note 5 upgrade - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Looking to upgrade to the NOTE 5. But not sure if it would be worth it yet. I do like the display and that is usually the biggest reason for me. NOTE 4 display still looks hot and roms for note 5 are starting to roll out. What do you think?

Depends. Do you value expandable storage, removable battery, and IR? If so then the note 5 would not be a good upgrade. I personally think the note 4 is still a top of the line device, its not even a year old yet. IMO the note 5 feels more like a sidegrade than an upgrade.

Do it battery sucks on the note 4 I get anywhere from 3-3 1/2 hours I'm upgrading to the note 5 cuz honestly the lack of sd storage and non removable battery actually sounds like a plus right now
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I'm actually getting the note 5 I was told you get twice the battery life compared to the note 4 so 6 hrs would be amazing lol
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Battery life depends on the user . 6hr sot is wishful thinking if you use your phone. If you don't do alot on your phone then i can see that but why would you buy a note . I rather get that new Huawei nexus at half the price. Anything over a 1,000 is just wasted money if you have a note 4 ,the note 5 is better but not 1,000 better no way.

kabuk1 said:
Depends. Do you value expandable storage, removable battery, and IR? If so then the note 5 would not be a good upgrade. I personally think the note 4 is still a top of the line device, its not even a year old yet. IMO the note 5 feels more like a sidegrade than an upgrade.
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i actually have to agree here, i upgraded to the note 5 for a total of 3 weeks, and i found that i REALLY missed having 140gb of storage on my device.
not to mention the ir remote for my tv and some other ir devices. im not sure how you getting 3h of battery life on the device though... i have CM12 on my n910w8 and i get home to a decent 35% at the end of the day with med heavy use. i can see if you are using gps then 3h would seem about right. i cant think of any other ways of how one would drain the battery so quickly.

I think people should start saying they "updated" to the 5 instead of "upgrading." We all know not all updates are upgrades. Lollipop 5.0.x is an example of that. It doesn't just extend to software either.
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yup i do value my sd card i think i will stick with note 4 for now

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I think people should start saying they "updated" to the 5 instead of "upgrading." We all know not all updates are upgrades. Lollipop 5.0.x is an example of that. It doesn't just extend to software either.
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Sidegraded & downgraded are also exceptional words for that pos phone as well
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Honestly without the SD Card and the battery makes it feel too much like the iPhone. If Galaxy phones are your thing go with the note 5, but at this point I would just get the iPhone. Samsung's trying so hard to COPY the iPhone why not just the original thing? lol
Really disappointed in the note 5, a lot of spen problems from what i hear as well.

Note 5 has no IR blaster - that I can live without. But no external microSD card and no removable battery? Sorry those are deal killers for me, I will not buy one because of this. Yes it would be nice to have the faster processor and the 4gig RAM instead of 3GIG rRAM does make it tempting ..plus it does have a better camera too. But these things ...at least for me...do not out weigh my need for microSD card and removable battery - so it's just not worth spending the money on it.

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[UPDATED PHONE] From Samsung Galaxy S2 to Nexus 4

