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User apps + data = FC??

After flashing some new roms lately, I've been unable to restore my user apps with data, or else the apps will force close (weirdly, some apps work okay with a data restore, but the vast majority will fc). Also, when trying to restore back to my old rom (AOKP) via Nandroid, I get an error saying cannot mount /data, stopping the process. I tried deleting all my backups, making new ones, flashing stock, and yes I follow the OP exactly. I wanted to see if anyone has ever had this issue either on this ROM or another one. Any help appreciated, thanks.

To restore a Nandroid, you actually have to flash the rom first, then after it fully boots up restore your Nandroid. As for Apps and data, try restoring the apps first, rebooting, then restoring the data.

Referring to your app restore suggestion. That doesn't work. I've tried it
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Then i don't what else to suggest. You tried downloading apps fresh, then restoring your backed up data?

Common issue for me. Just wipe data first and it should work. No need to flash the ROM
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korockinout13 said:
Common issue for me. Just wipe data first and it should work. No need to flash the ROM
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Are you saying restore app + data. Then wipe data. Then restore data again?
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mrhaley30705 said:
Then i don't what else to suggest. You tried downloading apps fresh, then restoring your backed up data?
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Yep. Doesn't work
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Use TiBu instead of Nandroid. Only had issue with porting my WiFi settings from GB to ICS.
But in general restoring apps with settings and data is a pain. That prevents me from becoming flash junkie.

I understand your concern with using nandroid. That was just a side statement. The issue is restoring USER apps with data. Why is this occurring now when it has never occurred before
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mikel.canovas said:
After flashing some new roms lately, I've been unable to restore my user apps with data, or else the apps will force close (weirdly, some apps work okay with a data restore, but the vast majority will fc).
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I just want to add that this exact same thing has happened to me on a variety of ICS ROMS (including AOKP M5) and I too follow the installation instructions including wiping and formatting.
Very annoying.

mikel.canovas said:
Are you saying restore app + data. Then wipe data. Then restore data again?
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Sorry, sorry. I was specifically referring to the nandroid backup issue. IF while restoring, you can't get past "Cannot mount /data!", THEN wipe data, and continue restoring data by doing advanced restore from there (so you don't have to restore /boot and /system again...)

korockinout13 said:
Sorry, sorry. I was specifically referring to the nandroid backup issue. IF while restoring, you can't get past "Cannot mount /data!", THEN wipe data, and continue restoring data by doing advanced restore from there (so you don't have to restore /boot and /system again...)
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Ah okay. Thanks for the tip.
So no one has any idea what's the cause of this. Everyone who has come across this issue, including myself, seem to have no clue how to fix it. There's basically an exact same q&a thread on vibrant forums with the same issue and there's like 5 people there who cannot figure out why
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What happens if you dl from market without restoring data? Still get fc's?

without restoring data? No FC. After restoring data, FC.

Hey Mikel I just flashed Docs Master v11 which just came out. For the first time in a long time I did not have the app f/c problem at all. Everything ran fine right from TIBU restore.
I flashed this ROM exactly the same way as I've flashed the last few AOKP roms. Hmmmm..
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[Q] Stupid Question

I've rooted my phone and I want to get the new MaximusHD ROM (4.3, HTC Sense, Rooted)
How can I replace my ROM while preserving my data (WhatsApp messages, pictures, etc)?
I am sorry but I am coming from the world of Apple and iTunes did everything for me. Android is a totally new beast!

Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Philipp_94 said:
Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?

wirelessrevolution said:
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I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?
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What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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sauprankul said:
What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.

wirelessrevolution said:
Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.
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Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Dirty vs Clean install
sauprankul said:
Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Yeah, TWRP lets you back up all your info. You can pick and choose and it lets you back up the current rom, so if you have issues you can go back to it. Copy that folder to a computer, because what you want to do is a dirty flash and might run into problems. It's best to flash by wiping clean and then replacing or you run into problems with the rom with some of the data.
Just my opinion.

