Nexus 6 not multitasking?
I just purchased a Nexus 6 that I'm using on Verizon. The phone is completely stock(5.1.1). I've noticed that when I'm on a phone call, I'm unable to use Google maps or anything else that involves data. I was also listening to Sirius radio via the ap. When I tried reading a text, the Sirius player would stop playing. It's as if I'm unable to mulitask at all with the Nexus. Is this the case with this particular phone? I never had an issue with my Note 3? Thanks for any input...
Do you have advanced calling on your account? If so then it should work as it will use 3G data when your using VoLTE.
It's free, so if that's not already on the account add it and then it will work.
iRub1Out said:
Do you have advanced calling on your account? If so then it should work as it will use 3G data when your using VoLTE.
It's free, so if that's not already on the account add it and then it will work.
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I have no idea. I never had a problem before the Nexus so I assume I do. I'll check though. Thanks!
Yup - Just log into the account and go to features - add that feature and then on the phone under cellular networks check the "advanced calling" thing (it might turn on by itself) - then it's for sure working.
why does verizon do tbeir system like this? lol. for nearly every other network, once you connect, everything works properly. oh well, i guess thats one reason that im not with verizon
simms22 said:
why does verizon do tbeir system like this? lol. for nearly every other network, once you connect, everything works properly. oh well, i guess thats one reason that im not with verizon
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Because not every phone has this ability - so why would they offer it or implement it on devices that can't use it? Then they would expect it to work, but since the device can't, it doesnt work - then the customer is all pissed. I agree that it's kind of dumb that you have to add it to the account prior to it working on the phone - I feel like if the phone can do it, and it's free anyway, why wouldn't it just add it from the git-go? That's kinda stupid.
They don't do it any weird or unusual way. The devices that CAN use it, have the option to use it, those that dont...dont.
simms22 said:
why does verizon do tbeir system like this? lol. for nearly every other network, once you connect, everything works properly.
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Because not every phone has this ability - so why would they offer it or implement it on devices that can't use it? Then they would expect it to work, but since the device can't, it doesnt work - then the customer is all pissed. I agree that it's kind of dumb that you have to add it to the account prior to it working on the phone - I feel like if the phone can do it, and it's free anyway, why wouldn't it just add it from the git-go? That's kinda stupid.
They don't do it any weird or unusual way. The devices that CAN use it, have the option to use it, those that dont...dont.
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they could do it the way GSM carriers do - if you have a device that supports that capability, it works. If not, it doesn't work. User doesn't have to go change any settings, or call carrier to change something on account etc.
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Because not every phone has this ability - so why would they offer it or implement it on devices that can't use it? Then they would expect it to work, but since the device can't, it doesnt work - then the customer is all pissed. I agree that it's kind of dumb that you have to add it to the account prior to it working on the phone - I feel like if the phone can do it, and it's free anyway, why wouldn't it just add it from the git-go? That's kinda stupid.
They don't do it any weird or unusual way. The devices that CAN use it, have the option to use it, those that dont...dont.
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every phone does have the ability, just not on verizon. my first smartphone i bought in 2003, and have been using data on voice calls with tmobile since then. the problem is that verizon isnt a gsm carrier but a cdma carrier. sprint has the same issue with vouce and data(at least verizon offers Volte), but not as much as verizon. att and tmobile never had the issue. many phones dont have this issue on verizon anymore because now they add two different radios to verizon phones, to catch a voice signal, and a data signal. on tmobile and sprint, they have one radio, because you can have voice and data on a gsm provider.
I was just speaking on a per-verizon service situation - since that's what the OP has. I know it has worked for a long time on other carriers.
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I was just speaking on a per-verizon service situation - since that's what the OP has. I know it has worked for a long time on other carriers.
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ahh.. well then it makes more sense :angel:
iRub1Out said:
Yup - Just log into the account and go to features - add that feature and then on the phone under cellular networks check the "advanced calling" thing (it might turn on by itself) - then it's for sure working.
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I just activated it, thanks!!!!!
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So ##DATA# seems to get you into EPST, but I'm not sure how to get my MSL as "MSL Reader" from Play Store doesn't work (I do have root).
I noticed that EVRC-B is enabled, but both HOME ORIG and ROAM ORIG is set to EVRC. I'd like to change this to EVRC-B.
