Couple couple of things here:
1) I bought a nexus 6 from the Google Play store. I got a few updates since then and also rooted the phone. What I did not notice is the build number. The build number on my phone is: LYZ82J. I searched and found that this is a T-Mobile build. This is really strange because this is not a t-mobile phone. Although my carrier IS T-mobile.
2) The reason why I noticed the build number is this: I wanted to disable the forced encryption. My nexus is running EXTREMELY slow! Its just lags after lags. And I figured maybe disabling the encryption might help.
3) I tried everything to speed up the phone. At this exact moment I have 54.64GB of storage and 1.8 GB of ram Free on my device. I have uninstalled all of the third party apps that run on background, such as Facebook. Other than the root, everything else is completely stock on this phone. I do not have anything running in the background for things like Tasks, Launcher, Gestures, etc.
4) I ran a test on Geekbench 3. Every app was closed. And no third party app was running in the background and I got 774 for single core.
Questions:
1) Why do I have T-Mobile's build on my phone. And is this the reason that the phone is slow.
2) Why is my Pure Stock Nexus 6 so slow.
3) Can I download a factory image from Google's Website and Flash a Different build number on my phone?
3) If not, how can I disable encryption. And will it help speed up my phone?
Thank you so much for your answers in advance.
Mine also has random slow downs. I can't stand it, there's no way such a powerful device should stutter from time to time. I'm running the M3 preview, rooted, i don't think i'm encrypted.
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Couple couple of things here:
1) I bought a nexus 6 from the Google Play store. I got a few updates since then and also rooted the phone. What I did not notice is the build number. The build number on my phone is: LYZ82J. I searched and found that this is a T-Mobile build. This is really strange because this is not a t-mobile phone. Although my carrier IS T-mobile.
2) The reason why I noticed the build number is this: I wanted to disable the forced encryption. My nexus is running EXTREMELY slow! Its just lags after lags. And I figured maybe disabling the encryption might help.
3) I tried everything to speed up the phone. At this exact moment I have 54.64GB of storage and 1.8 GB of ram Free on my device. I have uninstalled all of the third party apps that run on background, such as Facebook. Other than the root, everything else is completely stock on this phone. I do not have anything running in the background for things like Tasks, Launcher, Gestures, etc.
4) I ran a test on Geekbench 3. Every app was closed. And no third party app was running in the background and I got 774 for single core.
Questions:
1) Why do I have T-Mobile's build on my phone. And is this the reason that the phone is slow.
2) Why is my Pure Stock Nexus 6 so slow.
3) Can I download a factory image from Google's Website and Flash a Different build number on my phone?
3) If not, how can I disable encryption. And will it help speed up my phone?
Thank you so much for your answers in advance.
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1. I don't know the logic behind the updates, but since your on t-mobile, the updates appear to pull toward your carrier. Doesn't seem to matter that you have non branded.
2. I have always found stock to be much slower than roms. I know it's a pain, but it does help to wipe the phone from time to time.
3. Yes
4. You have use a kernel that doesn't force encrypt, and do a complete wipe to get rid of the current encryption. i dont believe it will speed up the phone to any noticeable amount.
My suggestion would be to go with a well made ROM (there are plenty).
I suggest Pure nexus ROM with hells kernel.
It will give you a stockish feel without all the stock lag.
My geekbench below, running pure and hells.
OTA builds are decided by your sim. T-Mobile sim get T-Mobile build.
Geekbench score running JDX 3.0.4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-jdx-1-0-t3121053
im glad that i was off today, from both work and xda. otherwise, id explain about whatever you ask..
I get a pretty good score running stock and always have. Maybe try reflashing a factory image and start over?
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I get a pretty good score running stock and always have. Maybe try reflashing a factory image and start over?
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are you running a custom kernel or completely stock? if completely stock, do yoj mess with your cpu at all?
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are you running a custom kernel or completely stock? if completely stock, do yoj mess with your cpu at all?
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I'm completely stock by manually flashing the image files one by one from the Google factory images page. No custom kernel or CPU tweaking. I did root and decrypt using WugFresh NRT.
EDIT: I guess decryption requires a custom kernel technically...
Always remember, those benchmarks mean nothing. the benchmark scores can easily be manipulated by the software optimization and a little system tweaks. A phone with 4 cores can get a higher score than a phone with 6 cores thanks to the system tweaks (in android particularly done in build.prop) and better software optimization. So for me benchmarks are nothing more than a little estimate and their value doesn't mean anything in the practical world.
