I just read the XDA article for the Z5 Premium and how it switches automatically between 1080p and 4k resolution when it sees fit. I think this is an excellent idea for developers to implement into their ROMs. Why don't we have such a feature? Or even a simple toggle that we can select that would change the build.prop or something to switch between QHD and 1080p? Would it be too hard to included or something?
Just wondering, its a really neat feature.
Nick
Because there's little to no benefit for dropping down to 1080 on this device
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I just read the XDA article for the Z5 Premium and how it switches automatically between 1080p and 4k resolution when it sees fit. I think this is an excellent idea for developers to implement into their ROMs. Why don't we have such a feature? Or even a simple toggle that we can select that would change the build.prop or something to switch between QHD and 1080p? Would it be too hard to included or something?
Just wondering, its a really neat feature.
Nick
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Probably no one has thought of it. By the way, turning pixels off to produce lower resolution on an AMOLED screen will make the screen much less bright. Perhaps not ideal on our already not bright screen.
Not sure what the build.prop has to do with this though?
akellar said:
Because there's little to no benefit for dropping down to 1080 on this device
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If it's done right, saving power for each pixel turned off and GPU working less to render images. I reckon it would make a bit of difference.
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Probably no one has thought of it. By the way, turning pixels off to produce lower resolution on an AMOLED screen will make the screen much less bright. Perhaps not ideal on our already not bright screen.
Not sure what the build.prop has to do with this though?
If it's done right, saving power for each pixel turned off and GPU working less to render images. I reckon it would make a bit of difference.
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It's been thought of, it's been done, and it's been shown to provide little to no benefit. If simply changing this isn't what you're referring to then it's not possible without reverse engineering display drivers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/change-nexus-6-to-resolution-1080x1920-t3016819
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It's been thought of, it's been done, and it's been shown to provide little to no benefit. If simply changing this isn't what you're referring to then it's not possible without reverse engineering display drivers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexu...x1920-t3016819
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I saw that thread a while back, but i'm talking about auto switching when the gpu demands for it and switching it back when you don't need it. I assume Sony is doing this because they saw an increase in battery life, so it may be worth it for us as well. Just another cool feature for ROM devs to add to their ROM. Or if they figure out a script or algorithm to make it automatic, then at least have a toggle or something in the quick settings. Or if we don't see any difference going to 1080p, then how about 720p? That has to do something, as it only would run half of the screen's pixels. Sony's screen is IPS, i believe, so we should benefit more than them because we also don't have to power a backlight as well as the pixels.
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I thought changing the native resolution had something to do with changing a setting in the build.prop. Maybe I misunderstood, as I didn't look too much into it at the time. Definitely didn't watch the youtube vid posted on that thread.
Nick
slosrtnick said:
I saw that thread a while back, but i'm talking about auto switching when the gpu demands for it and switching it back when you don't need it. I assume Sony is doing this because they saw an increase in battery life, so it may be worth it for us as well. Just another cool feature for ROM devs to add to their ROM. Or if they figure out a script or algorithm to make it automatic, then at least have a toggle or something in the quick settings. Or if we don't see any difference going to 1080p, then how about 720p? That has to do something, as it only would run half of the screen's pixels. Sony's screen is IPS, i believe, so we should benefit more than them because we also don't have to power a backlight as well as the pixels.
I thought changing the native resolution had something to do with changing a setting in the build.prop. Maybe I misunderstood, as I didn't look too much into it at the time. Definitely didn't watch the youtube vid posted on that thread.
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Changing the native resolution to 720p wouldn't result in pixels being turned off. The phone would just render images in blocks of 4 pixels. It would look like ass, but hey, battery life or something.
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It's been thought of, it's been done, and it's been shown to provide little to no benefit. If simply changing this isn't what you're referring to then it's not possible without reverse engineering display drivers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/change-nexus-6-to-resolution-1080x1920-t3016819
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I'm not sure about how that works, but it isn't turning off the pixels. As I said...