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So ##DATA# seems to get you into EPST, but I'm not sure how to get my MSL as "MSL Reader" from Play Store doesn't work (I do have root).
I noticed that EVRC-B is enabled, but both HOME ORIG and ROAM ORIG is set to EVRC. I'd like to change this to EVRC-B.
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I went to Sprint.com and initiated a chat session and told the person that I was going to enable evrc-b and that I need my msl. She willingly gave me the number with no issue.
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Is there any reason why one would not want to switch this? I understand it's an improvement on the voice codec for calls, but it begs the question why it isn't used in the first place. Could there be limited support between devices or towers? Or is it only a limitation to the airraves as I recall reading this in the past?
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Is there any reason why one would not want to switch this? I understand it's an improvement on the voice codec for calls, but it begs the question why it isn't used in the first place. Could there be limited support between devices or towers? Or is it only a limitation to the airraves as I recall reading this in the past?
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I've used it on my last 2 phones for 3+ years and never had an issue.
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Is there any reason why one would not want to switch this? I understand it's an improvement on the voice codec for calls, but it begs the question why it isn't used in the first place. Could there be limited support between devices or towers? Or is it only a limitation to the airraves as I recall reading this in the past?
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I don't believe it works with Airaves and maybe some rural towers.
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So ##DATA# seems to get you into EPST, but I'm not sure how to get my MSL as "MSL Reader" from Play Store doesn't work (I do have root).
I noticed that EVRC-B is enabled, but both HOME ORIG and ROAM ORIG is set to EVRC. I'd like to change this to EVRC-B.
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I was able to get my MSL using this method:
MSL Guide
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I've used it on my last 2 phones for 3+ years and never had an issue.
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I have never used this option before but have seen it, what exactly are the pros and cons to using one or the other?
thanks guys
I did the same thing. I did an echat and instantly got my MSL. All I said was that I want to enable evrc-b and require my MSL and I got it within 2 minutes
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Now, I know somethings. But there was a lot of other options inside that menu... I know evrc-b is an enhanced evrc codec but... What the he'll are the other options. 13k? IS-something?
Also, a Google search was vague. What is DDTM and why is it disabled by default? I read something about it being related to making voice calls with an active data connection.
Also, I did this which for some reason did increase my data speeds. Like noticeably. Or maybe not speeds, just more data integrity.
Under the PDM (last option) I changed the IP value from v4 to v4v6 (each option) and I noticed instant difference while using Chrome. Like a Web page I having an issue loading before (which is why I took a peek in the first place) loaded instantly. And I've had no issue since. At least not yet
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I found this post here helpful too.. Thanks
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I found this post here helpful too.. Thanks
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Thank you. You gave me something else to Google and answered all my questions. Basically. With sprints choppy network EVRC-B should be the best all around. 13k could be good if you lived next to a tower. Lol.
Also, for those who don't know. If you ever do mess up something MINOR in these menus, ##SCRTN# and then reset values. The phone will reboot and then do a hands free activation. It will reset anything you did in those menus.
Except! Your Vocoder will not reset. Nor will your DDTM settings.
Everything else does. I did a little playing around. even killed my LTE at one point. Lol. Fixed it with the reset though. No more playing for me.
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How does the update that includes HD voice get implemented and does switching to EVRC-B affect the implementation? I have read that HD voice is based in the EVRC-NW codec but I don't see that as a choice even after the update.
TIA
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I have VZW service. The Nexus 6 is from TMobile. In my infinite wisdom or rather the lack their off. I decided that I was over not having data while talking. I downloaded the VZW LMY47E image and followed the instructions found in the Nexus 6 general sticky roll up. How to flash factory images.
The short method did not work but the long method did. I rooted it and added TWRP recovery. Apart from that I left it stock.
I dialed *#*#4636#*#*. and turned off VOLTE provisioning flag. Then I checked for enhanced 4G under phone settings and it was enabled.
Awesome right....Wrong. I decided to test it. All calls immediately end after starting them flashing 00:00 time stamp. I decided to pull my sim and put it back into my S4 and dial *228 option 1 and I can make calls using my sim. Something must have went wrong.
What that is I have no clue.
I was thinking of flashing the 5.1 TMobile image but everything that I have read suggest that if you are on VZW you should use LMY47E.
