common on cm based Roms.
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~iPod~nano~ said:
how can you have Custom ROM, but not want root?
Sony stock is very good rom to me. I will go to custom rom only if sony discontinued the updates, or sony makes the rom while drunk ( too much bugs, unstable... )
And, don't undervolt too much, -100mV is ok,
there's some test out there (not APQ8064), when undervolt too much, the processor will messed up the calculation, and re-calculate the process, wasting more battery and time. [this is applied to my old xperia arc]
If on Intel X86, I never get any issues/drawbacks from undervolting.
Sorry if I'm wrong, and sorry for my bad english.
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i never said i had a custom rom, i went to install it, and it said i had to be rooted, and I'm not rooting my phone yet, thats why I asked if something similar was available for non rooted users.
Of course I'm not saying it's gonna get magically better but you should really give it more of a chance than two days a couple full charge cycles will help some,plus being new your prob setting up alot etc
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Jonathan2677 said:
Of course I'm not saying it's gonna get magically better but you should really give it more of a chance than two days a couple full charge cycles will help some,plus being new your prob setting up alot etc
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thats definitely true, I know these batteries aren't supposed to have "memory" but should I do the full charge and drain with them?
I guess I'm under the assumption of it being newer and better technology then my Galaxy Note 2 I was coming from, I was expecting it to be right off the bat better.
thanks
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thats definitely true, I know these batteries aren't supposed to have "memory" but should I do the full charge and drain with them?
I guess I'm under the assumption of it being newer and better technology then my Galaxy Note 2 I was coming from, I was expecting it to be right off the bat better.
thanks
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Diff threads I read say it's no good to let it drain down to low, I usually charge around 20,30 percent I do about once a month let drain completely
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Diff threads I read say it's no good to let it drain down to low, I usually charge around 20,30 percent I do about once a month let drain completely
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I'm gonna try that, thanks
Bad battery? So this type not worthed to buy?
Hey, the "rescan media server" app fixes the battery drain temporarily. How do I find out and delete the file that is causing my media scanner to keep running? I switched over to another ROM a few hours ago and media scanner is still taking a big chunk of my battery until I kill it. Do I need to reformat my card? Run anti virus?
Try this app. It is an android issue not an Sony issues. The mediaserver running all the time. This app will help. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.addz.mediascannerroot
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~iPod~nano~ said:
how can you have Custom ROM, but not want root?
Sony stock is very good rom to me. I will go to custom rom only if sony discontinued the updates, or sony makes the rom while drunk ( too much bugs, unstable... )
And, don't undervolt too much, -100mV is ok,
there's some test out there (not APQ8064), when undervolt too much, the processor will messed up the calculation, and re-calculate the process, wasting more battery and time. [this is applied to my old xperia arc]
If on Intel X86, I never get any issues/drawbacks from undervolting.
Sorry if I'm wrong, and sorry for my bad english.
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I'm undervolted with -300 and my battery is lovely without any problems..
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I'm undervolted with -300 and my battery is lovely without any problems..
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Crazy undervolt. I thought my -200 was about the max you could achieve.

How I am getting good battery life: A simple guide with some links and stuff!

I see a lot of people complaining about battery life, myself included. I have tried just about every ROM there is and used all the battery saving apps and I think I've found a winning combination that will leave you with a fast phone and good screen on/off battery life. My stats so far today are 8 hours off the charger with 1 hr 30 mins SOT and still 80% battery left and that's shifting between my work WiFi which has many access points and causes WLAN_RX wakelocks and the crappy signal around this area.
I use the phone for general stuff like browsing the web, playing the odd 2D game whilst bored and push notifications from various social networking apps and I have been addicted to achieving 7+ hours of SOT over 2 days since I owned a Galaxy S1 many years ago. Instead of writing a crazy guide I'll just keep this thread simple and post my current configuration that is giving me good battery life:
- BOE2 bootloader, modem and ROM (I'm using Nameless ROM v2 for 910G)
- Roughly 25% brightness, all sync on, location @ GPS only (High Accuracy only when using Maps)
- Followed THIS GUIDE very closely which gives amazing deep sleep and still get notifications with the Push Notification Fixer app
- Uninstalled Facebook and Messenger and use Tinfoil with Pushbullet and the RSS Feed and set to open Tinfoil when I get a notification: Here's how to do that
- Discharge fully to 0% and then turn on again to make sure fully dead, then charge to 100% to calibrate battery
Wallah! You should get good battery life now provided you use the phone for the same things I do. It's that easy!
You need to be rooted for most of that thread don't you? I need my banking app from time to time so I can't root. Gutted!
Joe
Thank you for taking the time to write this up, but you should mention in the thread title that you need to be rooted. Thanks anyways though. I'm not the type to root. If Samsung can't deliver a good product for the $800 device they made, the device should be returned (which will be my case if the 5.1.1 update doesn't come in July or it doesn't fix the issues I'm having with this device).
rpalmer92 said:
I see a lot of people complaining about battery life, myself included. I have tried just about every ROM there is and used all the battery saving apps and I think I've found a winning combination that will leave you with a fast phone and good screen on/off battery life. My stats so far today are 8 hours off the charger with 1 hr 30 mins SOT and still 80% battery left and that's shifting between my work WiFi which has many access points and causes WLAN_RX wakelocks and the crappy signal around this area.
