Just ordered my moto X on Verizon waiting anxiously to arrive. I'm upgrading from a rezound. I love flashing Roms and try all different custom Roms devs put for us to play with. My only concern is that I don't see a lot of development for the phone I mean Official development, such CM, slimbean, PAC, aokp, carbon and so on. This is a well known device, is there something on the code that is hard to develop Roms for it. I'll appreciate any feedback.
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sorullo_xgrx said:
Just ordered my moto X on Verizon waiting anxiously to arrive. I'm upgrading from a rezound. I love flashing Roms and try all different custom Roms devs put for us to play with. My only concern is that I don't see a lot of development for the phone I mean Official development, such CM, slimbean, PAC, aokp, carbon and so on. This is a well known device, is there something on the code that is hard to develop Roms for it. I'll appreciate any feedback.
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Locked bootloader on two major carriers+The phone is just about perfect with stock.
I gave up worrying about development and started just enjoying the phone for the awesome device it already is.
Thanks I have no doubt is a great stock running phone. Is just always nice running all those great custom Roms and all the extra staff they offer
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only thing i wish i could do is block ads. i never really used root except for TiBackup and Ad Blockers. i used to pound my Windows Phone with ROMs and when the D1 came out it was eye opening. I never wanted to ROM again. then the D2 came. ugh. then the D3... double-ugh. now that i have the X, i'm happy to have a near-nexus device.
I'm reading all over the soak test is about 4.4 kit Kat on big red that's sounds promising and I think I just came in to the moto x party on time
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There is no need for dev imo.
This phone runs great and the minor things can be fixed with xposed.
The only thing i kinda miss is halo but i can live without it or could use a third part app for it.
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I have to agree with just about everyone else. I've always been a crack flasher. But I honestly feel this phone is almost PERFECT as is!
Also somewhat of a recovering crack flasher (coming from a GNex). At this point, I think Active Notifications and Touchless controls outweigh the urge to flash or even root. Even the Kit Kat itch is somewhat muted. Moto did an amazing job and all the people I've shown the features to seem to think so too.
First off, let me preface this by saying that I appreciate all of the hard work and time by the devs/volunteers here, and they give us some pretty cool things.
It just seems that no matter what rom I try, it has a bug or 2 that may not keep me from enjoying my phone, but it keeps creeping. Even the so-called stable KK still has growing pains. Is it possible for a rom to be completely stable? (aka, at least as stable as stock) Or is the nature of roms always going to be a bit behind from a standpoint of stability?
I have yet to try a rom (been doing this for 3 yrs) that has been 100% (stock) stable. I can use most roms just fine though, and again, this is not a slight on the devs and those who work hard. But let's be honest, an already flawed Lollipop must be a pain to get make a custom rom from. Am I alone? Btw, I'm back on stock for now, as it works fine. But will be waiting patiently for the awesome devs to figure it out. (and yes, I realize there must be testing for things to get better)
This is why I'm done with custom ROMs. I get all I need from stock KK + Xposed. Haven't flashed a ROM (as a daily driver) in almost 2 years.
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This is why I'm done with custom ROMs. I get all I need from stock KK + Xposed. Haven't flashed a ROM (as a daily driver) in almost 2 years.
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Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
It's not soo much the roms. Stock lollipop is bugged from Google as it's relatively new so hasn't had everything ironed out yet like the older KK
wolfen69 said:
First off, let me preface this by saying that I appreciate all of the hard work and time by the devs/volunteers here, and they give us some pretty cool things.
It just seems that no matter what rom I try, it has a bug or 2 that may not keep me from enjoying my phone, but it keeps creeping. Even the so-called stable KK still has growing pains. Is it possible for a rom to be completely stable? (aka, at least as stable as stock) Or is the nature of roms always going to be a bit behind from a standpoint of stability?
I have yet to try a rom (been doing this for 3 yrs) that has been 100% (stock) stable. I can use most roms just fine though, and again, this is not a slight on the devs and those who work hard. But let's be honest, an already flawed Lollipop must be a pain to get make a custom rom from. Am I alone? Btw, I'm back on stock for now, as it works fine. But will be waiting patiently for the awesome devs to figure it out. (and yes, I realize there must be testing for things to get better)
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imo yeah. tis why I went back to stock 4.4.4 and GravityBox. No issues since then. None. Zero. Roms not worth fiddling with IMO. too many bugs trying to figure out if it's the app, the kernel, the ROM...I will do custom kernels but...no more than that.