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If it's done right
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If the GPU thinks it is rendering to a HD display and the other pixels are turned off, then yes, it would make a bit of difference - but you would need to do both for any difference to be even slightly noticeable I bet.
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I flashed one of the Sense 3.0 roms today and found that the entire rom is slightly-off scale. The best way to see this is to add an analog clock, and it looks like it is flattened with the horizontal diameter longer than the vertical one. I did some calculations and this is because:
Code:
Kingdom: qHD = 960/540 = 1.777...
Incredible: 800/480 = 1.666...
So as you can see, the Kingdom is a bit "taller", and thus directly translating the images from the Kingdom will lead to the screen appearing a bit stretched horizontally. I don't have much experience, but I can tell that adjusting EVERY image in a rom is probably extremely difficult.
So why not, instead of messing with images, modify the display?
Obviously we can't make our displays taller into
Code:
1.777... * 480 = 854
854 by 480, so instead we can make our displays narrower. With some math:
Code:
800 * (540/960) = 450
so we can make our displays 800x450 by chopping off 15 pixels from each side with some software hacks. Also, we could get around images being distorted by setting LCD density higher so that the images would fit.
That last part with LCD density is a bit iffy, but I'm sure that you devs can get it to work.
(Sorry if this is in the wrong section. I thought it would fit better in Development than in General.)
pianoplayer said:
I flashed one of the Sense 3.0 roms today and found that the entire rom is slightly-off scale. The best way to see this is to add an analog clock, and it looks like it is flattened with the horizontal diameter longer than the vertical one. I did some calculations and this is because:
Code:
Kingdom: qHD = 960/540 = 1.777...
Incredible: 800/480 = 1.666...
So as you can see, the Kingdom is a bit "taller", and thus directly translating the images from the Kingdom will lead to the screen appearing a bit stretched horizontally. I don't have much experience, but I can tell that adjusting EVERY image in a rom is probably extremely difficult.
So why not, instead of messing with images, modify the display?
Obviously we can't make our displays taller into
Code:
1.777... * 480 = 854
854 by 480, so instead we can make our displays narrower. With some math:
Code:
800 * (540/960) = 450
so we can make our displays 800x450 by chopping off 15 pixels from each side with some software hacks. Also, we could get around images being distorted by setting LCD density higher so that the images would fit.
That last part with LCD density is a bit iffy, but I'm sure that you devs can get it to work.
(Sorry if this is in the wrong section. I thought it would fit better in Development than in General.)
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It won't work changing the density has been tried the only way to resize is to use the m10 decoder and go through trial and error..
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It won't work changing the density has been tried the only way to resize is to use the m10 decoder and go through trial and error..
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How does the m10 decoder work? Is it multiplatform or Windows/Linux only, and GUI or terminal? If it works on Mac and is terminal-based, I will be willing to M10 all day (through Automator).
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How does the m10 decoder work? Is it multiplatform or Windows/Linux only, and GUI or terminal? If it works on Mac and is terminal-based, I will be willing to M10 all day (through Automator).
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Using search I Found this
I just asked all my friends, and not one of them could even see it wasnt perfect circle...your talking less than a percent off here? is it big enough of a problem to warrant 40 hours of man power to fix?
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I just asked all my friends, and not one of them could even see it wasnt perfect circle...your talking less than a percent off here? is it big enough of a problem to warrant 40 hours of man power to fix?
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In my hour running Incubus' alpha, the bottom of the screen gets cut off in certain apps. I'd imagine the OP's suggested changes might fix that as well, and that's a dealbreaker for me.
Afteraffekt said:
I just asked all my friends, and not one of them could even see it wasnt perfect circle...your talking less than a percent off here? is it big enough of a problem to warrant 40 hours of man power to fix?
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Well, maybe 5%, but text is also wider than original. Very bad to my picky eyes.
Thats odd, Im comparing my phone (Sense 3.0) to my friends Stock Unrooted dinc, and i can barely see a different, except my images are higher quality.