My advice would be to read a lot more about how nandroid backups work and about how backup apps like Titanium Backup work as well before trying anything.
That being said the above advice about doing a nandroid from recovery is a must, especially if you're new to the android world and aren't sure what you're doing. The nandroid is your fail-safe in case anything goes wrong. It will allow you to restore your phone back to exactly how it was when you did the backup.
As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
1. Have a rooted device
2. Download Titanium Backup (I bought the pro version, I think you need it to do batch backup/restore)
3. Batch backup all user apps (I also backup my call log and sms/mms messages)
4. Reboot device to recovery and perform a nandroid backup
5. Flash new rom
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
7. Reboot into new rom
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.

bluetint said:
As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.
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Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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sauprankul said:
Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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The reason I say not to restore data for every app is that not every app needs it's data restored to get everything back (i.e. Google Hangouts, Facebook, Twitter, etc.) and I've always been warned that restoring data can cause issues. So my reasoning is the less I restore the better.
And I know using the free version of Titanium Backup is a PITA, that is why I said I use the paid version.
I never said to wipe media (I assume you mean the virtual sdcard) I said to wipe data/factory reset (the name of the option in CWM)
And there is nothing wrong with wiping after a flash. The wipe gets rid of user apps/data, anything installed with the rom is fine. If I'm mistaken, I apologize. However, I have never had an issue wiping after a flash.
If the OP doesn't want to follow my advice that's fine, I was simply describing what I've been doing on various devices for the last couple of years.

[Q] Titanium Backup won't Restore Now (UPDATED - PLEASE HELP)

I have a rooted HTC One with:
Android Revolution HD 20.2 by mike1986
Version 4.3
HTC Sense 5.0
Kernel: 3.4.10-geee1312
Build #: 3.09.401.1
I resolved my issue with not being able to backup. I found the legacy folder. I've since reflashed my ROM.
However, now my "restore" is stuck at 0%. It's been like this for 10 minutes. Whats going on?

NEW ISSUE: Now I can't restore. I've fixed my backup and reflashed my ROM. Now my apps won't restore back... Please help!

Same issues. Have no resolution from developer. Hate the app and it's support and don't use it anymore. Anytime I restored settings it soft bricked my phone. I use Helium now and certainly won't recommend TiBu. Glad I had 3 backups with 3 apps and put them all to the test.
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Did you guys backupped also the system app?
If yes it's this the problem.
Titanium working fine here, never had an issue

Backed up everything in batch. Restored using ever possible combination of the app and data or just getting a new app and restoring data. Soft brick every time by trying to get back anything attempted. My 2 other apps restored perfectly every single time. Developer ignored me-certainly won't recommend.
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bbinder said:
Backed up everything in batch. Restored using ever possible combination of the app and data or just getting a new app and restoring data. Soft brick every time by trying to get back anything attempted. My 2 other apps restored perfectly every single time. Developer ignored me-certainly won't recommend.
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It's normal if you're trying to restore a system app.
And the batch will backup all...
Is this the prob
It's advised to backup and restore only the data of the system app

Guich said:
It's normal if you're trying to restore a system app.
And the batch will backup all...
Is this the prob
It's advised to backup and restore only the data of the system app
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Yes, did just the data on the restore as well as app+data - had the same results with restoring apps that weren't system related as well. Just a pain that I don't have to deal with, with other backup applications. TiBu has just not been great for me at all.

Best Way to Backup

What is the best way to backup so after I do anything I can get back?
TWRP or CWM, can we even do CWM on this phone?

TWRP is just fine. Does a great job.
But if you're addicted to installing a lot of ROM's and want to backup apps and their saves/settings, I would recommend Titanium Backup (if you're rooted). Easy to dump all your apps the way they were on any new set up.

madmike23 said:
TWRP is just fine. Does a great job.
But if you're addicted to installing a lot of ROM's and want to backup apps and their saves/settings, I would recommend Titanium Backup (if you're rooted). Easy to dump all your apps the way they were on any new set up.
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I think Titanium Backup is kinda borked now. At least one of the ROM developers explicitly says not to use it, and two times I tried using it with Note 4, it was extremely frustrating. It would perform a backup just fine, but while restoring it would get stuck on this app or that. So you had to reboot after every 3-5 apps restored. Some of the restored apps would not work and had to be uninstalled and reinstalled. Others reported corrupted ROMs.
On one of recent app sales I got My Backup Pro for free. It seems to have some of the same functionality. I will give it a shot next time I am changing ROMs.

