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http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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frankgreimes said:
Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
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If you are on Verizon or AT&T you can't do squat with it. Perhaps the GS4 is the way to go or something else. I guess March 25th is worth waiting for.
With Knox pre-installed, it won't be possible to customize it...
This is the END of Samsung for me
qipengart said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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Check again the screenshot, it only have 5.28GB occupied by the OS, the rest is files the users put in there.
So you'll have 10.72GB available space.
frankgreimes said:
Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
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Couldn't care less about bloat if the batterylife is good. Already suffered badly with Nexus. Pathetic batterylife (putting it mildy). What's the use of less-bloat if the batterylife is so bad?
BTW, I consider G+ integration as the biggest bloat in Android.
This is no different from what's been done before by Samsung and other companies with their devices. Samsung at least gives external storage options still.
System uses 5.28GB.
So you'll have 10+ for the user.
As you can see from the screenshot it is loaded with trailers and demos.
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Couldn't care less about bloat if the batterylife is good. Already suffered badly with Nexus. Pathetic batterylife (putting it mildy). What's the use of less-bloat if the batterylife is so bad?
BTW, I consider G+ integration as the biggest bloat in Android.
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Im with you. I love my nexus 5 to death, it's so fast and fluid. I even put purity and franco for the best battery/performance you can get from it. But still, battery life is not that good. I can get max 5 sot without playing games. And thats not enough. I cant have a peace of mind using a device that doesnt have a removable battery. But with my s4 and its battery kit, it's a pleasure to use. I can have 50% of juice left and have the battery kit 100% stand by waiting to be put. With this infinity battery life, i can have a peace of mind using my phone, even for playing emulators.
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Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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Then night as well get the S4 Google play edition
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Skander1998 said:
System uses 5.28GB.
So you'll have 10+ for the user.
As you can see from the screenshot it is loaded with trailers and demos.
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im just wondering if Samsung is going to release a 32Gb model right away or will we have to wait for one like people had to for the s4
RaptorMD said:
If you are on Verizon or AT&T you can't do squat with it. Perhaps the GS4 is the way to go or something else. I guess March 25th is worth waiting for.
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Out of curiosity (since I'm new to the droid world) -- Why can't you do anything with the Verizon or ATT model?
karmuh said:
Out of curiosity (since I'm new to the droid world) -- Why can't you do anything with the Verizon or ATT model?
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Most likely carrier locked bootloader.
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Check again the screenshot, it only have 5.28GB occupied by the OS, the rest is files the users put in there.
So you'll have 10.72GB available space.
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Yeah until the carriers (well the ones here in the US at least) get their hands on it & add their useless bloatware on top of Touchwiz, which brings me to my 2nd rant - Samsung or any other OEM has no business even offering up 16gb models these days. The standard should be 32gb at least & especially since Google wants to kill SD card access.
One to the Max
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Yeah until the carriers (well the ones here in the US at least) get their hands on it & add their useless bloatware on top of Touchwiz, which brings me to my 2nd rant - Samsung or any other OEM has no business even offering up 16gb models these days. The standard should be 32gb at least & especially since Google wants to kill SD card access.
One to the Max
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I agree about the 16gb part, but at most carrier bloatware will add maybe 512mb-2014mb. Which the major carriers let you delete some of the crap you don't want no problem.
harlz said:
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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OR, we can flash the GPE rom later
I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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I know it's my decision to do or not .
Honestly , I think it became more a habit than a necessity for most users.
1. First reason
After many years of owning latest smartphones I know very well which application I cannot live without. So after using pathed versions - for a (long) test purpose - just bought them. So - no need to root from this point.
2. Second reason
Stock UI. Been trying many ROM's with good or bad results and realised that there are never ideal custom soft for your mobile. They caused always some kind of trouble. Maybe the reason is I'm getting older and have no time to dig into system, but lately I decided to stick to preinstalled firmware and as the only modification - to change unuseful Galaxy launcher on similar Galaxy one from Play store. So again - no root needed.
And yes - I got my Note4 rooted. There are two reasons I did this:
1. To get a possibility to add any application shortcut to the bar on the right side. I know I can jump between applications by using the task touch button on the left side but I love to use the bar on the right. Much easier for me.