So nobody can see it? Everything just looks so... off.
Sense 3.0 changed alot of the dimensions anyways, as I said most things are .9 images, and wont distory unless severe dimension changes, and .111 difference is pretty small.
I also noticed that text is wider-spaced. Can anybody see that?
I'm starting to think I'm paranoid...
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Using search I Found this
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"The devs have not made an official thread for their official release yet"
pianoplayer said:
"The devs have not made an official thread for their official release yet"
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Yea they did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060648
JoelZ9614 said:
Yea they did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060648
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Oh. Dang, it's an EXE. No automator unless someone wants to get this running in Crossover
Hi folks!
I was just wondering what is the best DPI settings for our note without hindering usability.
I would like a general opinion.
320dpi fanboys not welcome!
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i run gingerbread at 240dpi, and ICS alpha at 213dpi
seem to be the best ones for each android version
160dpi on GB and well on ICS makes everything a little bit to small
240dpi is perfect due to 90% of phones being stock at this.
*s-memo does mess up on any dpi not 320dpi so remember that
213dpi on ICS brings out full tablet mode but keeps the screen readable
Where can i find info on this ics alpha? id love to give it a shot.
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Yeah it's a Galaxy Note, are you jealous?
deymayor said:
Where can i find info on this ics alpha? id love to give it a shot.
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Here we go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423795
And keep this in mind:
KNOWN BUGS
Bluetooth is unstable. Don't rely on it just yet
Battery Usage doesn't work.
MTP Mode does not work. You need to push/pull files via adb
Camera doesn't work. Will be that way until we can get our hands on a ICS
leak for the Galaxy Note
Best regards
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I've set mine to 240, and loving it. I think it's the best setup for usability and aesthetic for the Gnote. I don't think I would ever go back to the default DPI after switching it to 240.
240
From my experience 240 is by far the best. It is too small for me, but I have poor eyesight (one of the main reasons for buying the Note). For most people it should be fairly easy to adjust too, I would think.
I'm sorry, how do you change DPI?
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I'm sorry, how do you change DPI?
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LCD Density Modder
240 dpi the best
cswithxda said:
I'm sorry, how do you change DPI?
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.birdapi.android.dpi
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Thanks guys. Another Root App Looks like I'll need to get into the water now.
BTW, what is the stock DPI? 284?
cswithxda said:
Thanks guys. Another Root App Looks like I'll need to get into the water now.
BTW, what is the stock DPI? 284?
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320, btw why u are so scared to root your phone?
Yeah 240dpi is pretty awesome so much screen to work with. Only problem is my eyes are kinda bad but I still love it regardless.
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cmon guys... DPI? that's for printers...
The correct term for screens is PPI, and, it's a physical characteristic of the screen, it's impossible to change a screen's PPI after it's manufactured.
The 320dpi, 240dpi thing that you talk about and which android refers to as lcd density internally is like a virtual pitch, the spacing between each pixel displayed on the screen.
That's why when you decrease the spacing between each pixel from 320 to 240 for example you get much more spacing on the screen cause more pixels fits on the screen.
So a more correct term than DPI or PPI is PITCH. (which isn't also 100% correct cause you can't also change pitch of a screen as it is fixed, but it's like a virtual pitch setting that we can change to "fool" the OS into displaying things as if the phone had a different screen installed)
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320, btw why u are so scared to root your phone?
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Because this device is kinda expensive for a Android new comer to try the water
I need to get familiar with all different kinds of commands more...
I wasn't really scared to root the phone as I may have sounded either
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Because this device is kinda expensive for a Android new comer to try the water
I need to get familiar with all different kinds of commands more...
I wasn't really scared to root the phone as I may have sounded either
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There are so many advantages to rooting. Imagine running your very own Windows PC without admin rights? That what carriers, and even vendors like Samsung, are trying to force on us. It's BS.
Elusivo said:
cmon guys... DPI? that's for printers...
