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Does new phone come with JB? If so should I stay with it and not to accept OTA?
It seems that Kitkat update introduced several issues (problem with email syncing, bluetooth incompatibility wit some cars, etc). Is there anything else? I am fine with not having the latest and greatest.
Also: is it possible to downgrade Moto X DE (GSM) back to JB? I am not 100% sure from reading this forum.
The kit Kat update had issues but nothing on the scale of the Samsung galaxy family's 4.3 update. I haven't noticed any issue on mine nor any on customers. Totally worth upgrading it.
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The only issue I am having with mine is that while it says its connected to web (either lte or wifi) it won't actually connect. A reboot fixes the issue until it comes back.
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The only issue I am having with mine is that while it says its connected to web (either lte or wifi) it won't actually connect. A reboot fixes the issue until it comes back.
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Did you have this issue while on JB?
Dont know as mine came with 4.4 which did not have this weird issue. It may be something I installed so a wipe may be in order.
Go to KK, no question
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The only issue I had was Google maps not showing my direct location with high accuracy on. It was hard for me to distinguish if I needed to go right or left then it has a hard time rerouting. Which pissed my wife off lol.
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It will come with KitKat, and good luck not bricking the phone trying to downgrade it.
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Don't forget text reflow has been deprecated. Major loss in browsers and reading apps.
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Don't forget text reflow has been deprecated. Major loss in browsers and reading apps. Blink is in web view. Also means invert lost.
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eksasol said:
It will come with KitKat, and good luck not bricking the phone trying to downgrade it.
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Mine arrived with 4.2.2 installed, (2 weeks ago) and it took two updates to get to 4.4, 1'st 4.2.2 then 4.4. No regrets on the update for me, but then again I let the updates fly when I turned on the phone.
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It will come with KitKat, and good luck not bricking the phone trying to downgrade it.
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Just got my vzw DE wednesday, 2/12/2014. Came with 4.2.2 pre-camera update. soon as it booted it took the 4.2.2 camera update, then shortly after that came 4.4. did all the updates then unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted. happy as a clam!
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Just got my vzw DE wednesday, 2/12/2014. Came with 4.2.2 pre-camera update. soon as it booted it took the 4.2.2 camera update, then shortly after that came 4.4. did all the updates then unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted. happy as a clam!
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let me make this blunt before you even get your phone
your phone is a DE so you can root any version
is you come with 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 you can upgrade and downgrade between thouse two versions only
if your phone comes with 4.4.2 you can not downgrade at all so just root it and enjoy because most people are trying to get there and bricking there phones half the time.
if you have any other question please post or PM me
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let me make this blunt before you even get your phone
your phone is a DE so you can root any version
is you come with 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 you can upgrade and downgrade between thouse two versions only
if your phone comes with 4.4.2 you can not downgrade at all so just root it and enjoy because most people are trying to get there and bricking there phones half the time.
if you have any other question please post or PM me
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That makes it very clear. But can you elaborate on why downgrade from 4.4.2 is not possible? I currently use rooted Droid Incredible on Verizon with CM 7.1 and if I am not mistaken I can flash pretty much any previous ROM I want (I really haven't tinkered with it for last couple of years, so I may be wrong).
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That makes it very clear. But can you elaborate on why downgrade from 4.4.2 is not possible? I currently use rooted Droid Incredible on Verizon with CM 7.1 and if I am not mistaken I can flash pretty much any previous ROM I want (I really haven't tinkered with it for last couple of years, so I may be wrong).
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Moto changed the bootloader in 4.4.2 and they dont allow you to downgrade
Moto X DE - mine coming soon as well - some questions
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Moto changed the bootloader in 4.4.2 and they dont allow you to downgrade
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My VZW Moto X DE is on its way to me, and I've spent a bunch of time on the forums yet still have the following questions and hope you can help. My current phone is an original Droid Incredible, which I rooted, mostly for recovery, backups, tethering, and system monitoring. This site was a great resource back when I did that and I greatly appreciated the information.
