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Finding reasons for reboots

Hi,
Im just curious how to track down the reason for reboots with stock ROM and stock kernel, not rooted. I had one random reboot yesterday (when watching trailers in the IMDB app) after almost a week I own N7. I know that one reboot in a week is nothing, but its my new toy and Id like to know how to track down the reason for that in case it happens again.
I found out some threads about this and generally it says I should use LogCat - but I dont know how to use it. So I please ask for help! For now, I started Stability Test (CPU+GPU) and wait ...
Happy New Year, Y'all !!!
EDIT: Ghardashyan a bit lower mentioned hes been having reboots when watching youtube videos. Anybody else having this kind of behavior? Also, I had my reboot when watching trailers in the IMDB app - its playing via youtube, right?

The ONLY reboot I have ever seen, is when the default lockscreen widget gets updated by the marketplace. It's guaranteed to reboot on 4.2. It does it every time on both my Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7.
You will only ever see it, if you remove the default android 4.2 lockscreen time widget and put something else there from the marketplace, and only when that widget gets a marketplace file update.
Perhaps you are seeing this? Do you have auto-update apps enabled???

CrazyPeter said:
The ONLY reboot I have ever seen, is when the default lockscreen widget gets updated by the marketplace. It's guaranteed to reboot on 4.2. It does it every time on both my Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7.
You will only ever see it, if you remove the default android 4.2 lockscreen time widget and put something else there from the marketplace, and only when that widget gets a marketplace file update.
Perhaps you are seeing this? Do you have auto-update apps enabled???
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I dont have auto-update enabled. I added another time/weather widget to the lockscreen but I dont think it got updated yesterday ... I will remove it and hope it wont reboot again. I sure think it was some app as the stability test goes for 2 hours without problem.

michalurban said:
I dont have auto-update enabled. I added another time/weather widget to the lockscreen but I dont think it got updated yesterday ... I will remove it and hope it wont reboot again. I sure think it was some app as the stability test goes for 2 hours without problem.
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Its to do with location based services, HD Widgets is a major culprit and stated they were talking to Google to try and resolve the issue, it is also as stated before mainly because of the new lockscreen widgets, which HD Widgets also provide, so the stock widget could also cause the same issue?
Mine have pretty much stopped with the last update of HD Widgets, but it does still occur.

Wilks3y said:
Its to do with location based services, HD Widgets is a major culprit and stated they were talking to Google to try and resolve the issue, it is also as stated before mainly because of the new lockscreen widgets, which HD Widgets also provide, so the stock widget could also cause the same issue?
Mine have pretty much stopped with the last update of HD Widgets, but it does still occur.
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Just for your information, I dont use HD Widgets

Since you're on stock rom and kernel, I think the best way would be to reset your device and keep track of what applications are installed, one at a time.
My guess is that one of the installed apps are causing it..
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

ajhn said:
Since you're on stock rom and kernel, I think the best way would be to reset your device and keep track of what applications are installed, one at a time.
My guess is that one of the installed apps are causing it..
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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I know that, but as it was one reboot only in less than a week, it could take months to track the app down ... :laugh: Im about to restart the device myself and then use alogrec to continually record stuff.
EDIT: Alogrec is not recording a thing, so I rooted my phone. In case of restart, I believe it should be enough to save last_kmsg. Am I right?

michalurban said:
Hi,
Im just curious how to track down the reason for reboots with stock ROM and stock kernel, not rooted. I had one random reboot yesterday (when watching trailers in the IMDB app) after almost a week I own N7. I know that one reboot in a week is nothing, but its my new toy and Id like to know how to track down the reason for that in case it happens again.
I found out some threads about this and generally it says I should use LogCat - but I dont know how to use it. So I please ask for help! For now, I started Stability Test (CPU+GPU) and wait ...
Happy New Year, Y'all !!!
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I get some occasional reboot when watching Youtube videos... Leaved the stability test for 2 hours, no reboots.

ghardashyan said:
I get some occasional reboot when watching Youtube videos... Leaved the stability test for 2 hours, no reboots.
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I had my reboot when watching IMDB trailers - which also are on youtube, am I right??
BTW Is your problem repeatable? Eg. is there any time watching youtube that quarantees reboot? Id like to check that ... And are you using the youtube app?