The correct term for screens is PPI, and, it's a physical characteristic of the screen, it's impossible to change a screen's PPI after it's manufactured.
The 320dpi, 240dpi thing that you talk about and which android refers to as lcd density internally is like a virtual pitch, the spacing between each pixel displayed on the screen.
That's why when you decrease the spacing between each pixel from 320 to 240 for example you get much more spacing on the screen cause more pixels fits on the screen.
So a more correct term than DPI or PPI is PITCH. (which isn't also 100% correct cause you can't also change pitch of a screen as it is fixed, but it's like a virtual pitch setting that we can change to "fool" the OS into displaying things as if the phone had a different screen installed)
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And the point is?
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The point is that using a correct term to name something is sometimes not bad at all
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Even though lowering the "virtual density" to 240 will allow for more real estate on the display, I am not totally sure that the need to consult an ophalmologist won't increase likewise after that.
It is looking good when you take a snapshot though.
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And the point is?
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It was just a comment, maybe not the best place for it but the point is just to try and clear up some of the confusion that sometimes happens when ppl dive into the actual DPI meaning.
Elusivo said:
cmon guys... DPI? that's for printers...
The correct term for screens is PPI, and, it's a physical characteristic of the screen, it's impossible to change a screen's PPI after it's manufactured.
The 320dpi, 240dpi thing that you talk about and which android refers to as lcd density internally is like a virtual pitch, the spacing between each pixel displayed on the screen.
That's why when you decrease the spacing between each pixel from 320 to 240 for example you get much more spacing on the screen cause more pixels fits on the screen.
So a more correct term than DPI or PPI is PITCH. (which isn't also 100% correct cause you can't also change pitch of a screen as it is fixed, but it's like a virtual pitch setting that we can change to "fool" the OS into displaying things as if the phone had a different screen installed)
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Nah, i think we'll continue with the term "DPI" (Dots Per Inch) But you're right, there's a huge difference between DPI and PPI, but that's not the case since no one has used the term "PPI" here.
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
Robbilie said:
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
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There are actually very few 4.3"phones with 720p displays. So for this size screen it's actually a fairly typical resolution.
Change it by getting a different phone.
-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
i guess this is the most senseless answer but ok
Senseless, but also pointless
Robbilie said:
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
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Sincerely, having owned the galaxy nexus and galaxy s3 (much too large for my use), I do not see big differences in display quality ... maybe it's my eyes ... :laugh:
It really has the ideal size this device, as the Lumia 800, but with a 4.3 "screen ... :good:
Remember, this is a mid-range device as well. Mid range devices at this price point rarely have higher res screens. If ever.
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Remember, this is a mid-range device as well
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only in price!
I dont have updates ybout this but if it is possible to connect to a tv via hdmi, how would this resolution appear? xD
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i guess this is the most senseless answer but ok
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How is my answer senseless? Or do you not speak English? I directly answered your question.
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Robbilie said:
I dont have updates ybout this but if it is possible to connect to a tv via hdmi, how would this resolution appear? xD
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Your logic is strange. If its running through HDMI why would the phones screen matter?
It would be running at the TVs resolution.
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doesnt it still show to phones screen?
so it cant have annother ratio and such than the device has itself right?
never had a phone which was capable of hdmi output so i am just guessing...
Because of Google's takeover, Motorola was made to strip out all of its own software - and I'm told this is also the reason there's no HDMI/MHL socket. We're quite lucky that there's a memory card slot, although you can't copy apps (and app data) on to a memory card - so for some people that have loads of apps or use Spotify with offline music, it will be like the memory card doesn't exist.
I am not that upset, as I didn't really care for any of the Motorola apps/bloatware and quite like the fact that, bar the Motorola launcher, it's virtually like having a Motorola Nexus.
I actually don't connect my phones to a TV that often anyway. I've got tablets that can do that if I want (and I rarely do, despite always thinking I might). For watching photos and video on my (Smart) TV I use Wi-Fi, which is more convenient - and works just fine with the Razr i.