RE: the Moto X, I've read the steps for unlocking the bootloader and which paths for upgrading/downgrading are safe given the release shipped with the phone. That information was for the standard Moto X. If the DE is unlocked, can I just go straight to rooting the phone? If the OTA updates won't work with root, is it best to accept the latest OTA pushes once my phone is online and then root? I want to be clear about what I've gained by getting the DE edition. Why go back to 4.4.2 if it ships with a later release?
I have no plans in the near future for changing ROM's. I'd just like to initially install what I am using on the Incredible - the clockworkmod recovery app (or current equivalent), titanium backuip, and a good tethering program. I currently use android wifi tether.
Thanks for any help.
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My VZW Moto X DE is on its way to me, and I've spent a bunch of time on the forums yet still have the following questions and hope you can help. My current phone is an original Droid Incredible, which I rooted, mostly for recovery, backups, tethering, and system monitoring. This site was a great resource back when I did that and I greatly appreciated the information.
RE: the Moto X, I've read the steps for unlocking the bootloader and which paths for upgrading/downgrading are safe given the release shipped with the phone. That information was for the standard Moto X. If the DE is unlocked, can I just go straight to rooting the phone? If the OTA updates won't work with root, is it best to accept the latest OTA pushes once my phone is online and then root? I want to be clear about what I've gained by getting the DE edition.
I have no plans in the near future for changing ROM's. I'd just like to initially install what I am using on the Incredible - the clockworkmod recovery app (or current equivalent), titanium backuip, and a good tethering program. I currently use android wifi tether.
Thanks for any help.
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I have a dev ed and keep mine the same way you intend... What I've gleaned so far is that the each update includes a new bootloader version that cannot be downgraded, i.e. if you take 4.4.2 you cannot downgrade to 4.4. At this point the VZW version only has 4.4.
As far as getting the phone to how you want it after you take the upgrades the material in the following two links should get you right where you want to be...
Custom recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2424110
Verizon boot animation and tether hack...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645343
He kind of muddied it up by adding other cleanup tools that I'm not interested in, if you're like me and only want the tether hack you will need to go to the 140.45.5 folder in his link and download xt1060-140.45.5-vzw-removal-s.zip He also has an undo zip that you might want to download and stash away just in case.
This part is speculative and potentially dangerous so take with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong.
My understanding is that the big issue from the downgrade is that there will be a partition table mismatch if one takes an OTA upgrade and the phone will be bricked, though I can find nothing solid on this. Being that I plan on keeping a custom recovery I don't have to worry about accidentally taking an OTA and for some reason prefer to have the ability to downgrade, when 4.4.2 comes out I'm going to try to flash everything but the bootloader and I believe the partition table, (I need to read more and understand more before I speak with authority) to see if I can get away with it.
Also, on a side note, I found that freezing pre installed apps/bloat destroyed the wonderful battery life I was getting so I would suggest you keep your phone stock for a few days to get a feel for how the phone behaves before you begin freezing bloat.
Enjoy your new toy!
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I have a dev ed and keep mine the same way you intend... What I've gleaned so far is that the each update includes a new bootloader version that cannot be downgraded, i.e. if you take 4.4.2 you cannot downgrade to 4.4. At this point the VZW version only has 4.4.
As far as getting the phone to how you want it after you take the upgrades the material in the following two links should get you right where you want to be...
Custom recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2424110
Verizon boot animation and tether hack...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645343
He kind of muddied it up by adding other cleanup tools that I'm not interested in, if you're like me and only want the tether hack you will need to go to the 140.45.5 folder in his link and download xt1060-140.45.5-vzw-removal-s.zip He also has an undo zip that you might want to download and stash away just in case.
This part is speculative and potentially dangerous so take with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong.