Hello guys,
I just wanted to let you know that I've updated my phone, bought a brand new Nexus 4 and kept my Galaxy S2 in the closet
What do you thinks of this update? Worthy?
Here's some stuff I'll probably miss:
Removable battery
Expandable storage (I had 48gb in my S2, so my sd card has no use for now...)
Let me know what do you guys think.
Thank you very much, have a good day ahead.
That's funny, I'm doing the same thing and mine arrives today. I don't think I'll miss that stuff; I am not one to swap batteries, plus I only ever had a 4GB microSD. Perhaps you will get used to being more conservative with space.
Overall though, I think it's a huge update from the Galaxy s2, performance and looks-wise.
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I'm sure you will miss some of those things in your s2 but it is actually pretty easy to adapt to not having them. Storage is not an issue if you have WiFi at home. The battery does last for a while on this phone anyway.
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I had also S2. Only camera bothers me compared to S2.
@ korockinout13 I guess you are right, funny coincidence though.
@ eqjunkie829 I am quite a conservative person referring to "Storage is not an issue if you have WiFi at home." but I guess I will give it a shot!
Regarding the removable battery I will just miss it because whenever my S2 went buggy/crazy/laggy I just removed it and placed back again (especially when I had bootloops, if you know what I mean haha)
@ grisoxxl Isn't the quality better? Or the videos are just bigger in terms of size (GB)?
Thanks guys!
Years worthy
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PATRiOT96 said:
Hello guys,
I just wanted to let you know that I've updated my phone, bought a brand new Nexus 4 and kept my Galaxy S2 in the closet
What do you thinks of this update? Worthy?
Here's some stuff I'll probably miss:
Removable battery
Expandable storage (I had 48gb in my S2, so my sd card has no use for now...)
Let me know what do you guys think.
Thank you very much, have a good day ahead.
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I have both devices,currently using sgs2. Wifi is so bad on my N4 making it almost unusable.
korockinout13 said:
That's funny, I'm doing the same thing and mine arrives today. I don't think I'll miss that stuff; I am not one to swap batteries, plus I only ever had a 4GB microSD. Perhaps you will get used to being more conservative with space.
Overall though, I think it's a huge update from the Galaxy s2, performance and looks-wise.
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OT - Rise Against are an amazing band
Anyway, @ OP the N4 is a great device, you'll soon get used to not having those things or will find workarounds. You can simulate a battery pull by holding power down for around 10 seconds. You'll definitely need to manage your storage use quite carefully coming from a 48GB phone but it's not too bad once you do that. The video quality isn't better, it's one of the biggest downsides if you care about camera quality. The N4's camera isn't awful but it's far from being the best either. Regarding the most recent post I have no clue what you mean by WiFi being unstable seeing as mine is fine and it doesn't seem to be a commonly reported issue, but there is a patch to make it faster.
Great choice for an upgrade! and hope your going to love the nexus 4
i exchanged my galaxy s3 for the nexus 4
yes there will be a few things you are going to miss ( for me it was battery, sd slot, camera, )
buttttttt i grew to love this nexus
runs so much better and doesn't give me lag issues out of no where and the battery is amazing for the size of it also with this beast processor running inside this thing.
if you lasted with the s2 for a while im assuming, your going to hold onto this nexus for a while as well
congrats.
Is that an upgrade? I moved from Galaxy S3 i9300 and I say it was totally worth it. I miss USB otg though.
@ Nigeldg I already manage to sort out the store issue I will purchase a wireless sata compatible with android!
@ bodom_hc I want to keep it until Nexus 5 or Galaxy S5 comes out
@ Wololo7 Didn't get you with "Is that an upgrade?"..
Anyway, seems like I will be happy with it.
I went from an S2 to a N4 and I've never looked back. The camera isn't bad only time I've had a drop in quality is in really low light. No SD card doesn't bother me as I only have have basic games on my N4 and use my N7 for my mobile gaming needs.
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I'm still in two minds I have a unlocked s3 and just want rid now
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I've upgraded from S3.
The cons everyone knows... SD card, camera, FM radio, etc. But I'm happy with it.
I also have problems with wifi speeds. When I try SpeedTest I get full speed (50mbps), but when I download something from browser or tapatalk I get a few kb/s. That's weird. Same behavior in nexus 4 and nexus 7. Cyanogen (n4) and Stock (n7).
maybe it is the server of the download service remember not everything is going to give everyone fastest speed
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Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs Galaxy Note 3

