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Hi, I bought a moto x recently and I really don't know what is the best option to mod my phone. I have android 4.4.2 and standard moto x from Claro, and I'd like to mainly root. I'm not really interested on unlock BL, but aparently in 4.4.2 it is needed to unlock BL. I have read some guides here but I don't get it. What I shall do ? Thanks guys.
Without an unlocked bootloader, this is your only root option on 4.4.2...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
And its only root. Write protection is still enabled, meaning anything you do is undone when you reboot or power off and on.
So it has a lot of limits. I don't think you can write to the system either.
Not ideal.
Yes, I was wondering on downgrading my phone, what about that ?
Nosoyale said:
Yes, I was wondering on downgrading my phone, what about that ?
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You will BRICK it if you try. Its well documented here. You can not downgrade safely - even with an unlocked bootloader.
Nosoyale said:
Yes, I was wondering on downgrading my phone, what about that ?
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Just.....no.
All the guides I have read for root lead me here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
I would prefer NOT to void my warranty. But is this the only way to get root? I dont need a custom rom, etc. I just want root.
Thanx
I have a Moto X running 4.4.3 stock. Unlocked but not DEV edition
If your device is unlocked, then you should be able to use custom roms and such.
But if you want just basic root, try out TowelPieRoot. I am not sure if it works on 4.4.3, but it is confirmed to work on 4.4.2.
Please search around and read some guides next time, this information was already available from many resources in this forum!
Tried that. Says it successfully rooted but as far as I can tell it is not rooted.
dier325 said:
If your device is unlocked, then you should be able to use custom roms and such.
But if you want just basic root, try out TowelPieRoot. I am not sure if it works on 4.4.3, but it is confirmed to work on 4.4.2.
Please search around and read some guides next time, this information was already available from many resources in this forum!
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cadesdefy said:
Tried that. Says it successfully rooted but as far as I can tell it is not rooted.
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Read through the threads. There are plenty of explanations and people in your position. If you do not have the patience to do so, then the current rooting methods probably won't be for you.
If your device is not a developer edition and you unlocked, I believe that means you already have voided the warranty.
Rooting with an unlocked bootloader doesn't require pie, etc, it's rather basic at this point, installing a custom recovery and installing supersu
Sent from my XT1058
cadesdefy said:
All the guides I have read for root lead me here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
I would prefer NOT to void my warranty. But is this the only way to get root? I dont need a custom rom, etc. I just want root.
Thanx
I have a Moto X running 4.4.3 stock. Unlocked but not DEV edition
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I'm surprised nobody has stated this yet, but.......questions belong in the Q&A section. Please post to the correct sub-forums. See the second "sticky" thread at the top of the General Section.
Also, when you say unlocked, you ARE referring to bootloader-unlock, right? And not SIM-Unlock?
If so, the previous posters are absolutely correct. Your warranty is already toast. See the "One Stop Shop" rooting guide - it will point you in the correct direction.
1- Sorry, I posted it in the wrong forum. I apologise.
2- I was unclear when I said unlocked. I meant SIM unlocked incase it made any difference.
I just want my xposed framework, but I would like to keep my warranty. I read through the forums for an hour and could not find a method for rooting that didn't require me to void my warranty which is why I posted the question. I am a programmer, but not a Android Programmer. I have no interest at this point in custom roms, etc. I just want root.
I appreciate the feedback and again sorry for posting in the wrong forum
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I'm surprised nobody has stated this yet, but.......questions belong in the Q&A section. Please post to the correct sub-forums. See the second "sticky" thread at the top of the General Section.
Also, when you say unlocked, you ARE referring to bootloader-unlock, right? And not SIM-Unlock?
If so, the previous posters are absolutely correct. Your warranty is already toast. See the "One Stop Shop" rooting guide - it will point you in the correct direction.
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TowelPieRoot can be completely removed without a trace. We are pretty sure it doesn't void warranty.
cadesdefy said:
1- Sorry, I posted it in the wrong forum. I apologise.
2- I was unclear when I said unlocked. I meant SIM unlocked incase it made any difference.
I just want my xposed framework, but I would like to keep my warranty. I read through the forums for an hour and could not find a method for rooting that didn't require me to void my warranty which is why I posted the question. I am a programmer, but not a Android Programmer. I have no interest at this point in custom roms, etc. I just want root.