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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as far as I know Lollipop fixes the SD card Problems . Correct me if I am wrong
I'm still on Kit Kat. Was reading about SD on Lolipop and personally I think the new system SD storage improvement is dedicated to developers - not to us and our files whatever they are.
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I've rooted every android phone I have.. The note 3 took me about 8 months of non root use before I rooted to try custom ROMs.. They were great but not essential.
The note 4 running stock no root seems to be rock solid. Produces good enough performance to run anything with ease I chuck at it.. I like root apps. But deem non of them essential in my daily use of my phone. So in my opinion. This phone right now doesn't need root.
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Ive been rooting all my phones the xouple of years and tried allmost every rom. Now i have my note 4 since yesterday but i dont feel the need to root it. Its just fast the way it came with touchwiz. And for the first time i dont disturb the touchwiz it just works on this beast.
So in my opinion i shouldnt root it to make it faster.
Only thing is i cant greenify facebook becouse its a stock app. Does somebody know how i can greenify it ??
Yes
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Greenify? For battery life?
I'm gonna wait for lollipop, and then at least a few updates to that before I root.
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RoyLoy said:
I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
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It depends on what you are doing with your phone. If you use mobile banking I recommend you DO NOT use root if so use as much protection as you can. With root you basically control anything - change design, control behavior of you device, control it's CPU and GPU, using different ROMs and more.
I've rooted my S4 and with awesome tools on XDA I was able to revert it and with USB jig make it totally unroot without any evidence of change.
It probably will be on Note 4 however Know could be problem.
I use root, I've SuperSU Pro and also I use Eset Antivirus. Mainly I use Xposed and fantastic X-Note ROM. Also what I love about ROOT is backup - simpy in recovery like TWRP.
Anyway it still depends on you what you wanna do with your phone. You can live without it in stock but at least Android 4.4.4. in Note 4 with Stock ROM is pretty junk on RAM.
Just a personal preference. I specifically root all my devices for two main reasons.
1 adware programs
2 hotspot
Those 2 reasons usually are the only 2 for me. The warranty thing i feel like it doesnt matter for me. I use to keep the sprint insurance on my phones and if i had a prob i could just take it and and get a replacement or repair. Sprint hasnt ever told me they wouldnt fool with my phone because it was rooted. I just bring it in with stock software and most of them dont even know what root is. I swap around phones so much now i just dropped the insurance all together because i figured i was paying 130 dollars a year with the rate increase and i wasnt benefiting from it. I hardly ever use any kind of hotspot and sprint makes u pay 20 dollars extra a month. I dont think i use it enough to justify paying that. I can go 6 months easy without using it. Its just those few and far between cases where it comes in handy.
My 2 cents
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I didn't root my Note 1 or the Sony Z Ultra but I've been looking into rooting the Note 4 due to the phone interface being far too large for the size of the phone screen, the Z Ultra was correctly scaled to suit the larger screen so it made the Note 4 feel very cramped in comparison. I've used the adb trick I found on this forum to adjust the DPI without root which largely works well, it mucks up most of the Samsung applications which is fine as they can be replaced aside from the stock camera application which is meant to get the best out of the camera. The only solution seems to be to root it and set custom application specific dpi's although I'm not finding the misaligned camera screen too much of an issue.
John
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
donkon said:
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
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How will rooting help privacy?
I was lazy about rooting my Note 4 for a while but as soon as I did I realized I should not have waited as long as I did. There is some really solid, stable, streamlined ROMs available right now. The lag on stock is not as noticeable until you've rooted and installed a custom ROM. Now I can truly say the 4 is a beast.
touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
zurkx said:
touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
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LOL
jlczl said:
LOL
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No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
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No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
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I think that's what most knowledgeable people do when setting up a new TW phone. The LOL is because that doesn't eliminate the lag that is there. There is so much discussion about this all over, I don't really want to start it all over again here.
Since we've been talking about this pretty extensively in a different thread I figured I would make a new thread for discussing, troubleshooting and attempting to improve the ram management issue on the S6.
Hopefully some good will come of this
So far this Is what we've got:
Should work on all variants including the edge and possible on other Samsung devices.