Covered Design, Features, What was removed as well as added and a Speed Test. Is it worth the jump from the Note 3 to the Note 4?
After using the Note 3 as my main device for a year then getting the Note 4, I like to say that there is a difference and it feels refreshed. With the 1440p Display, New Touch Wiz Ui, and a few new features. Now I did notice that there are somethings missing from the Note 4 that the Note 3 had. There are also something that have been moved and changed, like the Pen Window feature is now used with the Multi-Window feature on the Note 4. Spec wise there is not a massive push but its still a beast of a phone. Watch the Full comparison below and let me know what you think. Is it worth the jump from the Note 3 to the Note 4?
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I did not think it would be at first, but my phone whore personality came out.
The display, camera, video, metal, and going no contract lm there.
With tomorrow being the day, I doubt I will sleep much tonight. LOL
Dang being a tech freak sucks and is expensive!
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
Am sticking with my 3. It has massive Dev support, so it's rooted and pretty much hacked to the max. I have a 128gb sd card in their, so have games on the sd card, music everything. I think had Samsung probably added more ram then maybe they would have had my money. I will however probably get the 4 for my wife though.
marvi0 said:
Am sticking with my 3. It has massive Dev support, so it's rooted and pretty much hacked to the max. I have a 128gb sd card in their, so have games on the sd card, music everything. I think had Samsung probably added more ram then maybe they would have had my money. I will however probably get the 4 for my wife though.
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I am sure you will get some hands on time with her phone though huh? LOL
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
128gb ?! Isn't the max supported 64?
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Most modern mid end to high end smartphones can handle 128GB MicroSDs with no problem.
I plan on getting a 128GB MicroSD for my Note 4
Btw, thanks OP for the info, it will help a lot of people. I came from a Galaxy S4 so the Note 4 is a huge jump for me loving this beast!
So far I miss few things from Note 3.
1. Cannot add app shortcuts at the bottom of lock screen. It is right now fixed to default camera app
2. There was "edit after capture", no longer there, have to swype down notification and click 'edit'
3. No software "Air Command" shortcuts available in the market yet
4. Qi receivers are hell expensive
5. Most irritating : no longer SD write access (searching root threads) -> Edit: Just rooted using chainfire's method, tripped KNOX, whatever!! I never had to root Note 3. Google deserves kick in the ass for disabling SD write.
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128gb ?! Isn't the max supported 64?
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They can support up to 2tb storage!!! Try using an otg cable and hooking up an external hdd or flashdisk.
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Definately worth the upgrade if you can swallow the price (I buy sim free as don't want to be tied into a 2yr contract thanks!). I upgraded from the Note 3 and so many aspects have improved. The camera, battery, style and s pen are all better.
Is it worth the money? Compared to an IP6 definately. Compared to a OnePlus One which is under half the price....well the screen on that isn't as good - I mean sensitivity not pixels. The N4 is so much more complete but whether its worth the additional £350 is down to you personally.
If you have the Note 3 and don't have the cash to upgrade - don't worry about it. Not worth breaking the bank over! The N3 is a fine device and not far off as powerful.
The N4 has some very nice enhancements though, and you'll not be disappointed if you do buy it. Every note model I've owned (all of them) have impressed. I've tried other phones and always end up back on the note.
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Definately worth the upgrade if you can swallow the price (I buy sim free as don't want to be tied into a 2yr contract thanks!). I upgraded from the Note 3 and so many aspects have improved. The camera, battery, style and s pen are all better.
Is it worth the money? Compared to an IP6 definately. Compared to a OnePlus One which is under half the price....well the screen on that isn't as good - I mean sensitivity not pixels. The N4 is so much more complete but whether its worth the additional £350 is down to you personally.
If you have the Note 3 and don't have the cash to upgrade - don't worry about it. Not worth breaking the bank over! The N3 is a fine device and not far off as powerful.
The N4 has some very nice enhancements though, and you'll not be disappointed if you do buy it. Every note model I've owned (all of them) have impressed. I've tried other phones and always end up back on the note.
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Just quoting you.
Note 4 is not worth abandoning the note 3..
UPDATE: After almost two weeks of use, I feel as if my Note 4 has more problems than my Note 3. It crashes and lags worst than what my Note 3 ever did on a bad day.
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UPDATE: After almost two weeks of use, I feel as if my Note 4 has more problems than my Note 3. It crashes and lags worst than what my Note 3 ever did on a bad day.
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I agree! I'm seriously thinking about buying another Note 3 and selling my Note 4, or making a trade with someone.
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Am I too poor to be excited about the Note 4?

OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?
I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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I pulled the triger and after 2 years I switched from Note 2. You right, it is not a big jump like before ( originally switched from HTC G2 to Note 2 ) but there is not coming back to 720p screen for me. This one is a beast.
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I had the note 2 for a full year right when it came out. I sold it after a year to get the g2. After a year with the g2, I'm so glad to be back to the note family, specifically the note 4. This phone is a beast, I can easily see myself keeping this one for a full 2 years!! It's definitely an upgrade over the note 2 by leaps and bound.
keithfrombm said:
i have mucho respect for you! I wish i could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or i fried rooting it). I actually liked my lg g2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, i'm not impressed with my note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that i really do like about it: Samoled. The samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My g2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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i am sorry to say this but you are lying! Troll alert!
I bought the note 2 when it came out and loved it but was getting some usb charge board issues about a month before the note 4 came out, i decided to pre order the note 4 and got it on release day and it's a superb phone the best I've ever owned and a good upgrade from the note 2 I think personally.
The screen alone is amazing.
@Rudy:
What specifically is he lying about?
Some people have reported battery issues, and it is a known fact that TouchWiz is somewhat laggy compared to other launchers/themes. Although it has been getting a lot better in recent versions and IME, I have almost no lag on my phone. Also if you check around quite a few people have been having an issue with their camera and focus issues.
His personal experiences with various phones are his own. Unless you were there to witness his usage of the phones.
Calling someone a troll and a liar without backing it up with verifiable facts from credible industry sources is in very poor form and very un-cool.
So either provide some backup with verifiable links to industry sources to prove him/her wrong, or quietly go on with your life and leave others be.
i upgrade on a 5 yr cycle. went to the note 4 910u from a nokia n8.
camera is slightly better (16mpx ois vs 12mpx), software is much better compared to symbian, storage is more (160GB vs 40GB), wireless charging and bluetooth and screen are better, lag is gone once i enabled dev mode with animations off.
i would not upgrade on less than a 4yr or 5yr cycle. thats the best ROI. if you have a note 2 stay with it until 2017/18.
Lol I cant stay on one phone more than 5 months
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keithfrombm said:
I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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Well it isn't the same for everyone. For me battery is awesome on this phone 6h non stop heavy usage, over 2 days on moderate - this is double comparing to my previous phone which was Nexus 5. Touchwiz is s#*@= comparing to Google launcher tough, went straight to nova. Basically my opinion is: brilliant piece of hardware and very, very bad software. I hope someday we will get pure android rom.
jeanclaudevandamme said:
OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?
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The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.
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The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.
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I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.
torquadon said:
I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.
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Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)
actually from looking at some rumours about upcoming phones, I'd be interested in the next-gen Sony Xperia Z Ultra, the so rumoured Z4 ultra, with 6.4" screen and 1440p and stylus support. but that's just vapourware atm, CES will tell.
funnily enough, i just want a bigger screen in a new phone, like that is literally the top priority. the current z ultra is a year old so its processors/res etc rules it out. though it's not too expensive to buy outright now on ebay.
I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?
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I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?
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Lollipop on your note 2? Can you provide a link?
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Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)
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I didn't check it for long time and didn't know that Sony resigned from wireless charging cover. My bad.
I'm not sure you understood his post. He didn't say that there is no difference, neither I did. All I am saying is, I believe his approach is more sensible. According to you 1gb ram and wireless charger is worth 600GBP, and for me it is not. Amount of people who will need that extra ram is relatively small, I updated from nexus 5 only because I could, not because it was by any means necessary. Both phones are more then capable of running any app from Google play smoothly, many of them would work better on nexus for that simple reason that Samsung apps use huge amount of ram/cpu and unless u root there is no way to disable them.
I was on the Note 3 and didn't had any plans to get the Note 4 as I thought it wasn't worth upgrading to.
But I haven't regret it a second! The quality of the phone is amazing! Better screen and better battery life. Love it!
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I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.
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I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.
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This plus imagine Note 4 + Gear VR + Gear S! Although Gear VR will not allow you to call or text when the user is wearing it, with Gear S, you could do that by talking to S-Voice! I have not tried this out personally - because I am poor, but it should work... right? :S That and advanced s-pen :3
But for the whole upgrading thing: If I were to upgrade my phone today - or within the year, I would go with the Note 4. If I were patient enough to wait a few more months, well, then clearly I wouldn't get the note 4 S: The way I see it though, technology has been upgrading crazy fast so it's no big deal if you're out of the loop lol
edit: I am biased though since I already own the note 4 + VR