As you can imagine not having phone service kicks rocks. I figured Id ask before flashing and or making anything else worse.
Thanks in advance.
*228 should never be done on an lte device.
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akellar said:
*228 should never be done on an lte device.
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Now I know. Did I harm anything? I also booted into recovery and wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache partition. To no avail...
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Now I know. Did I harm anything? I also booted into recovery and wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache partition. To no avail...
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Typically provisions the sim to 3g prl. Likely need a new sim.
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I was thinking of flashing the 5.1 TMobile image but everything that I have read suggest that if you are on VZW you should use LMY47E.
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Flashing another factory image will do nothing to help your problem.
I agree with the above suggestion of starting with a replacement SIM.
And whatever you do, DO NOT TRY RELOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER. It will not help, and you may brick your device, unless you follow @Evolution_Freak 's guide.
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Typically provisions the sim to 3g prl. Likely need a new sim.
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FML will they give me a new sim for a phone that did not come from them? Even if the sim was locked into 3g shouldn't I be able to make calls?
Edit: I put my sim back into my S4 and it displays 3G like you said. I can make calls on the S4 but no on my Nexus 6. I put the sim back into my nexus 6 and it displays LTE but I can not make calls
onyxbfly said:
FML will they give me a new sim for a phone that did not come from them? Even if the sim was locked into 3g shouldn't I be able to make calls?
Edit: I put my sim back into my S4 and it displays 3G like you said. I can make calls on the S4 but no on my Nexus 6. I put the sim back into my nexus 6 and it displays LTE but I can not make calls
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Turn off volte and try. Either way, get a new sim
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FML will they give me a new sim for a phone that did not come from them?
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No they won't if you tell them it's for your N6. You'll have to tell them it's for a "legitimate" VZW phone.
akellar said:
Typically provisions the sim to 3g prl. Likely need a new sim.
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cam30era said:
Flashing another factory image will do nothing to help your problem.
I agree with the above suggestion of starting with a replacement SIM.
And whatever you do, DO NOT TRY RELOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER. It will not help, and you may brick your device, unless you follow @Evolution_Freak 's guide.
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I put my sim back into my S4 and it displays 3G like you said. I can make calls on the S4 but no on my Nexus 6. I put the sim back into my nexus 6 and it displays LTE but I can not make calls .
So basically you are saying just go to a Verizon store and ask for a new nano sim and ask them to activate it? Or do you suggest asking for a sim for my S4 and cutting it down to size again?
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Turn off volte and try. Either way, get a new sim
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When I dial *#*#4636#*#* my phone looks at me like Essentially I cant access that menu any more since its not dialing. I have data and it just backed up my apps from the play store.
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No they won't if you tell them it's for your N6. You'll have to tell them it's for a "legitimate" VZW phone.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try to sort it out.
I decided to try reflashing the LMY47E image again. After doing so I was able to get 3G and make and receive calls. I went to VZW and they gave me bloody hell about getting a replacement sim.
Essentially they were not having it. They wanted to see the physical phone that the card would be activated in. I went back to my car and gave them my S4. To make a long story short they gave me a VZW sim for my S4. Got back home and cut the micro down to nano. I now have LTE service.
But I do not have VOLTE. I dialed *#*#4636#*#* and turned off VOLTE provisioning flag. I have enhanced 4g calling under phone options. But I can not browse a web page or talk on the on the phone while using GPS etc. Is VOLTE supposed to be turned on or off.
With it off I do not get the enhanced 4g calling options. With it on I do get enhanced 4g. Either way it doesn't work lol. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I'm just happy to be up and running again.
Thanks once again for your time and patience with my N6!!!!!!!!
onyxbfly said:
I decided to try reflashing the LMY47E image again. After doing so I was able to get 3G and make and receive calls. I went to VZW and they gave me bloody hell about getting a replacement sim.
Essentially they were not having it. They wanted to see the physical phone that the card would be activated in. I went back to my car and gave them my S4. To make a long story short they gave me a VZW sim for my S4. Got back home and cut the micro down to nano. I now have LTE service.
But I do not have VOLTE. I dialed *#*#4636#*#* and turned off VOLTE provisioning flag. I have enhanced 4g calling under phone options. But I can not browse a web page or talk on the on the phone while using GPS etc. Is VOLTE supposed to be turned on or off.
