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Q>> rooting while retaining OTA updates, is it possible?

I'm currently on LA1 and my note is still unrooted, but I want to root to use some apps such as titanium backup.
Is there any way my note can be rooted (just rooted) but I can still update my note thru OTA?
@sir dr.ketan: since I can't post at your post here, I'd like to ask, can I use the "I want just root" method and still retain the ability to update thru OTA?
Thanks

dknight178 said:
I'm currently on LA1 and my note is still unrooted, but I want to root to use some apps such as titanium backup.
Is there any way my note can be rooted (just rooted) but I can still update my note thru OTA?
@sir dr.ketan: since I can't post at your post here, I'd like to ask, can I use the "I want just root" method and still retain the ability to update thru OTA?
Thanks
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Yes, it`s possible
What you do is root your phone with InitialCFRootflasher link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331784. Goes till KL7, if you are on a later rom, downgrade (flash KKA for instance). After gaining root install the original kernel with Odin for your rom. Than in CWM manager flash the Zimage of the corresponding CFRoot kernel and you`re done. Works only with stock rom`s.
For later rom`s than KL7 you can flash stock firmware with Mobile Odin, see Chainfires`s thread.

dknight178 said:
I'm currently on LA1 and my note is still unrooted, but I want to root to use some apps such as titanium backup.
Is there any way my note can be rooted (just rooted) but I can still update my note thru OTA?
@sir dr.ketan: since I can't post at your post here, I'd like to ask, can I use the "I want just root" method and still retain the ability to update thru OTA?
Thanks
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I dont remember but most probable it was you, i had PM few min back
Your Rooted phone will get OTA update, but it will lose Root.
And once your Note updated to newer ROM (Kl7/LA1/3/4 n abobe), you wont root it again.
So after rooting, better you update it by method i have mentioned in post#2 of this thread, not on OTA to keep your Root intact
Edit : Oh just i have read, you are on LA1, you dont have possibility of direct Root, you have to downgrade first

[Q] Rooting and OTA

Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you

buzmay said:
Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you
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No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom

IINexusII said:
No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom
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But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618

buzmay said:
But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
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Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.

farang4u said:
Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.
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Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks

buzmay said:
Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks
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As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.

farang4u said:
As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.
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But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?

buzmay said:
But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?
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You need custom recovery to run the rooting process. After your system is rooted you can then flash back to the stock recovery. You should still have root access but I could be wrong. Download "Root Checker" from the play store, run it to see if your device is still rooted. You still need a stock recovery to receive OTA updates though.

The reason you need stock recovery is that you can't install an official update with custom recovery. The type of recovery you have doesn't affect root access.
The reason you have to keep your system files perfectly stock is that an OTA is a patch, meaning it doesn't necessarily replace entire files but mainly snippets of code. If the system files are not stock, it can't do this properly. So it checks /system before running and stops if things are not perfectly stock.
You can get OTAs being rooted, you just can't install them unless you have stock recovery and a fully stock rom.
If you're stock on 4.2.2 right now, you can't s-off, so don't worry about that.

You don't have to flash a custom rom, but you can flash a stock rooted rom. With OTAs, you play the cat-and-mouse game. Can I root it? Did the HBOOT update and kill current S-OFF procedures?
If 4.3 does come out, all you would have to do is wait for a few days for a dev to cook a stock rooted 4.3 rom. AT&T always lags with updates, yet I have a fully functioning 4.2.2 M7 with LTE and no AT&T bloat all thanks to the devs who cook stock rooted roms.

[Q] i have a moto x dev edition vzw

here my problem i've unlocked bootloader rooted and installed twrp but i cant update my phone to 4.4. everytime i take the ota update my phone just boots and shutdowns and repeats. any suggestions?

bk07 said:
here my problem i've unlocked bootloader rooted and installed twrp but i cant update my phone to 4.4. everytime i take the ota update my phone just boots and shutdowns and repeats. any suggestions?
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you're rooted trying to do an OTA?
once you root, accepting an OTA can mess up your phone or make you lose root.

PremierGT said:
you're rooted trying to do an OTA?
once you root, accepting an OTA can mess up your phone or make you lose root.
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idc about losing root b/c it has an unlockedbootloader getting root back is the easy part i do want the update to 4.4 though

bk07 said:
idc about losing root b/c it has an unlockedbootloader getting root back is the easy part i do want the update to 4.4 though
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flash back to stock recovery. then do OTA. should work for you.

PremierGT said:
flash back to stock recovery. then do OTA. should work for you.
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i've tryed that as well

bk07 said:
i've tryed that as well
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don't flash back to it in twrp. use rsdlite or manually flash it with fastboot commands. if you actually flashed the full ota and didn't have root or twrp anymore then you would be able to take the OTA no problem.

jayboyyyy said:
don't flash back to it in twrp. use rsdlite or manually flash it with fastboot commands. if you actually flashed the full ota and didn't have root or twrp anymore then you would be able to take the OTA no problem.
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Oddly I've done that even before I put twrp on my phone I used mfastboot with the stock IMG I got from moto. I did the update right when I got the phone and it did what I described so I thought I for find a something where I could flash stock to my phone by using twrp.

Download Motorola device manager. It should automatically restore the software to stock 4.4.
http://d1tsx1og7dz7v4.cloudfront.net/MotorolaDeviceManager_2.4.5.exe

thx for the help i had to mfastboot 4.4

This is your easiest option. All you need to do is run this utility. It will install drivers, download firmware, and flash back to stock. I used it earlier, and it's brilliant.
Even if you've already solved your problem, I highly recommend saving this for later use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597625

[Q] Odin back to stock

Hi there,
I am trying to restore my phone back to stock firmware in order to return it for insurance. Currently, I was able to unroot the phone and it is on the NG3 stock firmware. I still have safestrap recovery installed and I want to use odin to return the phone to 100% stock like it was when I got it. The only stock firmware I could find was for the NCE build. Would it work to flash that with odin and then OTA to NG3? If not, would somebody be able to share the correct NG3 firmware that I could flash with odin?
Thanks so much for your help!

Yes NCE will revert it to the day you bought it.

ellie692 said:
Hi there,
I am trying to restore my phone back to stock firmware in order to return it for insurance. Currently, I was able to unroot the phone and it is on the NG3 stock firmware. I still have safestrap recovery installed and I want to use odin to return the phone to 100% stock like it was when I got it. The only stock firmware I could find was for the NCE build. Would it work to flash that with odin and then OTA to NG3? If not, would somebody be able to share the correct NG3 firmware that I could flash with odin?
Thanks so much for your help!
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If your phone isn't rooted and you've confirmed using root checker already just uninstall Safestrap apk.

How to install OTA update on rooted moto g 2014?

I am using a rooted moto g 2014. I have an ota update notification. how to install the the ota update? I'm using twrp 2.8.6.0 custom recovery.

You need to go back to stock recovery to install the updates. However the update might fail on a rooted phone and you might need to unroot it. Also you need to remove rooted apps like xposed to have a successful OTA. For a smooth OTA, I would suggest you move back to stock ROM and recovery and then OTA update.

pank.dhnd said:
You need to go back to stock recovery to install the updates. However the update might fail on a rooted phone and you might need to unroot it. Also you need to remove rooted apps like xposed to have a successful OTA. For a smooth OTA, I would suggest you move back to stock ROM and recovery and then OTA update.
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Share the process plz... (in details)

Here is the post to flash the stock recovery and firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/official-stock-firmware-5-0-2-lxb22-46-t3019612
Make sure you back up your data before you perform the procedure. Also for being safe side, back up all the contents of your internal memory.
Good luck