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So I was over in the Atrix forums the other night because there was someone over there who was wanting some help deciding if they should ditch their Atrix for the Thrill 4G. The overwhelming amount of posts about some of the hitches with the Thrill were in regards to the battery consumption and the RAM getting hammered with general usage.
Over here since a bunch of us are actively doing doing what we can to try and speed the development along having being trying new things and tweaking this or that in an attempt to make some progress toward real development.
Here is a link to what I said over there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17448824#post17448824
So I was running back through all the apps. and such that I had used in the past on other phones and hidden in my lengthy list of apps. used to get every ounce of power out of whatever phone I was jacking with, was SuperPower. I had the paid version but it has subsequently been ditched and redone it seems and now takes the form of a BETA.
This BETA I dropped onto my Thrill and started to go through the options that are available on this version that were not there before. You can now manually go into SuperPower and tell the app. what program you want it to kill when the screen goes black, how you want wi-fi and/or radios to behave, etc. It is extremely customizable.
Until there is a custom ROM and all that for the Thrill I think we are going to have to do our best to manage the few minute undesirables this device has with things like SuperPower. So, my end result as it stands right now on battery and RAM usage, I am using a few different apps. and I will list the links below for your convenience; is after about 10 1/2 hours of fairly mid to heavy use I was sitting at about 71 % battery life. Understand I let the battery go down below 20 % then charged it back up to 100 % with no interruptions in the charging process. You should do this at least once a month just maintain good battery health and longevity anyway. Especially on powerhouse phones like the Thrill 4G.
Now when I say mid to heavy usage this is my interpretation of that; regular talk time throughout the day, 100+ text during the day, market and music downloads, 2D and 3D gaming. When it was time to charge again I was at 13 or so hours with 49 % battery still showing. Not to bad as it was blowing through battery like it was free before.
Here are the apps. I used with download links. If you have questions or anything let me know or PM me:
SuperPower BETA v 0.80(*Must be rooted by the way to use this*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=SuperPower
Chainsfire 3D(*must be rooted*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=Chainsfire&so=1&c=apps
*As a side note besides the other great benefits this app. offers what I use to help with battery usage is the Night Mode feature*
SPB Shell 3D (*This is a paid app. and worth every penny IMO. But if you are not down with dropping the change for it use LauncherPro or one of the other free Launchers out there*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=spb+shell+3d+&so=1&c=apps
Advanced Task Manager
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.arron.taskManagerFree&feature=search_result
Hotspot Guru
https://market.android.com/search?q=Hotspot+Guru&so=1&c=apps
Besides what I listed as benefits for SuperPower there are a ton more that I have not even touched on. This app is jam-packed full of modding goodness. get the app. and use at your own risk kind of thing and explore this bad boy because its a doozy. Lol! Hope this helps.
What are you doing specifically on the Superpower app to get such good battery life?
I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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00mred00 said:
I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.
Thanks! As for apps...that isn't the issue for sure. There are a number of things the phone does quickly but there are a few it does not. The camera does concern me. When I open the three d can it just goes blank screen for a while and then finally comes up.
Hell even typing at times everything will occassionally just pause for a few.
I haven't given up yet. I am going to hard reset and give her one more go
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.
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Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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Personally, I have been using "Autokiller Memory Optimizer," which is NOT a task killer, but allows you to set memory limits.
This may be overly aggressive, but this is the setup I have been using, and it has been treating me very well. From top to bottom, in MB (from "foreground app" to "empty app"): 18 / 24 / 32 /100 / 125 / 150
I may tweak it down a little, but in general this setup has allowed me to multitask between apps really quickly, while Android "kills" the apps I'm no longer using. Highly recommended for (rooted) Thrill users!
While I'm at it, another useful (paid, requires root) tool for the thrill is "Autostarts."
With what I have done so far with SuperPower and such my phone is flying right along and running consistently with between 186 and 202 mb of available memory. So with the processor and RAM hauling ass I am loving this phone. I am can't wait for some some stuff to come down the pipe for this phone. There is definitely a lot of BS stuff running hidden that can slow it down but with SuperPower and the task killer and all the stuff I talked about when I started the thread I am so far satisfied.
Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.
I'm returning mine. I either put too many apps, get too many defective phones, or just need a phone with more memory. Never had running out of application room on the Captivate or Inspire.
Camera can take up to 8-10 seconds to finally come on. This is a pain when I want some quick shots of the kids at the moment.