With it off I do not get the enhanced 4g calling options. With it on I do get enhanced 4g. Either way it doesn't work lol. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I'm just happy to be up and running again.
Thanks once again for your time and patience with my N6!!!!!!!!
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Do you have advanced calling activated on your account? I don't believe that the S4 has advanced calling. You may have to put your sim card into a VZW device that requires it and then have them activate the feature.
Yea.... Did you ever activate the service on your account. You need to login in the website or call and turn the feature on. Dialing weird numbers and turning flags on in your phone won't do jack until the service is turned on within verizon.
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Do you have advanced calling activated on your account? I don't believe that the S4 has advanced calling. You may have to put your sim card into a VZW device that requires it and then have them activate the feature.
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I never had a problem with using data while talking on the phone with my S4. Regardless if it was the stock rom or not.
dansan382 said:
Yea.... Did you ever activate the service on your account. You need to login in the website or call and turn the feature on. Dialing weird numbers and turning flags on in your phone won't do jack until the service is turned on within verizon.
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Unfortunately I am a member of a family plan. I will speak to my cousin who is the account owner and ask him to double to check and see if it has been advanced calling and HD calling has been enabled on my account.
Thanks for the suggestions.
onyxbfly said:
Unfortunately I am a member of a family plan. I will speak to my cousin who is the account owner and ask him to double to check and see if it has been advanced calling and HD calling has been enabled on my account.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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i can pretty much say thats your problem. it isn't turned on by default so it needs to be turned on. no amount of flashing software or hitting buttons on your phone will help. I think you can even call the 611 number and when it gets to the voice prompts just say advanced calling one point zero. it should try to turn the feature on within that line.
onyxbfly said:
I never had a problem with using data while talking on the phone with my S4. Regardless if it was the stock rom or not.
Unfortunately I am a member of a family plan. I will speak to my cousin who is the account owner and ask him to double to check and see if it has been advanced calling and HD calling has been enabled on my account.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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The S4 had dual antennas so there was no need for the Advanced Calling feature. The Nexus only has a single antenna and requires Advanced Calling to be enabled on the account and the device in order for it to work.
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i can pretty much say thats your problem. it isn't turned on by default so it needs to be turned on. no amount of flashing software or hitting buttons on your phone will help. I think you can even call the 611 number and when it gets to the voice prompts just say advanced calling one point zero. it should try to turn the feature on within that line.
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Thanks for the number. The CS Rep said they can not make any change to the account because I dont have the password or pin.
Ironically one of the main reasons for getting a new phone was that my S4 wanted to power off randomly and it would be a chore just to get it to power back on and stay on. This time it would not turn at all so I was forced to call from my old thunderbolt.
I called the number you gave me while surfing the web on the phone. The CS Rep said that any 4G / LTE phone can use data over voice except for iphone due to their antenna construction. I guess its true I was just doing it.
But anyway it really shouldn't be a process just to get data while talking on the phone with the nexus.
The phone they have listed for my account is a S4. They said advanced calling and HD calling will be available for the S4 when they provide a software update. He had no clue to when the update would be released.
Just for Sh1t and giggles I inquired with the CS res in regards to purchasing a phone from google and using it. He said that I could go to a Verizon store and they would add it and give me a nano sim. I just thanked him for his time. I guess thats true right until you walk in their with it.
My nexus is from TMobile and from what I read people across various forums are having issues with getting their Nexus 6 added to their account regardless of where it came from.
Seems like verizon is really working hard to make the nexus 6 experience a pain in the ass. I dont need or want HD calling. Is asking to talk and look up something on the web or use gps to much to ask for....
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Thanks for the number. The CS Rep said they can not make any change to the account because I dont have the password or pin.
Ironically one of the main reasons for getting a new phone was that my S4 wanted to power off randomly and it would be a chore just to get it to power back on and stay on. This time it would not turn at all so I was forced to call from my old thunderbolt.
I called the number you gave me while surfing the web on the phone. The CS Rep said that any 4G / LTE phone can use data over voice except for iphone due to their antenna construction. I guess its true I was just doing it.
But anyway it really shouldn't be a process just to get data while talking on the phone with the nexus.