I use the phone for general stuff like browsing the web, playing the odd 2D game whilst bored and push notifications from various social networking apps and I have been addicted to achieving 7+ hours of SOT over 2 days since I owned a Galaxy S1 many years ago. Instead of writing a crazy guide I'll just keep this thread simple and post my current configuration that is giving me good battery life:
- BOE2 bootloader, modem and ROM (I'm using Nameless ROM v2 for 910G)
- Roughly 25% brightness, all sync on, location @ GPS only (High Accuracy only when using Maps)
- Followed THIS GUIDE very closely which gives amazing deep sleep and still get notifications with the Push Notification Fixer app
- Uninstalled Facebook and Messenger and use Tinfoil with Pushbullet and the RSS Feed and set to open Tinfoil when I get a notification: Here's how to do that
- Discharge fully to 0% and then turn on again to make sure fully dead, then charge to 100% to calibrate battery
Wallah! You should get good battery life now provided you use the phone for the same things I do. It's that easy!
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Fully discharging a Li-Ion battery is not healthy for the long term life of the battery.
When will the myth of "re-calibrating" a battery finally die?!?
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine. There is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life.
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Thanks for the guide, and I'm not sure why anyone on XDA would not be rooted tbf
senectus said:
Fully discharging a Li-Ion battery is not healthy for the long term life of the battery.
When will the myth of "re-calibrating" a battery finally die?!?
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Smartphone batteries haven't needed to be calibrated in years. The only time you ever had to "calibrate" your battery was when your phone would sit at either 5% or 1% for hours before dying.
Even then you were calibrating your phones interpretation of the battery voltage levels, not the battery itself. Unless I'm very much mistaken battery charging is handled by integrated hardware, not software.
As a software bug overcharging a Li-Po is dangerous and completely avoidable
Tom540 said:
Thanks for the guide, and I'm not sure why anyone on XDA would not be rooted tbf
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Because banking apps won't work on rooted devices.
Tom540 said:
Thanks for the guide, and I'm not sure why anyone on XDA would not be rooted tbf
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Because root trips Knox which means in my workplace I can't use the phone for work proposes.
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Most of the software needed on those guide required exposed.. My question is does amplify, greenify boost, and powernap works on touchwiz lollipop? Also does the current xposed works stably for now?
I have no battery issues. Got 2 x 4500mah from chima as well.
joebongo said:
Because banking apps won't work on rooted devices.
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Lol that sucks man my banking app still works after root even on cyanogenmod
Tom540 said:
Thanks for the guide, and I'm not sure why anyone on XDA would not be rooted tbf
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really??????
I see no need to root - does this mean I'm not allowed in here?
bonerp said:
really??????
I see no need to root - does this mean I'm not allowed in here?
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Lol
My Note 4 version can't even get full root, so I guess I'm not allowed either.
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toofimoofi said:
I have no battery issues. Got 2 x 4500mah from chima as well.
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Link for them? How they last? Fit with oem cover ?
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Thanks for sharing this info just have one question I see from some of your other posts that you have used other roms is there much difference in battery between tw roms to cm roms
Thanks
joebongo said:
Because banking apps won't work on rooted devices.
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Huh? Never had a problem running official apps from two different banks.
I'm finding TW to be slightly better on battery under my circumstances - which consist of terrible signal fluctuation and rx_wlan wakelocks due to so many wireless arrays at work - however I will probably go back to CM12.1 soon or wait for Android M developer preview to be ported to Note 4 (fingers crossed) as I just love how stock and minimalistic everything is on stock droid CM and AOSP and it seems to be a lot snappier when combined with L-Speed mod.
joebongo said:
Because banking apps won't work on rooted devices.
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My banking apps work a treat! Especially since you can just disable root and BAM it runs!
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Link for them? How they last? Fit with oem cover ?
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They fit with the original note cover. And they last a bit longer then original battery.
I bought 1 as well & I get about 3 more hours. .... with the same use as with the original battery !!!!! Definitely worth it, ,, even if its only 3 hours
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Best or ideal kernel settings for best battery life with good performance?

The title explains it all—I'm wondering what the best kernel settings are to achieve the best battery life without completely dropping performance. I've never tweaked the kernel on any phone I've owned before, so I have no idea what those settings might be. I currently get around 5-6 hours of SOT, which is great for heavy usage but with a battery those huge we should expect way more.
I'm currently playing around with majorly under clocking the CPU (Currently testing at 1.2 GHz) and have yet to notice a difference in performance. I'll update with battery improvements if any arise.