My understanding is that the big issue from the downgrade is that there will be a partition table mismatch if one takes an OTA upgrade and the phone will be bricked, though I can find nothing solid on this. Being that I plan on keeping a custom recovery I don't have to worry about accidentally taking an OTA and for some reason prefer to have the ability to downgrade, when 4.4.2 comes out I'm going to try to flash everything but the bootloader and I believe the partition table, (I need to read more and understand more before I speak with authority) to see if I can get away with it.
Also, on a side note, I found that freezing pre installed apps/bloat destroyed the wonderful battery life I was getting so I would suggest you keep your phone stock for a few days to get a feel for how the phone behaves before you begin freezing bloat.
Enjoy your new toy!
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Thanks for that information. The last paragrapht seems counter-intuitive. I froze apps on the incredible so that it would reduce battery drain, why would freezing apps increase battery drain?
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Thanks for that information. The last paragrapht seems counter-intuitive. I froze apps on the incredible so that it would reduce battery drain, why would freezing apps increase battery drain?
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No idea, but freezing moto apps killed the battery. I haven't figured out what the culprit is yet as I'll be travelling this week and I don't want to jack up the phone while I'm on the road. I suspect another system app was spending effort looking for a missing app. Had I not ran my phone stock for a week I may have assumed that was just the phone as the high battery use was about the same as what I typically got on my S3. However, once I started freezing apps battery life went way down. Battery is good again after defrosting all Moto stuff that I assumed to be garbage. Once I get off the road I'll start freezing apps one at a time to see if I can isolate the culprit.
My thought is if you run it stock for a week you'll have a pretty good feel as to how the phone performs so you'll know whether your tweaks are helping or hurting you.
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Verizon boot animation and tether hack...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645343
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Now that I'm looking at a full size computer I see that you are not getting a VZW version, The link above is not good! Sorry
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Now that I'm looking at a full size computer I see that you are not getting a VZW version, The link above is not good! Sorry
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Yes, I am getting the Verizon DE. (VZW, 1st post).
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DON'T OTA
going to post this once... please spread the word into the other G4 subforums and any related posts anywhere.
I'm not sure if this is cause for alarm... but just putting the warning out there... based on viewing the latest USCC and T-Mobile files... these recent OTAs for USA carriers seem to be implementing "antirollback" which means you can never "go back" to a lesser version. To simplify things... fresh out of the box all of your phones were at "0" and now after the OTA they're at "1". Both the TMO and USCC KDZ file's are based on the OTA which is a "1" so there's no concern of flashing an older KDZ by mistake... at least for now. Not sure what will happen with future updates.
Can only confirm this on the TMO H811 and USCC US991... Still waiting on Sprint users to grab the OTA URL or zip name for me so I can inspect that... but I suspect all of the recent OTAs from AT&T, Sprint and Verizon also used the "1" update. The European/Asian/Etc variants still seem to be using the "0" version.. even after the recent updates. [Not every OTA will bump up the "version"]
I can't say what this means as a whole just yet... Maybe nothing at all. But perhaps for those who wish to stay at that fresh "0" for now... try your best to avoid the OTA update. I know the intl phones can disable updates but this option has been removed in USA variants. There are talks of an app that allows you to disable apks on your phone... I haven't used it myself but perhaps for those who want to maybe block the OTA app (LGDMSClient.apk)... worth checking out. This is said app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...bloat-t2998294
apks to attempt to disable:
/system/priv-app/LGDMSClient/LGDMSClient.apk (not in all phones)
/system/priv-apps/LGUpdateCenter/LGUpdateCenter.apk
Again.. I don't really know what any of this means just yet... just reporting what I do know. Spread the word.
And for those who were forced to OTA.. or saying this post has come too late.. everyone knows to never ever OTA.. and the app to disable OTA has been around for a bit now. I'm sorry but..
Cross fingers and hope I'm wrong
Phones with "v1" status confirmed:
H811 10H
US991 10C
Seems to work
Thanks for the heads-up. Tried this on my H811 and it seemed to work. It is not able to block the apps, but it can disable them. Hopefully that is enough to stop an OTA.
