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Has the Milestone bootloader been unlocked?

I have been reading soem stuff in the forums and am getting a little confussed, it seems that you can gain root on the milestone etc. But does that also mean the bootloader been unlocked? can i installed custom roms etc?
I really want this phone because of the full keyboard, but as im in the UK i cant get the droid. But if i cant load custom roms i might just have to get something else

same problem, i live in italy

zacthespack said:
it seems that you can gain root on the milestone etc. But does that also mean the bootloader been unlocked? can i installed custom roms etc?
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No, that's not the same. You still can't flash custom ROMs with the locked bootloader. Sadly.

wallla said:
No, that's not the same. You still can't flash custom ROMs with the locked bootloader. Sadly.
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between that and the piss poor GPS(I've done the config file changes and it still sucks donkey b...s) I'm looking to trade up to a N1. It'll cost me some money and I'll loose the hard keyboard but I hate waiting for Motorola to update the OS and get very angry trying to do foursquare check-ins. It shouldn't take 1-4 minutes to get a F'ing GPS lock.

Questions From a Would be Owner

Hello guys,
Just a few questions so I know what I am getting into
1) The phone can be rooted. However, if i want to run on a custom ROM or use mods such as the music mod, I would have to unlock the bootloader, yes?
2) Once the bootloader is unlocked, I would lose the 'Bravia Engine' feature of the phone. What else will I lose? For those who have lost it, is the trade off, of being able to run Custom ROMs and mods while losing the 'Bravia Engine' feature worth it?
3) If I have to send the phone for warranty, I could just re-lock the bootloader and send it back for warranty. Is there a chance somehow that they'll reject the phone if they detected that the phone's bootloader was tempered with?

arvin2212 said:
Hello guys,
Just a few questions so I know what I am getting into
1) The phone can be rooted. However, if i want to run on a custom ROM or use mods such as the music mod, I would have to unlock the bootloader, yes?
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no
arvin2212 said:
Hello guys,
Just a few questions so I know what I am getting into
2) Once the bootloader is unlocked, I would lose the 'Bravia Engine' feature of the phone. What else will I lose? For those who have lost it, is the trade off, of being able to run Custom ROMs and mods while losing the 'Bravia Engine' feature worth it?
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No clue since mine isn't/can't be unlocked. The only reason for me to unlock the BL (Even though it can't be done) would be, to flash a custom kernel, beside that I don't see any other reasons why I should unlock it.
arvin2212 said:
Hello guys,
Just a few questions so I know what I am getting into
3) If I have to send the phone for warranty, I could just re-lock the bootloader and send it back for warranty. Is there a chance somehow that they'll reject the phone if they detected that the phone's bootloader was tempered with?
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Once it's unlocked there is no way back.
So if you want to root your phone, use custom roms (without custom kernels) you don't need to unlock the bootloader.

Dsteppa said:
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No clue since mine isn't/can't be unlocked. The only reason for me to unlock the BL (Even though it can't be done) would be, to flash a custom kernel, beside that I don't see any other reasons why I should unlock it.
Once it's unlocked there is no way back.
So if you want to root your phone, use custom roms (without custom kernels) you don't need to unlock the bootloader.
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Thank you very much for the reply.
I assumed as such from reading some posts initially, but then I went to the ROM section (If i am not mistaken) and there is a post on how to unlock the bootloader and then there is the Why section where it says that you could then use custom ROMs and mods which then confused me.
If i can use custom roms and mods without unlocking the bootloader, then I'll definitely be getting this phone.