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im on zzmove with profile 6, run only 2 core at 2.4Ghz and every thing seem good
phone run cool and great in game(framerate still good and more stable since no throttling at all, before that with stock, my phone get hot and lag if i play asphat for long) not sure about battery yet but seem good
Try computerfreak ROM, i'm getting 77 hrs on battery and 6 SOT!
Oops just now noticed I had replies.
I'm currently running Resurrection Remix and I seem to be getting better battery life than I was on stock, which is odd; however, I wish to get more. Update me on those kernel settings.
Also I noticed that when I'm at school the cellular signal drains my battery considerably. The signal there is poor, is there any way I can minimize the drainage?
Latiken said:
Oops just now noticed I had replies.
I'm currently running Resurrection Remix and I seem to be getting better battery life than I was on stock, which is odd; however, I wish to get more. Update me on those kernel settings.
Also I noticed that when I'm at school the cellular signal drains my battery considerably. The signal there is poor, is there any way I can minimize the drainage?
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When im not doing any texting i usually put my phone in airplane mode...
iceblitz4 said:
When im not doing any texting i usually put my phone in airplane mode...
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That's a ridiculously easy thing to do, I can't believe I didn't think of this. However, its rather inconvenient. Any other ways? I heard back in 4.4.4 that there was a way to disable certain bands or something to consume less power when you have bad signal.
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That's a ridiculously easy thing to do, I can't believe I didn't think of this. However, its rather inconvenient. Any other ways? I heard back in 4.4.4 that there was a way to disable certain bands or something to consume less power when you have bad signal.
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Well i was on 4.4.4 was really bad didnt know how too fix it.. try to get greenify if ur rooted currently havent charged my phone in like 2 days its kinda hard too kill the battery sometimes
I'm on rr and honestly I'm not getting the best battery. Like 3.5 hour on screen time. It does still make it through the day though. I changed the kernel settings to conservative under cpu, which helped a lot from previously getting under 3.
nils39 said:
I'm on rr and honestly I'm not getting the best battery. Like 3.5 hour on screen time. It does still make it through the day though. I changed the kernel settings to conservative under cpu, which helped a lot from previously getting under 3.
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i've heard RR has bad battery life imo Would did u find that under the kernel settings?
iceblitz4 said:
i've heard RR has bad battery life imo Would did u find that under the kernel settings?
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Settings, configs, performance tuning, kernal tweaks, then in the app in the cpu tab, the cpu governor option. That's where I found it and I turned it down and I'm getting better battery.
That's odd. I get considerable better battery life on RR than I did on stock. I've hit 5.5 and even 6 hours of SOT with heavy to medium use (when I'm not at school at least).
Same here, but I noticed it lasts much longer with Greenify and Amplify installed with Xposed. I lose about 2-3% during standby mode during the night....whereas before I lost about 10-15% even while on RR.
Just got 7HR and 4 mins screen on time with in 2 days didnt use my phone at school only when i was at home so i guess 7hr's is good..
EDIT: i am on stock ROM
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Just got 7HR and 4 mins screen on time with in 2 days didnt use my phone at school only when i was at home so i guess 7hr's is good..
EDIT: i am on stock ROM
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That sounds right about what stock should be getting for some users. It's good to reference stock with your personal use versus someone else.
1 hour of a playing a game with full brightness will use significantly more battery than an hour of book reading on night move although they both technically have the same screen on time.
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richii0207 said:
That sounds right about what stock should be getting for some users. It's good to reference stock with your personal use versus someone else.
1 hour of a playing a game with full brightness will use significantly more battery than an hour of book reading on night move although they both technically have the same screen on time.
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I usually consistently got about 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time on stock with medium to heavy usage at school and at home.
On Resurrection Remix, I usually get 5 or sometimes 5 and a half or 6 hours, with heavy usage at home. On school days, I can only manage to get around 3, which I find incredibly odd. I chalk it up to the poor signal at my school draining my battery.
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I usually consistently got about 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time on stock with medium to heavy usage at school and at home.
On Resurrection Remix, I usually get 5 or sometimes 5 and a half or 6 hours, with heavy usage at home. On school days, I can only manage to get around 3, which I find incredibly odd. I chalk it up to the poor signal at my school draining my battery.
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Yeah put my in airplane mode drains i think every couple hours maybe 3.. 5 hrs is decent with that ROM IMO
iceblitz4 said:
Yeah put my in airplane mode drains i think every couple hours maybe 3.. 5 hrs is decent with that ROM IMO
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It definitely is decent, but with a battery this huge we should be getting way more. Especially since Moto and Verizon preached about 48hr battery life.
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It definitely is decent, but with a battery this huge we should be getting way more. Especially since Moto and Verizon preached about 48hr battery life.
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Yeah so true i guess thats Motorola and Verizon for ya lol
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It definitely is decent, but with a battery this huge we should be getting way more. Especially since Moto and Verizon preached about 48hr battery life.
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You can get 48 hrs on the Turbo. You can also get 5 hrs. Like I said before, it all depends on your personal usage. Perhaps they have a baseline test they do on every phone so there's no variable aside from battery.
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