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[Q] N1 for 400$ ... Take it or Leave it ??

Hello Everyone
A man have google nexus one used it only one week
and he is selling it for 400$
like new and with every thing
is it a good deal or no ?
and do you advice me to buy nexus one or see anther mobile ?
is nexus one good for heavy games ? and apps ?
do i have any problems ?
and what are the things i have to check them before buying it ?
and thank you​

My only advice...slow down with the formatting

Do it. Best phone i've ever used, and it'll stay supported (Dev!)

an9093 said:
Hello Everyone
A man have google nexus one used it only one week
and he is selling it for 400$
like new and with every thing
is it a good deal or no ?
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Give me his number and I'll tell you how good of a deal it is..
JK
I say take it... it is by far one of the best devices I've ever had. It's no longer on the top of my list but I still own one and can't seem to shake off the love for this phone.

Get him to turn it on and make sure it boots up. Thats all you need to do really. If he has only had it for a week it may be an SLCD device and there is only one kernel supporting that at the moment.
I'd do it if it was me.

OMG, with the formatting.
PASS on the N1 at $400+. I'd pay $350 for it though.

For heavy games GPU wise, i'd say nexus one isnt the way to go, well for the time being that is. But thats my opinion.
i've opened a thread for porting / improving GPU drivers for our devices and who knows what gingerbread will provide for our devices
We have no clue how well our devices can perform but its always getting better.
I'd say Galaxy S should be more appropriate as it has a great GPU and massive internal storage.

I've started seeing plenty of Nexus Ones for $350 now, so $400 seems much, but this is only used for 1 week so you decide for yourself.
As for what to know, make sure you get the version you need for 3G-support. Doesn't sound like you're in the U.S. though.

yes i am not in USA
but the n1 have dual-band 3G support
right ?

an9093 said:
yes i am not in USA
but the n1 have dual-band 3G support
right ?
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No. Dual-band GSM support, not 3G. It works with both AT&T and T-Mobile's network on Edge, but for 3G, it depends on which model you get.

see the Key features here
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_one-review-457.php
•Quad-band GSM and dual-band 3G support

an9093 said:
see the Key features here
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_one-review-457.php
•Quad-band GSM and dual-band 3G support
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The POINT is, there are TWO versions of Nexus One in the U.S., one for AT&T 3G, and one for T-Mobile 3G. I don't know where are you from and how the network there works, but that's how it is in the U.S. You mentioned the price in U.S. dollars, so you might be buying one of the two. You need to know not all U.S. Nexus Ones are the same.

he said that it is unlocked

Unlocked doesn't have to do with what the hardware supports. Ask him if it's the AT&T or T-Mobile version. Then look at those frequencies and figure out if they work in your area, on your carrier.

Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_One
"France
On May 18, 2010 the Nexus One was made available for purchase through the SFR web portal."
"The original Nexus One also came along with UMTS frequency bands 1 (2100 MHz), 4 (1700 MHz), and 8 (900 MHz).[56], allowing it to access 3G throughout Europe, as well as on T-Mobile USA and WIND Mobile in Canada. The second version of the Nexus One supports UMTS frequency bands 1 (2100 MHz), 2 (1900 MHz), and 5 (850 MHz), allowing it to access 3G in most of Europe, as well as on AT&T Mobility in the USA and Rogers Wireless, Fido Solutions, Bell Mobility, and Telus Mobility in Canada. The second version of the Nexus One also works on Telecom New Zealand's XT Mobile Network and Telcel's 3G Network."

Keep this thread clean please chaps and cut out the personal insults.
WB

Article (theverge): Why the Nexus 4 does not have LTE or CDMA

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
Pretty good article explaining why lte on a Nexus 4 doesn't make any sense for any potential whiners out there
Google wants direct control of the software on Nexus devices with no carrier intervention. That alone means Google can't sell an LTE device, as there's simply no access to LTE networks without working with carriers in one way or another: Verizon and Sprint's LTE networks still require compatibility with their 3G CDMA systems, and there's essentially no such thing as an unlocked CDMA device. AT&T's fledgling LTE network runs on different frequencies than other LTE networks around the world, so Google would have to build a custom phone for just 77 markets in the US. Doing that without AT&T's financial assistance makes little sense.
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Also it explains it pretty well why they didn't make the same mistake by going CDMA like they did on the Galaxy Nexus.
And there's precious little to suggest working with carriers is even in Google's best interests, or in the best interests of Nexus customers. The Galaxy Nexus was announced last year with a promised LTE version on Verizon, but the carrier held back releasing the phone for months to promote its own Droid RAZR instead. Google eventually grew tired of waiting and sent unlocked HSPA+ devices to reviewers. And software updates for Nexus phones sold through carriers have been problematic as well: it took the Verizon three full months to disseminate the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update to its Galaxy Nexus, slightly longer than Sprint.
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All accurate, a good summary.
With its pricing of the Nexus 4 and lack of LTE, Google is quite clearly giving US carriers the finger. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if a CDMA/LTE version appeared for Verizon and Sprint, but LTE doesn't really matter that much if you get decent 3G/3.5G/HSPA+ whatever you want to call it (i.e., not Verizon or Sprint 3G).
Really, anything over a few Mbps is enough for me...but I know other people use their phones differently.