Should I?

Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
I think you should choose on your own instead of making such a silly thread.
PunishedSnake said:
Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
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No way keep the nexus. It is the lead flagship device of all times. Note 4 doesn't last like nexus.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
PunishedSnake said:
Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
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That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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In 2016 it will be note 6 time. Everything will be outdated by then
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
inconceeeivable said:
That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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What sot do you get?
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In 2016 it will be note 6 time. Everything will be outdated by then
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
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True, it will be dated, but Nexus phones age much better. The Nexus 5 is still a damn decent phone and gets plenty of support. There are days when I miss it vs. the Note. (Battery isn't great though in comparison.)
My point is that given their track record, if Lollipop is taking this long on the latest and greatest Note, imagine how long updates are going to take when they care even less a couple Android point releases down the line.
And I get 4.5-6 on a good day with the Note, and I'm actually pretty happy with that all things considered. The idle time is phenomenal as well. Three days of light use is not unusual for me.
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That's funny...I'm getting pretty sick of waiting for a Lollipop update that's probably going to be almost identical to what I'm already running and and I've never hit near 8 hours SOT. Want to trade lol?
Note 4 is awesome, but I think you'll be singing a different tune in 2016 when the Note is three updates behind.
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If you want Lollipop flash it there are a bunch of good AOSP ROMS.
The key differences is the screen and the camera. Both are better on the Note 4.
As far as support goes if you root your phone support will last a long time, my Note 2 is already on AOSP Lollipop 5.0.2
As long as the phone has root, don't pick a phone based on software, you can flash whatever you want on it, pick a phone based on hardware.
#JustMy2Cents
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If you want Lollipop flash it there are a bunch of good AOSP ROMS.
The key differences is the screen and the camera. Both are better on the Note 4.
As far as support goes if you root your phone support will last a long time, my Note 2 is already on AOSP Lollipop 5.0.2
As long as the phone has root, don't pick a phone based on software, you can flash whatever you want on it, pick a phone based on hardware.
#JustMy2Cents
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I'm reluctant to try AOSP. I owned a Note 2, and CM was buggy as hell.
if your only purpose of switching is SOT let me tell you , you'll be quite disappointed.
You have a lot of people posting 8-9hrs of SOT but not matter what I try what rom i try what kernel i try there's no such thing happening for me.
You literally have to just have the phone on, with screen on without any timeout, doing absolutely nothing.
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if your only purpose of switching is SOT let me tell you , you'll be quite disappointed.
You have a lot of people posting 8-9hrs of SOT but not matter what I try what rom i try what kernel i try there's no such thing happening for me.
You literally have to just have the phone on, with screen on without any timeout, doing absolutely nothing.