I'll take advantage of this thread to ask one simple question: once we rooted the XZ and flash the Mods we find useful, we no longer get updates from the official Sony firmware in the future, right?

labroste said:
I'll take advantage of this thread to ask one simple question: once we rooted the XZ and flash the Mods we find useful, we no longer get updates from the official Sony firmware in the future, right?
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First backup your firmware with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188129
You can go back at any time to your original firmware and you can have the updates via pcc or sus.
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How to Root?

ok so i know there are issues rooting this phone lol. i am on 4.3. is there any way to root it. i want to flash vipers rom.

pitbullmommy45245 said:
ok so i know there are issues rooting this phone lol. i am on 4.3. is there any way to root it. i want to flash vipers rom.
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Install custom recovery TWRP
flash superSU

mb_guy said:
Install custom recovery TWRP
flash superSU
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if i don't have root how can i flash a custom recoverys and flash super user lol. i have heard of firewater but i just need help. im a noob at the htc one lol. i'm not a noob to flashing though.

pitbullmommy45245 said:
if i don't have root how can i flash a custom recoverys and flash super user lol. i have heard of firewater but i just need help. im a noob at the htc one lol. i'm not a noob to flashing though.
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first you will have to bootloader unlock your One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuIq0gmYpFA
Then you will have to root:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE6F-4KjR9I
Then you can flash your ROM

pitbullmommy45245 said:
if i don't have root how can i flash a custom recoverys and flash super user lol. i have heard of firewater but i just need help. im a noob at the htc one lol. i'm not a noob to flashing though.
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Yes you do need to unlock the bootloader, before you can flash a custom recovery. Rooting comes later. The rom is either rooted or not, you do not need one rom to be rooted to flash another.

raghav kapur said:
first you will have to bootloader unlock your One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuIq0gmYpFA
Then you will have to root:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE6F-4KjR9I
Then you can flash your ROM
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ok and i just got this phone off of craigslist and i don't have the unlock code. when i do the factory reset it will make the phone locked to att again. is there a free method for the htc one to sim unlock it. i know for the verizon one its already unlocked. and i know theres easy methods for the galaxy phones (s3, s4, note 2).

pitbullmommy45245 said:
ok and i just got this phone off of craigslist and i don't have the unlock code. when i do the factory reset it will make the phone locked to att again. is there a free method for the htc one to sim unlock it. i know for the verizon one its already unlocked. and i know theres easy methods for the galaxy phones (s3, s4, note 2).
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This is NOT the same as unlocking the bootloader. What is your end goal here?

mb_guy said:
This is NOT the same as unlocking the bootloader. What is your end goal here?
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i know lol. i'm not a noob. i just wonder if i'll lose my root. my end goal is to have the phone rooted with viper and have a unlocked sim.

pitbullmommy45245 said:
i know lol. i'm not a noob. i just wonder if i'll lose my root. my end goal is to have the phone rooted with viper and have a unlocked sim.
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Most custom roms are already rooted when you install, You will not loose the carrier unlock flashing roms.
I also notice you are on Sprint, be very carefull to use the right custom recovery and a compatible rom with that device.

mb_guy said:
Most custom roms are already rooted when you install, You will not loose the carrier unlock flashing roms.
I also notice you are on Sprint, be very carefull to use the right custom recovery and a compatible rom with that device.
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i'm not on sprint. i'm on cincinnati bell. i'm using the att version. i think i might hold off on flashing now i'm scared i'll lose my unlock lol. thanks though.

Downgraded, rooted, now want to install.... quick question.

Hi, thanks for reading,
Ok so my 6903 z1, i've downgraded it to .534, rooted it, installed dualrecovery and am sitting here wondering where to go next.
I wouldn't mind unlocking the bootloader so that I could install other kernels such as pimped kernel. But reading the dualrecovery thread it seems that it is only if you are using the original kernel. So my main question is, what should i do next?
use recovery to flash a zip of a new rom then unlock bootloader then flash a supported recovery?
or should i unlock bootloader now and then new rom etc? (was concerned about the camera issue unlocking the bootloader on <4.3 roms.... will it be "fixed" if i was running on a newer "flashed via recovery" ROM?)
any help is appreciated as I don't want to bugger up the phone like i somehow managed to last time i tried all this (had the IMEI disappearing issue)