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It's not soo much the roms. Stock lollipop is bugged from Google as it's relatively new so hasn't had everything ironed out yet like the older KK
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Good point.
I think its all in what type of bugs you get. I've seen bugs even on stock roms, custom roms give you those options where stock falls short. I do however think Xposed is a good way to possibly fix some of those issues
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4 stock updates from Google within 3-4 months (and we still expect bugs...). How could we have 100% stable custom roms?
Anyways custom roms are stable enough to enjoy my phone and it's way better than stock
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Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
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I'm not bitter about it lol, just got tired of flashing new ROMs all the time. It's nothing against the devs, they do some really great work, I just now prefer the dependability of stock. It was the original Moto X that changed my habits.
It's software, by definition it will have bugs.
The question is whether or not you can live with a particular ROM's set of unique bugs.
I've been running an old (Oct. 2014) CM11 nightly because it mostly gives me what I want without undue grief (weird reboots, battery drain, etc).
It's far from perfect, it won't play nice 100% with my car head end just to list one thing (BT bug, seems to be fixed in CM12).
I play around with other ROMs using MultiROM, but always come back to the old CM11.
I'm quite happy there is such an assortment to try, imagine how unhappy you would be if there was only one and it had a major (in your opinion) bug.
I don't think it's possible to get rid of all bugs ever. Its an os that is working with constantly changing apps and devices. But, I use cataclysm as my dd with elementalx and I don't notice any bugs. Im sure they are there, they just don't affect me with my particular usage.
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Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
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I'm totally agree with @_MetalHead_. I've came to Nexus, because I was tired to flash my Xperias with custom ROMs an CMs., thought I still think that Sonys hardware is supperior than the LG and Acer one.
Sure that all of custom ROMs have bug or two. But that is because Google have all bunch off developers that are fully employed to make stock android. You are aware, that custom ROMs here are made by individuals or small group enthusiasts. And that is. As man grows, he more and more prefer bitter chocolate than the sweet one. Sweet one is for children. And offcourse, we both enjoy.
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I'm totally agree with @_MetalHead_. I've came to Nexus, because I was tired to flash my Xperias with custom ROMs an CMs., thought I still think that Sonys hardware is supperior than the LG and Acer one.
Sure that all of custom ROMs have bug or two. But that is because Google have all bunch off developers that are fully employed to make stock android. You should be aware, that custom ROMs here are made by individuals or small group enthusiasts. And that is. As man grows, he more and more prefer bitter chocolate than the sweet one. Sweet one is for children. And offcourse, we both enjoy.
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That's funny, I used to hate dark chocolate as a kid and now I prefer it.
They all have bugs. Every ROM I've used stock or custom has had bugs. Though staying stock or staying with the stable builds by the big name teams yielded the most stable experience for me. If someone flashes weeklies/nightlies and does not expect a bug or two they're doing it wrong. Main thing is finding something you as a user can live with.
It's funny that I just opened XDA 5 minutes ago to search for people's opinions about completely stable custom roms and I immediately came across this thread. I guess I will keep my phone stock and try Xposed for the first time when it's available.
I was done with flashing and experimenting with my Galaxy S2 a while ago after I realized there wasn't a perfect rom. But it's tempting though now I have a Nexus phone..
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I wondered about this, reading about what devs have deal with what googles supplies over time.
I tried Cataclysm lollipop and that's really close to being a solid rom but the bugs from google really make it frustrating to use as a daily rom, poor ram management and lockups, the inabilty to multi task without redrawing.
from a consumers point of view you expect lollipop to be an improvement over kitkat,
Switched back to kitkat and didn't realised how good and battery friendly It is.
This is why I stayed with nexus,the closet thing to a stable phone, will wait for 5.1 before I update.
Yes they are. In the lollipop updates on unofficial cm roms I'm still getting camera bug and the voip bug where I can't be heard on a headset. They appear after a few hours to weeks. Happend on a nighty today so Sent logcat in. Lollipop shouldn't have been released in the mess it's in. It's laughable that a couple of pple cherry picking from roms will do anything other than incorporate the bugs. There is a Golden rule here # devs can do no wrong and you can't put them down# cherry pickers are not developing anything imo. They merge others work, sometimes producing a better rom than the original, granted, but fixing problems. They have no idea 90%of the time. 10%are more skilled. But if google with hundreds of coders can't get it right what chance have independent roms? Look at the official lollipop CM. Still on nightlys and will be when 5.1 comes.