REALLY?
Check out the thread 4.2 Random reboots instead of making new threads.
Sent from my GT-I9100

Correlation does not equal causation and it seems some are eager to go barking up the wrong tree. As has been stated here, as well as confirmed by Google, it is a bug at the OS level. It has nothing to do, per say, with HD Widgets, YouTube, or any individual app. It affects all products running 4.2 and 4.2.1.
Until Google fixes the issue, there are only two guaranteed workarounds- disable location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

najaboy said:
Correlation does not equal causation and it seems some are eager to go barking up the wrong tree. As has been stated here, as well as confirmed by Google, it is a bug at the OS level. It has nothing to do, per say, with HD Widgets, YouTube, or any individual app. It affects all products running 4.2 and 4.2.1.
Until Google fixes the issue, there are only two guaranteed workarounds- disable location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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Thanks, never heard of that. How do I disable Location Services? Should I just turn off the Location access menu? Or is it a service under running services? In that case, which one?

michalurban said:
Thanks, never heard of that. How do I disable Location Services? Should I just turn off the Location access menu? Or is it a service under running services? In that case, which one?
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Settings › Location. Bear in mind that the tradeoff is that, among other things, Google Now will no longer be functional.
For me, the reboots haven't been annoying enough to warrant disabling it on mine just yet.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

najaboy said:
Settings › Location. Bear in mind that the tradeoff is that, among other things, Google Now will no longer be functional.
For me, the reboots haven't been annoying enough to warrant disabling it on mine just yet.
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Great, thanks. :good: I disabled that for now and will turn it on only when I need navigation. I dont use Google Now anyway.
BTW, when Google finds a solution for this, should I expect a full system upgrade?

Just experienced my first random reboot while streaming a flash video on Firefox Beta..

Random reboots are annoying me as well with my stock unrooted n7
Mostly though its during wifi/network activity not just in one app, have had reboots while in youtube, ebay, chrome etc. I have also seen it reboot while in standby
All started from 4.2
Would be interested to know if these reboots are reported back to google?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

My Nexus 7 has 38 days uptime, only thing "special" I've done is I've disabled lockscreen widgets:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wordpress.chislonchow.deviceadminkeyguard
Stock 4.2.1, rooted.

[Discussion][App]Tackling the shortish battery life of our device.

Welcome to the open discussion of BetterBatteryStats.​
I would like everyone to give a big hug(and thanks) to aashay960 for finding this app:
BetterBatteryStats​
What does it do?
Well it records the power usage of every single thing that drains battery from your phone.
And when I say everything I mean everything. Wakelocks, apps, alarms, you name it.
Why the fudge would I download it?
Spontaneously this great dude in the second post had the idea to tackle the not-so-great battery life on our device when it runs an overclocked kernel and/or in general.
You will be helping us find the heavy draining apps and stuff, which would lead to their fix.
And you will increase your own battery life if you provide us with good feedback.
Woah thats great, how can I help?
Check the second post for tips tricks and instructions on how to operate this app.
I hate this app, and I hate you.
*hugs* Have a great day :3
Don't forget to hit the thanks button in the original thread for buy it from the app store if you really enjoyed working with it. :3
Note:Since i got bored i will be updating the layout from my 10.1" screen laptop. Lets see how it goes.

Guys, if we want to pull this off we will need all of you to contribute to this thread. There are a lot of factors that can affect your battery stats and I will not be surprised if everyone gets different results. But that is exactly why we need as many results as possible.
Here's what you should do..
ONE-TIME STEPS
Go to the original thread. (Link in OP)
Have a good read
Download and install the app
Open the app
Have a look around then go to Menu>Settings>Advanced> select Root features
In the main screen of the app, press "other" and select "Alarm". It will ask for superuser permission, Grant it.
STEPS WHEN REPORTING
Charge your phone fully (so that we get more data)
After you unplug your charger, go to the app and make sure the second line says "unplugged"
Then, Forget about the app (well, not completely )
Use your phone like you normally would. The more you use it, the more data we will have. Leave it overnight if you can.
IMPORTANT - DO THE NEXT STEP BEFORE YOU PLUG IN YOUR CHARGER OTHERWISE ALL WILL BE WASTED
When it is time to charge you phone again, go to the app, Select Menu>More>Raw Stats
Click on "Other" and take screen shots of the following screens
Partial wakelock (very important)
Kernel Wakelock
Alarms
Process
Network
HOW TO REPORT
Name of Rom:
Name of Kernel:
Battery drain per hour: (it is mentioned on the main screen of the app below "current")
The screen shots:
Anything else you would like to mention :laugh:
Optional - CPU Settings(max/min, governor etc)
POINTS TO REMEMBER
Your stats will depend on a LOT of factors and you will get somewhat different stats every time you charge.
Please do not post screenshots as soon as you install the app. It will be useless. The app needs time to collect data.
The more (number of hours) you use the phone, the better the stats will be.
Please visit the thread every 2 or 3 days and post your (new) results. It will hardly take time to take 5 screenshots
And dont worry, BetterbatteryStats itself will not cause any battery drain
All this might seem confusing but it is all really very simple. I have tried to make this post with extreme detail so that all the members can help.

Aww man.. I had been collecting data for almost 20 hours. Battery went from 100 to 27. Then i rebooted the phone for some other reason and now its all gone.WIll have to start again... Lesson learned

I found this guide on wakelocks that explains the most common ones. Really helpful.

OP Updated, hopefully people can get a better idea of what we are aiming for.
Also aashaay, i suggest that we elaborate on a proper etiquette and topic layout in your guide. It would be super usefull for people that are just getting started. PM me so we can find an enviorment that lets us do that.
Edit: OP maystill go under some changes, but the link will remain.