The phone they have listed for my account is a S4. They said advanced calling and HD calling will be available for the S4 when they provide a software update. He had no clue to when the update would be released.
Just for Sh1t and giggles I inquired with the CS res in regards to purchasing a phone from google and using it. He said that I could go to a Verizon store and they would add it and give me a nano sim. I just thanked him for his time. I guess thats true right until you walk in their with it.
My nexus is from TMobile and from what I read people across various forums are having issues with getting their Nexus 6 added to their account regardless of where it came from.
Seems like verizon is really working hard to make the nexus 6 experience a pain in the ass. I dont need or want HD calling. Is asking to talk and look up something on the web or use gps to much to ask for....
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no problem. you dont even need to speak with anyone in order to activate. some people reported just using the prompts, speaking with a machine it was able to turn it on. either way, good luck and glad you got some info.
I literally just got back from best buy with my unbranded unlocked nexus 6. they didnt have any "verizon versions". I will be cutting my sim card thats in my GS4 and throwing it into the nexus so i wont have to deal with verizon. i already had them send me a nano sim so just in case i have a backup. if i completely mess it up, ill go back to verizon and get a new sim for my GS4 and start over again
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The S4 had dual antennas so there was no need for the Advanced Calling feature. The Nexus only has a single antenna and requires Advanced Calling to be enabled on the account and the device in order for it to work.
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Thanks for the clarification. I did not know.
How should I go about this? I called and they said the phone that is listed is a S4. Currently advanced calling is not enabled for the S4. They said I would need to do a phone swap and or sim swap for a newer phone. If the phone is not listed on my account/ number what do I tell ask or tell them so they will enable it?
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no problem. you dont even need to speak with anyone in order to activate. some people reported just using the prompts, speaking with a machine it was able to turn it on. either way, good luck and glad you got some info.
I literally just got back from best buy with my unbranded unlocked nexus 6. they didnt have any "verizon versions". I will be cutting my sim card thats in my GS4 and throwing it into the nexus so i wont have to deal with verizon. i already had them send me a nano sim so just in case i have a backup. if i completely mess it up, ill go back to verizon and get a new sim for my GS4 and start over again
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It works fresh out the box. Mine did and it was from TMobile. I didn't do factory resets or anything insert sim and load up my apps and enjoyed.
I used a sim card cutter that I got from Amazon. Cut it popped it in and everything was lovely. I didn't notice that I couldn't talk and use gps until i was actually driving. The sim cutter is a good investment because it comes with sim card adapters that will allow you to use your sim in any phone.
I wonder how the people got it activated using the prompts. Did they call from their nexus or their old verizon phone?
The only reason I decided to flash the LMY47E rom is to get data over voice. Hopefully I will get this sorted out sooner than later.
So just got the Unlocked Note 8. Had a little trouble activating it online but calling Sprint they were able to do it.
Now I know it doesn't have any of the pre-loaded Sprintware stuff on it. I don't really care about any of that. only one I ever used might have been SprintZone.
I don't need VM cause I used GoogleVoice. Though oddly enough to activate call forwarding on this phone I had to use the old *28 command. the new *73 command didn't work.
Anything else I'm missing I may or may not care about?
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So just got the Unlocked Note 8. Had a little trouble activating it online but calling Sprint they were able to do it.
Now I know it doesn't have any of the pre-loaded Sprintware stuff on it. I don't really care about any of that. only one I ever used might have been SprintZone.
I don't need VM cause I used GoogleVoice. Though oddly enough to activate call forwarding on this phone I had to use the old *28 command. the new *73 command didn't work.
Anything else I'm missing I may or may not care about?
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wifi-calling, sprint voicemail, sprint zone
Sprint Zone (My Sprint) works but you need to manually download it from the PlayStore.
Wifi calling also seems to work but extra steps to get to it. Open the Dialer, hit the 3 button in the top right. select settings, scroll to the bottom and turn on Wifi.
Sprint VM I think is definitely a no go since there is no App to download.
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wifi-calling, sprint voicemail, sprint zone
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Wifi-calling is in phone settings
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Wifi-calling is in phone settings
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More specifically calling plus is not included.
You can still voip but volte isn't on the u1.
The branded Sprint app is slightly different from the built in Samsung version on u1.
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More specifically calling plus is not included.