I did get a message from ES File Explorer that the LG World app had been removed and asked me if I wanted to delete it's folder. So that is a good sign.
After reboot the Update Center in app settings has all options, including force stop, grayed out. So that leads me to believe that it is no longer running. Also, all changes stuck per the debloater program after reboot. :good:
Quick question: How do we tell if the phone has taken an OTA update? This generation has been pretty sneaky about running updates without asking thus far. I am currently on build LMY47D, but I am not sure if that is any different than what originally came on the phone.
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Thanks for the heads-up. Tried this on my H811 and it seemed to work. It is not able to block the apps, but it can disable them. Hopefully that is enough to stop an OTA.
I did get a message from ES File Explorer that the LG World app had been removed and asked me if I wanted to delete it's folder. So that is a good sign.
After reboot the Update Center in app settings has all options, including force stop, grayed out. So that leads me to believe that it is no longer running. Also, all changes stuck per the debloater program after reboot. :good:
Quick question: How do we tell if the phone has taken an OTA update? This generation has been pretty sneaky about running updates without asking thus far. I am currently on build LMY47D, but I am not sure if that is any different than what originally came on the phone.
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For T-Mobile the software version of the latest update is H81110h. Find this under software, in About Phone. If you have that you took the FOTA/OTA from T-Mobile.
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That's the one that updated itself by force. H81110H
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That's the one that updated itself by force. H81110H
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Well damn, looks like I was a bit too late. At least I can avoid the next one.
I have the latest software. It didnt ask me just installed it, before I even got phone setup.
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I purchased my g4 the evening before the pre-order for tmobile started .... So may 27th ish early. The girl on The phone said i was The first one to order it. Got it 3days later. When i first powered it on i was careful to not let it update, Which it didn't. Since I've had the phone it has never updated. When i checked software version I'm on h811 10h of lmy47d. I think it came installed with 10h.
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Confirmed. I just received one that shipped with 10h and know of one other.
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But my point was that I received one of the first ones that were commercially available in the United States. I was three first person to get one thru t mo pre-order. Right the second they became available, and it was 10h
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Those greedy bastards just dont want us to experience happiness. (i.e. root, unlock boot). They want us to just be calm in their regime, so they can 'monitor' what we 'do'. Lg......jeez Its just a damn phone, gimme the unlock bin.
got mine on the 8th, before i walked out of the store it was updating to 10h (didnt know about this till now). i think the sales girl did the update while she had it in her grubby little hands
so if i understand, once you get to 10h you cant go back a version, is that right? didnt this same thing happen with the g2?
It auto updates during the setup process unfortunately. I'm sure she didn't care much about it. I'm a rep and I'm pretty sure nobody that is a rep besides me (out of everyone is talked to) knows much about stuff like this. I'm annoyed that we don't have the unlocked bootloader like the g3. :/
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What app was at this link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...bloat-t2998294 I just ask cause the link is dead and I'm getting my phone soon.
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What app was at this link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...bloat-t2998294 I just ask cause the link is dead and I'm getting my phone soon.
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you mean this link?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
its the debloater tool you can use without root
Just purchased a G4 myself and saw it updating at the counter. Pretty sure it updates during the setup process and we have no choice. Current software version in my hands is H81110h. Is this not the original version? Do we have a KDZ in which is older that we can attempt to use to go backwards? Thanks!
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Just purchased a G4 myself and saw it updating at the counter. Pretty sure it updates during the setup process and we have no choice. Current software version in my hands is H81110h. Is this not the original version? Do we have a KDZ in which is older that we can attempt to use to go backwards? Thanks!
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Original was whatever it says on the box label next to "S/W:". Most phones shipped with 10d.
Midnight_Rider said:
you mean this link?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
its the debloater tool you can use without root
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Funny. Your link worked, but the one the OP used gives me a 404 error. Weird.