Mine also freezes up while I'm using the keyboard whether it's the stock or swiftkey or better keyboard. This is the 2nd thrill I've had and same issues. So that leaves pretty much the GS2 that's coming out. And Samsung scares me.
Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.
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I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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I will play with it again but i recall it doing nothing. it looks like the settings have been changed but they do not stick. Running a few benchmarks showed processor still running at full speed
I did a factory reset...will play with it when i get everything loaded up again.
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I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Haven't done any benchmark tests, my conclusion just came based on the results of improved battery
life to be completely honest.
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SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.
Not a problem my good friend, I'm a huge fan of this device and the potentials it possess, I am glad to be a part of any improvements that can be made.
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I am a goon...underclock works perfectly fine
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I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
47r0n1n said:
SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.
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I can't find this settings under super power? Do I need to have a paid version of this app?
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I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
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Can you post your setcpu settings?
I'm running my CPU at 600000mHz max and 300000mHz min for normal use, and babe a profile that sets it to 300000mHz max and min with the screen off. Have all my profiles set for "on demand" so it only ramps up the CPU when it needs it
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
One of my biggest issues with the OneX was the overly aggressive memory management that made multitasking impossible and plain broke some stuff. Even on my GS3 AT&T with 2GB of RAM the memory management is quite aggressive probably to help battery life or something. On my Nexus 4 however I can choose to leave apps running non stop for days at a time and they remain that way. Especially handy for Maps or Ingress BTW.
Anybody with one have a sense on how it is on the One? I'm hoping the extra 1GB of RAM helps but then Sense was always overly bloated and the whole blink feed thing can't have a small footprint.
Looking for thoughts since the phone is useless to me if it will continuously kill apps in the background.
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Well I dont know if the apps remain days after launching them but I got to tell You that its faaaar better than One X. The other day I opened 10tabs in the browser at the same time and no reloading. When it comes to new sense its like a night and day. Normally on my OneX ram usage was about 800MB without any app runnig. With The One I have 550MB from 1.5GB that is usable so that indicates that Sense 5 is a lot lighter and believe me... Its really fast. They got rid of most widgets, animations are more simple etc. Blinkfeed is kinda nice but it needs extended functionality.
Multitasking isn't an issue.
I've come from phones with 512Mb RAM - the dialer in particular used to get shut down all the time, leading to lag when someone rang, or when I wanted to boot the dialer up again to ring someone. I rooted those phones just so I could lock the dialer in memory.
The HTC One appears to do the same (well, the dialer eventually disappears from the recent apps list anyway), but even so, it is no problem. Using the dialer as an example, whether I have used it 5 minutes ago or six hours ago, when I press the dialer button it comes up straight away, i.e no laggy delay like previous phones. And the dialer comes up and the phone rings pretty much straight away when someone rings me (well, me ringing myself from my other phones to test the response time).
So more than enough RAM (and processing power) on the HTC One to not make it an issue any more, everything flies and all apps come straight up when you want them to. More than happy.
I know what u mean coming from the HTC one x and one x+ myself . HTC have solved the problem finally.. this baby can multitask properly.. and very quickly I might add
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I know what u mean coming from the HTC one x and one x+ myself . HTC have solved the problem finally.. this baby can multitask properly.. and very quickly I might add
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Can u pls tell me how much memory is free when u boot it up and let it settle...
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Regarding free RAM, out of the box there was about 1GB RAM free (1.5GB showing as available in the 'running apps' screen, with about 550MB used, or as it is displayed in Sense 5, '550MB/1.5GB').
I've now disabled all the stuff I don't need, and loaded Novalauncher, with six home screens full of widgets and app icons, and also Widgetlocker, i.e. quite a lot of stuff loaded - now it shows '825MB/1.5GB' (the range is about 775MB to 875MB from what I observe), which means roughly 600-700MB free RAM still, allegedly. That's without any specialist tweaking from me.
No slowdown or lag at all since I have loaded everything up.
Coming from the Nexus 4, multi tasking is a bit disappointing for me; it’s not a deal breaker but with the N4 I’d switch to an app I’d not touched in a week and it would be up, responsive and exactly where I’d left off a week later no matter what I’d done in the mean time. On the One however, apps sometimes have to reopen and - for me a more annoying behaviour- sometimes relatively recently used apps do a sort of ‘refresh’ when they first load up. The app seems to load up, but then it fades out and then back again, which means that although they usually pick up where they left off, they’re unresponsive for a second. It’s not all the time and it may sound like nit-picking but it feels like a fairly significant delay when everything else is so fast.
