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Hi all,
I know the N4 has enough source code in AOSP and elsewhere to be able to build an AOSP ROM, but it doesn't quite seem "official" and doesn't offer that undeniable security of "Nexus support" that many have come to know and love. Now, I know people have said it's due to the Qualcomm chip being so new that it would take time to officially work it in, and that it'll likely come around with 4.2.2. Even still, I'm paranoid (just having bought an N4 myself). Is anyone else worried about the N4's future? Or is it just buyer's paranoia?
I'd love to hear some thoughts on this!
Just paranoid, you can't build a fully working Nexus 7 ROM solely from AOSP either, thanks to Tegra.
Rusty! said:
Just paranoid, you can't build a fully working Nexus 7 ROM solely from AOSP either, thanks to Tegra.
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I figured that it was just that. But I suppose I was just seeking some reassurance haha. Between the recent articles on LG only making "as many Nexus 4's as they want," the speculations going around about the Nexus 5, and this lack of any word on AOSP support, I just got awfully scared that the Nexus 4 might be one of those devices that isn't around and supported for very long.
Speculations....Don't you love them when device is new...
Give it another month or two and everything will go back to "normal", just like with any other device.
undercover said:
Speculations....Don't you love them when device is new...
Give it another month or two and everything will go back to "normal", just like with any other device.
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Haha I know, I know. But this was a big buy for me; relatively expensive and I'm ditching VZW for it. I'm just worried that I'll regret it later on, I guess.
andoird213 said:
Haha I know, I know. But this was a big buy for me; relatively expensive and I'm ditching VZW for it. I'm just worried that I'll regret it later on, I guess.
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Learn to support yourself?
If you are relying on others to satisfy your purchase, well sooner or later you'll be in an unsupported boat.
tweaked said:
Learn to support yourself?
If you are relying on others to satisfy your purchase, well sooner or later you'll be in an unsupported boat.
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I've built AOSP for it myself, that isn't the issue; it's a more general statement. I'm not relying on anyone for satisfaction, but there's a certain plus to being in a larger community rather than in one where it's only a few who feel stuck with the device.
andoird213 said:
I've built AOSP for it myself, that isn't the issue; it's a more general statement. I'm not relying on anyone for satisfaction, but there's a certain plus to being in a larger community rather than in one where it's only a few who feel stuck with the device.
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Thats true. This is the nexus. I think you are ok there.
tweaked said:
Thats true. This is the nexus. I think you are ok there.
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Here's to that!
When is development for the device going to pick up? There's not much out there! I know it just came out but I expected more. I installed the Sky high Kernel after I rooted and I really like it. I have my A15 cores overclocked to 2.1GHz and have all cores undervolted, as well as overclocked the GPU and the device is totally stable!! My only issue with root/SkyHigh kernel (not sure which is the issue) is that my screen mirroring does not work. It will try to connect and say hardware issue. Anyways, everyone just post your thoughts, opinions and such about the device and development. I'd love to hear ideas and info out there. This device is AmAzInG!
Yep the 8.4 got a kernel but nary a peep on any rom activity. I think the problem is that most developers that wanted a high res tab like this already bought the Pro model and are not upgrading to the S.
I'm waiting on someone to port CM over so I can go pure Android and get rid of this excessive Touchwiz javascript lag on pageloads. For that I'd happily give up the gimmicky stuff like split screen that I rarely use anyway.
mitchellvii said:
Yep the 8.4 got a kernel but nary a peep on any rom activity. I think the problem is that most developers that wanted a high res tab like this already bought the Pro model and are not upgrading to the S.
I'm waiting on someone to port CM over so I can go pure Android and get rid of this excessive Touchwiz javascript lag on pageloads. For that I'd happily give up the gimmicky stuff like split screen that I rarely use anyway.
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Cm??? Good luck.
mitchellvii said:
Yep the 8.4 got a kernel but nary a peep on any rom activity. I think the problem is that most developers that wanted a high res tab like this already bought the Pro model and are not upgrading to the S.
I'm waiting on someone to port CM over so I can go pure Android and get rid of this excessive Touchwiz javascript lag on pageloads. For that I'd happily give up the gimmicky stuff like split screen that I rarely use anyway.