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That and the slightly smaller frame, band 12
masri1987 said:
if your only purpose of switching is SOT let me tell you , you'll be quite disappointed.
You have a lot of people posting 8-9hrs of SOT but not matter what I try what rom i try what kernel i try there's no such thing happening for me.
You literally have to just have the phone on, with screen on without any timeout, doing absolutely nothing.
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Lol
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
I personally would go with the note 4, i had the nexus 6 and wasn't impressed by it one bit, had a couple cool features but not compared to this. However, updates will be way faster on the nexus then on this...but the screen on note 4 in my opinion is way superior, i had to keep the brightness at like 85 percent to be able to see everything good, on here, i keep it at 25. Both fast though!
It took them a bit of time to work out all the bugs on CM on the Note2 but once they did it was WAY better than the stick ROM. CM11 on my Note 2 is the best it had ever run. WAY better than TW, better battery, and much faster.
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shook187 said:
I think you should choose on your own instead of making such a silly thread.
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I don't see this thread/question as a silly one. He's unsure, wants input from others, posts it in a general Q&A section. Seems legit.
PunishedSnake said:
Thinking of returning my nexus 6 and getting a note 4....what do yall think?
jealous of 8-9hr sot!
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To be honest, the only 3 reasons I went with the N4 were 1) the camera (now not so sure), 2) expandable storage through SD card (I could've just picked up the 64GB N6 and be ok) and 3) the pen.
P.S. @PunishedSnake Please refrain from the click-baiting thread names - clearly state what your question is in as much detail as possible in the subject of the thread to avoid members to have to click on it to find out what it's about.
The Note 4 is hands down better than the Nexus 6 when it comes to HARDWARE. Better camera, better screen, better battery life, IR blaster (remote control), comfortable to hold in hand, removable battery, expandable storage, etc. The only reason I would get the Nexus 6 is because of official support by Google as far as stock Android is concerned. Also the Note 4 will have a better resale value than the Nexus 6 if you decide to sell it. If you ever feel the need for a Nexus like experience with the Note 4 you can always root it to be more Nexus like.
I'd go ahead and return the nexus 6. And get the note 4.
I gave my nexus 6 to my mom.
Plus zerolemon
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I'm personally torn.
Having had both, and ultimately sticking w/ the Note 4 only because I still have a Nexus 5 to play around with, I'm just not in love with the Note 4. It's the first phone in the Note series I've owned, and while I enjoy the multi-view and S-Pen capabilities the best, both features are negated when running a non-TouchWiz ROM. Of course, that's to be expected, and not necessarily deal breakers, but I'm indifferent as to how long I'll stick around w/ the device.
To be fair, I should note that I was one of those who got a phone out of the "bad batch" w/ the camera issues, and didn't return it w/i 14 day window nor submit for RMA. Again, for what I personally use the phone for, even that isn't a deal breaker. And to be honest, the Lollipop based ROM I'm running now does hum like a butterfly and have NO complaints about battery life.
Depending on what's on the horizon in a few months, I may utilize the JUMP program or sell outright. Nice phone, for sure, but I think coming from a Nexus, I may be a bit underwhelmed. IMO, if you've come from TouchWiz, or are looking at the camera specs, go w/ the Note 4 and you won't be disappointed.