It’s also frustrating using certain apps where the refresh can lead to you losing progress; I was using a run tracker for example, stopped my run, multi tasked to music and stopped that, jumped in the shower and then switched back to the run log to sort out the details, but instead of loading my stats where I’d left it, or even reopening the app entirely, it showed an image of my runs stats just as i'd left it but then refreshed and loaded up a new run. Because i'd not pressed 'continue' in the app the run was lost. It's poor that the app didn't autosave before that point but it’s not unique behaviour either as I’ve had the same happen with office documents, games and other apps - seems very odd behaviour to me and not something i've seen in other phones where an app is either ready where it was left, or needs reopening.
If I’d gone straight from the SGS2 to this it wouldn’t be an issue but with the N4 showing me what can be done, I do feel that the One could use some improvement.
It also depends on the app, some apps for me dont save their state at all.
As soon as I switch app it reloads when I go back to it, however on my Senny with edited memory management the same app could be opened again at same state without reloads.
For me, every single app on the 9 recent apps grid will load instantly with no refresh.
Even the stock browser? That's the biggest culpit for me in terms of seemingly needless refreshing. Hopefully what im experiencing will be fixed either by HTC or a third party as if this phone had the N4's multitasking prowess - and there's no reason it can't imo - it would feel much, much better to me.
Yeah the browser is fine; are you on stock rom? Not sure if ARHD has any tweaks in regards to multitasking but it's good for me.
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Yeah the browser is fine; are you on stock rom? Not sure if ARHD has any tweaks in regards to multitasking but it's good for me.
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Yep completely stock - usually like to wait a few weeks before going down the custom rom route so i can get a good guage of the otb experience. If it fixes the muti-tasking i'll switch over to ARHD once i've fixed my N4 though
So some people are actually having the refresh problems again?
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I don’t know what the last generation HTC One’s were like but this isn’t terrible, it’s better at multi tasking than my S2 in general - just not as good as the N4 and the strange refreshing/redrawing behaviour seems totally pointless and counterintuitive.
At least it does that because of the battery !
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Arival said:
I don’t know what the last generation HTC One’s were like but this isn’t terrible, it’s better at multi tasking than my S2 in general - just not as good as the N4 and the strange refreshing/redrawing behaviour seems totally pointless and counterintuitive.
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It isn't pointless it helps save battery because it essentially freezes apps in the background so they don't use CPU. When you go back to them they then resume and have to refresh. So in the end it will help with battery - on a stock One X I used to easily get 5h screen on time. Never got close on a SGS3 or any other phone.
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Not going to lie but my Note 2 has never refreshed an app yet. If the One is plagued with refreshing and aggressive memory management its a deal breaker. Im just confused because some people say yes and others no to the problem. Which is it?
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Not going to lie but my Note 2 has never refreshed an app yet. If the One is plagued with refreshing and aggressive memory management its a deal breaker. Im just confused because some people say yes and others no to the problem. Which is it?
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As always it depends entirely on what apps you use and what state they report. The memory management on the One won't be for RAM reasons but CPU and battery reasons. The worse news is even after rooting and changing system settings some of the aggressive management on the One X was at the kernel level.
Given the extra memory on the One. I'm guessing it won't be as bad but you'll have to use it yourself to know for sure.
I'm currently on a Nexus 4 and this is the best Android multitasking I've ever seen on a phone ever.
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I think it also depends what phone you came from and how you use it. I constantly switch out between a dozen or so apps and am used to the nexus 4 which is pretty much flawless for multi tasking, but having used a one x+ side by side (literally 5 minutes ago) the one is massively improved, and it's also a lot better than my s2.
It's a damn fast phone and most of the time there's no issue, but it could still be improved slightly - I'll check out a custom rom this week and see if that does it.
I'm still very happy with my purchase - particularly since the battery life has improved significantly and now trounces what I got with the n4 in the same situation.
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Hello, I am new here and just came into this forum to ask about a problem that has been bothering me since I updated to JB.
I have a rooted and unlocked bootloader LG 4X with android version 4.1.2 EuroOpen.
And now the glamourous problem:
The phone will decrease brightness everytime it does something, relatively speaking, intensive. First to 87%, then to 70%. I did not notice this in ICS.
Just make a Benchmark, you will see it for yourself. You can also test this by playin angrybirds(Yes, even angrybirds is too much for the ridiculous thermal throttling)
I did try the Optimus G solution in this forum but I COULD NOT find a thermaled.conf to remove or change the said instances inside it.