Thanks to @mikeyinid for finding these and @s.rapp for answering questions, and making the instructions easier to understand
And anyone else who I may have missed who helped contribute.
Prerequisites:
-A rooted device
-A root file explorer/manager app
-A backup of your original build.prop to be safe
Explanation: (From @mikeyinid )
Here is a quick rundown on how this came about, and what we actually know.
Since I purchased the S6 on release day, I've been messing with certain things, as you can see from the ROM I posted, Looper(shameless plug). Debloating Samsung apps really helped with battery life and I was pretty happy with the results. But like so many other people, I didn't understand why my S6 killed apps so aggressively. Initially I thought it might be the memory leak we all know so much about in 5.0. So, I did a little research and found the patch for that. While it did help keep the device stable over time, apps were still being killed with no prejudice. All this time I noticed really useless services running in the background, often stuff I'd never even opened. I studied LMK and started messing with those settings. After a month of trying everything I could find documented, I was ready to give up. Yesterday I was looking through the services.jar smali for the 37,875th time and realized the DHA referenced in there has to have something to do with memory management. I kept overlooking it because I hadn't seen mention of it anywhere else. I am no smali guru, as some of you know. But it was pretty obvious DHA was influencing memory management to some extent. Samsung, although leaving us in the dark on this, was kind enough to give us props to set the values for DHA. I pulled a few that seemed relevant, added them to my build.prop, and what do you know. For the first time in almost two months of tinkering, I saw an improvement in the way my device was managing memory.
The thing everyone needs to understand; I have no clue what DHA is. It overrides every aspect of Googles LMK and seems to do so in a way that makes more sense. I'm sure someone with more knowledge than myself will be able to tune this to the point the S6 will be the multi-tasking champ. There are several other props in the smali that are probably useful. I will try to get them all with their default values posted today. This has been pretty exciting for me, I spent way to much time trying to figure out the issue to not make some sort of progress. I hope you guys enjoy the tweaks, and I hope it helps sway those of you on the fence about keeping this device to stay. It's only gonna get better
Instructions:
First find your build.prop. This is located in /system. to get to /system you need to go to the root directory using a file explorer and then go to the system folder. The build.prop will be in there. You can also use and app such as build.prop tweaker but its a bit harder (imo)
In your build.prop scroll to the very bottom and paste this in:
Code:
# MultiTasking Tweaks
ro.config.dha_cached_max=15
ro.config.dha_cached_min=4
ro.config.dha_empty_max=36
ro.config.dha_empty_min=9
ro.config.dha_empty_init=36
ro.config.dha_lmk_scale=0.545
ro.config.dha_update_max_count=5
ro.config.dha_step=2
ro.config.dha_th_rate=1.4
ro.config.dha_defend_th_level=0
ro.config.64bit_lmk_enable=true
ro.config.sdha_apps_bg_max=70
ro.config.sdha_apps_bg_min=8
ro.config.dha_ils_enable=true
ro.config.dha_ils_dyna_lmk=true
ro.config.dha_ils_rate=1.5
Now you need to find and remove any duplicate build.prop lines which may cause an issue. So look through the build.prop and remove any lines that look like these(Not the ones you just added at the bottom!):
ro.config.dha_cached_max=
ro.config.dha_empty_max=
ro.config.dha_th_rate=
ro.config.dha_lmk_scale=
Finally reboot your device and report back here!
Video Tutorial (courtesy of @Thin_Bezel )
https://youtu.be/d-vaLXF0OxY
A note from @mrapp :
"The major addendum here seems to be that when using this build.prop apps like Chrome and and those calling webpages via Webview (Tinfoil for Facebook) still suck. The kernels being tested at the moment don't appear to have this issue, so if you're capable of flashing kernels I personally recommend checking out the Vindicator thread if you're on T-Mobile/W8 or UniKernel (universal) if you're on any other device. UniKernel tests may or may not be edge friendly, so always make a backup. Lots of people have gotten in to trouble today. Don't be one of them!"
Please note we are constantly experimenting with different values so these are subject to be updated rather frequently
As I was saying before, Maybe someone can try compare Zenfone 2 services.jar with the one in samsung galaxy s6.