I appreciate the feedback and again sorry for posting in the wrong forum
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I had a feeling you might have meant SIM-Unlock. This is completely unrelated to rooting, unfortunately.
If TowelPieRoot didn't work for you (DOWNLOAD A ROOT-CHECKER to be sure - find one in the play store. It will confirm if you have been rooted or not), sorry, but your ONLY option is to unlock the bootloader. There are mixed reports on whether or not TPR works on 4.4.3. Some variants apparently CAN use it, while others CAN'T.
Keep in mind that unlocking the BL is FAR superior to any of these exploits. You gain permanent root and wp-off.
The important question is which model you have. If you have the XT1053, you CAN unlock through Moto's official website. If not, you might not have any options at all unless you can get unlocked through the "china middleman".
If you have XT1053, your best bet is to go ahead and unlock the BL. Sure it will void your warranty, but I I really don't understand the fear of that. If you (for instance) break your device, warranty possibly won't cover it anyways if they determine it is "abuse" (e.g. you drop it). And aside from that there are very few things that can go wrong. All I can think of is the possibility of the screen going bad, or the speaker quitting working or something like that.....but there are extremely few reports of anyone actually needing to use warranty service.
Additionally, there are many reports of people who unlocked, and Moto honored the warranty anyways. I'm not going to suggest that they WOULD, but others have advised they did it for them.
Do what you want, but realize that if you want root, the ONLY option is to unlock.
Good Luck
If you don't want to void the warranty and have root access, buy a developer edition then sell your phone (or vice versa). That's the only way you'll be able to satisfy those 2 conditions.
I have to use pie root to get exposed working but I can confirm it works on 4.4.2 not sure about 4.4.3. I use the moto x tool kit to get pie root you can find it in the forums it's pretty easy
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Hi everyone
Okay so Im going to ask a couple of noob questions here. I have been doing a lot of searching on and off xda but I still have a few doubts about rooting/flasing/unlocking my moto x.
If these questions have been asked before I apologize.
First off, I know that my motoX is from ATT, so it has a locked bootloader, right?
And also that it is a 16GB version so is definitely not DE.
I came across a source where it said I can still root my X with a locked bootloader and that must enable me to flash custom roms. Is this true? (I am a little hesitant about trusting websites other than xda). Why do we even need to unlock the bootloader then? if flashing custom roms is a go with root.
My phone is currently on 4.2.2. How am i supposed to find out if this is the pre or post camera update?
I would really appreciate your replies here as I am holding back from updating to KitKat (I read bootloader cant be unlocked on 4.4). Thanks a lot!
See this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2826159
And you can not flash roms without a custom recovery. And you can't have a custom recovery without an unlocked bootloader.
Whatever you read on another site sounds plain wrong. So proceed with caution.
You can try the thread in general about the Chinese Middleman and see if you can unlock your bootloader for $45. That's your only hope at the moment.
Good luck!
alimzia said:
Hi everyone
Okay so Im going to ask a couple of noob questions here. I have been doing a lot of searching on and off xda but I still have a few doubts about rooting/flasing/unlocking my moto x.
If these questions have been asked before I apologize.
First off, I know that my motoX is from ATT, so it has a locked bootloader, right?
And also that it is a 16GB version so is definitely not DE.
I came across a source where it said I can still root my X with a locked bootloader and that must enable me to flash custom roms. Is this true? (I am a little hesitant about trusting websites other than xda). Why do we even need to unlock the bootloader then? if flashing custom roms is a go with root.
My phone is currently on 4.2.2. How am i supposed to find out if this is the pre or post camera update?
I would really appreciate your replies here as I am holding back from updating to KitKat (I read bootloader cant be unlocked on 4.4). Thanks a lot!
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There is either a lot of misinformation, or misunderstanding, or both. My guess is a little of both.
What you have read about is using an exploit to root and disable write protection. This is VERY different from actually unlocking the bootloader. These exploits are temporary, and they do not allow you to flash custom roms. They only allow flashing "stock-based, safestrap-compatible" ROMs. While this can be useful, there is no comparison to unlocking the bootloader. Be careful to not confuse the two.
@KJ has pointed you in the right direction. I only wanted to clarify that what you are referring to is "write-protect disable", which again is very different from bootloader unlock. Follow his advice and read up so you can better understand. In the mean-time, don't accept any OTAs until you have decided which option is best for you.