If you want to unlock the boot, there is was no need to downgrade to root
Just backup your TA, unlock the boot, flash a custom kernel of your choice then flash away

oh ok. well i've done it now. although I've just checked my service menu
First, you should confirm that it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your phone by checking the service menu. In your phone, open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
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and it says bootloader unlock allowed: No
So i'm guessing I randomly cannot unlock it anyway? (any reason why if that is the case?)

thefunkygibbon said:
oh ok. well i've done it now. although I've just checked my service menu
and it says bootloader unlock allowed: No
So i'm guessing I randomly cannot unlock it anyway? (any reason why if that is the case?)
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If that it saying then no way around to unlock your bootloader. BTW, stock kernel isn't that bad and with root you will be able to customize your room and get some tweeks.

eclyptos said:
If that it saying then no way around to unlock your bootloader. BTW, stock kernel isn't that bad and with root you will be able to customize your room and get some tweeks.
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so if i cannot unlock bootloader, does that mean i wont be able to use custom roms like Paranoid android etc which run off of CM and presumably a CM kernel?

and is it worth trying to unlock the bootloader in flashtool anyway just to see?
What options/next steps do i have then if i cant flash a custom rom due to not being able to use a different kernel?
Guess i can flash a modified stock rom and thats about it?

thefunkygibbon said:
so if i cannot unlock bootloader, does that mean i wont be able to use custom roms like Paranoid android etc which run off of CM and presumably a CM kernel?
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Unfortunately No, anything based on Custom Kernels you cannot install. Everything based on Stock Kernel you can Install, even Custom Roms.

oh bloody hell. ok so i'm now stuck in a sony logo boot loop after installing romaur v8 and installing the kernel (561) which it told me to.
any ideas what to do? guessing i'm going to have to flash the old 4.2.2 rom from scratch again

ok so now i'm back to .534 [nut] and rooted. any tips on where to go next so that i dont get stuck in another bootloop???

thefunkygibbon said:
ok so now i'm back to .534 [nut] and rooted. any tips on where to go next so that i dont get stuck in another bootloop???
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Just any Rom based on Stock Kernel.

eclyptos said:
Just any Rom based on Stock Kernel.
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I thought the romaur rom Was based on stock. Ho hum. Installed the pure stock one and it was OK thanks.

In Android developement thread all roms are based on stock - in original Android developement they are based on pure android.
Bootlooping is mostly caused when flashing wrong bootbundle/kernel.
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@punkt, nice your avatar, that is what I call HD..lol..

Nexus 6 Cyanogenmod carrier ROM ?

I looked on Cyanogenmod's website below:
https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=shamu
and it just has 1 ROM for Nexus 6. I have Nexus 6 for Sprint. Is there only 1 version of the ROM that works for all carriers ?
My old Galaxy S4 has many different builds for Sprint, ATT, Verizon, etc.... wasn't sure if Nexus has the same set up.

Yes, applies to all N6 variants.

thats because every sgs4 has a different setup for different carriers. we only have one nexus 6, and its the same for every carrier.

simms22 said:
thats because every sgs4 has a different setup for different carriers. we only have one nexus 6, and its the same for every carrier.
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I didn't have a locked bootloader with Sprint Galaxy S4. If I were to restore the Nexus 6 back to stock to do an OTA update to update everything, then re-root and put a new custom ROM does the bootloader need to be re-locked, or can the factory .img be suffice to do an OTA ?
I'm still trying to learn how to do this as it is much different than the Samsung GS4. I saw there is a Nexus Toolkit by wug fresh. Is there any benefit to doing these processes by adb vs just using this progra which seems easier ?

mikeprius said:
I didn't have a locked bootloader with Sprint Galaxy S4. If I were to restore the Nexus 6 back to stock to do an OTA update to update everything, then re-root and put a new custom ROM does the bootloader need to be re-locked, or can the factory .img be suffice to do an OTA ?
I'm still trying to learn how to do this as it is much different than the Samsung GS4. I saw there is a Nexus Toolkit by wug fresh. Is there any benefit to doing these processes by adb vs just using this progra which seems easier ?
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you dont use adb for it, you use fastboot. and doung it right vs a toolkit.. toolkits dont teach you anything, and can mess things up.