The Asus Zenfone 2 is knowed to had a great multitasking experience, it can keep a loot of apps even in his 2GB version, and remember that Zenfone is in Android 5.0 and don't have any problem with multitasking.
I already downloaded the firmware for Zenfone and decompiled his services.jar if someone like to try something, here is attached:
iFlasher said:
As I was saying before, Maybe someone can try compare Zenfone 2 services.jar with the one in samsung galaxy s6.
The Asus Zenfone 2 is knowed to had a great multitasking experience, it can keep a loot of apps even in his 2GB version, and remember that Zenfone is in Android 5.0 and don't have any problem with multitasking.
I already downloaded the firmware for Zenfone and decompiled his services.jar if someone like to try something, here is attached:
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I'll take a look at it, but I've already gone through several different services.jar trying to find anything that might make a difference. Everything appears to be exactly how Google intended it to be.
mikeyinid said:
I'll take a look at it, but I've already gone through several different services.jar trying to find anything that might make a difference. Everything appears to be exactly how Google intended it to be.
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I also noticed that Samsung uses the ramdisk to set VM memory settings and lmk settings rather than actually modifying the source for some reason. I tried removing all of these and letting the settings be stock google but that also made no difference
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Xileforce said:
I also noticed that Samsung uses the ramdisk to set VM memory settings and lmk settings rather than actually modifying the source for some reason. I tried removing all of these and letting the settings be stock google but that also made no difference
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Right, all of that can be controlled with init.d scripts. i set the values ridiculously high and can see that that scripts actually work. Then going the other way no matter how low I set them or even disable them, there is no difference. Still can't have more than 5 or so apps open.
mikeyinid said:
Right, all of that can be controlled with init.d scripts. i set the values ridiculously high and can see that that scripts actually work. Then going the other way no matter how low I set them or even disable them, there is no difference. Still can't have more than 5 or so apps open.
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What's a good test to see if memory management is improved? I've done some mods to lmk in my latest kernel and want to see if it helps any.
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Xileforce said:
What's a good test to see if memory management is improved? I've done some mods to lmk in my latest kernel and want to see if it helps any.
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just open apps, never hit the back button, then switch between them using recents.
mikeyinid said:
just open apps, never hit the back button, then switch between them using recents.
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Hmmm...idk still seems pretty mediocre :/ not sure if better or worse.
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Xileforce said:
Hmmm...idk still seems pretty mediocre :/ not sure if better or worse.
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Tried it on your latest kernel and it seems to be the same.
NJGSII said:
Tried it on your latest kernel and it seems to be the same.
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Yea figured...the issue apparently isn't the lmk then...
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Xileforce said:
Yea figured...the issue apparently isn't the lmk then...
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I don't know a whole about kernel stuff. Does there happen to be any oom_adj stuff in there?
I'm losing hope that this will be fixed with any update. I think moving to arm64 may have shot Samsung in the foot. What is the other arm64 lollipop device samsung has released? Note 4?.
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Xileforce said:
Yea figured...the issue apparently isn't the lmk then...
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It's not. It has nothing to do with lmk. I've messed with every possible scenario, pulled in stuff from cm and see no difference. Even changing oom_adj values in services.jar makes zero difference.
mikeyinid said:
I don't know a whole about kernel stuff. Does there happen to be any oom_adj stuff in there?
I'm losing hope that this will be fixed with any update. I think moving to arm64 may have shot Samsung in the foot. What is the other arm64 lollipop device samsung has released? Note 4?.
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It's not. It has nothing to do with lmk. I've messed with every possible scenario, pulled in stuff from cm and see no difference. Even changing oom_adj values in services.jar makes zero difference.
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I meant I thought it may help with killing recents so soon. It had some tweaks to preserve favorites among other things
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Xileforce said:
I meant I thought it may help with killing recents so soon. It had some tweaks to preserve favorites among other things
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I was agreeing with you lol.
mikeyinid said:
I don't know a whole about kernel stuff. Does there happen to be any oom_adj stuff in there?
I'm losing hope that this will be fixed with any update. I think moving to arm64 may have shot Samsung in the foot. What is the other arm64 lollipop device samsung has released? Note 4?.