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I personally have been a fan of the Touchwiz UI. And actually like and use a lot of its features. This is a very capable tablet and I think devs will arise soon.
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Cm??? Good luck.
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Why not? The Tab Pro line has CM.
There will be more development when we have a working recovery. No one really wants to drop mods if there's no way to flash them. Hopefully Team Win will read my email.
mitchellvii said:
Why not? The Tab Pro line has CM.
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All the devs just laid out good $ for the pro....its gonna be a while we get any good devs. Just enjoy touchwiz and root.
12MaNy said:
There will be more development when we have a working recovery. No one really wants to drop mods if there's no way to flash them. Hopefully Team Win will read my email.
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Philz recovery please.
suzook said:
All the devs just laid out good $ for the pro....its gonna be a while we get any good devs. Just enjoy touchwiz and root.
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The S line is better than the Pro, right?
Stupid1337deer said:
The S line is better than the Pro, right?
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Other than the screen? Same. Unless a Dev is really wanting amoled screen, we might be Sol for a while. Sammy needs to stop making new tabs every few months.
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Other than the screen? Same. Unless a Dev is really wanting amoled screen, we might be Sol for a while. Sammy needs to stop making new tabs every few months.
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Well I love the screen lol.
mitchellvii said:
Why not? The Tab Pro line has CM.
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No, only the Qualcomm based Snapdragons, not Exynos based models like the Tab S.
Freakstyler said:
No, only the Qualcomm based Snapdragons, not Exynos based models like the Tab S.
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Ur right. Forgot about the Exynos thing.
I'll tell you this,if we get anxious about a new device and the possible abilities. so will the devs
Recovery works well so it won't be long
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Other than the screen? Same. Unless a Dev is really wanting amoled screen, we might be Sol for a while. Sammy needs to stop making new tabs every few months.
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I would disagree. It's better looking, lighter. Software and hardware perform much better
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Rooting and recovery can be done in minutes that's got to be a good sign
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I'm just waiting on a deodexed ROM for T700. Then I'll start theming.
Hi Guys ! Is somebody already trying to boot Cyanogenmod ? I'm a reverse engineer, have done quite a bit of development work on CM11 for the S4 I9500 and just ordered my Note 4 snapdragon and planning to run and optimize CM12 on our Snapdragon Note 4
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Hi Guys ! Is somebody already trying to boot Cyanogenmod ? I'm a reverse engineer, have done quite a bit of development work on CM11 for the S4 I9500 and just ordered my Note 4 snapdragon and planning to run and optimize CM12 on our Snapdragon Note 4
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this is xda my man , and someone everytime is trying their best for us..... like what u said just gave me hopes.... bang cm12 soon bro
Er. Aditya said:
this is xda my man , and someone everytime is trying their best for us..... like what u said just gave me hopes.... bang cm12 soon bro
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Yes, I'm hoping more developers will switch to this device and will start working on booting and running CM as smooth as possible. I just ordered my note 4 yesterday, I still have to wait 2 weeks to receive my device (I don't live in a snapdragon country), hoping to work together with some other devs but if not, going to give booting CM myself a try and will update and report here for sure !
I'm new to the Note line so I have a question. Does the S-Pen work (just work, non of the fancy features) with custom Roms or do devs need to optimize it?
I would love to see it running Lollipop.
Patience... is the key. It will happen.
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I'm new to the Note line so I have a question. Does the S-Pen work (just work, non of the fancy features) with custom Roms or do devs need to optimize it?
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The spen will work on any rom but samsung specific apps like snote will only work on samsung based roms. On cm based roms there are alternative apps like papyrus and on the note 2 there were specific spen apps made for cm roms so guess the same thing will probably happen on the n4
Wrong forum my man. Please take your thread to the right place. Facepalm
Droideatsappleforlunch said:
Wrong forum my man. Please take your thread to the right place. Facepalm
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"This forum is intended for XDA members to find or discuss development on the Galaxy Note 4, including ROMs, kernels, rooting, mods and much more, specifically for the Qualcomm Snapdragon variant of the Note 4."
Sounds like the right place to me.
Anyway on topic: here's the general porting method: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro and here the samsung code: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=910f
Unfortunately going by what Samsung released previously, we'll need code directly from Qualcomm, did anybody find chipset code for the 805 already ?