I'm getting a g4 this week most likely does this mean I can no longer root my device
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I'm getting a g4 this week most likely does this mean I can no longer root my device
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This thread is old... You can root with the current update.
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Anyone rooted even going forward with this?
I downloaded it and went to install it, figured a stagefright patch wouldn't kill me. Booted into TWRP and tried to apply the update from cache -> update.zip, but it didn't go through and I haven't tried again. If I do it, I'll let you know how it goes and if anything root related gets disrupted.
rooters might consider it a trap.. but I for one am happy that they took the time to update our phones for this pretty ugly exploit. I admit I did hold my breath for a second thinking they might have given us lollipop.
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rooters might consider it a trap.. but I for one am happy that they took the time to update our phones for this pretty ugly exploit. I admit I did hold my breath for a second thinking they might have given us lollipop.
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On what model u got it?
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Badnewsbilbo said:
I downloaded it and went to install it, figured a stagefright patch wouldn't kill me. Booted into TWRP and tried to apply the update from cache -> update.zip, but it didn't go through and I haven't tried again. If I do it, I'll let you know how it goes and if anything root related gets disrupted.
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KK. It would be great if SuperSU survival mode worked however I've only ever seen it work on the nexus line for OTA updates.
Murshad007 said:
On what model u got it?
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LS995
On the tmobile varrient I did the update though the menu and then re rooted with kings root. Used freedom flex to reinstall recovery. Pretty painless as far as updates go.
I ran the update on mine last night, it kept saying something unexpected was in system/apps/LGweather.apk, and I couldn't find it in my files so I probably went the longest way around possible, flashed back to stock, ran all the updates and rerooted with stumproot and installed twrp.
all back to normal, xposed works, everything is as it should. It's no lollipop, but at least they even bothered to send out a stagefright fix. So it's safe everyone
Pretty sure the last time I tried that method with an OTA, Stump wouldn't re-root. I have auto MMS off so I'll likely disregard this update and hold out until the Flex 3 blows everything away in 2016.
Just an FYI this update is useless. If you run Stagefright Detector you will see you are still vulnerable after the update :/
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Just an FYI this update is useless. If you run Stagefright Detector you will see you are still vulnerable after the update :/
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6 vulnerabilities are found before and 2 Vulnerabilities found just a couple of weeks before. So they ain't patched in some updates
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I've got an LS995ZVA...Sprint P.P. I installed too, and it broke root. Also have TWRP installed with Freedom Flex. Downloaded Stumproot...it installed, but whats weird is that it SAYS device is rooted, but in actuality is NOT. No internet at home, so I'll need to make a trip to McDonald's for WiFi & fries with a laptop
With Stumproot you have to flash back to completely untouched for it to work again. You won't be able to reroot with it till you restore an untouched nandroid then apply the update or kdz to stock
Hi I have a DROID Turbo that currently has the MOFO Rooted ROM installed. I have to send my in for the screen replacement, but need to remove the Root as this voids the warranty. I have went to the SU app and clicked on the remove root, but am unsure if that is all I need to do besides wiping my cell.
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Hi I have a DROID Turbo that currently has the MOFO Rooted ROM installed. I have to send my in for the screen replacement, but need to remove the Root as this voids the warranty. I have went to the SU app and clicked on the remove root, but am unsure if that is all I need to do besides wiping my cell.
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I had to use the screen replacement last summer for my first Turbo, which was purchased from Verizon around Thanksgiving 2014. I never took an OTA update and got MOFO root as soon as it came out. I'm not sure if this works for everyone, but the only way I was able to have the "Modified" Software status on bootloader changed to Unmodified before I sent it back for replacement was to plug it into a windows computer with Verizon's Upgrade Assistant installed, wipe everything and reset to factory (backup anything you want to save first), and let it update. I couldn't read the screen but after letting the busted phone update, I do remember somewhere within the Verizon application it stated the software status was Unmodified (or what ever else it's supposed to say).