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It's not. It has nothing to do with lmk. I've messed with every possible scenario, pulled in stuff from cm and see no difference. Even changing oom_adj values in services.jar makes zero difference.
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I have note 4 too and it has same problem with latest lollipop update, i switched to cm12.1 and now all the problem are gone, switching between apps it's really fast and apps stay in ram flawlessly.
CQ7 said:
I have note 4 too and it has same problem with latest lollipop update, i switched to cm12.1 and now all the problem are gone, switching between apps it's really fast and apps stay in ram flawlessly.
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Interesting. This gives me hope! Ty for sharing. Im pretty sure its an issue on the ROM side rather than kernel.
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Xileforce said:
Interesting. This gives me hope! Ty for sharing. Im pretty sure its an issue on the ROM side rather than kernel.
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Right, but what on the ROM side could be causing this kind of behavior? I see myself as quite tech savvy, but I'm woefully uninitiated in the inner workings of Android you guys are unraveling here.
Even after removing just about all of Samsungs proprietary stuff, just leaving the bare basics, we're still seeing app genocide as soon as we're multitasking.
It'd sure be awesome of the community fixes this before Samsung does...
Has Samsung acknowledge this issue and said they will fix it with the 5.1.1 update? Honestly, I feel like for the premium you pay for this phone, this is very ridiculous. Things like these can really make or break a purchase. I myself have not got the S6 solely for this reason, I cannot justify spending 600+ on a device which cannot even keep up with my 3 year old Nexus 4.
I hope they do fix it this month though. What are the chances they will though, the S6 is selling well so Samsung probably does not care about these things.
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Has Samsung acknowledge this issue and said they will fix it with the 5.1.1 update? Honestly, I feel like for the premium you pay for this phone, this is very ridiculous. Things like these can really make or break a purchase. I myself have not got the S6 solely for this reason, I cannot justify spending 600+ on a device which cannot even keep up with my 3 year old Nexus 4.
I hope they do fix it this month though. What are the chances they will though, the S6 is selling well so Samsung probably does not care about these things.
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The S6 isn't selling as well as Samsung had hoped. And the memory issue is probably a large part of it. I have a S4 also, and it doesn't have any issues multi tasking on lollipop. It's shameful that a 3 year old device can managed to run just about everything I throw at it with no problem.
oxxshadow said:
Has Samsung acknowledge this issue and said they will fix it with the 5.1.1 update? Honestly, I feel like for the premium you pay for this phone, this is very ridiculous. Things like these can really make or break a purchase. I myself have not got the S6 solely for this reason, I cannot justify spending 600+ on a device which cannot even keep up with my 3 year old Nexus 4.
I hope they do fix it this month though. What are the chances they will though, the S6 is selling well so Samsung probably does not care about these things.
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Samsung has acknowledged the ram issue and said they will fix it in an update. That's about as specific as they got. My guess would be 5.1.1 update though.
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Xileforce said:
Samsung has acknowledged the ram issue and said they will fix it in an update. That's about as specific as they got. My guess would be 5.1.1 update though.
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Sadly, Samsung has neither acknowledged the specific issue nor promised any updates. All the articles in the blogosphere regarding this (including the one from Forbes) cite a Facebook comment from a random Samsung employee giving an incredibly vague and generic response about future updates when asked a direct question about the memory issue by xda member johanbiff.
I'm baffled by the low level of journalism here.
EDIT: Typo.
This might be the first phone I leave stock. I do miss xposed on my htc, but aside from that. I don't see any reason to root. Am I the only one with similar feelings?
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only 1 reason is ram management bug
adidas123 said:
only 1 reason is ram management bug
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Glad that you mentioned this. Whenever I switch between apps and go back into chrome. The page I was viewing has to reload. How is this fixed via root?
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So... you have to make changes to the build.xxx file? Are all phones affected by this ram issue? I haven't experienced any issues with apps crashing or lagging.
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So... you have to make changes to the build.xxx file? Are all phones affected by this ram issue? I haven't experienced any issues with apps crashing or lagging.
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Honestly other than debloating, I could have left it stock as well.