And if you want to keep your phone upto date without any issues,you should download the nexus 6 toolkit, its the best thing to restore your phone whenever it gets bricked. It's a simple click procedure with one click rooting to boot loader unlocking, try it.
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Mine also has random slow downs. I can't stand it, there's no way such a powerful device should stutter from time to time. I'm running the M3 preview, rooted, i don't think i'm encrypted.
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Mine slows to a crawl from time to time, event the soft buttons not responding to touch for several seconds. The boot animation is similarly slow.
It's always been like this as far as I can remember. I am running CM 12.1 nightlies, encrypted.
I guess it depends on your definition of slow. I am just running plain Old stock rooted 5.1.1 encrypted and my device is fast and smooth.
I would suggest wiping the phone and starting over from stock.
Yeah I would wipe and start from scratch. In addition, I would force fstrim on /data and fsck /data /system and/cache.
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I never notice any lag on my nexus 6, its stock on page plus. I have no issues with this phone at all. My moto x pure that I had was a laggy turd, I traded it for a nexus 6
I bought my N6 about a month ago, it was running 5.0.1 during the setup it went through 6 updates until it was on 5.1.1 and build was LMY48M and it's lightning fast. I'm also on Fi network with no problems. Maybe your sim card is bad or carrier is slow. You might want to flash the latest build and a new sim.
Good Luck
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Removing encryption will definitely speed up your phone without reducing battery performance (maybe even improving it).
I'm using N6Shamu Rom with LeanKernel and find a nice balance of performance and battery life.
If you just want performance try Pure Nexus Rom
My Nexus 6 slows down a lot also. I ran geekbench 3 and was getting 700s for single core, well below avg.
This seems to happen after getting a bit warm. If I run geekbench about 2-3 times, the phone starts slowing down a lot. I'm thinking I have a hardware issue.
But other times the phone is buttery smooth as are high demanding games. Who knows.
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Does changing over CyanogenMod on a 2012 Nexus 7 Wifi 32GB, fix the extreme bad performance?
Or is it time to junk it?
There is 25+ GB free on the device, ran the memory cleanup apps, still junk. Any of the apps I try and use random freeze for 5+ seconds at a time, it is slower than my nexus 4 by far. The nexus 4 runs circles around the nexus 7.
Will installing cyanogenmod fix this?
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Does changing over CyanogenMod on a 2012 Nexus 7 Wifi 32GB, fix the extreme bad performance?
Or is it time to junk it?
There is 25+ GB free on the device, ran the memory cleanup apps, still junk. Any of the apps I try and use random freeze for 5+ seconds at a time, it is slower than my nexus 4 by far. The nexus 4 runs circles around the nexus 7.
Will installing cyanogenmod fix this?
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try purity ROM, by far the fastest and smoothest Nexus 7 ROM ive tried
P.S. no matter how much you try, the nexus 7 will NEVER be as fast as the Nexus 4
SnapDragon S4Pro > Tegra 3
The hardware has not changed, so..
Perhaps it's time to factory reset. If you're rooted, just back up with Titanium Backup and restore after if you like.
You can also try a custom kernel that has dynamic fsync or disable fsync, that'll help on IO lag. However, it won't fix it entirely. Factory reset should help there.
Tegra 3 has some bad IO problems, and the storage chips in the Nexus 7 16gb sucks, although you say you have the 32G so I'm surprised there's an issue there. But it's manageable. Trust me, mine drives me nuts too sometimes, so I factory reset about every 4-5 months, depends on when it starts pissing me off.
I have the 16GB 2012 model, and performance has been a problem. I installed KitKat and did a factory reset, that made it run quite nicely for a while.
But today it's started playing up badly, rebooting regularly. I think there might be a problem with RAM, but I can't be sure. Tried to do another factory reset, but that also makes it reboot.
Thinking about trying a different ROM, see if that sorts it out.
Purity ROM is very smooth, does not lag, no random reboots.
I do use purity and faux kernel....
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Thanks I will give that ROM a go.
I have performed quite a few factory resets, this does speed things up for a few weeks, then it slowly starts to slow down and then become pretty much unusable, like it is now.
I have left it plugged in and powered on in the hopes that the trim flash process would kick in and perform magic, but no magic results there.
The problem is NOT a ROM. It's the hardware.
Certain ROMs might be better about certain things.. Less stuff running, perhaps the kernel has different options etc.. But the problem is the device itself. Different ROMs might be slighly tweaked to make things better, or may just mask it with fsync.
That said, I like dynamic fsync, even if it's a potential loss of data. m-kernel has that. Franco's kernel has the ability to turn off fsync, but it's on by default.
