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Words With Friends in the Market...

For those that don't frequent the main android apps page... Words With Friends is available in the Market. A little buggy for some. Only problem I see is no notification sound...
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My wife loves that game on the iPhone...hope is compatible so that I can play her again. Thanks for heads up...

Yeah, same here, thanks
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Words with friends is full of bugs wait a bit or give it a download and report your bugs to them. But I've already reported and uninstalled won't work on my phone
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Hydro360 said:
Words with friends is full of bugs wait a bit or give it a download and report your bugs to them. But I've already reported and uninstalled won't work on my phone
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I take that back just changed my modem game is perfect now
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Looks very beta. I get alerts when it isn't my turn, there is no way to turn down game volume, and there's a freaking ad after every turn. I'll wait until there's a paid version and the bugs are worked out.

There was no game volume control in the iphone version, either. I don't know why they don't add that.

There is a volume control look on the side of your phone... no the other side those two little up down key thingys. Press the down one... no the bottom one. Yes that one. There you have achieved volume control. Don't worry its the same setup the iphone had so your not in the stone age.
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At this point I still like Wordfeud a lot better. No wasted space for a stupid title bar when viewing a board, very slow/laggy, ads everywhere, and I've come to like the random board in Wordfeud that makes the game really interesting.

Hydro360 said:
I take that back just changed my modem game is perfect now
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what modem did you switch to?

Banditlol said:
what modem did you switch to?
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TLJL3 but im back to having errors again it worked for a day
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tysj said:
At this point I still like Wordfeud a lot better. No wasted space for a stupid title bar when viewing a board, very slow/laggy, ads everywhere, and I've come to like the random board in Wordfeud that makes the game really interesting.
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+1 wordfeud is superior
for me its unfortunate because the friends and family i want to play against all have iphone and words with friends...so hopefully we see improvement.
anyone else having problems with it seeing your contacts? i had started a sep. thread before seeing this
but the issue i am seeing is that despite having tons of contacts on my phone the only contact it sees is my own gmail account when i select to add someone from contact list? any ideas?

Little to flashy, which makes it smaller screen size. Looks like an update just came out to address a bunch of the issues you guys were talking about.
I prefer wordfeud but like others here, most of my friends/family have iphones/ipads, so this is fantastic so I can play against them.

Yes. You are right about the "key thingys," but an in-app volume control or mute would be more useful. I personally think the shuffle sounds are distracting but don't want to turn down other media that I might be playing to avoid hearing them.
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There is a volume control look on the side of your phone... no the other side those two little up down key thingys. Press the down one... no the bottom one. Yes that one. There you have achieved volume control. Don't worry its the same setup the iphone had so your not in the stone age.
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issues with words
in the past couple weeks, i've had the following page pop up as soon as i open up words with friends. i have to close and reopen it 10 times to get the screen to go away and let me actually open up a game. has anyone else seen this before, and does anyone know a work around beside just closing and reopening?

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in the past couple weeks, i've had the following page pop up as soon as i open up words with friends. i have to close and reopen it 10 times to get the screen to go away and let me actually open up a game. has anyone else seen this before, and does anyone know a work around beside just closing and reopening?
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Try installing it and opening wordfeud. 100% fix, you'll never see the screen again as long as you don't reinstall wordfeud.
XD
Herp derp Captivate XDA app.

KPoon said:
in the past couple weeks, i've had the following page pop up as soon as i open up words with friends. i have to close and reopen it 10 times to get the screen to go away and let me actually open up a game. has anyone else seen this before, and does anyone know a work around beside just closing and reopening?
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If you are running a custom ROM it could be the host file is blocking the IP addresses of the ads that Words with Friends uses. I was having this issue and ended up going into the host file to edit out a few of the IPs that are used for WWF ads.
Here is an XDA thread to help with the IPs. You will have to do this each time you flash a ROM, but it works. Or you can save your edited host file and copy it over the new one after you flash.

To solve that URL popup, download SGS Tools, go to Fixes, and Update HOSTS File. Worked for me.

After the last update, Words With Friends has been working fine for me. Even though I am enjoying Words With Friends is it worth downloading Wordfeud?

syoungblood95 said:
To solve that URL popup, download SGS Tools, go to Fixes, and Update HOSTS File. Worked for me.
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tried to use the SGS tool for this, didn't solve the issue. I'll go in and manually edit the host files I suppose...
edit: i went back and cleared the data after the SGS tools, it works fine now...if only all my games didn't disappear. hopefully when my opponents play their moves the game will come back.