N.O.P.E.
JB MINI
7.3 pH
Hope this is right.
Sent from my HTC Desire C using xda premium

wilberfish said:
N.O.P.E.
JB MINI
7.3 pH
Hope this is right.
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Thank you for posting. The 3 major battery suckers in your phone are wifi, facebook and google services. As I myself dont use wifi, I will not be able to comment on that.
As far as facebook and google services go , I would Suggest getting an app called Greenify. I have been using this app myself and so far it has proved to be really effective. And its really easy to use.
The downside is
Facebook - No more push notifications. You will have to open the app when you want to see your notifications and stuff..
Google services - You will not be able to install apps directly from your PC. You have to go to the Play Store in your phone. I dont think this should be a big problem though.
On the upside, you will see a much better battery life and maybe a increase in performance as these apps will not constantly run in the background. They will run as usual when you personally launch them. Give this a try. Hope this helps.
PS - I would personally suggest getting rid of the facebook app and using your browser to go to m.facebook.com. That will be even better. The facebook app has been known to cause a lot of wakelocks and unnecessary background processes. It is your choice though. Best of luck

Get rid of the Facebook app, it's balls lol. I've greenified play services and so I needed to do to install from PC is open play store on my phone. No big deal. If you really don't want to use m. Facebook. What I would suggest you going for either flipster or any other substitute. Just don't use the default one. Disable Wi-Fi when you are not using it and you should be good to go :3
P.S. May I suggest you put greenify in the instructions, aashay? Like " What to do after you collected data"
Thanks
Sent from my HTC Desire C using xda app-developers app

me4488 said:
Get rid of the Facebook app, it's balls lol. I've greenified play services and so I needed to do to install from PC is open play store on my phone. No big deal. If you really don't want to use m. Facebook. What I would suggest you going for either flipster or any other substitute. Just don't use the default one. Disable Wi-Fi when you are not using it and you should be good to go :3
P.S. May I suggest you put greenify in the instructions, aashay? Like " What to do after you collected data"
Thanks
Sent from my HTC Desire C using xda app-developers app
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I dont think Greenify will 'always' be the solution to the problem. I would say as people post their stats we could help them out with it (only once though, I'm not answering the facebook thing again lol). So after a while we will have a database of problems and solutions that others users can just go through and use the 'search' button. What do you say?

aashay960 said:
I dont think Greenify will 'always' be the solution to the problem. I would say as people post their stats we could help them out with it (only once though, I'm not answering the facebook thing again lol). So after a while we will have a database of problems and solutions that others users can just go through and use the 'search' button. What do you say?
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Yeah i went ahead of myself with this. I tend to get overexcited about helping, and also the sun isnt really helping my brain work clearer.
Lets wait it out and get some more data, I should have my screenshots posted tonight if i dont accidentaly charge my phone.

Yeah me too.. I always accidentally reboot or charge before taking the screenshots

I have uninstalled fb and some other rubbish and got greenify.
Will let you know the results tonight.
Thank you both for your help.

Nope kernel
Default cm10
3.7% p/h
13 hours of runtime.
[Dat candy crush]

me4488 said:
Nope kernel
Default cm10
3.7% p/h
13 hours of runtime.
[Dat candy crush]
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I think I can help you reduce the com.android.gsf wakelock (alarm)..
>Get the app called Autorun Manager
>Go to Menu - Settings - Enable system app disable (it should be checked)
>Press home and then go back to the app
>Look for 'Google Services Framework' in the list (NOT 'Google Services')
>Uncheck anything with 'gtalkservice' in it. (There should be about 5 or 6)
I think that might help you. i did that and I rarely get alarms from that anymore. And greenify facebook messenger if you want

Cyanogenmod 10
Prometheus Kernel (800max)
Per hour - 1.8% (which is amazing)
Run Time - 1 day 5 hours 48 mins 21 secs
Screenshots attached
Comments - The major suckers were whatsapp, Onavo count and E-mail (for some strange reason).
I cannot greenify or do anything else with whatsapp and onavo because they are way too important for me.
I do NOT use push notifications for Email .I have set it to sync every 30 mins (which is pretty conservative). Maybe its a one time thing and a reboot should fix it. If it happens again in the next run, I'll look into it.

Well after doing everything you suggested and greenify almost everything I am now on 42% after 20 hrs at 1.6 pH.
Amazing people, thank you.

wilberfish said:
Well after doing everything you suggested and greenify almost everything I am now on 42% after 20 hrs at 1.6 pH.
Amazing people, thank you.
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You do know that greenify means no background processes right? That means no more push messages. Make sure you know what you are doing. Have a read about that app on the official thread on xda. It'll help you understand better.

Yes I did read up on it first. I left things like whatsapp, BBS, gmail and WiFi keep alive active.
I didn't realize just how bad fbook was.
Getting a lot better now.
Can you tell me what the deleted_wake_locks are?
Never mind, searched and found out.
The search bar is so underrated!
Thanks again.

wilberfish said:
Can you tell me what the deleted_wake_locks are?
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There is a link in post #4 of this thread which explains the common wakelocks.