Not 100% sure. But it looks like you can do cwm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/help/cwm-note-4-t2927474/post56470611#post56470611

railshot said:
I think Titanium Backup is kinda borked now. At least one of the ROM developers explicitly says not to use it, and two times I tried using it with Note 4, it was extremely frustrating. It would perform a backup just fine, but while restoring it would get stuck on this app or that. So you had to reboot after every 3-5 apps restored. Some of the restored apps would not work and had to be uninstalled and reinstalled. Others reported corrupted ROMs...
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I haven't seen anything. I have had a few paused on me but I would close it and restart to finish the left overs. Back on the Note 3, we had the same problem on a few devices. Some has tried the TB Fixer. Dont know if it'll work on the Note 4.

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I haven't seen anything. I have had a few paused on me but I would close it and restart to finish the left overs. Back on the Note 3, we had the same problem on a few devices. Some has tried the TB Fixer. Dont know if it'll work on the Note 4.
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I guess the problems are not universal. Here's the linky to the discussion.

[Q] Trying to restore a nandroid backup

I'm trying to restore from a nandroid backup while using titanium backup however it will not restore any data
The 'extract from nandroid backup' is the option I have selected but it will spend a couple of minutes to 'analyze TWRP backup' (which is to be expected) however upon completion and upon selecting the apps & data I want to restore the system after a few minutes says the backup has finished the batch restore. This however is not the case.
I would appreciate some directions on what to do!
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MattyCLFC said:
I'm trying to restore from a nandroid backup while using titanium backup however it will not restore any data
The 'extract from nandroid backup' is the option I have selected but it will spend a couple of minutes to 'analyze TWRP backup' (which is to be expected) however upon completion and upon selecting the apps & data I want to restore the system after a few minutes says the backup has finished the batch restore. This however is not the case.
I would appreciate some directions on what to do!
Thanks :good:
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it will only restore your apps, without data. if you want to restore apps with data, then you need to back them up via titanium backup. or, you can restore your nandroid backup via twrp.

simms22 said:
it will only restore your apps, without data. if you want to restore apps with data, then you need to back them up via titanium backup. or, you can restore your nandroid backup via twrp.
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In terms of restoring the nandroid backup via TWRP does it matter that it's from a different phone (although same ROM cm12 -> cm 12.1)

MattyCLFC said:
In terms of restoring the nandroid backup via TWRP does it matter that it's from a different phone (although same ROM cm12 -> cm 12.1)
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no, it doesnt matter. ive restored nandroids before from one phone to another before. make a backup on the second phone first, then delete the backup, then put the backup that you want to restore in ths same file position the one you deleted was in. are you talking about a completely different phone, or two nexus 6?

simms22 said:
no, it doesnt matter. ive restored nandroids before from one phone to another before. make a backup on the second phone first, then delete the backup, then put the backup that you want to restore in ths same file position the one you deleted was in. are you talking about a completely different phone, or two nexus 6?
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Ah right! I'll try that thanks..
Yeah I smashed my Oneplus One last week (made a backup 2 days before the accident) so its worth trying it

MattyCLFC said:
Ah right! I'll try that thanks..
Yeah I smashed my Oneplus One last week (made a backup 2 days before the accident) so its worth trying it
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oh, if its from a completely different device, do not even try it. that can brick your n6. if its from a broken n6 to a new one, thats different. but from a one plus one, to a n6, can be dangerous.

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oh, if its from a completely different device, do not even try it. that can brick your n6. if its from a broken n6 to a new one, thats different. but from a one plus one, to a n6, can be dangerous.
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Would you have any other recommendation on what I could do to restore my apps + data.

MattyCLFC said:
Would you have any other recommendation on what I could do to restore my apps + data.
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no unfortunately

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore
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Awesome app
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