And here's the Lollipop Nexus 6 (of course also running snapdragon 805) code:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-lollipop-source-pushed-to-aosp/
Oh and also found this thread, should be helpful to get a start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532873
Anyway, getting my device in 2 weeks, hopefully around that time CM12 will be released too, mabye we should wait for that anyway, but I wanted to start this thread already to function as a knowledge sharing thread regarding getting cyanogenmod running on the Note 4. Going to do some digging in the sources codes already and see what's there and what's missing.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+TonyLayher/posts/ABurAWxbk4V
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https://plus.google.com/u/0/+TonyLayher/posts/ABurAWxbk4V
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Is Tony the official cm maintainer for note series d3vices?
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Droideatsappleforlunch said:
Love it how you edit rule number 15 for your own benefit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263
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Sorry but I really miss your point man. This is development and most importantly, this is Snapdragon: this thread has really not much to do with Exynos (which most likely will never even run CM12, at least not in the next year), so I really don't see in which forum it would be more ontopic than this one. If you disagree, let me know in which forum you feel it should be posted in and why and if it makes sense, I'll ask the mod, but again, I really don't see it.
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https://plus.google.com/u/0/+TonyLayher/posts/ABurAWxbk4V
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Wow, that's really wonderful news, you made my day man, thanks !!! :good: :fingers-crossed: Can't wait to flash it (need to wait 2 weeks to get my hands on the device though, damn, hehe). I've done quite a bit of work on the i9500, Ironing out bugs by reverse engineering stock ROM and my goal is to make CM12 on our Note 4 the best Cyanogenmod experience so far ! Man, really cant wait !
I just got mine yeaterday im super excited. I'm really surprised how steady it feels in hands. It doesn't feel like a Samsung device at all. My babe is already rooted and unlocked just waiting on lollipop
TheUndertaker21 said:
I just got mine yeaterday im super excited. I'm really surprised how steady it feels in hands. It doesn't feel like a Samsung device at all. My babe is already rooted and unlocked just waiting on lollipop
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What I never understoodbis why DPI is so freaking high. Looks incredibly ugly. Set mine to 480.
Narekrocks said:
What I never understoodbis why DPI is so freaking high. Looks incredibly ugly. Set mine to 480.
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Picture was taken as soon i took it out of the box. So i didn't have time to do anything
Narekrocks said:
What I never understoodbis why DPI is so freaking high. Looks incredibly ugly. Set mine to 480.
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440 here [emoji6]
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Pointless thread in developer forum. Can't wait to see this closed. What is become of xda that anyone can post what he likes and where he wants.
Hello guys,
As I couldn't find any topic about this I decided to create one.
Will note 4 exynos version ever get 64 bit enable.
I don't think it will get officially from Samsung. But is it really possible to port from S6?
Is there any dev working on this?
Cheers!
Dont expect it bro, it wont be enabled by Samsung because.. its gonna be a Note 5 feature.
well, I guess porting a future rom like Note 5 or GS6 and a 64bit kernel will do the job, we have amazing devs here, this is all im dreaming off...my 2 cents
I would love to see this happening.
I would like to see somebody porting the S6 Kernel to Note 4, but there are people saying that there are way too much difference from our 5344 to the 7420.
Another way to go would be porting from Tab S 10.5 which also has the 5433, If Samsung ever launch a 64 bit Kernel for that device.
Will this help
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/9/1036
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How to apply this patch?
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duvalbmarley said:
Will this help
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/9/1036
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Could you please explain to a noob what exactly is this patch?
RaphaDL said:
Could you please explain to a noob what exactly is this patch?
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It has to be implemented into a kernel
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Best bet is to get a Galaxy S6 Edge if you want a good phone with 64bit.
I thought we pretty much got over this topic in the Snapdragon vs. Exynos thread, I said many times don't expect Samsung to implement 64bit in the Note 4 Exynos.
POLO_i780 said:
Best bet is to get a Galaxy S6 Edge if you want a good phone with 64bit.
I thought we pretty much got over this topic in the Snapdragon vs. Exynos thread, I said many times don't expect Samsung to implement 64bit in the Note 4 Exynos.
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No doubts Samsung will never implement 64bit in Note 4 officially.