Not sure if it will work for you but it's something to try.
Thank you for the info... I'll give it a try
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Thank you for the info... I'll give it a try
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If that doesn't work, you might have to purchase moforoot or Sunshine in order to flash an unrooted image, and to get rid of the Modified line.
I tried the rootjunky unroot, but still see the modified line in boot. I also tried the VZW update tool, but the communications seem to stop around 17 of 20 packets... I've been stumped all day... Can you post a link for the MOFO unmodified image? Or the sunshine rout... I've paid for the MOFO root, so maybe I don't need to buy it...
Thanks in advance
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I tried the rootjunky unroot, but still see the modified line in boot. I also tried the VZW update tool, but the communications seem to stop around 17 of 20 packets... I've been stumped all day... Can you post a link for the MOFO unmodified image? Or the sunshine rout... I've paid for the MOFO root, so maybe I don't need to buy it...
Thanks in advance
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I'm not sure about this article's reliability, but it looked like it could help you.
Or you can download these files for the appropriate firmware version and flash them after unlocking with Sunshine.
Your best bet would be to flash the stock system image with mofo. Unfortunately, I was unable to find the flashable moforoot unrooted image.
I'm unsure if this would change the Modified line to Unmodified; if it doesn't than I have no idea.
Additionally, Motorola offers a repair service where you can send in a device to be repaired either for a small fee or for free. With the paid option, they don't inspect the actual device, and they send you a new phone. This could be used as a last resort.
I tried the article... The downgrade didn't work... I'll see if sunshine will work...
The sunshine one is the same one I tried earlier from rootjunky... The software line in the boot still sez modified, but the software in the about phone area sez official.. Dunno...
You might have to just use the Motorola service. Why do you want to get rid of the Modified line, again?
raxhunter said:
I tried the rootjunky unroot, but still see the modified line in boot. I also tried the VZW update tool, but the communications seem to stop around 17 of 20 packets... I've been stumped all day... Can you post a link for the MOFO unmodified image? Or the sunshine rout... I've paid for the MOFO root, so maybe I don't need to buy it...
Thanks in advance
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Factory reset, then use the Verizon update tool? Wait for it to actually finish? It probably takes a long time.
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Latiken said:
You might have to just use the Motorola service. Why do you want to get rid of the Modified line, again?
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The screen is cracked, VZW will replace the screen for free if phone is less then 1yr old, but in the return box there is a clause for modified software that won't cover the broken screen.
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Factory reset, then use the Verizon update tool? Wait for it to actually finish? It probably takes a long time.
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That's what I tried... It gets to about packet 17 of 20 then the screen sez lost communication... It's weird because onbthe cell is sez USB connected...
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The screen is cracked, VZW will replace the screen for free if phone is less then 1yr old, but in the return box there is a clause for modified software that won't cover the broken screen.
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You don't have to use Verizon's service. There's two options you can use, both from Motorola: a paid one and a free one. The link is in one of my previous posts.
Someone on the forum said that with the paid option, they send you a new (or very well refurbished) Turbo without looking at your current device (so they wouldn't penalize you for it being modded.)
The free option is a bit more iffy. The same someone said that they check the device, but Motorola didn't specify if they check the software, or just the hardware.
The paid option would be your best bet, but you can opt for the free option if you feel a bit risky.
Hi everyone, after years of owning an Optimus G, I finally decided to get me a G4 as I saw at a good price.
So after skimming through a bit I noticed there's some stuff going about 6.0 update issues and how some recent batches are fine now. I'm a bit confused so wanted to know what's good to do with the new device (rooting, unlocking, updating, etc) as I haven't decided to update to 6.0 because of what the forums say.
What's a good set of steps to get the phone working at its fullest? All advice is appreciated.
Arcsol said:
Hi everyone, after years of owning an Optimus G, I finally decided to get me a G4 as I saw at a good price.