T-Mobile Nexus 6 Volte ?

Picked up my Nexus 6 a couple of days ago and it's great but Voice Over LTE does not work on this device. I asked the sales rep at T-Mobile before I bought it about VoLTE and she told me it does have it.
Can anyone verify if this device is even able to use VoLTE?

I'm sure it'll be available in a software update so I wouldn't worry. It's not like the phone isn't capable of it.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app

She was misinformed, @askdes the Sr. Product guy for T-Mobile confirmed via his Twitter account that while the nexus 6 will not ship/be released with volte or WiFi calling, it will be updated within the next couple of months to support both. In addition it will also support band 12 (700mhz) block a spectrum in the neqr future as well.

ggfb20 said:
She was misinformed, @askdes the Sr. Product guy for T-Mobile confirmed via his Twitter account that while the nexus 6 will not ship/be released with volte or WiFi calling, it will be updated within the next couple of months to support both. In addition it will also support band 12 (700mhz) block a spectrum in the neqr future as well.
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I read in several places when the N6 was announced that it does support band 12. What it doesn't have are TMO's libs and kernel modules to make use of this band. The VoLTE and Wifi calling is the issue.

Oh cool, I guess it's just dependent on whether your location has band 12 up and running or not.
Usually I'm not too worried about VoLTE but my area is hurting right now in terms of capacity and backhaul so I cannot even use hangouts to make a stable call while maintaining lte.... Smh.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

VOLTE is probably something to look for down the road a bit.

Any luck with T-Mobile band 12??

I bought my nexus 6 from Motorola.com, so it's unlocked, unbranded. I live in Minneapolis, right in the city, which is one of the markets recently launched with the coveted Band 12. BUT from what I can tell my phone is still connecting on good old AWS spectrum whether on LTE or HSPA. I'm using both LTE Discovery and SignalCheck Pro for stats on my LTE connection. I have yet to see band 12. I'm wondering if anyone else is having a similar experience? I've contacted T-Mobile and they say that they only support basically the most recent Samsung devices (Note 4, etc.) and a particular ZTE hotspot device on band 12. Does ANYONE know if the next android update is supposed to "enable" band 12 on the N6 for T-Mobile, because I was basically told by a T-Mobile phone rep that a software update would enable that feature on some existing phones. But since this phone has that band already and is unlocked and unbranded, and doesn't run custom T-Mobile firmware, I assumed it would pick up whatever airwaves are nearby.
OR is it just my crummy luck and other N6 users ARE seeing band 12 in the markets where available?

I do not think all of Minneapolis is covered in band 12 yet. You could be in a area that doesn't have it or band 4 could be better in the area so the phone connects to that. T-Mobile did say wifi calling was coming to the N6 at one point so maybe that will be when band 12 will be used. Unless you can get a note 4 in the area you are at that shows band 12 being used with the N6 still on band 4, I would just wait and see. I work in Eagan, MN and I have yet to see any phone connect to band 12. I do work in a T-Mo Corp store.

I've been wondering the same thing....
I'm in Dallas and have yet to see band 12 on my T-mobile Nexus 6.

I don't think Dallas is part of the fun yet... http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-insights-blog/uncarrier-8-blog.htm
T-Mobile holds 700mhz spectrum throughout much of the state, south-central, central, and northwestern. When they first launched 3G they covered the entire metro area, Minneapolis, St. Paul, and first, second, and third tier suburbs. So I doubt this is an issue of coverage, but rather accessibility. Especially since I'm constantly traveling throughout the metro and well beyond into greater Minnesota.
So my question remains, is there anyone with a Nexus 6 in a 700mhz market that IS seeing service on band 12?