Is it good to buy Note4 now?

I want to buy a new phone and shortlisted note4 and moto x style. I am not sure is there are any issues with note4. If there are any can you guys please let me know.Currently its 29900 http://www.flipkart.com/samsung-gal...955885011847146&srno=p_2&otracker=from-search.
alien0101 said:
I want to buy a new phone and shortlisted note4 and moto x style. I am not sure is there are any issues with note4. If there are any can you guys please let me know.Currently its 29900 http://www.flipkart.com/samsung-gal...955885011847146&srno=p_2&otracker=from-search.
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Why note 4 now ? There are so many other devices in this price range.
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taksheelj said:
Why note 4 now ? There are so many other devices in this price range.
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can u tell me any good device as better that note4 in this price range
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It's always a good idea to buy a Note 4, provided that you absolutely need the Spen. If you don't, then maybe you should look for something else.
But if you intend to use the Spen extensively, then Note 4 looks even better than the Note 5. For a relatively affordable price, you get replaceable battery, memory slot and you can install a Note 5 rom, making it absolutely the same in the software sector. The Note 5 has a much more capable hardware on paper, but probably you won't notice that in everyday use and in most situtations.
The deciding factor is the Spen. Do you need it? If yes, get it. If you don't, look for something else.
Melissakis said:
It's always a good idea to buy a Note 4, provided that you absolutely need the Spen. If you don't, then maybe you should look for something else.
But if you intend to use the Spen extensively, then Note 4 looks even better than the Note 5. For a relatively affordable price, you get replaceable battery, memory slot and you can install a Note 5 rom, making it absolutely the same in the software sector. The Note 5 has a much more capable hardware on paper, but probably you won't notice that in everyday use and in most situtations.
The deciding factor is the Spen. Do you need it? If yes, get it. If you don't, look for something else.
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thanks guys,
I am little confused with note4 and moto x style...I was using note 2 and not 3 before then I shifted to one plus 2.
I thougt without sd card I will be able to manage but I guess its quite difficult thats why I want to buy a phone with sd card. Moto x style is good one with lowr price also but its not having OIS and camera is not so good in low light conditions.
How is note 4 camera. Do you guys recommend to buy note 4?
Note 4 is the best phone I have ever owned it's still competing with today's flagship especially with root and unlocked bootloader the battery is amazing camera is high quality and I have never ran out of space with a 128gb SD card and 32gb on board memory I would suggest if you get the note 4 get the snapdragon variant. But like other have said if you don't use the spen you can get a on paper better phone with the same price range, but that note 4 amoled screen is very hard to compare to.
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YousKoose said:
Note 4 is the best phone I have ever owned it's still competing with today's flagship especially with root and unlocked bootloader the battery is amazing camera is high quality and I have never ran out of space with a 128gb SD card and 32gb on board memory I would suggest if you get the note 4 get the snapdragon variant. But like other have said if you don't use the spen you can get a on paper better phone with the same price range, but that note 4 amoled screen is very hard to compare to.
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Well, without spen also I am not able to find any phone within same price range which is as good as note 4.
Note 4 screen --resoultion + size
removable battery,
sd card
infra red
3 GB ram
CAMERA (OIS + 16MB)
I am looking for good screen (5.5 to 5.7) 3GB RAM, good camera,sd card support.
Do you know any phone better than note4 in above features.
Post no. #4 is the kind of post why i get angry for the sheer stupidity!
Note 4 at 30k is still the best phone out there, end of story. One Plus 2 nice, but only the camera is better. I myself was confused between X Style and Note 4, ended up with the latter, glad I did. Motorola would win in terms of software only, that's it. For Note 4 you only compromise with the software, TW (it's not that bad anyway), and get quite a lot of other this which other phones can't even dream about providing.
Go for it.
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Post no. #4 is the kind of post why i get angry for the sheer stupidity!
Note 4 at 30k is still the best phone out there, end of story. One Plus 2 nice, but only the camera is better. I myself was confused between X Style and Note 4, ended up with the latter, glad I did. Motorola would win in terms of software only, that's it. For Note 4 you only compromise with the software, TW (it's not that bad anyway), and get quite a lot of other this which other phones can't even dream about providing.
Go for it.
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Thanks , looks like note 4 is better option..
alien0101 said:
Well, without spen also I am not able to find any phone within same price range which is as good as note 4.
Note 4 screen --resoultion + size
removable battery,
sd card
infra red
3 GB ram
CAMERA (OIS + 16MB)
I am looking for good screen (5.5 to 5.7) 3GB RAM, good camera,sd card support.
Do you know any phone better than note4 in above features.