So after skimming through a bit I noticed there's some stuff going about 6.0 update issues and how some recent batches are fine now. I'm a bit confused so wanted to know what's good to do with the new device (rooting, unlocking, updating, etc) as I haven't decided to update to 6.0 because of what the forums say.
What's a good set of steps to get the phone working at its fullest? All advice is appreciated.
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Just bought one too. It's a great device. Mine came with 6.0 installed.
Updating is good, IMHO. I had 20i out of the box though..
You can unlock bootloader and root and even install ROMs!
I unlocked my bootloader and installed TWRP within the first hour of owning the device. Modified the stock 6.0 system to my liking and it runs fantastically. Very stable.
I also use CM13. I love Cyanogenmod. So I had to install it. CM13 is quite good and very snappy on this device. You lose some function of the camera and several features of the stock OS but you reap the benefits of amazing firmware and great options.. Honestly, it's a toss up between the 2 firmwares (stock & CM) for me. The camera takes great photos in CM13 but no manual mode or 4k video or laser focus apparently. But you will need to start with stock 6.0..
It really depends what you want out of your phone..
There's also many options for ROMs to install.
- LG-H811 via XDA app on CM13.
brossovitch said:
Just bought one too. It's a great device. Mine came with 6.0 installed.
Updating is good, IMHO. I had 20i out of the box though..
You can unlock bootloader and root and even install ROMs!
I unlocked my bootloader and installed TWRP within the first hour of owning the device. Modified the stock 6.0 system to my liking and it runs fantastically. Very stable.
I also use CM13. I love Cyanogenmod. So I had to install it. CM13 is quite good and very snappy on this device. You lose some function of the camera and several features of the stock OS but you reap the benefits of amazing firmware and great options.. Honestly, it's a toss up between the 2 firmwares (stock & CM) for me. The camera takes great photos in CM13 but no manual mode or 4k video or laser focus apparently. But you will need to start with stock 6.0..
It really depends what you want out of your phone..
There's also many options for ROMs to install.
- LG-H811 via XDA app on CM13.
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Hey thanks for the feedback! I did upgrade as a leap of faith and no real problems so far. And yeah, I decided to root now anyways as all the bloat is getting annoying.
As for roms, I did consider CM so I'll give it a try! Thanks a lot for your suggestion
Arcsol said:
Hey thanks for the feedback! I did upgrade as a leap of faith and no real problems so far. And yeah, I decided to root now anyways as all the bloat is getting annoying.
As for roms, I did consider CM so I'll give it a try! Thanks a lot for your suggestion
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be aware that g4 has bootloop issues , and if unlocked bootloader then warranty doesnt cover it any more..
you can only downgrade to lollipop 10N or update to MM..
mine is locked and am on LP rooted//with xposed.
raptorddd said:
be aware that g4 has bootloop issues , and if unlocked bootloader then warranty doesnt cover it any more..
you can only downgrade to lollipop 10N or update to MM..
mine is locked and am on LP rooted//with xposed.
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brossovitch said:
Just bought one too. It's a great device. Mine came with 6.0 installed.
Updating is good, IMHO. I had 20i out of the box though..
You can unlock bootloader and root and even install ROMs!
I unlocked my bootloader and installed TWRP within the first hour of owning the device. Modified the stock 6.0 system to my liking and it runs fantastically. Very stable.
I also use CM13. I love Cyanogenmod. So I had to install it. CM13 is quite good and very snappy on this device. You lose some function of the camera and several features of the stock OS but you reap the benefits of amazing firmware and great options.. Honestly, it's a toss up between the 2 firmwares (stock & CM) for me. The camera takes great photos in CM13 but no manual mode or 4k video or laser focus apparently. But you will need to start with stock 6.0..
It really depends what you want out of your phone..
There's also many options for ROMs to install.
- LG-H811 via XDA app on CM13.