You can still voip but volte isn't on the u1.
The branded Sprint app is slightly different from the built in Samsung version on u1.
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Yeah the VoLTE has to be enabled via shortcut master lite...but it works as long as the wificalling switch is turned on and WiFi is off...great call sound too...
Hello,
Does anyone know if there are versions of the Google Pixel 5 that have locked bootloaders? For example on the Galaxy S10e Snapdragon model you can't enable OEM unlocking with a certain bootloader version, however on the Exynos version this isn't as much of an issue. Are there specific updates on the Google Pixel that may prevent you from using GrapheneOS? If I get a Google Pixel I want to ensure it will be compatible with GrapheneOS.
Thanks!
Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
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Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
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I'm assuming you're American? I don't live in the USA so that shouldn't be a problem. If I go to a carrier in my country I'll see if they will let me handle the phone before buying it. I'd check to see if the OEM can be unlocked. Is there anything I should test or look at on the phone to determine compatibility?
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I'm assuming you're American? I don't live in the USA so that shouldn't be a problem. If I go to a carrier in my country I'll see if they will let me handle the phone before buying it. I'd check to see if the OEM can be unlocked. Is there anything I should test or look at on the phone to determine compatibility?
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I am, sadly.
May I ask why not just buy the unlocked variant? I use it here in the US, and it seems to not be hardware specific. When I bought the Pixel 5 I was on Verizon, and switched recently to AT&T, and all it took was swapping of the sim card and all is working fine.
Are other carriers cheaper?
And If I am understanding correctly, as long as you can get into those dev settings and verify "OEM unlocking" is there and working, you are set. But, don't fall back on just my limited knowledge, as I don't really know outside the US, and as far as Pixels are concerned, once its bootloader is unlocked, nothing will be locking it down, like on Samsung. Sans strange cases like paying to unlock the bootloader of a locked down carrier variant, which I haven't come across on the Pixel 5.
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I am, sadly.
May I ask why not just buy the unlocked variant? I use it here in the US, and it seems to not be hardware specific. When I bought the Pixel 5 I was on Verizon, and switched recently to AT&T, and all it took was swapping of the sim card and all is working fine.
Are other carriers cheaper?
And If I am understanding correctly, as long as you can get into those dev settings and verify "OEM unlocking" is there and working, you are set. But, don't fall back on just my limited knowledge, as I don't really know outside the US, and as far as Pixels are concerned, once its bootloader is unlocked, nothing will be locking it down, like on Samsung. Sans strange cases like paying to unlock the bootloader of a locked down carrier variant, which I haven't come across on the Pixel 5.
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And here we come full circle once again. The problem is that unlocked does not mean bootloader unlockable which I know you know but others might not. GrapheneOS needs to have an unlocked bootloader or it will not install. I don't know how a buyer can get a business to boot into the OS in order to see if the OEM switch is active. But as you state that is really the only way to tell. @Skyty which carrier are you using? I don't know how you will get that guarantee that you can unlock the bootloader but that is really what you need to do if you can't handle the phone.
In the case of Pixels, the unlocked version has the added bonus of having an unlockable bootloader, Google doesn't seem to play the games that Samsung does. They're both carrier unlocked and don't have the bootloader super locked down.
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Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
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People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
Schroeder09 said:
People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but in my post I did say "usually" the way to go.
And, just to state, I had no issues with VoLTE on my rooted, unlocked variant P5 on Verizon, nor At&T, VoWIFI works also.. what am I doing special? Just curious. Here I am on a call using VoLTE.
Also, if they are creating VoLTE Magisk modules for China and more. This is the first complaint I've read about this issue. My HTC 10 was also an unlocked variant on Verizon with VoLTE, Wi-Fi Calling and preferred options were the same as my brother stock un-rooted Verizon variant. So, I'm lost. Sorry.
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People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
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Can you please explain this statement? I don't use wifi calling but I'm willing to test out your theories. I have an unlocked Google P5 and I'm on the Verizon network.
bobby janow said:
Can you please explain this statement? I don't use wifi calling but I'm willing to test out your theories. I have an unlocked Google P5 and I'm on the Verizon network.