There are a bunch of people on the Note 4 picking up band 12 in Dallas. (see reddit and howardforums)

If that's true then have you heard of any Nexus users in the area picking up band 12?

Nope

This is killing me. It's the biggest reason I bought an N6 vs the OnePlus.

I put a post up on /r/tmobile (can't link) asking if anyone has seen band 12, nothing yet.

Here
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones

clninja said:
Here
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
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According to T-Mobile the only devices on THAT list currently supported on band 12 are the Samsung phones, I think one or both of those Samsung tablets and the ZTE hotspot, not the phone. That from a support rep with T-Mobile.
But since I have a directly purchased nexus rather than a carrier bought one I assumed it would be free of carrier imposed restrictions. I explained this to a tech support rep on the phone and he said a future software update would enable the band on some phones. Which again left me a little confused because the phone came from Motorola.com and I thought it was Google who pushes the updates... Not the carrier. I know in the case of most phones that run even light carrier customizations it's generally the carrier who pushes the updates once they've been tailored to the carrier's needs and specs.
I know T-Mobile boasts that their Nexus devices are unlocked and unbranded, but I had a Nexus 5 bought from Google while a friend had one that came from T-Mobile. Both phones running the same version of Android with the same build number, kernel number, baseband, etc. The one thing that seemed to set them apart is he couldn't successfully use his hotspot service on his phone, while I am able to without limits or restrictions. So I'm not sure how they pulled that off. On the carrier side or software side. If it's carrier side then how come I wasn't met with the same restrictions. If it's software, then how did our phone have all the same version numbers. And I wonder how that same question applies to the Nexus 6 and band 12.

T-mobile site says software update coming early 2015 to support band 12. Can't link it but it's under coverage.

How are you folks checking to see what band you are on? They recently upgrading my area to 4G after years of Edge that didn't really do data and I'm curious if its band 12 since my wifes HTC One (M7) doesn't seem to pick up the signal.

I use two apps; 'LTE Discovery' & 'SignalCheck Pro'.
SignalCheck Pro is nice because it gives me a constant visual on my network connection via the status bar and the lock-screen

YES
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/01/nexu...ill-receive-updates-to-enable-700mhz-support/

jeromeindahouse said:
YES
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/01/nexu...ill-receive-updates-to-enable-700mhz-support/
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Too bad they won't narrow it down better. Early 2015? Well it's the end of January. I consider that early 2015.

presstech said:
Too bad they won't narrow it down better. Early 2015? Well it's the end of January. I consider that early 2015.
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Right?! Some rumors have been saying a big update was coming for the N6 in February, so...
Also this still doesn't answer the question of whether the updates mentioned by T-Mobile will be applied to T-Mobile purchased Nexus devices or all Nexus 6's
I would assume it's part of an update rolling out to all 6's

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Right?! Some rumors have been saying a big update was coming for the N6 in February, so...
Also this still doesn't answer the question of whether the updates mentioned by T-Mobile will be applied to T-Mobile purchased Nexus devices or all Nexus 6's
I would assume it's part of an update rolling out to all 6's
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Maybe it's if you have a T-Mobile sim in your phone. If it goes out that way then it shouldn't matter where you got the phone from. It would know that the phone is on their network with the sim and maybe push the update to you.
Just guessing.

simplyTravis said:
How are you folks checking to see what band you are on? They recently upgrading my area to 4G after years of Edge that didn't really do data and I'm curious if its band 12 since my wifes HTC One (M7) doesn't seem to pick up the signal.
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Because the htc one m7 doesn't have the capability to work with band 12, even if it was enabled in software. It works on band 17 though (which is the upper part of that 700 mhz block).

presstech said:
Too bad they won't narrow it down better. Early 2015? Well it's the end of January. I consider that early 2015.
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If they're going by quarters, then by the end of March.