Yes, sorry!
I did search when I realised how lazy just asking for solutions rather than searching was!

[Q&A] [ROM][N6] Chroma

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Anyone can tell me how is the battery with this rom on a normal day. SOT, standby time... I'm just looking a custom rom with the best battery life and performance.

jose.velez363 said:
Anyone can tell me how is the battery with this rom on a normal day. SOT, standby time... I'm just looking a custom rom with the best battery life and performance.
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Battery life is subjective to the way you use your device.
Cellular signal strength, wakelocks, refresh interval, what apps you have installed are all different factors that play a role into your daily battery. Just because I myself or somebody else has good battery life or bad battery life doesn't mean you will have the same results.
Any ROM gives good battery life as long as you have your phone set up in a way that it properly deep sleeps. I made the ROM in a way that it stays minimal without all the unnecessary features (in my opinion) and gives you Franco Kernel out of the box which already provides good battery life.

Data not working on Sprint here, and the Verizon build.prop fix didn't do much, but ROM looks basically perfect otherwise.... can't wait until I can actually use it!

industrialgrape said:
Data not working on Sprint here, and the Verizon build.prop fix didn't do much, but ROM looks basically perfect otherwise.... can't wait until I can actually use it!
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Same here. Tried to flash the sprint.zip and still a no go.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk 2

industrialgrape said:
Data not working on Sprint here, and the Verizon build.prop fix didn't do much, but ROM looks basically perfect otherwise.... can't wait until I can actually use it!
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jayharper08 said:
Same here. Tried to flash the sprint.zip and still a no go.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk 2
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I don't personally use sprint so I wasn't able to test this but I'll look into it sometime tomorrow as I'm just heading to bed.
I did include the sprint and verizon apn, the verizon data build prop being ro.telephony.get_imsi_from_sim=true correct?
Is there any cellular data at all? 4g 3g edge regular phone call signal?
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

zephiK said:
I don't personally use sprint so I wasn't able to test this but I'll look into it sometime tomorrow as I'm just heading to bed.
I did include the sprint and verizon apn, the verizon data build prop being ro.telephony.get_imsi_from_sim=true correct?
Is there any cellular data at all? 4g 3g edge regular phone call signal?
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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It seems the Sprint DM is not installed. I'm guessing that's why we have this issue? Under Carrier Settings you get a force close when trying to open.
I can send and receive SMS and a call. No MMS or other data available. I show as connected to LTE,ehrpd, 1x etc under Signal Check Lite. But no connection when trying to run a speed test etc. Great ROM, hopefully this is an easy fix. Thanks!

KB112 said:
It seems the Sprint DM is not installed. I'm guessing that's why we have this issue? Under Carrier Settings you get a force close when trying to open.
I can send and receive SMS and a call. No MMS or other data available. I show as connected to LTE,ehrpd, 1x etc under Signal Check Lite. But no connection when trying to run a speed test etc. Great ROM, hopefully this is an easy fix. Thanks!
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You can't get Mms because the stock Mms.apk is not included with this ROM. I didn't include it because people rarely ever use it anyways and can just get one from their GApps (or on Play Store). Do other ROMs you've previously used that had cellular data have SprintDM?
A log cat of Carrier Settings would help as well. So basically, you can receive text/voice calls but anything related to cell data doesn't work? Are you happening to be nationally roaming?

zephiK said:
You can't get Mms because the stock Mms.apk is not included with this ROM. I didn't include it because people rarely ever use it anyways and can just get one from their GApps (or on Play Store). Do other ROMs you've previously used that had cellular data have SprintDM?
A log cat of Carrier Settings would help as well. So basically, you can receive text/voice calls but anything related to cell data doesn't work? Are you happening to be nationally roaming?
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I can send/receive MMS when I switch on WiFi with textra. If WiFi is off, the MMS just sits there.
I've only used rooted stock and CleanROM which is stock based. Worked fine, as Sprint DM is included, not sure that's really the issue. I just wondered.
I have roaming turned on. But showed I was connected to Sprint towers. I'll mess with it a bit tomorrow if I can. Thank you.

KB112 said:
I can send/receive MMS when I switch on WiFi with textra. If WiFi is off, the MMS just sits there.
I've only used rooted stock and CleanROM which is stock based. Worked fine, as Sprint DM is included, not sure that's really the issue. I just wondered.
I have roaming turned on. But showed I was connected to Sprint towers. I'll mess with it a bit tomorrow if I can. Thank you.
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Try
Sprint data dialer reset code:
*#*#72786#*#*
Select reset then OK to confirm
No data is lost.
Most recent PRL version as of 1/7/15:
55022
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or go into dialer -> *#*#4636#*#* -> phone info -> select preferred network type.. try setting it to CDMA/LTE.
See if any of those help. If not then it could be SprintDM.apk, see if you can revert back to that ROM and then try taking that apk and putting it into /priv-app/ and then reboot. See if something shows up afterwards.
If so, upload the apk and I'll turn it into a flashable zip that you can sideload and it should work on any ROM.
I've checked through everything and I don't see any errors on my part. I have the included parts that other ROMs have included, sprintfix.zip is simply updating the APN which the ROM's APN already includes sprint.