I have no sullution currently and would like to know how to fix this or remove the annoying brightness decrease.
PS: To all others who will try tell me that a display brightness of 100% is unnecessary or "Who would use a phone on 100%?", your valuable suggestion is of no use in this thread so dont even bother to tell me that. I dont want your idea on what you think is right.
It's also happened im mine v10e and current v20a but no solution yet because it's display is best in class,very brighter,and also hd resolution that's why it's consuming more battery and heating
If our o4x is slightly warm it's reduced the brightness and also slow charging
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Hummm... I only use 100% brightness with Navigon and YouTube, never had that problem... Only time I had a heat issue the phone was under direct sunlight, once that it's black and got really hot, I didn't look for that as a problem.
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I've checked around and haven't really found a great answer.
I've had my Z1 for a week and a half. Always have stamina activated with WiFi by location on with advanced selection. Also running battery guru with WiFi management off (since the stamina has the option to be selective as to only activate if WiFi networks are present in area and battery guru does not). Have seen a little improvement with battery guru.
I'll grab screenshots tonight. First half of the week I was lasting half a day. I've had improvement but really not sure where I should be at since I've seen a lot of 1 day results seen here on XDA. Still amazed how I'll wake up silence my alarms and my phone loses 1% of battery in 5 minutes.my drain is incredible still and have screen settings as battery friendly as possible.
My settings are screen brightness as low as it can be. I have LTE in my area and LTE is usually always what my signal is. My GPS only activates when an app needs it and my auto refresh is set to being very selective usually once every 4 hours for calendar weather etc. I keep an eye on my WiFi just in case the auto turns it on and Im at work and can't connect to the secured county network etc. I'm doing my best just wanna see if I can squeeze every bit of the phone I can.
I'm not rooted running stock c6903 with current firmware and 4.3. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. I know this is a common topic but really just wanted to ask and see what input I can get. So far though very pleased with the phone. I'm coming from a droid maxx on T-Mobile so I know I'll never get as good as that phone had but this camera is far worth the trade off.
Thanks everyone!!
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Do not use the folowing:
Battery savers
Ram Cleaners
avoid the folowing:
apps that prevents sleep (find this in the battery info in your settings)
to extend battery life and avoid wear:
do not use when batter is 60 or above
try not to disturb charging (unplugging before it hits 90)
avoid heat, can cause battery to die quicker
some other things:
greenify is an app known to actualy work
try crystalizing apps, (from android tuner)
debloat your system (not recomended unless you know what your doing)
install a custom kernel (not recomended either)
hmm there is some ive missed but most of this i do , get 3/4 days with my xperia s and 6/7 with my Z1
if i remember anything ill add to this
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Thanks I'm not rooted but I am rather proficient with advanced android operation. So your recommendation is to not use battery guru from qualcom? And I'm in the process of removing bloatware
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Thanks I'm not rooted but I am rather proficient with advanced android operation. So your recommendation is to not use battery guru from qualcom? And I'm in the process of removing bloatware
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im not too sure about battery guru
if it keeps your Z1 from sleeping dont use it
the majourity of ram cleaners and battery savers usualy dont work.
Ram Cleaners for some reason just make your device feel boggy and generaly ugh
battery savers usualy keep your device from sleeping or make your android feel sluggish
I don't believe battery guru keeps the phone from sleeping since its an app directly from Qualcomm designed for devices specifically with snapdragon processors due to the strong processor battery correlation. But as far as today goes this is where I'm at for bed time.
I had moderate use today considering I was in class from 830-430. I'm in the field tomorrow so I will post after my shift tomorrow. Here is today.
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I'm using a mix of BatteryGuru, Lux Lite(for adaptive brightness), and Greenify.
IMO Greenify actually works by not exactly 'freezing' the app but letting it not run in the background.
As for Lux, it's handy mostly because it can adjust accordingly to where you are as the default adaptive brightness is clunky
just because its proprietary doesn't mean it has to work
without any battery saving techniques i come over 2days with: wifi always on, gps always on (for myxperia), mid screen brightness, auto sync, push mail from sony stock email on average usage.
with those energy saving techniques sony put in our device, i'll be far better. sending data in interval comes in really handy. personally i really don't like stamina mode (whatsapp + pushmail and gmail won't notify me as long as the screen is turned off) but will safe a huge amount of battery.
location based wifi annoys me too much.
ive bought this device just because of the large battery and wasn't disappointed. even heavy users should easily come over one day without charging
what's your biggest energy drain? 1% in 5 minutes is way to much. something seems to be fishy
Haha that's true. Wouldn't be the first time proprietary apps have steered me wrong. It says screen is my big energy eater which I'm perplexed by since I have brightness as low as possible. Do you have LTE in your area? Those are amazing numbers for not using stamina. Maybe I should start messing around with turning stamina off and switching things up.