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You won't find a more full featured phone in that price range that will compare with a note 4, and the spen is just a topping on the cake that makes it that much more useful. There are a bunch of amazing Roms that ported the note 5 features and cleaned up touchwiz to the point where it actually is a great Ui the only phone I would think of getting instead of a note 4 is the new nexus.
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alien0101 said:
thanks guys,
I am little confused with note4 and moto x style...I was using note 2 and not 3 before then I shifted to one plus 2.
I thougt without sd card I will be able to manage but I guess its quite difficult thats why I want to buy a phone with sd card. Moto x style is good one with lowr price also but its not having OIS and camera is not so good in low light conditions.
How is note 4 camera. Do you guys recommend to buy note 4?
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You have mentioned nothing about the Spen. You also had Note 2 and 3, but it was easy for you to shift to OPT.
I think it's obvious that you do not have a great need for the most stand out feature of the Notes. In that case, you should probably go for another phone, there are so many good phones out there these days.
Melissakis said:
You have mentioned nothing about the Spen. You also had Note 2 and 3, but it was easy for you to shift to OPT.
I think it's obvious that you do not have a great need for the most stand out feature of the Notes. In that case, you should probably go for another phone, there are so many good phones out there these days.
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I can live without spen, but I am not able to find these specs in another phone whithin this price range.Can u list any phone with
QHD screen
5.7 screen size
removable battery,
sd card
infra red
3 GB ram
CAMERA with OIS
Only phone which came close was moto x style but its camera is not good at all. I like some new phones also Like Zuk ,LE Eco but they dont have sd card.
Moto g plus is good but it is having heating issue plus camera is not good.
taksheelj said:
Yaaa so? It may be garbage to you I respect what that device is going to offer as i said its my pov i can speak whatever i want. I didnt tell him to trust me i said google it. You can get even better devices. Note 4 surely is great one I myself use note 4 but after what sammy did with 6.0.1 i think note 4 users should use a ported rom to do justice with the hardware. So in comparison to that there are many devices. Htc one me camera just go and look at the camera of that device. Hence my point of view. If you didnt like it then talk respectfully.
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Yah man I'm surprised you even mentioned the iPhone in that post that was pretty sad to bring up iPhone in a XDA forum. And I'm pretty sure the YU is a Indian company I'm not sure the band's will work here or at least have issues in the USA or Europe.
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Yah man I'm surprised you even mentioned the iPhone in that post that was pretty sad to bring up iPhone in a XDA forum. And I'm pretty sure the YU is a Indian company I'm not sure the band's will work here or at least have issues in the USA or Europe.
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Hahaha yupp iPhone sucks i say it too but as i said to the other guy i gave him the choices on price range. And yes YU is an Indian company but I saw people around me using it and it is good enough i mean given the liberty to do anything with the device, few tweaks would make it a good one. And the model was different its going to launch in this week with flagship specs. So he can keep it to compare the models you know.
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Don't go for note 4. I've been using for 1 and a half year and I regret it. I don't want to change to note 5 and wait for another year for note 6 or note 7 edge (whatever they want to call it).
P's. It's a Korean company and not an us, europe or whatever your country coming from.
To OP, just go to the shop and try both. Better to try yourself then asking other people.
I just picked up a used N901F for a ludicrously cheap price and I'm going to give it a week or so to see how it compares to my N9005 with daily use before I decide if I keep it or not. The biggest issue will be battery life as the Note 3 rocked in that department! I travel a lot so I need battery life and stability so I'm a little hesitant to go down the custom ROM route (didn't have too many issues with my HTC HD2 in that respect) so I've rooted it stuck TWRP and xposed on, installed most of my old apps and gsam battery monitor to keep an eye on what's going on with the battery.
This is my first time using MM - any apps/features you guys recommend either specifically on the Note 4 or even MM in general?
You can go for Note 4, eyes closed, great phone.
Seriously, that's a very funny post, Yu and other phones compared with Samsung, and that too a Galaxy Note phone. I live in India too, and I too do see ghatiya (rubbish) phones being used nowadays, LeEco, Lyf, Xioami etc., those could never be compared with a Samsung or brands like that at first place! Also just by seeing a phone, that too used by other people, you can't conclude a decision, let alone recommending it to someone!!! Weird!
Note4life only note 6 next!!!
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I'd honestly say that the Note 4 is a excellent device even by today's standards. I've seen some retailers sell it at a much lower price than when I purchased mine last year.

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