zephiK said:
Battery life is subjective to the way you use your device.
Cellular signal strength, wakelocks, refresh interval, what apps you have installed are all different factors that play a role into your daily battery. Just because I myself or somebody else has good battery life or bad battery life doesn't mean you will have the same results.
Any ROM gives good battery life as long as you have your phone set up in a way that it properly deep sleeps. I made the ROM in a way that it stays minimal without all the unnecessary features (in my opinion) and gives you Franco Kernel out of the box which already provides good battery life.
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Just flashed it and I like it... Will be using for the next days...
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I just Flashed Chroma Rom but I want to enable Vomer Tweaks. I have follow the steps but my CPU is in the same freq. Thanks for the help

jose.velez363 said:
Just flashed it and I like it... Will be using for the next days...
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I just Flashed Chroma Rom but I want to enable Vomer Tweaks. I have follow the steps but my CPU is in the same freq. Thanks for the help
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Might be a problem with the way you're installing it. The easiest way is to install universal init.d app and then open it and then press 01VomerTweaks and top right press Play.
Assuming you have dual or quad in the right folder then it should load all the settings.

zephiK said:
Might be a problem with the way you're installing it. The easiest way is to install universal init.d app and then open it and then press 01VomerTweaks and top right press Play.
Assuming you have dual or quad in the right folder then it should load all the settings.
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I have downloaded the app selected 01VomerTweaks and press play but when I use the app CPU adjuster to verify the settings the CPU max is not underclocked. I have the dual in the folder. Screenshot attached.

zephiK said:
See if any of those help. If not then it could be SprintDM.apk, see if you can revert back to that ROM and then try taking that apk and putting it into /priv-app/ and then reboot. See if something shows up afterwards.
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Still no data, and the "carrier settings" option in cellular settings casues a com.android.phone FC just as it did before.

industrialgrape said:
Still no data, and the "carrier settings" option in cellular settings casues a com.android.phone FC just as it did before.
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Do a clean wipe and try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58133435&postcount=90
User confirmed it works with Sprint.
jose.velez363 said:
I have downloaded the app selected 01VomerTweaks and press play but when I use the app CPU adjuster to verify the settings the CPU max is not underclocked. I have the dual in the folder. Screenshot attached.
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Seeing that the app has not been updated for Lollipop and was last updated on February 24, 2014. Try another app such as Trickster to see if it still says.
Use universal init.d to apply vomertweaks.

So I just flashed to chroma and love it! Except the android keyboard won't work, and it keeps telling me that it is broken through constant pop-ups lol. I used gapps 5.0.x beta from xda, and I went with the smallest google footprint model which doesn't have google keyboard. So I can't download a keyboard because have one, and I don't have a filebrowser to sideload. How can I sideload an apk keyboard?

zephiK said:
Do a clean wipe and try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58133435&postcount=90
User confirmed it works with Sprint.
Seeing that the app has not been updated for Lollipop and was last updated on February 24, 2014. Try another app such as Trickster to see if it still says.
Use universal init.d to apply vomertweaks.
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I have downloaded Trickster and I think VomerTweaks is applied since 2 cores are offline. Thanks for the help

Warlock10000 said:
So I just flashed to chroma and love it! Except the android keyboard won't work, and it keeps telling me that it is broken through constant pop-ups lol. I used gapps 5.0.x beta from xda, and I went with the smallest google footprint model which doesn't have google keyboard. So I can't download a keyboard because have one, and I don't have a filebrowser to sideload. How can I sideload an apk keyboard?
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As indicated in OP,
You can use any GApps you want to as they're universal, I personally recommend BaNkS' GApps.
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Why are you using GApps other than the one I listed in OP? Your GApps is replacing the stock AOSP keyboard that is included with the ROM.
Use the ones I recommended in OP post.
jose.velez363 said:
I have downloaded Trickster and I think VomerTweaks is applied since 2 cores are offline. Thanks for the help
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There's a new update to VT and a new update to Franco Kernel. Be careful because conservative is better than interactive.
New build coming today.

zephiK said:
As indicated in OP,
Why are you using GApps other than the one I listed in OP? Your GApps is replacing the stock AOSP keyboard that is included with the ROM.
Use the ones I recommended in OP post.
There's a new update to VT and a new update to Franco Kernel. Be careful because conservative is better than interactive.
New build coming today.
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Just updated both. I have to make any changes on FKU app? or do anything else??

jose.velez363 said:
Just updated both. I have to make any changes on FKU app? or do anything else??
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To do what exactly?
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Very heavy battery drain

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As you can see there is heavy drain. I think it may be school WiFi sometimes it drains really heavily sometimes not. Any fixes?