Do NOT buy in the US - does NOT work with modern T-Mobile or AT&T networks

Do NOT buy this phone in the US unless Sony gets its phones approved to work with T-Mobile & AT&T
Sadly Sony is the only phone maker that offers a NORMAL sized phone with the Compact series.
Please show me ANY other options for an Android phone with a 4.6"-4.8" screen with a good camera. THERE ARE NONE! The battery life is also beyond incredible. I easily get 1+ (up to 2) days battery life with heavy usage. Standby time (screen off) is easily 7 days (no greenify or any of that crap needed).
I have a Sony Xperia X Compact and it is the BEST ANDROID PHONE I have ever had.
Despite that I have to say that NOBODY SHOULD BUY ANY SONY PHONES.
The phone is awesome and supports pretty much any 3G and 4G band out there but Sony refuses to get these phones approved by AT&T and T-Mobile for VoLTE.
That means (for T-Mobile as an example) that the Xperia X Compact technically supports T-Mobile's super-duper Band 12 LTE which has almost better coverage than Verizon, BUT because the phone is not approved for VoLTE, Sony phones will almost immediately get disconnected from that T-Mobile tower. You may be standing next to someone with an approved phone that has 100% coverage, yet the Sony Xperia phones will show NO RECEPTION.
Sony phones should be able to at least connect to Band 12 for data but they don't. It may technically have the ability to connect to Band 12 and even use VoLTE, but the tower refusal to keep the connection. Sony then apparently also screwed up the band prioritization, because Sony phones even have issues connecting to non VoLTE networks (eg Band 4).
As a result, ALL SONY PHONES ARE PRETTY MUCH UNUSABLE on T-Mobile and AT&T AS A PHONE.
Do NOT buy any Sony phones if you want to use them on T-Mobile and AT&T, though I can tell you that they are the BEST phones otherwise - just not as a phone.
This is pathetic and there is no response from Sony.

But the press releases say these 2 phones will work with t-mobile VOLTE and WiFi Calling.

lobo4806 said:
But the press releases say these 2 phones will work with t-mobile VOLTE and WiFi Calling.
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Yea it will.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...z1-compact-support-t-mobile-wifi-calling.html

Lol yes first compact phone they certified I think. If someone figures out how to retain the volte functions and gain fingerprint sensor, I'm in.

I've had several Sony phones (Z1C, Z3, Z5C, all international single-SIM versions) and since at least the Z3, they all supported LTE on AT&T. I'm not sure anything changed since the Z5 era, so I'm hoping the XZ1C works fine on AT&T.

Can someone confirm this phone will work on at&t in the us? God I want it to do bad.

texaslegend said:
Can someone confirm this phone will work on at&t in the us? God I want it to do bad.
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Unproven rumors that it will be voLTE certified. NO CONFIRMATION FROM SONY OR T-MOBILE.
Even so, you won't be able to use the fingerprint sensor, since the international ROM won't support it.
Do NOT buy!!!!

Cool story but I'll be buying. Can't wait!
Btw, it also not confirmed that it WON'T work. Don't you think it would be a good idea to wait and see.
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It seems you have some sort of personal agenda against Sony and/or this particular phone. An idealistic preference for what network(s) should be supported.
I don't know that I care if VoLTE is possible. I want to know if I can make/receive calls, text, access data for app and internet use.
The fingerprint scanner is irrelevant for me, it's there or not.
So simply said, will this work on US networks although some features may not be compatible.
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Should be fine like every other Sony Compact I've had. Best Buy and Amazon will be selling it here shortly so one would logically assume they would be US carrier compatible in terms of calling/ data. I could give a crap about VoLTE.

From what I understand T-Mobile was sued a few years ago when someone couldn't make a 911 call in an area where there was only Band 12 LTE (since Band 12 goes through walls better than the 1900 MHz 2G and 1700 MHz 3G that T-Mo uses, apparently legally you are better off with no cell service than with only data service), because of that lawsuit T-Mobile asked phone makers to disable Band 12 on US devices that do not have VoLTE. (I can't post a source because I'm a new member but you can google this). It looks like the Band 12 blocking is done at the phone firmware level, not from T-Mobiles end, so there is a decent chance that the European firmware will not have Band 12 disabled. Though it will most likely also not support VoLTE on T-Mobile. You should still get good LTE data, you just might have to drop back to 3G or 2G for calls.
That said, this would need to be tested. It would be a shame if you had to choose between band 12 coverage without the fingerprint sensor, or a fingerprint sensor with band 12 coverage.
Either way I'm pretty psyched for this phone. I wish there was more competition in this space, but since Sony is the only game in town when it comes to non-phablet smartphones we really don't have much of a choice do we?

Phones re in and ... I am sadly correct.
Maybe if people spent more time to complain to T-Mobile, Sony, the FCC, the FTC and their Senator/congressman we would not have this issue.
Cell phone networks were supposed to let unlocked phones on ... VoLTE violates that.