As for the screen resolution; having come from a Sony Xperia S with a 4.3-inch HD display (342PPI?), I was expecting to be unable to live with the screen on the Razr i - but that hasn't happened either. I am not sure what the PPI is now, but it's still high enough that I can't really make out the pixels - and even the PenTile matrix isn't an issue unless I get really close up. One exception is when you have thin(ish) text in colours like red, which can be a bit hard to read.
Anyway, 960x540 isn't a terrible resolution at all. 1280x720 would be nice, but I've come to learn that it isn't essential and I really am not sure why the industry is going to be rushing to do 1920x1080 next year on screens of only 5-inches or so. That will be a stupid pixels-per-inch density and you're now going beyond what the eye can make out anyway. First megapixels, then MHz and cores, and now PPI/DPI. Madness!
Razr i is 256DPI. It's not bad at all.
Not so far a GS3 which as 305DPI.. but cost lot much money
And qHD as the avantage to be Quarter the size of HD resolution, It fits great for diplaying HD content.
Robbilie said:
doesnt it still show to phones screen?
so it cant have annother ratio and such than the device has itself right?
never had a phone which was capable of hdmi output so i am just guessing...
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Well the galaxy s3 when connected switches to 1080p resolution. To fit the t.v.
Doesn't matter anyway since it has no HDMI.
And when Google took over Motorola they made someone else CEO but its still independent of Google a separate company.
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EDIT: Is it just me or is this normal for QHD or display of this size to exhibit scrolling blur. Whilst browsing using chrome or XDA app anytime I scroll I find that nothing is crisp it seems to be blurry until the scrolling comes to a stop. With this type of quality display I expected better, or am I just being too picky? Anyone else notice this or have the same issue.
The display is QHD (2k) nor UHD (4k). Also there is no scrolling blur for me when I use chrome or XDA. Did you change anything in the phone?
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The display is QHD (2k) nor UHD (4k). Also there is no scrolling blur for me when I use chrome or XDA. Did you change anything in the phone?
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My bad, lol... I haven't changed a thing. Adaptive brightness set at default ambient display switched on. No other changes, not rooted ATM, just stock??
I just got one with project Fi and coming from an HTC M8 I see the scroll blur. Makes me wonder about OLED TVs.
I've never seen this issue. Are you sure it is a display artifact and not some kind of rendering / performance improvement for scrolling in stock?
I'm using a custom rom.
What you could do is try and record your screen using an app like this...https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mistygames.screenrecord. If the issue doesnt appear on the video but does appear to your eyes, then it is the screen. If it is on the video, it is your software.
Like I said, never seen it myself, though that doesnt mean its not there,
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I just got one with project Fi and coming from an HTC M8 I see the scroll blur. Makes me wonder about OLED TVs.
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All TV technologies, when new are inferior to previous technologies that they replaced. The previous technology has always had time to develop. For instance, LCD TVs are pretty good now, but my 2006 and also 2009 LCD TV's have terrible motion "jerk". I still use that 2009 TV.
OLED have only been out what? 2 years on TVs? Yeah I wouldn't necessarily buy a 2 year old model.
If this issue is a screen issue, it's worth noting that the screen on the N6 is old OLED technology. It is not up to date, like the Samsung Note 4.
This started as a simple method to help or interest other's. But some how it turn into a disaster by the majority of the community/admins .. I'm explaining on how to do this ONE LAST TIME for the guy( jmwils3) I was going to reply to before my thread was closed down and to all the few people who were really interested in this but couldn't receive the info since I was silenced by Tin Foil Hat People/Fanboys .. For anyone else still interested in my insightful info or want to know more of my development in linux base operating systems, Please feel free to PRIVATE MESSAGE ME. Now on to the 2k Resolution/577 DPI Method for the M9>>
Requirements
-You must be rooted
-You must pick a different launcher than stock. (For me Nova doesn't work well. I use the Dodol Launcher and then resize Icons and widgets depending on preference)
-(AND REMEMBER RESIZE ONLY AFTER YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED YOUR CUSTOM RESOLUTION)
Method 1
Here I will only explain the most basic method/easiest way to do it..