I have incredibly itchy fingers though If I'm not messing with something that can turn my phone into a paperweight, I'm not having fun. Even the ram management stock wasn't noticeable to me. The Tmobile bloat is horrible, and I love loading ROMs and screwing with stuff I shouldn't be for the sake of the community.
LMT pie, adaway, custom roms, alliance framework, volume warning removal, de bloating, viper4android, etc... Root is always necessary.
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You are not missing much by not rooting. Nothing out there anyways. Most bloat can be disabled. No fix for ram issues. Only samsung can fix it if they want.
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ambervals6 said:
You are not missing much by not rooting. Nothing out there anyways. Most bloat can be disabled. No fix for ram issues. Only samsung can fix it if they want.
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True, I have everything disabled and I haven't found the need to root.
NYLUVBUG said:
True, I have everything disabled and I haven't found the need to root.
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Stock since April 10th ram management isn't a huge issue for me. First phone ever not rooted. I'm satisfied.
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philliman said:
Stock since April 10th ram management isn't a huge issue for me. First phone ever not rooted. I'm satisfied.
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Agree, you won't miss much by not rooting. I have disabled most of the bloat which are allowed to be disabled. I can switch between apps without any issues. I got a replacement device last week because the previous one will just turn off itself even if the battery is charged. the "new" (Actually is seems refurbished) works well so far. I have repeated the same process on disabling the unwanted apps, turning off wifi calling and VoLTE, screen on auto brightness, all the usual stuff. Battery life is not great, but can last a working day with moderate usage. If you are on the road, and use camera, maps, then battery drains quickly. If t-mobile network is poor where you are( which is a not unusal), battery will drain even quicker.
T version has to many app from stock... Almost 1.5gb of trash stuff.
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Agree, you won't miss much by not rooting. I have disabled most of the bloat which are allowed to be disabled. I can switch between apps without any issues. I got a replacement device last week because the previous one will just turn off itself even if the battery is charged. the "new" (Actually is seems refurbished) works well so far. I have repeated the same process on disabling the unwanted apps, turning off wifi calling and VoLTE, screen on auto brightness, all the usual stuff. Battery life is not great, but can last a working day with moderate usage. If you are on the road, and use camera, maps, then battery drains quickly. If t-mobile network is poor where you are( which is a not unusal), battery will drain even quicker.
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I have everything enabled. Disabled the apps that I don't use and my battery life is great for my needs. 15 hrs with moderate use. I'm not big on SOT because I'm not in my phone all day long. Lol people be wanting 10 hrs SOT. ? ? ?
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viper4android!
I semi-bricked my phone and haven't been rooted since bringing it back to life. The only thing I truly miss is AdAway. It's been years since I had to browse the web without an ad blocker and I feel like they've turned up the onslaught ten fold.
Not bad at all.
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I wouldn't root either, but I hate ads, ad-away is a must for me. Adguard and all those work when browsing but not in apps. Until then I will stick to 5.0.2 with root. If anyone knows of a alternative for ad blocking like ad-away does, please let me know.
I need root. Few reasons. Debloating, ViperFX and volume button skip mod (whenever we get one)
Also really really hoping official Cyanogenmod makes it to this phone. I miss AOSP with all my heart.
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I need root. Few reasons. Debloating, ViperFX and volume button skip mod (whenever we get one)
Also really really hoping official Cyanogenmod makes it to this phone. I miss AOSP with all my heart.
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Why not get a nexus then
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ambervals6 said:
Why not get a nexus then
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It's too damn big lol plus I prefer Samsung software. The S4 was perfect because of Google's GPE program. But since that's dead the best I can hope for is that sooner or later CM will come to the S6.
Our phones are developmentally dead.
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Our phones are developmentally dead.
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sadly yeah, aslong as we could find a way to get root im happy. all i want is adaway.
I don't think it's dead
If they found a way to develop for the S6 edge then I'm sure there's a way for the S7 Edge
Why are they dead? I just got this phone and curious why?
HRodMusic said:
sadly yeah, aslong as we could find a way to get root im happy. all i want is adaway.
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Did you try Adblock Fast that is build into Samsung 4.0? Download from App store and then manually setup using instructions.
I'm using it on my S7 with zero issues and no ads. Of course, limited to Samsung browser.