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When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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I've read this about 5 times already and I still have no idea what you are talking about. I don't really use wifi calling but I'd be willing to test your theory. Walk me through the steps and tell me what I'm looking for. Wait maybe the 6th time is the charm. So if I turn on wifi calling on my phone now in a very good network setting you are saying that it will not use wifi until the network drops out right? How can I test that?
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I've read this about 5 times already and I still have no idea what you are talking about. I don't really use wifi calling but I'd be willing to test your theory. Walk me through the steps and tell me what I'm looking for. Wait maybe the 6th time is the charm. So if I turn on wifi calling on my phone now in a very good network setting you are saying that it will not use wifi until the network drops out right? How can I test that?
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Don't bother man, I give ample proof.
The "dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app" is *#*#4636#*#* FWIW. That's where my 3-4 pictures come from.
He doesn't even use his phone as a phone, but is upset about WIFI calling, so once again, I'm lost, but I won't be replying to anything he has to say. and let's just leave it alone because I don't make fake posts, and don't want to keep going off-topic, for IMO, no reason.
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When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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I don't know about you, but I USE my phone primarily as a phone., this is why own a tablet and a small 13" laptop.
And just because I do use my phone and you don't doesn't mean anything, as far as what others use theirs for, you're not to say and neither am I.
I'm up here in the boondocks with hardly ANY service on the weekends, and get crystal clear calling when I am connected to and with Wi-Fi Calling on.
No work-arounds for me, just an unlocked variant P5, rooted and on the stock ROM, now on AT&T, switched the other week.. And all I had to do was swap the SIM cards..
The only thing I suppose I can't fully check (that I'm aware of) is the "SUPER clear voice" preferred calling as IDK if it has a setting to turn on/off such as VoLTE/VoWIFI.
And even so, it's subjective to the person using and listening to the phone.
And I've been using an unlocked variant device on Verizon with "IMS, advanced calling, Wi-Fi calling and all other Verizon features" since the HTC 10!
So, just saying, this isn't exactly new. And I'm certainly not telling anyone to go out and buy anything just because I get these features.
And Bravo to these "3" people. IF they have it working and you don't, it is what it is, I guess, I don't know what to say, other than they aren't breaking any rules by posting about it.
Also, anyone who spends $600-1200 based off someone's single post.. That's on them, bro. You can't control how people spend their $$
And I'm certainly not making this post to try and shill anyone to buy an unlocked variant. Like you don't care about VoLTE, I don't care what phone someone buys.
I think these screenshots speak for themselves.
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Don't bother man, I give ample proof.
The "dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app" is *#*#4636#*#* FWIW. That's where my 3-4 pictures come from.
He doesn't even use his phone as a phone, but is upset about WIFI calling, so once again, I'm lost, but I won't be replying to anything he has to say. and let's just leave it alone because I don't make fake posts, and don't want to keep going off-topic, for IMO, no reason.
I don't know about you, but I USE my phone primarily as a phone., this is why own a tablet and a small 13" laptop.
And just because I do use my phone and you don't doesn't mean anything, as far as what others use theirs for, you're not to say and neither am I.
I'm up here in the boondocks with hardly ANY service on the weekends, and get crystal clear calling when I am connected to and with Wi-Fi Calling on.
No work-arounds for me, just an unlocked variant P5, rooted and on the stock ROM, now on AT&T, switched the other week.. And all I had to do was swap the SIM cards..
The only thing I suppose I can't fully check (that I'm aware of) is the "SUPER clear voice" preferred calling as IDK if it has a setting to turn on/off such as VoLTE/VoWIFI.
And even so, it's subjective to the person using and listening to the phone.
And I've been using an unlocked variant device on Verizon with "IMS, advanced calling, Wi-Fi calling and all other Verizon features" since the HTC 10!
So, just saying, this isn't exactly new. And I'm certainly not telling anyone to go out and buy anything just because I get these features.
And Bravo to these "3" people. IF they have it working and you don't, it is what it is, I guess, I don't know what to say, other than they aren't breaking any rules by posting about it.
Also, anyone who spends $600-1200 based off someone's single post.. That's on them, bro. You can't control how people spend their $$
And I'm certainly not making this post to try and shill anyone to buy an unlocked variant. Like you don't care about VoLTE, I don't care what phone someone buys.
I think these screenshots speak for themselves.
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^^^ one of the 3 people who gets this stuff to work.