I run roms until a bug crops in and won't go which breaks something I need. Them on to the next. Bigsys?? K K roms were the closest to perfection. Fast and fluid.
Kernels is another thing, for another day..
While they may be less than perfect, from what I've been reading the Nexus 5 may be skipping 5.1 and going directly to 5.2
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People are less than perfect by nature so that being said ,art imitates life as.
well as android 5.0 and above
From my point of view, even the stock ROM has its own flaws and sometimes it gets resolved a few revisions/versions later. On a custom ROM, it tends to be resolved pretty quickly provided the developer is actively monitoring user feedback and supporting it.
I'll usually only look for custom ROMs which focuses on staying as stock as possible while improving its speed and stability, I'll try to stay away from ROMs that offers a lot of other additional features which may or may not break another thing or two.
I'm looking for functionality, little or no bugs, I am looking to stick as close to stock as possible with the option to customize if I wanted to. I know there are a ton of ROMs and I could spend ages scouring them for the one that might be right for me.
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I'm looking for functionality, little or no bugs, I am looking to stick as close to stock as possible with the option to customize if I wanted to. I know there are a ton of ROMs and I could spend ages scouring them for the one that might be right for me.
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Did you install twrp also? You will need that to flash anything... might want to back up what you currently have before flashing also. If you like the stock feel, you can always wait until xposed comes out of alpha and start your customizing with it too.... lots of good info here if your not familiar with it. As far as UI is concerned you don't necessarily have to flash a custom rom, you always try a few different launchers on for size first.... Nova is pretty popular apex is another.... I am using action 3 right now which I like...
I would suggest clean ROM for a very stock like experience and then install MCR mod pack. This is my setup and I love it.
Cleanrom and sinless. Both stockish and super stable.
Stock. If you're not going to try for yourself, then you shouldn't go sheep.
OP you should really look around the development forums, you can't expect what works for other people to work for you as well. Usually down the line, you'll have a question and you'll want to be searching for the answers, not to ask others for the answer when the answer to your question has already been answered.
Everything in life, you can't just ask for it. Similarly to your decision to purchase what car, what college you want to apply to, etc... all of that you can't just ask someone. That's something for you to determine for yourself. Except the difference here is that all ROMs and kernels are free, be adventurous and try them all out (or at least the ones you found interest into).
My recommendation to this is to look at ROMs based on the following criterias,
- Popularity... how popular is the thread? Why is it popular?
- How frequently does it get updated? Do I like to flash ROM updates daily/weekly?
- Read the last couple of pages (or skim) and see what other users have been saying about the ROM
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I'm looking for functionality, little or no bugs, I am looking to stick as close to stock as possible with the option to customize if I wanted to. I know there are a ton of ROMs and I could spend ages scouring them for the one that might be right for me.
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Euphoria OS
Parandroid Android
LiquidSmooth
Chroma
Bliss Pop
SlimLP
Dirty Unicorns
And there will be always the buggy Cyanogenmod :silly:
I run Paranoid Android and FAUX kernel with the recommended faux settings and love it.
Everyone will have different taste nobody is the same I use euphoria its like the best ROM I ever used since custom Roms were out
I'm curious what ROM you guys are using?
I have a non-branded N6 that I'm giving to the lady and I'd like a ROM with LED function and basically stock otherwise. Bells and whistles are fine, but she tends not to use them.
I was running Scott's ROM, but he's no longer developing for the N6.
Any input would be much appreciated, TIA.
Chroma?
Chroma looks good so far, there are so many ROMs for this device it's gets a little time consuming looking through them all.
hah i personally use a vzw nexus and like the Z international 5.1.1 build, radio, and bootloader. stock rocks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3078629
It's all just an illusion
I've been out of the custom ROM news for almost 8 months. Currently running stock lollipop on a XT1053 with an Unlocked bootloader. The phone is already rooted with TWRP installed.
Basically can anybody who's been using a custom ROM chime in and let me know how it's going and if there are any bugs? I'm looking for something stable, bluetooth and GPS is a must. Looking for speed (my phone is finally starting to show it's age) and battery life the same or better than stock.
So Kernels... I used to flash them on my OG Droid 1. It was easy, flash it and it works. Select governer settings in the ROM. Is it the same thing on these newer phones too?
Welcome aboard ... even though development for our beloved Moto X is winding down, there are still some decent choices. I am a minimalist, so I use Megatron's AOSP rom. It is very quick and responsive ... haven't found any bugs to speak of. It actually makes the device feel like a mini nexus. Good luck with whatever you choose.