-Download the app called "Resolution Changer Pro" <<DISCLAIMER>> I do not condone or represent this app in anyway, NOR do I even Know that developers of this app. In fact I don't even give two flying [email protected]#KS if you use another similar app to achieve the same goal( I just found that one works with my M9) <<Plus I felt I just had to say this disclaimer for the nimrods that will say"He's getting paid for advertising dissssssss!!" LMAO
-Next change the height to 2560 and the width to 1440 and lastly dpi to 577 and then hit Enable
-At this point everything going to get weird . But don't worry it's cool Next I need you to go in the same app and touch the "Fix navigation bars" )This is because us HTC one guys have the on screen buttons(Other phone users shouldn't do this)
- After that is will fast reboot and you're all done!. Just resize Like I said from your launcher and you will be straight.
Other Methods
There are other methods done by hard code and build prompts. But I will wait till people start asking me for a more stable/clean method without all the [email protected]#HING (But the method above should suffice)
OH! AND ONE MORE THING FOR "CONFIRMATION"
-Go to the youtube app and you now have the 1440p(2k) viewing option. And watch the BIG DIfference in detail! ( I choose to watch MKBHD videos since hes one of the few that upload videos in 2k to 4k on youtube)
You can also go to antutu benchmark app for the final results as well as I did in my OP.
http://i.imgur.com/oNObxMf.gifv
lol
You do realize that you aren't changing the resolution of the screen. That's NOT POSSIBLE.
What you're actually changing is the DPI. Basically you're tricking the software into thinking your screen is higher resolution. You're NOT changing the actual resolution of the screen. Take a microscope and examine the screen. There's no difference.
You get the 1440p option in youtube because the software THINKS you have a 1440p screen. You don't. It's like watching 4k movies on a 480p TV. It's possible, yes, but stupid.
@SynDevOut
aooga said:
http://i.imgur.com/oNObxMf.gifv
lol
You do realize that you aren't changing the resolution of the screen. That's NOT POSSIBLE.
What you're actually changing is the DPI. Basically you're tricking the software into thinking your screen is higher resolution. You're NOT changing the actual resolution of the screen. Take a microscope and examine the screen. There's no difference.
You get the 1440p option in youtube because the software THINKS you have a 1440p screen. You don't. It's like watching 4k movies on a 480p TV. It's possible, yes, but stupid.
@SynDevOut
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And I do assume you have a microscope huh? LOL
Tin Foil Hat People come in Numbers..
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And I do assume you have a microscope huh? LOL
Tin Foil Hat People come in Numbers..
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So explain to me why HTC didn't just put the worst resolution screen in the phone and just change it in the software? Why wouldn't every company do that to save money? Because it's not possible.
There are a set number of pixels on a screen. You cannot change that.
And you don't need a microscope. Just a macro lens and a good camera.
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So explain to me why HTC didn't just put the worst resolution screen in the phone and just change it in the software? Why wouldn't every company do that to save money? Because it's not possible.
There are a set number of pixels on a screen. You cannot change that.
And you don't need a microscope. Just a macro lens and a good camera.
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Same reason they underclock the CPU before launch(They were "Cautious"). And mind you, I never said we were changing the "PPI" in the OP. I said we were changing resolution and "DPI". BIG DIFFERENCE.... What method we are practicing here is basically changing the dimensions of the image of a 1080p display to achieve a 2k almost or the same equivalent in quality . It's true we known from mistakes in the past by doing this to dvd and upscaling them to HD can cause distort images sometimes. This s NOT the case with a "5 inch display" compared to a 42' inch Television. Hence why I also said In my OP that it will get weird after the resolution is set. But the launcher correct this issue easily simply as I stated before it's only 5 itchs we're dealing with. Maybe you should try it first before shunning it. The video playback is quite good.
Got a headache reading your posts. Thanks.