The question that remains is. Is it possible for some dev to do it?
x64 wouldn't even make much of a difference, it's more marketing than actual relevant improvement... But whatever, still an improvement.
The SoC is theoretically capable, so, even if it is unlikely to get it from a S6 port, it isn't impossible.
Samsung porting the device to x64? No. They'll sell the Note 5 as a x64 device.
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No doubts Samsung will never implement 64bit in Note 4 officially.
The question that remains is. Is it possible for some dev to do it?
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Just a question for you. Why do you want your phone 64-bit enabled?
Archiimonde said:
Just a question for you. Why do you want your phone 64-bit enabled?
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HI Archiimonde,
This tread is not to know why I want it enable and the benefits or non benefits of having it.
This tread is to know if it is doable and if there is anyone working on it.
Regards
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No doubts Samsung will never implement 64bit in Note 4 officially.
The question that remains is. Is it possible for some dev to do it?
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Of course it is possible for a dev to do it, but it takes a lot of time and going by the lack of kernel devs developing kernel's for the 910C I'd argue that no one is willing to take on such a project, especially considering it won't bring any major performance improvements. If say there was a nice reward someone might want to spend the time, but as it stands right now, this section is severely lacking in devs.
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Of course it is possible for a dev to do it, but it takes a lot of time and going by the lack of kernel devs developing kernel's for the 910C I'd argue that no one is willing to take on such a project, especially considering it won't bring any major performance improvements. If say there was a nice reward someone might want to spend the time, but as it stands right now, this section is severely lacking in devs.
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well, I will be the first one to donate, maybe in the future we can open a donation thread, I know im not alone on this one, a lot of people wants to see what this phone is capable of, also I guess porting a Note 5 rom will be less trouble than a Gs6, only time will tell, but I have my hopes :fingers-crossed:
hhhmmmm i really like to have this 64bit active on my N910C too but getting CM official is more exciting to have
I strongly feel that people have no clue what the benefit of 64 bit enabled note 4 would be, but at least it gives a reason to be unsatisfied.
v1rtu4l said:
I strongly feel that people have no clue what the benefit of 64 bit enabled note 4 would be, but at least it gives a reason to be unsatisfied.
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It's like when they scream "WHY NOT 4GB RAM???", when they at the same time try to use as little as possible...
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Of course it is possible for a dev to do it, but it takes a lot of time and going by the lack of kernel devs developing kernel's for the 910C I'd argue that no one is willing to take on such a project, especially considering it won't bring any major performance improvements. If say there was a nice reward someone might want to spend the time, but as it stands right now, this section is severely lacking in devs.
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I'm gonna take a look at this when I'm back home later tonight. But I honestly doubt the success of it.. The Exy is already not documented that well and I have only found some parts hinting to 64bit support when developing for it. But I'll give it a try [emoji16]
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Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.
TEWWY said:
Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!
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Development is occurring less for these types of device for many reasons, but mainly locked bootloader's, price, not really a great need for root anymore. Of course there are folks that need root and use it.
I would love to see a stripped down TouchWiz ROM for the US version that looks like AOSP as much as possible. It'll never happen though sadly.
Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada
This doesn't even make sense, lol
Semantics said:
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.
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Yes, only exynos versions. As for the Note 8, currently there are a few roms out there.
slaydog said:
This doesn't even make sense, lol
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"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Reading comprehension is your strong point, I see. "I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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Semantics said:
"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.
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It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.
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That's completely understandable.
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
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You both are douche faces! ?
Just kidding... Those were good reads, lol. ??
bamfsig45 said:
Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada
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They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
swaze said:
They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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Then they are full of **** lol.
Snapdragon s9 has nothing, no root nada and thats been since April.
Each year security get tighter, and they kill whatever workaround was found before. Only going to get harder not easier.
Eirher buy exynos or a HK snapdragon if you want root, dont rely on workarounds these days
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They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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I think they say everytime a Samsung US Snapdragon phone is released, a good Dev disappears lol
I was suprised to see the rom forum was kind of barren compared to when I had my Note 4 and other devices. But that was before I had the phone in hand. Now that I see how easy it is to do most things that used to be much easier with root, it isn't too shocking that it's a little dead over there.
The phone has treble support
you can even get android P on it