Good Luck :good:
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There is either a lot of misinformation, or misunderstanding, or both. My guess is a little of both.
What you have read about is using an exploit to root and disable write protection. This is VERY different from actually unlocking the bootloader. These exploits are temporary, and they do not allow you to flash custom roms. They only allow flashing "stock-based, safestrap-compatible" ROMs. While this can be useful, there is no comparison to unlocking the bootloader. Be careful to not confuse the two.
@KJ has pointed you in the right direction. I only wanted to clarify that what you are referring to is "write-protect disable", which again is very different from bootloader unlock. Follow his advice and read up so you can better understand. In the mean-time, don't accept any OTAs until you have decided which option is best for you.
Good Luck :good:
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Okay i just need root for using titanium backup. Just one question though before i go on with it. After rooting my device (currently 4.2.2) can i continue to get OTA updates? If so, till what version (4.4 max)?
Again thankyou for your replies. Appreciate it.
alimzia said:
Okay i just need root for using titanium backup. Just one question though before i go on with it. After rooting my device (currently 4.2.2) can i continue to get OTA updates? If so, till what version (4.4 max)?
Again thankyou for your replies. Appreciate it.
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If you are now on 4.2.2, you're one of the lucky ones..... You can still use the slapmymoto method and get full root with write protection disabled!!
See that section in the one stop shop thread.
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But you can't go higher than 4.4 to keep all that.
Hey Sam i know this is Off topic but tell me more about Republic wireless and why you like them im thinking of switching from big red
qweesy said:
Hey Sam i know this is Off topic but tell me more about Republic wireless and why you like them im thinking of switching from big red
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Sent you a PM.
KJ said:
If you are now on 4.2.2, you're one of the lucky ones..... You can still use the slapmymoto method and get full root with write protection disabled!!
See that section in the one stop shop thread.
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But you can't go higher than 4.4 to keep all that.
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Okay, after rooting will i be able to receive OTA for 4.4? If so, will it still be write protection disabled?
alimzia said:
Okay, after rooting will i be able to receive OTA for 4.4? If so, will it still be write protection disabled?
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You would have to read the slapmymoto thread, but I believe you would flash 4.4 with fastboot . And that's it. If you upgrade to 4.4.2 or higher, you will have write protection enabled again.
KJ said:
You would have to read the slapmymoto thread, but I believe you would flash 4.4 with fastboot . And that's it. If you upgrade to 4.4.2 or higher, you will have write protection enabled again.
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Yeah I read that. It is a long method...
I dont know why write protection is so important, i dont know what it does. All I care about is root. If write protection doesn't matter to me just as much, should i rather just receive the OTA to 4.4 right now and THEN root my device? (I just need root privileges for titanium and xposed)
What would you recommend? Is write disabling write protection that important? Thanks again.
Isnt there a way to root directly from 4.4? (Wont slapmymoto work?)
alimzia said:
Yeah I read that. It is a long method...
I dont know why write protection is so important, i dont know what it does. All I care about is root. If write protection doesn't matter to me just as much, should i rather just receive the OTA to 4.4 right now and THEN root my device? (I just need root privileges for titanium and xposed)
What would you recommend? Is write disabling write protection that important? Thanks again.
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Yes, it is that important. Without write protect disabled, you have to re-root after every reboot. Titanium backup won't work fully because all changes are reverted upon reboot. You will have a heck of a time getting xposed to word if you even can without it disabled.
Yes you can update to 4.4 but not higher. If you use safestrap, you can flash stock based Roms all the way up to 4.4.4. But your bootloader and partition table will remain on 4.4 - this allows you to keep root and write protect disabled.
Be very careful. If you update the bootloader or partition table past 4.4 there is no going back and you will lose the ability to disable write protect permanently.
Basically, without write protect disabled, anything you change gets reverted back upon reboot. You also lose root and have to re-root after every reboot... Not very useful...
alimzia said:
Yeah I read that. It is a long method...
I dont know why write protection is so important, i dont know what it does. All I care about is root. If write protection doesn't matter to me just as much, should i rather just receive the OTA to 4.4 right now and THEN root my device? (I just need root privileges for titanium and xposed)
What would you recommend? Is write disabling write protection that important? Thanks again.
Isnt there a way to root directly from 4.4? (Wont slapmymoto work?)