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Haha that's true. Wouldn't be the first time proprietary apps have steered me wrong. It says screen is my big energy eater which I'm perplexed by since I have brightness as low as possible. Do you have LTE in your area? Those are amazing numbers for not using stamina. Maybe I should start messing around with turning stamina off and switching things up.
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nah i dont have lte in my area
Ive left stamina mode on, helps quite alot, i dont realy mess with the settings, no need to realy
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I think I may have temporarily fixed my lag problem, hopefully some of you experiencing lag will give it a try and see if it works for you.
I was just playing around with features I hadn't messed with today and of course my S5 had become laggy the last few days. Just for fun I enabled Ultimate Power Saving mode and played with it for a min then turned it off. To my surprise I was flipping through my screens and the animations are typically laggy and suddenly they were lag free?! What the heck....
Anyway some apps are still not the fastest, but my screen transitions and overall speed has been quicker since turning the Ultimate Powersaving mode on and off.
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I love ultimate power saver I turn it on every night before I go to bed and I have only had it drop 2% at most
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OP: You do realize that with ultimate power mode turned on, the device WILL LAG and that's perfectly normal. It is throttling back the CPU/GPU to save battery life. I am still not sure if you are being serious or not. I was under the impression everyone knew that.
MattMJB0188 said:
OP: You do realize that with ultimate power mode turned on, the device WILL LAG and that's perfectly normal. It is throttling back the CPU/GPU to save battery life. I am still not sure if you are being serious or not. I was under the impression everyone knew that.
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Maybe I wasn't very clear. I have the lag in the REGULAR mode. I had never touched ultimate power saving mode until today. I flipped it on and when I turned it off all my lag was gone from REGULAR mode.
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tdesbien31 said:
Maybe I wasn't very clear. I have the lag in the REGULAR mode. I had never touched ultimate power saving mode until today. I flipped it on and when I turned it off all my lag was gone from REGULAR mode.
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Oh. Every S5 has lag. Some people notice it, some don't. But it is there. Best solution is to run another launcher, like Nova prime. You'll be fine then. Also disable a lot of the bloat.
MattMJB0188 said:
Oh. Every S5 has lag. Some people notice it, some don't. But it is there. Best solution is to run another launcher, like Nova prime. You'll be fine then. Also disable a lot of the bloat.
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My galaxy s5 has no lag at all what soever. So if you people experiencenlag you must have really ****ty CPUs in there faulty units or maybe you have all of the bloat turned on.
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What is the best way to turn off the bloat apps
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sk8trix said:
My galaxy s5 has no lag at all what soever. So if you people experiencenlag you must have really ****ty CPUs in there faulty units or maybe you have all of the bloat turned on.
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Your s5 has lag, you just aren't bothered by the .5-.75s lag that occurs regularly on this phone. Its not 'omg i'm sitting here waiting forever' lag its waiting for transitions and acknowledgements of your commands.
trichert said:
Your s5 has lag, you just aren't bothered by the .5-.75s lag that occurs regularly on this phone. Its not 'omg i'm sitting here waiting forever' lag its waiting for transitions and acknowledgements of your commands.
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No lag trust me I'm going to try to find a non rootnscreen recorder and put a clop up
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Every s5 has minimum lag whether you believe it or not. If you use a phone that's optimized better you will see it. I have my s4 with a GE ROM and I notice lag on my s5 after I'm done using my s4
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MattMJB0188 said:
Oh. Every S5 has lag. Some people notice it, some don't. But it is there. Best solution is to run another launcher, like Nova prime. You'll be fine then. Also disable a lot of the bloat.
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Do you have evidence to back that up? My buddy has the S5 for Sprint and he's never rooted or uninstalled a single application on his phones. He's not tech savvy and uses them to play a game or two, call, and text. I picked his up to mess with it a bit and there wasn't a single hint of lag. It isn't that I couldn't notice it, it's that it simply wasn't there. so... not EVERY S5 has lag just like NOT EVERY S4, Note III, etc...