simms22 said:
you dont use adb for it, you use fastboot. and doung it right vs a toolkit.. toolkits dont teach you anything, and can mess things up.
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Does the bootloader need to be locked to do OTAs or does the stock ROM with leaving the bootloader unlock suffice for an OTA ?

mikeprius said:
Does the bootloader need to be locked to do OTAs or does the stock ROM with leaving the bootloader unlock suffice for an OTA ?
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bootloader can be locked or unlocked, it doesnt matter. but i recommend that you keep it unlocked forever, as it can save your phone in certain situations. and having it locked can be the end of your device, in the same situations.

simms22 said:
bootloader can be locked or unlocked, it doesnt matter. but i recommend that you keep it unlocked forever, as it can save your phone in certain situations. and having it locked can be the end of your device, in the same situations.
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Ok. That's what I was planning on doing once it becomes unlocked. I was going to have it set like my previous GS4 and just toggle custom ROMs from there. When you mention having it locked, are you referring to when people have re-locked the bootloader then had an error flashing the stock custom ROM thus bricking the phone ? That's what worries me. Looks like the security is more stringent on the new Nexus vs. older versions.

mikeprius said:
Ok. That's what I was planning on doing once it becomes unlocked. I was going to have it set like my previous GS4 and just toggle custom ROMs from there. When you mention having it locked, are you referring to when people have re-locked the bootloader then had an error flashing the stock custom ROM thus bricking the phone ? That's what worries me. Looks like the security is more stringent on the new Nexus vs. older versions.
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i was actually refering to it because of the unlock setting that has to be ticked to unlock. some stock users got caught in a bootloop, then cant boot up to tick the setting, to fix their bootloop. since it cant get unlocked, their phones are a "brick".

simms22 said:
i was actually refering to it because of the unlock setting that has to be ticked to unlock. some stock users got caught in a bootloop, then cant boot up to tick the setting, to fix their bootloop. since it cant get unlocked, their phones are a "brick".
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Is this what happened to this person below ?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/help-nexus-6-brick-t3227126
Since the stock rom did not have developer options "checked" then the bootloader can't be unlocked ? How can you tick the OEM unlock if it is in a bootloop ?

mikeprius said:
Is this what happened to this person below ?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/help-nexus-6-brick-t3227126
Since the stock rom did not have developer options "checked" then the bootloader can't be unlocked ? How can you tick the OEM unlock if it is in a bootloop ?
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you cant, thats why i said that you should keep it unlocked.

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you cant, thats why i said that you should keep it unlocked.
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Ok that makes sense. What is the purpose of having the bootloader come locked in a stock phone then ? What does it actually do ? Prevents root ? I probably took it for granted mine was always unlocked before so all I had to do was worry about flashing the proper carrier ROM

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Ok that makes sense. What is the purpose of having the bootloader come locked in a stock phone then ? What does it actually do ? Prevents root ? I probably took it for granted mine was always unlocked before so all I had to do was worry about flashing the proper carrier ROM
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Security.

Security in that if stolen your phone cannot be made to work for someone else...
Someone can (and likely will [emoji14]) correct me if I am wrong... But does little to secure your data...ESPECIALLY if you stay encrypted.

scryan said:
Security in that if stolen your phone cannot be made to work for someone else...
Someone can (and likely will [emoji14]) correct me if I am wrong... But does little to secure your data...ESPECIALLY if you stay encrypted.
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It does nothing to secure data from remote access, but it will protect data (if set with a password) from physical access, providing they do not know the password. The bootloader being unlocked, with no password on encryption would allow them to flash a custom recovery and pull the data off. This will be decrypted on the fly. So it works in conjunction with Encryption. To secure data from physical access, you need both.
IF your bootloader is unlocked and you have no password, you may aswell not be encrypted