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I'm not a slapmymoto expert, since I never needed it... But I believe you need to start on 4.2.2 with it. Then upgrade. Again... You'd need to read on it.
With write protection disabled you can store to the system then. Definitely needed for Xposed.
Trust me.... There's people with locked bootloaders on 4.4.2 and up that would kill to be able to use slapmymoto. ?
Alright thanks a lot guys. Ive made up my mind, going to go through with it, definitely need xposed!
Oh btw just out of curiosity, does Towel-pie-root work with 4.4?
alimzia said:
Alright thanks a lot guys. Ive made up my mind, going to go through with it, definitely need xposed!
Oh btw just out of curiosity, does Towel-pie-root work with 4.4?
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I believe so.... But people have trouble with Xposed.
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Same thing too.... Even IF you get Xposed to work... All undone on a reboot or power down.
i have the samsung galaxy s4 active sgh-i537, i have looked all over and could not find the answer. what bootloader do i use because i see many but not for my phone, i tried safestrap but not rooted. tried to get rooted and that failed so what am i supposed to do next?
Major-Hardon said:
i have the samsung galaxy s4 active sgh-i537, i have looked all over and could not find the answer. what bootloader do i use because i see many but not for my phone, i tried safestrap but not rooted. tried to get rooted and that failed so what am i supposed to do next?
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Read the sticky.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2892445
Devo7v said:
Read the sticky.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2892445
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that would suggest i want to install a stock like rom, i want to install kitkat 4.4.4 custom rom.
Major-Hardon said:
that would suggest i want to install a stock like rom, i want to install kitkat 4.4.4 custom rom.
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You can't do that with the i537, it has a locked bootloader.
i think i got my bootloader unloacked, when i start my phone up it shows a unlocked lock with the word custom under it or does everyone have that?
Major-Hardon said:
i think i got my bootloader unloacked, when i start my phone up it shows a unlocked lock with the word custom under it or does everyone have that?
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That typically happens when you root the phone. Trust me, if you were ever able to unlock your bootloader you would be entitled to thousands of dollars.
Devo7v said:
That typically happens when you root the phone. Trust me, if you were ever able to unlock your bootloader you would be entitled to thousands of dollars.
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truly i am not worried about the money but more into wanting a custom rom to get away from this bloated os.
Major-Hardon said:
truly i am not worried about the money but more into wanting a custom rom to get away from this bloated os.
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The only thing you can do is use SafeStrap which will allow you to boot custom TouchWiz-based ROMs. It is impossible to install any ROM that requires a custom kernel (CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, AOSP, etc.) on the i537.
I have the AT&T Note 3 N900A device running on lollipop (OTA). This device has never been rooted. I'm looking to root this but all the tutorials are for devices running 4.x.x and none for lollipop. Has the N900A on lollipop not been rooted yet?
shoonye1 said:
I have the AT&T Note 3 N900A device running on lollipop (OTA). This device has never been rooted. I'm looking to root this but all the tutorials are for devices running 4.x.x and none for lollipop. Has the N900A on lollipop not been rooted yet?
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Read post #4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/help/att-note-3-lollipop-t3100657 Once you're done with that this is Rooted Lollipop http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59666958&postcount=2
SIM unlock
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Read post #4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/help/att-note-3-lollipop-t3100657 Once you're done with that this is Rooted Lollipop http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59666958&postcount=2
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Perfect, thank you. I realize now I will have to downgrade to be able to root.
Is there a way to unlock the SIM on the rooted lollipop. My primary reason for rooting was so I could unlock the device to use internationally. I'm now reading that the regionlock away and other unlock mechanisms will not work for the newer firmwares.
shoonye1 said:
Perfect, thank you. I realize now I will have to downgrade to be able to root.
Is there a way to unlock the SIM on the rooted lollipop. My primary reason for rooting was so I could unlock the device to use internationally. I'm now reading that the regionlock away and other unlock mechanisms will not work for the newer firmwares.
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I never tried to sims unlock a phone, so I couldn't tell you.
shoonye1 said:
Perfect, thank you. I realize now I will have to downgrade to be able to root.
Is there a way to unlock the SIM on the rooted lollipop. My primary reason for rooting was so I could unlock the device to use internationally. I'm now reading that the regionlock away and other unlock mechanisms will not work for the newer firmwares.
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Just call At&t and tell them that you are traveling abroad and will be using your phone with a different SIM, and they'll unlock it for you..