In fact it was in airplane mode almost the entire time!

Use betterbatterystats to locate the problem and post here.

onolox said:
Use betterbatterystats to locate the problem and post here.
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Not rooted

AB__CD said:
Not rooted
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Use gsam battery monitor to get more detailed stats. Preferably the pro version.
Sent from my XT1092

grubber24 said:
Use gsam battery monitor to get more detailed stats. Preferably the pro version.
Sent from my XT1092
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Didn't screenshot it, but could remember Android System and OS Kernel were top two, followed by Google Services or Google Play Services. The rest were completely normal

AB__CD said:
Didn't screenshot it, but could remember Android System and OS Kernel were top two, followed by Google Services or Google Play Services. The rest were completely normal
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Android system and android OS
Your phone's wifi bluetooth NFC must always be on. Since the os is managing so much hardware, it attributes the battery used for this in system and os.
Google play services
This always drains battery by keeping mobile radio on. Google has not yet fixed this. Only connecting to wifi seems to solve this.
These issues have plagued many users running 5.0 on their phones.
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grubber24 said:
Android system and android OS
Your phone's wifi bluetooth NFC must always be on. Since the os is managing so much hardware, it attributes the battery used for this in system and os.
Google play services
This always drains battery by keeping mobile radio on. Google has not yet fixed this. Only connecting to wifi seems to solve this.
These issues have plagued many users running 5.0 on their phones.
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Bluetooth is never on, NFC is, so I should turn it off?
The battery drain even more heavily on the school WiFi than on mobile radio, which I suspect could be related to blocking Facebook and YouTube and the apps constantly trying to connect because on home WiFi the battery's absolutely fantastic..
Should I expect 5.1 to fix the issue? Because it sucks that I got 5.0 out of the box, if I'd known that 5.0 had so many issues and had the choice, probably wouldn't have upgraded.

AB__CD said:
Bluetooth is never on, NFC is, so I should turn it off?
The battery drain even more heavily on the school WiFi than on mobile radio, which I suspect could be related to blocking Facebook and YouTube and the apps constantly trying to connect because on home WiFi the battery's absolutely fantastic..
Should I expect 5.1 to fix the issue? Because it sucks that I got 5.0 out of the box, if I'd known that 5.0 had so many issues and had the choice, probably wouldn't have upgraded.
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There you go.. turn off NFC if u dont use it. And remove the facebook app as it is the heaviest battery consuming app. Also youtube won't cause any such problems. Try to turn off all the hardware you dont use like turning to 3G/2G when connected to wifi instead of 4G.
Also you may consider managing the backup features manually like settings backup and reset, Google photos auto backup.
Yes KitKat was much better at all this. But lollipop aint that bad if you dont mind managing some settings manually. I dont know if 5.1 will fix all this as i dont have it yet. Just hope it would.
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grubber24 said:
There you go.. turn off NFC if u dont use it. And remove the facebook app as it is the heaviest battery consuming app. Also youtube won't cause any such problems. Try to turn off all the hardware you dont use like turning to 3G/2G when connected to wifi instead of 4G.
Also you may consider managing the backup features manually like settings backup and reset, Google photos auto backup.
Yes KitKat was much better at all this. But lollipop aint that bad if you dont mind managing some settings manually. I dont know if 5.1 will fix all this as i dont have it yet. Just hope it would.
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Well FB doesn't show up, but CAN it drain battery when it can't connect? Not sure, wanted your guys opinion.

AB__CD said:
Well FB doesn't show up, but CAN it drain battery when it can't connect? Not sure, wanted your guys opinion.
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I used to get such heavy battery drain on my phones until i removed the fb app. Not all devices were connected to internet all the time. Since i removed it, the standby times have been great! You will miss notifications though by switching to FB in browser. You may try other fb apps like tinfoil and friendcaster if you trust those.
Hope this helps.
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grubber24 said:
I used to get such heavy battery drain on my phones until i removed the fb app. Not all devices were connected to internet all the time. Since i removed it, the standby times have been great! You will miss notifications though by switching to FB in browser. You may try other fb apps like tinfoil and friendcaster if you trust those.
Hope this helps.
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Then I'll definitely remove it and see what happens. Thanks!

AB__CD said:
Then I'll definitely remove it and see what happens. Thanks!
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I've removed it and battery has definitely improved, still have 81% at noon. Replaced it with installing an apk for FB Lite, which seems to be a lot less intensive on resources.

AB__CD said:
I've removed it and battery has definitely improved, still have 81% at noon. Replaced it with installing an apk for FB Lite, which seems to be a lot less intensive on resources.
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That's great! FB lite is good to get notifications n stuff. I just wait until we get the notifications in chrome browser working. Then all such fb apps will be useless. Hope now you get better battery life. Try Gsam battery monitor pro version so u can keep a close watch!
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That's great! FB lite is good to get notifications n stuff. I just wait until we get the notifications in chrome browser working. Then all such fb apps will be useless. Hope now you get better battery life. Try Gsam battery monitor pro version so u can keep a close watch!
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Chrome notifications will make A LOT of apps useless. Looking forward to it!