[Q] How to let the gear stay on current app?

I've been playing with my Gear for a while. The biggest problem to me is, When I go for a run using runtastic or other app, when the screen times out and turns off, and I ust motion sensor to turn it back on, it goes to the clock but not the app I'm using. There seems no way to keep the app on the front after screen off? Please help as it's really annoying and I can't believe Samsung fail to design this.
Appreciate it.

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I've been playing with my Gear for a while. The biggest problem to me is, When I go for a run using runtastic or other app, when the screen times out and turns off, and I ust motion sensor to turn it back on, it goes to the clock but not the app I'm using. There seems no way to keep the app on the front after screen off? Please help as it's really annoying and I can't believe Samsung fail to design this.
Appreciate it.
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I have the same problem

jmorton10 said:
I have the same problem
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Same here... I'm really hoping Samsung just rushed the watch, and this isn't what they would consider a 100% finished product. Hopefully they're writing updates as we speak to fix a few of the issues. I can do more on my old original Sony SmartWatch than I can on a new more expensive device. Only thing the Gear does better is you can make calls on it.

Quick-ish workaround is to tap and hold 2 fingers on the screen to bring up the recent apps list.

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Quick-ish workaround is to tap and hold 2 fingers on the screen to bring up the recent apps list.
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Nice, that does make life a little easier. I just bought mine yesterday so I haven't read everything about the watch. Thanks for the tip!

wm2001wm2001 said:
I've been playing with my Gear for a while. The biggest problem to me is, When I go for a run using runtastic or other app, when the screen times out and turns off, and I ust motion sensor to turn it back on, it goes to the clock but not the app I'm using. There seems no way to keep the app on the front after screen off? Please help as it's really annoying and I can't believe Samsung fail to design this.
Appreciate it.
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Overall I love the device, but it's definitely rough around the edges. To me this issue one of the more disappointing things about the watch so far. If I am using Media Controller to listen to music, it's really annoying not to have it there when I want to go back to use it, and that goes for just about any other app I'd like to use. For Samsung all it really would have taken was a simple check box somewhere that says something like "default to watch face upon wake," and if that was unchecked, whatever you were doing last would just stay there on the watch the next time you looked at it.
Really the point of having a watch like this is to make it easy for you to do whatever you want to do. My guess is that most people who buy a $300 accessory to their phone like this are doing it hoping to smoothly interact with good apps. So every time you start to want to enjoy an app, you are consistently reminded that this watch wants to be a watch more than it wants to help you do whatever you're doing with it. In my mind, constantly defaulting back to the watchface everytime it goes to sleep and wakes up is a huge bug, not the feature Samsung probably thought it would be.
Anyway, I've used the recent apps two fingers shortcut a fair amount, but I have found it was just best to switch to the watch face that has the shortcuts on it. (In the Galaxy gear manager clock choice menu, it's called "Shortcut Clock," right above the Watchstyler)
Ideally I would rather use a custom watch face without the shortcuts. But for now, choosing 3 shortcuts for my most commonly used apps at least makes it easier to get back to what I was doing, and it's one less step then the two finger recent app workaround.
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This is possible when using GM Gesture, create a gesture for a "home" action and replace the hardware key bind to a power only.
The hardware key serves two purposes, a home button & power button. I simply have removed the home button functionality and made a gesture for it.
I leave applications up all the time, especially timer functions.

AFAngryWarrior said:
Same here... I'm really hoping Samsung just rushed the watch, and this isn't what they would consider a 100% finished product. Hopefully they're writing updates as we speak to fix a few of the issues. I can do more on my old original Sony SmartWatch than I can on a new more expensive device. Only thing the Gear does better is you can make calls on it.
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What phone are you using
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hhadrian said:
What phone are you using
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The Galaxy Note 3. I upgraded from the Note 2, and bought the watch at the same time. Yesterday was my last day to return the watch and I was very close to returning it, but decided to hope for updates soon. I loved the Note 2, and now the Note 3. It shows me Samsung can build a great mobile product, so I hope the watch becomes more useful in the future.