Delakit said:
Do you have evidence to back that up? My buddy has the S5 for Sprint and he's never rooted or uninstalled a single application on his phones. He's not tech savvy and uses them to play a game or two, call, and text. I picked his up to mess with it a bit and there wasn't a single hint of lag. It isn't that I couldn't notice it, it's that it simply wasn't there. so... not EVERY S5 has lag just like NOT EVERY S4, Note III, etc...
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Every S4 had lag buddy. The S5 has been greatly improved but the .75 sec delay when closing an app just isn't noticeable to everyone. I bet if I picked up your buddy's S5 I would find lag. It's on every device, everyone just doesn't notice it. that's a fact!
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Every S4 had lag buddy. The S5 has been greatly improved but the .75 sec delay when closing an app just isn't noticeable to everyone. I bet if I picked up your buddy's S5 I would find lag. It's on every device, everyone just doesn't notice it. that's a fact!
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It is not a fact. It is a matter of opinion. All computing devices have response times greater than zero. Some people will implicitly define lag as 0.1 second, some might define it as 0.5 sec. Some might define it as 1 second.
Since there is no standardized definition of "lag", saying a device has lag or not, is merely stating a personal impression.
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Every S4 had lag buddy. The S5 has been greatly improved but the .75 sec delay when closing an app just isn't noticeable to everyone. I bet if I picked up your buddy's S5 I would find lag. It's on every device, everyone just doesn't notice it. that's a fact!
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I dont think every S4 or S5 have lag, however my S4 had some lag even though it was very very slight. My S5 has no lag. I say this because I sell phone s at my job and I sell lots of S5 devices for all carriers and I see the lag on certain phones here and there when I activate them for customers. I notice alot of white S5s for any carrier have more camera issues...idk why but it just happens more often with the white ones, and i do see lag on the att and verizon ones more often but then again I see some that are super fast out of the box with all the bloat and features turned on.
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I dont think every S4 or S5 have lag, however my S4 had some lag even though it was very very slight. My S5 has no lag. I say this because I sell phone s at my job and I sell lots of S5 devices for all carriers and I see the lag on certain phones here and there when I activate them for customers. I notice alot of white S5s for any carrier have more camera issues...idk why but it just happens more often with the white ones, and i do see lag on the att and verizon ones more often but then again I see some that are super fast out of the box with all the bloat and features turned on.
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I think the term lag here is being misinterpretted. I think the lag people are talking about is just the normal delay when opening apps or when something is being calculated. In the past, lag has been described as responsiveness of the touch screen, which it is almost zero lag. Scrolling is lagless, but things like opening the task switcher or bringing up certain apps has a small delay before populating the screen.
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amsguitarist said:
I think the term lag here is being misinterpretted. I think the lag people are talking about is just the normal delay when opening apps or when something is being calculated. In the past, lag has been described as responsiveness of the touch screen, which it is almost zero lag. Scrolling is lagless, but things like opening the task switcher or bringing up certain apps has a small delay before populating the screen.
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I agree with you, I beleive lag is often misunderstood however it is present on some models, remember not all cpu chips are made equal and this is why somepeople complain about phones lagging ,phones getting too warm and such things. I always tell customers that if their phone is acting up so much they can bring it back to exchange it if they feel its not performing the way it should. Can't sell people crappy units.
Also having insurance for non techy people helps because you can call and argue about warranty exchanges or if you have sprint we will replace your phone if we can tell is crapping out.
the bottom part of the link shows how to reduce lag by turning of animations http://blog.laptopmag.com/galaxy-s5-guide
After turning off all animations in developer options (first thing I did), I never experienced lag whatsoever.
MattMJB0188 said:
Every S4 had lag buddy. The S5 has been greatly improved but the .75 sec delay when closing an app just isn't noticeable to everyone. I bet if I picked up your buddy's S5 I would find lag. It's on every device, everyone just doesn't notice it. that's a fact!
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LMMFAO. You're so completely delusional but whatever helps you get through the day, "buddy."
If you want to use touchwiz with minimal to no lag, try these things out. (also reduces some battery consumption)
1. Turn of My Magazine
- long press app switcher on home screen, then go to home screen settings and uncheck my magazine
- go to app manager then all apps. fine my magazine and turn it off. yes you can skip the first part of this, but this is the proper way to disable it so the system knows it's off before disabling it.
2. turn transition & animatior scales down or off
- enable dev options "(setings, about device, tap on build number a bunch)
- in dev options under drawing change the transition and animator scales down or off completely
3. turn off the s voice shortcut
- open s voice, go to settings then uncheck open via home key
hope this helps some people get rid of their "lag"