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Chrome notifications will make A LOT of apps useless. Looking forward to it!
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Yeah right now i can get those as an email though. So using the browser version instead of FB lite. Why dont u try that?
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grubber24 said:
Yeah right now i can get those as an email though. So using the browser version instead of FB lite. Why dont u try that?
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Find emails spammy, but looking forward to chrome notifications.

Anyway, this was my battery today
EDIT: Day two. Was on LTE for a while today so it was a bit worse,but still long enough for me.

Interesting bug has been reported. And I think everyone is experiencing it:
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=165558

pagep said:
Interesting bug has been reported. And I think everyone is experiencing it:
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=165558
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Yep, sucks that I never had a chance to deny the lollipop upgrade as the X I bought shipped with it out of the box. Oh well.

May have a fix for the random lagginess but requires root

Just want to compare to others as of what I may have found. After rooting my watch and installing the custom rom from janjan I was still getting the random lag. I decided to try my hand at removing a few apps just in case it could be one of the of those. I removed a few apps installed by my phone as I don't use them but the lag was still there. Lastly I removed the zenwatch manager (the app used for some custom watch faces and a few features that are not all that super useful). After removing this I have not noticed any more random slow downs. Will report back after a few more days but I think that this may solve the random lag issue.

Only beware; you'll lose the upper and lower button functionality.

re: disabling zenwatch manager
nicolahinssen said:
Only beware; you'll lose the upper and lower button functionality.
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That's the first thing I thought of too but after disabling zenwatch manager
by freezing it on my S7 Edge phone both of the programmable buttons still
worked fine and remain programmable.
I even checked to see if I can still re-assign the top and bottom buttons and
found that I could just like before I froze zenwatch manager.
After freezing zenwatch manager I still have the zenwatch manager icon in my watch along
with all the other apps but when clicking on it it tells me to install zenwatch manager so I
know that after freezing it it no longer is functioning on my watch.
So far I can tell the difference before&after freezing/disabling zenwatch manager and I have
found that I can feel and see the difference and it is true that without zenwatch manager the
watch is noticeably faster and quicker without any lag or stuttering.
My zenwatch 3 also suffered from a lot of random lag, stuttering and unresponsiveness
before I froze/disabled zenwatch manager. My watch is not rooted and I am not using twrp.
It's 100% stock waiting patiently for the Android Wear 2.0 update.
@texanman is right about zenwatch manager.
Have a great day!

I had switch to an old iphone, while I'm waiting for my new one to come and paired the watch. Now the watch is flying, no lag at all, everythings is super smooth. So weird...
I'll try this when I switch back to android. Should I install Zenwatch Manager and then disabling it ? Or is it working too if I just not install it ?

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Habaddon said:
I had switch to an old iphone, while I'm waiting for my new one to come and paired the watch. Now the watch is flying, no lag at all, everythings is super smooth. So weird...
I'll try this when I switch back to android. Should I install Zenwatch Manager and then disabling it ? Or is it working too if I just not install it ?
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Zenwatch Manager has never been a requirement, it's an optional add-on.
It can be installed before or after setting up the watch, it does not matter.
Good luck, have a great day!

Misterjunky said:
Zenwatch Manager has never been a requirement, it's an optional add-on.
It can be installed before or after setting up the watch, it does not matter.
Good luck, have a great day!
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Ok I tried it, is the remap button app linked to zenwatch manager ? It wasn't appearing until I installed it. So I uninstall it after and reboot, now it feel snapier than before on android, thx

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Ok I tried it, is the remap button app linked to zenwatch manager ? It wasn't appearing until I installed it. So I uninstall it after and reboot, now it feel snapier than before on android, thx
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You are right, zenwatch manager did contain the required firmware patch for the remap buttons
and the first time we installed the updated zenwatch manager it flashed the firmware patch to
the watch's firmware get the two remap'able buttons to work.
Once zenwatch manager flashed the remap button patch there is no more
need for zenwatch manager for that purpose.
Android Wear 2.0 will not need zenwatch manager for the firmware patch
because the new v2.0 firmware will already have the remap feature in it.
Good luck, have a great day!