Why stop at 2k, why turn your 2k display into a 4k? Heck why not 8k?
xxquicksh0txx said:
Got a headache reading your posts. Thanks.
Why stop at 2k, why turn your 2k display into a 4k? Heck why not 8k?
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LOL, Don't mention it .. And I suppose it would depend on hardware. And there isn't an 8k option on the youtube app that I know of as of yet. Not even a 4k option. But like I said of what "I Know" .. Maybe you know something new that I don't
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LOL, Don't mention it .. And I suppose it would depend on hardware. And there isn't an 8k option on the youtube app that I know of as of yet. Not even a 4k option. But like I said of what "I Know" .. Maybe you know something new that I don't
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Hey, changing the native resolution of the screen is physically IMPOSSIBLE. It is built into the hardware. The screen itself supports up to 1920x1080 resolution. Anything you think you're changing it to is not real. You're just making things smaller on the screen to give it a 2k effect.
That would be like buying a 1080p television and saying you can change it to 2k or 4k. Why wouldn't everyone do that then?
You should go read about the differences between hardware and software.
nuggstein said:
Hey, changing the native resolution of the screen is physically IMPOSSIBLE. It is built into the hardware. The screen itself supports up to 1920x1080 resolution. Anything you think you're changing it to is not real. You're just making things smaller on the screen to give it a 2k effect.
That would be like buying a 1080p television and saying you can change it to 2k or 4k. Why wouldn't everyone do that then?
You should go read about the differences between hardware and software.
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AGAIN WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE "PPI"!!!!! .. Seriously if people keep addressing the SAME CONCERN insanely over and over AFTER I have explain it countless times in this thread and others, then I will just lock this one up. Since my goal of getting this useful information is already given out to the community as per attended. You and everyone concern in this issue you feel you're having; Should really read INTENSELY in the difference between "PPI" & "DPI" . And then read more on "Changing the dimensions of an image"
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AGAIN WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE "PPI"!!!!! .. Seriously if people keep addressing the SAME CONCERN insanely over and over AFTER I have explain it countless times in this thread and others, then I will just lock this one up. Since my goal of getting this useful information is already given out to the community as per attended. You and everyone concern in this issue you feel you're having; Should really read INTENSELY in the difference between "PPI" & "DPI" . And then read more on "Changing the dimensions of an image"
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So change your wording then. People who don't know better keep thinking that you're making the phone have a actual 2K display like the S6/M9+.
You're changing the DPI which can be done with a simple build.prop edit and has NOTHING to do with resolution.
aooga said:
So change your wording then. People who don't know better keep thinking that you're making the phone have a actual 2K display like the S6/M9+.
You're changing the DPI which can be done with a simple build.prop edit and has NOTHING to do with resolution.
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This.
aooga said:
So change your wording then. People who don't know better keep thinking that you're making the phone have a actual 2K display like the S6/M9+.
You're changing the DPI which can be done with a simple build.prop edit and has NOTHING to do with resolution.
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This.
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Really??!!, So this is your answers to both of your misunderstandings. Rather than making people understand what we are doing here....... You say these things, An rather because you do "NOT KNOW" what is going on this thread exactly. I said we're changing the "DPI" from this OP, "AND WE ARE". And you say that we are changing a DPI that can be simply done by build prompts, OMG You must have of miss my "Other Methods" options in my OP because you ALL obviously love to SKIP READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....... And this resolution talk; I hope you have enough knowledge. Because I will embarrass both of you here and now>>
Please don't make me come out of character. Because I will prove in FACTS of the IDIOTS you all are who MISUNDERSTAND and then COMPLAIN..
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Really??!!, So this is your answers to both of your misunderstandings. Rather than making people understand what we are doing here....... You say these things, An rather because you do "NOT KNOW" what is going on this thread exactly. I said we're changing the "DPI" from this OP, "AND WE ARE". And you say that we are changing a DPI that can be simply done by build prompts, OMG You must have of miss my "Other Methods" options in my OP because you ALL obviously love to SKIP READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....... And this resolution talk; I hope you have enough knowledge. Because I will embarrass both of you here and now>>
Please don't make me come out of character. Because I will prove in FACTS of the IDIOTS you all are who MISUNDERSTAND and then COMPLAIN..