Jank McLag said:
I have found it was just best to switch to the watch face that has the shortcuts on it. (In the Galaxy gear manager clock choice menu, it's called "Shortcut Clock," right above the Watchstyler)
Ideally I would rather use a custom watch face without the shortcuts. But for now, choosing 3 shortcuts for my most commonly used apps at least makes it easier to get back to what I was doing, and it's one less step then the two finger recent app workaround.
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That's actually a good idea that I hadn't thought of, thanks for posting that.
I will swap to that shortcut face before I go out jogging and then back to the weather clock face when I'm done.

hhadrian said:
What phone are you using
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I suppose it just shows how different we all are I think it is awesome as it is and future development is the icing on the cake.
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I love my note 3 it is easily the best phone I have had but if I had to give up one or the other I would keep the Gear ahead of the note 3
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[Q] AT&T Tech support just offered to remote access my device,

Did anyone else know about this option? How do we disable such a thing? Seems pretty invasive.

galaxy s4 nutjob said:
Did anyone else know about this option? How do we disable such a thing? Seems pretty invasive.
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I had it done on my M8. They have to send you a link to the app, and you have to install it, they can't just do it without your permission.
The app will also block any access to keyboard (when they used it, I had to type everything and it specifically states that all access to the screen is currently blocked when typing anything), it basically just lets them use the device a bit, and check some settings to make sure everything is proper.
Just uninstall the app after, and done.

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I had it done on my M8. They have to send you a link to the app, and you have to install it, they can't just do it without your permission.
The app will also block any access to keyboard (when they used it, I had to type everything and it specifically states that all access to the screen is currently blocked when typing anything), it basically just lets them use the device a bit, and check some settings to make sure everything is proper.
Just uninstall the app after, and done.
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Cool thanks for the info was pretty shocked to hear That

galaxy s4 nutjob said:
Cool thanks for the info was pretty shocked to hear That
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Yup. That'd be a massive privacy breach that would open them to quite a few lawsuits if they had it setup that they could access your device and personal data at ANYTIME.

She offered to move my pics and files for a warranty. Swap

galaxy s4 nutjob said:
She offered to move my pics and files for a warranty. Swap
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Did she offer to do it to the new device, or to the external SD?
If it was new device, I don't see how they would do that unless they were going to use ATT Locker (which I hate). If to external, then it's just a setting in the phone that'll move everything to the external.
Still, she would have to ask for your permission, which she did. I wouldn't worry about it, they can't get that data anyway.

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Did she offer to do it to the new device, or to the external SD?
If it was new device, I don't see how they would do that unless they were going to use ATT Locker (which I hate). If to external, then it's just a setting in the phone that'll move everything to the external.
Still, she would have to ask for your permission, which she did. I wouldn't worry about it, they can't get that data anyway.
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Ok that's that ?

galaxy s4 nutjob said:
Ok that's that ?
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Yup. :]
It is convinent though, when they need to help someone who knows nothing about phones, that's for sure.

Longcat14 said:
Yup. :]
It is convinent though, when they need to help someone who knows nothing about phones, that's for sure.
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Ya I could see my mom using it

galaxy s4 nutjob said:
Did anyone else know about this option? How do we disable such a thing? Seems pretty invasive.
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I called att once when I had my s4. However I had that phone so locked down even they couldn't get a connection established. When they would try to connect they would get a rejection message and my phone would force close the app. They use this to trouble shoot our phones when we call support. They ask you to accept a text link which grants them control of your phone. What you see they see. I do not like this because they can see notifications like text messages in the status bar. You will also be asked to install an apk. I don't like this idea because I have private information on my phone. But someone who is not very literate with phones may need this type of support to fix their phone malfunctions.
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They can also tell if the phone is rooted or not.
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Please help - really wanna change my phone's OS ;(