Misterjunky said:
You are right, zenwatch manager did contain the required firmware patch for the remap buttons
and the first time we installed the updated zenwatch manager it flashed the firmware patch to
the watch's firmware get the two remap'able buttons to work.
Once zenwatch manager flashed the remap button patch there is no more
need for zenwatch manager for that purpose.
Android Wear 2.0 will not need zenwatch manager for the firmware patch
because the new v2.0 firmware will already have the remap feature in it.
Good luck, have a great day!
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We have to wait and actually see what Asus did to 2.0. I would not jump to conclusion just yet, even if it is highly possible the stock remapping function could be there.
And the zw manager is not needed for remapping to work. First time you push any button the button remap app will show up

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texanman said:
Just want to compare to others as of what I may have found. After rooting my watch and installing the custom rom from janjan I was still getting the random lag. I decided to try my hand at removing a few apps just in case it could be one of the of those. I removed a few apps installed by my phone as I don't use them but the lag was still there. Lastly I removed the zenwatch manager (the app used for some custom watch faces and a few features that are not all that super useful). After removing this I have not noticed any more random slow downs. Will report back after a few more days but I think that this may solve the random lag issue.
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I already booted and installed twrp recovery, so far all the rooting instructions that I have
read all say that after rooting we will still not get a writeable /system which means it will
not be possible to edit the build--prop file or any other file which is located in /system .
How did you root your watch? - Did you use any of the methods outlined here in this
xda zenwatch 3 forum? - If you have used any of the methods here in this forum did
you check if /system is read and writable ?
Thanks in advance.

Just a note...
I disabled the ASUS Manager but was still laggy.
Used "Advanced settings" app to clear all data in ASUS Manager
Lagginess FINALLY gone
Hopefully it will stay that way

Any way to apply this fix to AW 2.0? I mean i did what @WaxysDargle did but i still see stutters and lag (especially when using play music).

thagabe said:
Any way to apply this fix to AW 2.0? I mean i did what @WaxysDargle did but i still see stutters and lag (especially when using play music).
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i did this on 2.0.
make sure to disable the app, force stop it and then clear all the data. you may need to force stop and clear data a couple of times

I also found that adjusting the animation scale from 1x to 0.5X or none helps. this is under the developer options settings.

WaxysDargle said:
i did this on 2.0.
make sure to disable the app, force stop it and then clear all the data. you may need to force stop and clear data a couple of times
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so disabling the app also disables the watchfaces and the "dock mode" face, right? at least this did for me. I'm fine using watchmaker, but would like to keep the night time dock screen.
is there a way to enable this after disabling the app?
thanks!

jco23 said:
so disabling the app also disables the watchfaces and the "dock mode" face, right? at least this did for me. I'm fine using watchmaker, but would like to keep the night time dock screen.
is there a way to enable this after disabling the app?
thanks!
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i believe this is the case for me too. i actually lost all of my watch faces.
i have no idea if what you are asking is possible, but i seriously doubt it. you might be able to find an APK somehwere and sideload it for the watchface only.
personally, i forgot all about the watch faces when the laginess vanished. watch was unusable out of the box.

Do you all recommend disabling the Zen Manager app on your phone or on your watch (or both)?
Hoping to get better performance.
Thanks!

jpzsports said:
Do you all recommend disabling the Zen Manager app on your phone or on your watch (or both)?
Hoping to get better performance.
Thanks!
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from my understanding, the ZM app on the phone is NOT required.
as I mentioned earlier, I tried disabling the app on the watch, but did not see any difference.
i'm going to try some other settings adjustments (including disabling the fitness app) to see if that helps.
also trying to disable "smart reply" and just keep "ok google" enabled.

I tried all of these things and none of them had a significant impact on the watch's responsiveness or speed.
The thing that finally fixed my lag was editing build.prop and changing debug.composition.type to gpu in the two places it appears. I also changed ro.core_ctl_min_cpu from 2 to 4, removed zenfit from /system/apps, and disabled Zenwatch Manager from the watch (couldn't find an apk for it on the filesystem). The gpu parameter fixed the lag - it's just about completely gone and the UI is about as smooth as my Moto 360 v2, and I think the min CPU setting is responsible for significantly speeding up actions like launching assistant.
I've been meaning to post a writeup but haven't had the time. Two threads that were extremely helpful are this one and this one (linked to from the first). The only downside to following these instructions is I get a warning about the OS not being validated because dm-verify is turned off. Not sure if I can turn it back on with a modified build.prop, but I'm not concerned because I finally have a smooth, properly functioning watch.

saturnspike said:
I tried all of these things and none of them had a significant impact on the watch's responsiveness or speed.
The thing that finally fixed my lag was editing build.prop and changing debug.composition.type to gpu in the two places it appears. I also changed ro.core_ctl_min_cpu from 2 to 4, removed zenfit from /system/apps, and disabled Zenwatch Manager from the watch (couldn't find an apk for it on the filesystem). The gpu parameter fixed the lag - it's just about completely gone and the UI is about as smooth as my Moto 360 v2, and I think the min CPU setting is responsible for significantly speeding up actions like launching assistant.
I've been meaning to post a writeup but haven't had the time. Two threads that were extremely helpful are this one and this one (linked to from the first). The only downside to following these instructions is I get a warning about the OS not being validated because dm-verify is turned off. Not sure if I can turn it back on with a modified build.prop, but I'm not concerned because I finally have a smooth, properly functioning watch.
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Editing the build.prop on the phone or watch? And if so, I presume you have rooted the watch?
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I didn't root. Fundamentally all you need to do is get the watch booted into twrp one time so you can mount /system, adb pull build.prop, make the edits I mentioned, then adb push it back and reboot.