Currently using my phone on tmobile just fine.
Getting LTE for data and no voice disconnects.
Could care less about volte; most people don't use their phones to talk anymore, myself included. Normal voice works fine for my needs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

christogold said:
That said, this would need to be tested. It would be a shame if you had to choose between band 12 coverage without the fingerprint sensor, or a fingerprint sensor with band 12 coverage.
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Sadly, some of us do.
theplasmastorm said:
Currently using my phone on tmobile just fine.
Getting LTE for data and no voice disconnects.
Could care less about volte; most people don't use their phones to talk anymore, myself included. Normal voice works fine for my needs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Dont assume too much. Since band 12 is much better than bands 2 and 4 in many ways, t-mobile is often not only adding band 12 but using it to replace bands 2 and 4 (kinda makes sense, why would you upkeep obsolete bands). I have had T-Mobile for about a year with an older unlocked phone and they recently switched to a lot of band 12 all over my area/region and now I have lots of total deadzones (including my house). I need to be able to make/receive phone calls, as I'm sure many do. But, for your point, I do still have data, sometimes, it seems to be much weaker a lot of the time compared to what it used to though, but maybe that's just me. I recall coming across a list of cities/places where t-mobile plans to switch things to band 12 and the timeline.
Edit: I am not sure this was the exact article I originally viewed, but here's a link < http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2017/07/tmo-lte-spectrum-update.html?m=1 >.

theplasmastorm said:
Currently using my phone on tmobile just fine.
Getting LTE for data and no voice disconnects.
Could care less about volte; most people don't use their phones to talk anymore, myself included. Normal voice works fine for my needs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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So to clarify, if it doesn’t have VoLTE, it just drops to LTE?
So if I flash UK firmware to get the fingerprint scanner (with AT&T) I just get LTE?
I don’t see why this is such a huge issue then, at least for me where I live I’ve never seen anyone with anything more than LTE anyway, it’ll be just business as usual. I also don’t make many phone calls so this doesn’t seem like anything that will hurt me with this phone one bit.

kobold98 said:
So to clarify, if it doesn’t have VoLTE, it just drops to LTE?
So if I flash UK firmware to get the fingerprint scanner (with AT&T) I just get LTE?
I don’t see why this is such a huge issue then, at least for me where I live I’ve never seen anyone with anything more than LTE anyway, it’ll be just business as usual. I also don’t make many phone calls so this doesn’t seem like anything that will hurt me with this phone one bit.
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To clarify,
On AT&T, with US firmware, you can:
1] You get LTE data.
2] You can make calls over GSM or UMTS, but not over LTE. This will also drop your data rate to 3G if you are using voice and data simultaneously.
3] You get no fingerprint reader.
On AT&T, with European firmware, you can:
1] You get LTE data.
2] You can make calls over GSM or UMTS, but not over LTE. This will also drop your data rate to 3G if you are using voice and data simultaneously.
3] You get a working fingerprint reader.
The VoLTE certification and modem configurations are only for T-Mobile on US firmware and other operators on specific, non-US firmware variants.

pbarrette said:
To clarify,
On AT&T, with US firmware, you can:
1] You get LTE data.
2] You can make calls over GSM or UMTS, but not over LTE. This will also drop your data rate to 3G if you are using voice and data simultaneously.
3] You get no fingerprint reader.
On AT&T, with European firmware, you can:
1] You get LTE data.
2] You can make calls over GSM or UMTS, but not over LTE. This will also drop your data rate to 3G if you are using voice and data simultaneously.
3] You get a working fingerprint reader.
The VoLTE certification and modem configurations are only for T-Mobile on US firmware and other operators on specific, non-US firmware variants.
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Thank you so much, it’s been hard to find a totally clear picture of this. As someone who doesn’t make a lot of phone calls (but does rely on LTE data) and never uses data during phone calls it sounds like I’ll be good to go with European firmware.

Thank you, that is a good summary for a fellow AT&T user. But one thing I am curious about. Does AT&T have VoLTE at all? Or is tmo the only one with that ability? Basically, if I bought a totally different phone specifically for AT&T would I get VoLTE?

Frontier3 said:
Thank you, that is a good summary for a fellow AT&T user. But one thing I am curious about. Does AT&T have VoLTE at all? Or is tmo the only one with that ability? Basically, if I bought a totally different phone specifically for AT&T would I get VoLTE?
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AT&T only offers VoLTE (they brand it: HD Voice) via their own branded handsets (ones bought through them) or any iPhone 6 or newer (as i recall).

andTab said:
Phones re in and ... I am sadly correct.
Maybe if people spent more time to complain to T-Mobile, Sony, the FCC, the FTC and their Senator/congressman we would not have this issue.
Cell phone networks were supposed to let unlocked phones on ... VoLTE violates that.
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Have you?