I'm using adguard which sets up personal VPN on phone to block ads. Seems to work for all apps but does hit battery life a bit. Worth it for me.
martinezma99 said:
Did you try Adblock Fast that is build into Samsung 4.0? Download from App store and then manually setup using instructions.
I'm using it on my S7 with zero issues and no ads. Of course, limited to Samsung browser.
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I have not, is it pretty legit? im gonna give it a go right now.
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I have not, is it pretty legit? im gonna give it a go right now.
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Yes. Legit. It got bad ratings but works perfect on my S7. I think people haven't realized you need Samsung Internet 4.0 or it won't work.
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Why are they dead? I just got this phone and curious why?
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Bootloaders are locked. Flash secured and all. All us carriers, not the exynos, but all us snapdragons, including tmobile. We are on twitter and got a response from John Legere who claims to be working on a potential solution to at least getting tmobiles unlocked. Historically we have always been fine, but for some reason we aren't now. Doesn't make sense for the exynos to unlocked and SD to be locked imo
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Why would safestrap not work for this phone? The note 3 was locked and we had root and roms
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Bootloaders are locked. Flash secured and all. All us carriers, not the exynos, but all us snapdragons, including tmobile. We are on twitter and got a response from John Legere who claims to be working on a potential solution to at least getting tmobiles unlocked. Historically we have always been fine, but for some reason we aren't now. Doesn't make sense for the exynos to unlocked and SD to be locked imo
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Here's hoping.... I'll buy one the day root drops.
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Why would safestrap not work for this phone? The note 3 was locked and we had root and roms
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I'm sure something will come up eventually. Us folks on ATT are used to being screwed with the locked bootloaders. Think it might be new for T-Mobile users though. It might take a little longer, but ATT Samsung devices typically get root after some point.
I've had it since launch, my Nexus 6 basically died. I miss the debloating root allows, like how I'm forced to have the Directv app when I don't have any interest in having Directv. I do like it though it's a nice phone. If we can get root to remove the bloatware I'm for that otherwise I'll live with it for a year until something better drops.
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Yes. Legit. It got bad ratings but works perfect on my S7. I think people haven't realized you need Samsung Internet 4.0 or it won't work.
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I'm using it now as personal VPN on adguard was eating battery. Just make sure to set it for no ads (default is some safe ads). On some ads I was getting occasional pop-up ads.
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I'm forcing myself to stay secured with all the fbi vs apple stuff going on.
rachelm920 said:
I've had it since launch, my Nexus 6 basically died. I miss the debloating root allows, like how I'm forced to have the Directv app when I don't have any interest in having Directv. I do like it though it's a nice phone. If we can get root to remove the bloatware I'm for that otherwise I'll live with it for a year until something better drops.
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You can use package disabler pro from the play store to remove bloatware
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You can use package disabler pro from the play store to remove bloatware
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People are reporting worse battery life after debloating system apps with that on the S7
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You can use package disabler pro from the play store to remove bloatware
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It doesn't remove anything, it just disables apps that are able to be disabled. I can do that myself.
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It doesn't remove anything, it just disables apps that are able to be disabled. I can do that myself.
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Yeah I disabled the directv app and some others myself. Glad I have expandable storage so it doesn't hog my memory LOL
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I'm using it now as personal VPN on adguard was eating battery. Just make sure to set it for no ads (default is some safe ads). On some ads I was getting occasional pop-up ads.
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VPNs like Adguard don't "eat" battery. What your seeing is that the system attributes all battery used by apps that access the internet to the VPN.
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Why would safestrap not work for this phone? The note 3 was locked and we had root and roms
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Seems like Pre-Lollipop builds were always hacked for root. Also, at least on my S5 G900A, Pre-rooted 5.0 was able to be flashed as long as the BL was kept OA1 (KK 4.4.4). But if you took the OTA to 5.0, no root ever! Also they totally locked it down with 5.1. FU ATT!!!! :laugh::silly:
But they sure did get into that S6 pretty fast, didn't they? Go figure.
I applied to this Samsung Mobile Insights program. Might get a free G935A or G930A if accepted into it. I do not know how I will live without root, but at least it has a sdcard. I do not have a good feeling about a battery that does not come out though...