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You need to take a chill pill or something.
Your wording is confusing. I believe their may be a language barrier issue... None of us have been rude, we suggested you change your wording and you're blowing it way out or proportion.
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Really??!!, So this is your answers to both of your misunderstandings. Rather than making people understand what we are doing here....... You say these things, An rather because you do "NOT KNOW" what is going on this thread exactly. I said we're changing the "DPI" from this OP, "AND WE ARE". And you say that we are changing a DPI that can be simply done by build prompts, OMG You must have of miss my "Other Methods" options in my OP because you ALL obviously love to SKIP READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....... And this resolution talk; I hope you have enough knowledge. Because I will embarrass both of you here and now>>
Please don't make me come out of character. Because I will prove in FACTS of the IDIOTS you all are who MISUNDERSTAND and then COMPLAIN..
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No one is being rude. Your title (and your other post) say that you can change the resolution of the phone. All I'm saying is that that's physically impossible. I'm not attacking you at all. You probably meant change the DPI only.
Also, you kept saying that the screen looks a lot better and videos look more clear. It would be the same as watching 4k movies on a 1080p TV.
If you want to provide facts, go for it. That's the point of this forum. If you know something, you're free to share it.
So you are increasing the resolution but not the PPI here!
How is that even possible?
Changing your DPI will not increase the resolution of your screen.
LOL
aooga said:
No one is being rude. Your title (and your other post) say that you can change the resolution of the phone. All I'm saying is that that's physically impossible. I'm not attacking you at all. You probably meant change the DPI only.
Also, you kept saying that the screen looks a lot better and videos look more clear. It would be the same as watching 4k movies on a 1080p TV.
If you want to provide facts, go for it. That's the point of this forum. If you know something, you're free to share it.
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My apologies, I simply took it the wrong way. And yes you can change the resolution. What you mean to say is we can not change the "Native Resolution" which I never said we were doing to begin with. Again "BIG DIFFERENCE"
And yes it looks better due to the fact of "Chroma Subsampling"
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You need to take a chill pill or something.
Your wording is confusing. I believe their may be a language barrier issue... None of us have been rude, we suggested you change your wording and you're blowing it way out or proportion.
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Yes as you can see from my reply above I apologize for the misunderstanding..
mm79k said:
So you are increasing the resolution but not the PPI here!
How is that even possible?
Changing your DPI will not increase the resolution of your screen.
LOL
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So you don't read all the "TWO" pages in this thread. And you have the nerve to be griping about an compliant/issue .. From what I'm told; XDA is suppose to almost embody of ALL the people that is going to "SEARCH" and "FIND" the "SOLUTION" to their "PROBLEM" / "CONCERN"
Just so you know the problem is starting due to the misleading title of your thread. You are in fact not increasing the screens resolution. You are downsampling in order to trick the GPU into displaying a higher resolution but the quality is simply not there.
When a display has native support for resolutions up to 1080x1920, you can use downsampling to send out a signal which tells your display to output a resolution of 1440x2560. HOWEVER, a typical display with a maximum resolution of 1080p has around 2 million pixels, while a 1440p/2k display has around 3.5 million.
Of course, downsampling does NOT increase the amount of pixels being displayed, that of course is physically IMPOSSIBLE. Your display CANNOT go beyond native display physical limitations determined by the screens ppi. All your method does is simply trick gpu to push fake 1440p resolution to your 1080p display. This cause compression to fit inside the screen. The effect it has is akin to zooming out on a lower resolution picture.
Also as other users posted, and is a 100% correct, you can change dpi through build.prop edit without all this other nonsense.
What are the default for the. M9? Did this and want to go back. It causes some issues with the camera.