My point to the question was that this stuff seldom works. No one knows why. It worked for you. Cool. You got lucky. There are plenty of us who never get it work with alllll the root options and magisk modules put there.
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^^^ one of the 3 people who gets this stuff to work.
My point to the question was that this stuff seldom works. No one knows why. It worked for you. Cool. You got lucky. There are plenty of us who never get it work with alllll the root options and magisk modules put there.
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No, I'm not that lucky, believe you me.
And I've let this go on long enough.
Anymore OT on this subject gets deleted.
Thank you.
I sell pixel devices basically for a living that have Graphene/Calyx on them. If its a carrier device and sitll locked to that carrier, the bootloader OEM Unlock option will be forever grayed out until the device is SIM Unlocked.
The Pixel 5 can be Unlocked, Verizon or ATT. ATT and VZW will be locked until sim unlocked
KaptinBoxxi said:
I sell pixel devices basically for a living that have Graphene/Calyx on them. If its a carrier device and sitll locked to that carrier, the bootloader OEM Unlock option will be forever grayed out until the device is SIM Unlocked.
The Pixel 5 can be Unlocked, Verizon or ATT. ATT and VZW will be locked until sim unlocked
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I saw those phones being sold for double the list price of a P5. Is that true? So basically charging a few hundred dollars to install a rom / os that anyone with a semblance of knowledge can do themselves. I'm not sure I have the details correctly so let me know if I'm wrong.
As for the second part of your statement, the VZW P5 cannot be bl unlocked no matter what you do, sim lock or not. I'm not sure about ATT.
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I saw those phones being sold for double the list price of a P5. Is that true? So basically charging a few hundred dollars to install a rom / os that anyone with a semblance of knowledge can do themselves. I'm not sure I have the details correctly so let me know if I'm wrong.
As for the second part of your statement, the VZW P5 cannot be bl unlocked no matter what you do, sim lock or not. I'm not sure about ATT.
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I usually add +40 to +75, unless I have original boxes and accessories. They really do sell for more, and people pay it.
As for the VZW P5, I have a few in my shop office right now that cannot be unlocked and their IMEI reads back as a Verizon phone, double checked by inserting another SIM and comes up locked. VZW Statement on unlocking is "if the phone was paid off (6 months of payments), it will auto unlock" .. so you probably have one that's paid off.
No, I bought the Google version. Even paid up you can't unlock the Verizon version. It's just the way they operate.
Seems like a fair price. This is the article I was talking about. https://9to5google.com/2021/09/05/n...-focused-grapheneos-that-costs-twice-as-much/
Not sure how much help there is for such an old phone but I have a Note 5 (SM-N920V) that I use with Pageplus. I had check and been told by numerous reps and websites that the phone would be fine to use and handled VoLTE. When Verizon shut the towers a few days ago my text and calls went down too. I still have data but that's it. According to Pageplus, they are aware of the issue but have no ETA (keep getting told 24 hours and that was 5 days ago) According to other techs there's a firmware issue but I can't seem to figure out what is needed to fix this. It seems like the phone is capable of VoLTE but it isn't activated and there isn't anywhere to do so. I found someone who was flashing Note 8s with the same issue but they only handle 8 and up so I'm hoping maybe someone here can help. Thanks in advance!
In settings under network configuration.
While this phone supports 4G VoLTE it may not be whitelisted by Verizon. Their side needs to be configured to accept it.
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In settings under network configuration.
While this phone supports 4G VoLTE it may not be whitelisted by Verizon. Their side needs to be configured to accept it.
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Thank you for getting back to me. How would that be handled? I can't do anything on my end as nothing is there or greyed out. Pageplus tech support is useless and there's no way to get Verizon on the line when you don't have an account with them so I'm not sure how to proceed. I can't afford to replace the phone at this time which is why I'm trying to find a way to get this to work.
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Thank you for getting back to me. How would that be handled? I can't do anything on my end as nothing is there or greyed out. Pageplus tech support is useless and there's no way to get Verizon on the line when you don't have an account with them so I'm not sure how to proceed. I can't afford to replace the phone at this time which is why I'm trying to find a way to get this to work.
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I don't know. I have AT&T, they list their white listed devices. Couldn't find Verizon's whitelist.
Sim card may need to be updated and phone's hidden settings reconfigured.