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I just got mine which is already on 6.0 and is 20i
I do worry about the bootloop issues that I saw many people got into that and turn the phone into trash, so is there any way I can use other rom or at least to take off those bloatware like T-mobile and amazon etc?
I have no idea how to do this kinda of things and read some post that all pretty confusing to me since they all put in some tech words like " SDK or ADB" in these steps
"4. Using the android issue SDK. Open a command window and link it to your SDK folder where ADB is located (typically Platform-Tools)
5. Once the Command window is linked to the folder, connect your device via USB and allow the connection. "
So if anyone can help me with as simple step by step ways to do it for new beginner that would be great.
Erick Cho said:
I just got mine which is already on 6.0 and is 20i
I do worry about the bootloop issues that I saw many people got into that and turn the phone into trash, so is there any way I can use other rom or at least to take off those bloatware like T-mobile and amazon etc?
I have no idea how to do this kinda of things and read some post that all pretty confusing to me since they all put in some tech words like " SDK or ADB" in these steps
"4. Using the android issue SDK. Open a command window and link it to your SDK folder where ADB is located (typically Platform-Tools)
5. Once the Command window is linked to the folder, connect your device via USB and allow the connection. "
So if anyone can help me with as simple step by step ways to do it for new beginner that would be great.
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am also worried.. thats why i have bootloader locked.. am itching to unlock it... but in case of bootloop we need the moddified TOT file but it doesnt support USA phones.. they said to change name with hex editor program... one guy tried it and it bricked phone... if we had a working file for our h811 i would unlock it.. flash file ..try the relocking bootloader command and flash stock firmware and send to LG ... but no one has made moddified TOT or have make a video of relocking bootloader... i only see a thread that confirms it can be done...
do not update new 20o its antirollback V3.. youll be stuck in it for ever..
on 20i MM you cant unless you unlock bootloader....
but on LP 10n yes you can root it... and remove all crap..
20i MM and LP 10n its antirollback V2 you can switch to them .. lower then that will brick phone..
i could help.. if you want to use LP 10n.. to root.. as unlocking bootloader i have no idea...
LOL same here am not good a commands and adb shell stuff... but reading carefully and if doubt ask, then i can be done..
I just got this phone as well, I have heard that the last run units have the bootloop issue fixed but not sure if that is just LG propaganda. I got one manufactured April 2016 and it was the last one any of the stores local to me had in stock brand new in box. I mean I've only had it for a day and it already has 20o on it so hopefully I'm good. I have jump so it really only needs to last a year anyway.
scottyd035ntknow said:
I just got this phone as well, I have heard that the last run units have the bootloop issue fixed but not sure if that is just LG propaganda. I got one manufactured April 2016 and it was the last one any of the stores local to me had in stock brand new in box. I mean I've only had it for a day and it already has 20o on it so hopefully I'm good. I have jump so it really only needs to last a year anyway.
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some new phone have gotten bootloop.. and dont downgrade your phoen if on 20o its antirollback V3. you stuck there..
**I have a quick question about 20o since I'm seeing conflicting information on the forum: can we root/unlock bootloader if we're on 20o?
I see plenty of testimony for 20i though.
Astroballs said:
**I have a quick question about 20o since I'm seeing conflicting information on the forum: can we root/unlock bootloader if we're on 20o?
I see plenty of testimony for 20i though.
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Yeah you can. I'm doing it to mine tonight. I legit cannot stand the ads in my apps...
scottyd035ntknow said:
Yeah you can. I'm doing it to mine tonight. I legit cannot stand the ads in my apps...
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Yeah, ended up finding a method. I played too much with it though and now I'm having issues connecting to my LTE network. Oh well, live and learn I guess.
I doubt I'll do more than root and then use root explorer to force disable any apps I can't do normally. I get 7GB of free tethering per line with T-Mo as well so I don't even need a rom for the tether hack although if I start flying again and use my LTE as my internet source I might then... I routinely used over 100GB a month when I had verizon unlimited a few years ago and was flying.