I bought an HTC Desire 510 few months ago cause my Xperia ARC died (was the best phone I ever had).
Now I am very disappointed with the HTC 510, mainly cause of it's awful operating system bundled by google ALL OVER the place
The user interface is a one big disaster, so much annoying and unnecessary stuff... besides the annoying bloatware (parental control app? srsly?)
I really wanna root this phone and change it's OS to those similar of gingerbreed, cyanogen etc but I don't know how to do this with my current phone
and don't even know what custom operating systems are available for the model I have.
What annoys me about the user interface:
*Often lowers the earphone music volume without my permission then gives me this annoying warning that making it higher will damage my hearing - srsly?
*Screen tends to lower it's lighting and back again by itself while I use the phone
*A button at the bottom of the menu that looks like a "home logo" will open somekind of useless google page each time I drag that button up by mistake.
*Terrible and irremovable Gallery app, not to mention it displays images in uncomfortable way, it also features a slideshow which often plays automatically without me asking it to each time I enter a photo album.
*Poorly made irremovable alarm clock app
*Other forced google apps installed on my phone which i don't use and can't just get rid of
*Bad just bad option of organizing apps, well for me atleast, back on my Xperia ARC I used to organize my apps by "commonly used apps" feature, went great, here it's just wacky, it doesn't do it automatically after you set it to organize the following way. So I find myself surfing through all the useless apps to find the app I need at the app menu.
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
horrific google product
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Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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VigiDroid said:
Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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Beggars can't be choosers. Of course this person is trying to be both.

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I bought an HTC Desire 510
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!

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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
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doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you.
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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All I can say (and I never said it was easy) is for you to subscribe to all of the HTC 510 Forums and start reading thru the threads. In your case, the most helpful one being this one..."Help & Troubleshooting" if you can not find answers to your particular questions then I would assume that means we just aren't there yet. This is a pretty new device after all. I wouldnt know about themes being I am on custom ROM and that is not an option. You should maybe go for the Unlock and root your phone method. Try out some of the ROMs available. I believe that will alleviate many of your issues since the stock ROM that came with these units have multiple issues. Many of them are the same ones you are experiencing. I wish you well and Read, Read, Read.
Good Luck

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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now? I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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You should definitely read through the forums if you haven't so far. I have read/skimmed every thread here about our phone and I almost have no questions or concerns except for some ideas for a couple of issues that haven't been brought up yet or just not yet done.
I only use Sense Home or Dodol Launcher and they both don't have the option to sort by last used, check out Nova, Apex, or some other launcher.
As far as the update is concerned, you can follow this post by LarryBoyG, if you plan to stay on stock. I'm sure a custom ROM will be built that includes the update, unless everyone just wants to wait for Lollipop.

LG Please know we hate this. Let us turn this annoying feature off

This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.

Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.

I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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painedglass said:
Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me

lobo4806 said:
locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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TWRP now too.. ROMS will be flowing soon.

Meh, I left the steaming pile of hardware failures that is a Nexus 6 for the G4. Volume rockers stopped working on the first one, new phone had screen issues, ya, the N6 isn't the greatest phone ever.

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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.

painedglass said:
It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Angry much?

painedglass said:
It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Because clicking a check box to unlock the bootloader is so hard. Root takes time on all modern devices.

Hahaha... Now root being available, I've installed debloated ROM and 3000mah battery serves me really well. Not to mention boost in speed as well. On stock ROM, I was missing my nexus 5 so much.
I hope you stuck around for a little longer. Feels like beasty phone just got injected with the steroid.
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Agreed....I was fed up with this phone.....root came and glory glory amen it's a better phone. Even with just a simple debloated ROM....can't wait till they really tweak the stock ROM like crazy. I probably won't go aosp....because of the camera app...whole reason I bought the phone...it deletes the side car RAW file in the default gallery aosp can't do that...neither can manual camera app or Fv5
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The thermal throttling and stuff needs some crazy tweaking...and a better kernel...my apps have to re draw too much...memory leak somewhere

Kingaries79 said:
This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
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I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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mawells787 said:
I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work

ExTREmE99 said:
this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
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I checked and I still get the dialog box, make sure the option is checked in the call settings. I'm not sure what you mean about the notification bar, but I can drag down and click on the call, which brings me back to the call.
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mawells787 said:
I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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Thanks for this

Seems like a really silly reason to get rid of an otherwise awesome phone...

What's funny is that the current root methods as dangerous as they are. Are no more dangerous then when I had my Evo4g, and that team didn't have something like "OEM Unlock" to make it easier. No risk, no reward.

Not to mention that you can drag that icon anywhere on the screen so i dont see how it can be so intrucive during other app usage. Also why dont you just talk on the phone, your on a call, pay attention and stop playing with other apps, real easy
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Apex said:
I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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