Try flashing Legolas93's f2fs kernel and recovery here. Made a huge difference to the responsiveness and speed of my 32gb N7 running the latest CM11!
Hello,
I've updated my Nexus 7 first-gen recently to Android 5.0 and since than have spent a good amount of time using it. I use the tablet for work and fun through out my whole day, so snappiness is a big factor for me. With the 4.4 update, the tablet just got a lot slower, sometimes I needed to wait for a few seconds before I am able to kill a task. Clearing cache didn't fix the issue.
Made me think about that 5.0 update a lot. (Note that I actively started using the tablet only a few months ago. I had it for 2 years but broke the screen 3 weeks after buying it and only now I decided to repair it.)
The 5.0 update it self took a good 45 minutes. When I loaded it up for the first time, man it was buggy, I couldn't complete a single task without it bugging out. All of the Apps and settings were there untouched. The first thing I did, was go into recovery mode and cleared the cache. Then I cleared the cache for every individual app. And that boosted the performance by 100%. Next, the animations, I cut them down to 0.5x and turned on GPU rendering (just for testing) turns out that helped out a lot. I didn't notice a difference in load times, like some articles suggested.
However there are a few quirks, the sound lags behind the slider, so if I crank up the volume to MAX it will take a moment to do so. I often found my self having to tap the apps drawer button more than once to open it. And the killing of tasks is not as easy as before, now you have to slide from one side to the other in order to kill a task you can't just kick it to the side. Also, the auto-brightness is really aggressive so I disabled that. The WiFi status, when you click on a WiFi connection seems to be broken since in portrait mode all the letters are separated, and at first I couldn't make out any of it. And the biggest downer for me is the keyboard, I think they didn't do any favors with it. I have larger thumbs and it will take some time getting used to the keyboard. These are all small things, but they affect my experience.
Now the good stuff, where do I begin? The interface, it's great I like the design and the contrasts. Performance, I guess that's the biggest question since this is not exactly cutting edge hardware. To summarize it, it's good. I haven't had any issues since I cleared the cache, apps are running as they should, games as well, multitasking is as expected, fluid. Later on I switched the animations to 1.5x and 2.5x. no issues there. Boot up times, something completely irrelevant to me, but since there are people that would like to know, it takes around 30-40 seconds to boot up. However, Chrome is still the biggest enemy. If you want something to make your tablet miserable and make you wait and get frustrated because of it's unresponsiveness, you won't need to search far, just get Chrome.
All in all, the update was a step up, and an improvement.
These were my 2 cents on the subject. Hope it was of use to someone.
thanks for the review. I also updated a few days ago when the ota came through. So far, I'm experiencing terrible lag. I don't have anything stored on the N7 and don't have many apps. There is a ton of available storage on my 32gb. I did a factory rest about 3 months ago, as I like to every now and then to give the N7 a fresh start. I think I may have to yet again and keep my fingers crossed. Unfortunately, it's unusable at this point.
My experience has been variable, but not unexpected. In the past I have had issues with installing OTAs resulting in poor performance -- sluggish response to touch, certain apps immediately displayed odd lag, etc. Going from 4.4.4 to 5.0 was no different. So, I performed a factory reset and the effects were stark. The performance is exactly where you would expect it to be for Lollipop i.e. it is smooth.
HOWEVER, all is not well. There seems to be a set of problems that I suspect is related to Lollipop utilizing the ART runtime. Certain apps, even before performing a factory reset, were really really slow when running the first time. I have experienced this before: when I tried out ART when it became available on the Galaxy Nexus. Two common apps this occurs with are Facebook and Mint. Who's to blame? The app developers? Google? Don't know but hopefully these issues get resolved soon.
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thanks for the review. I also updated a few days ago when the ota came through. So far, I'm experiencing terrible lag. I don't have anything stored on the N7 and don't have many apps. There is a ton of available storage on my 32gb. I did a factory rest about 3 months ago, as I like to every now and then to give the N7 a fresh start. I think I may have to yet again and keep my fingers crossed. Unfortunately, it's unusable at this point.
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Ugh, that is quite an issue. Have you tried wiping the cache? You should check your usage, you might be able to find out what's hogging your system, unless it's the OS it self.
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My experience has been variable, but not unexpected. In the past I have had issues with installing OTAs resulting in poor performance -- sluggish response to touch, certain apps immediately displayed odd lag, etc. Going from 4.4.4 to 5.0 was no different. So, I performed a factory reset and the effects were stark. The performance is exactly where you would expect it to be for Lollipop i.e. it is smooth.
HOWEVER, all is not well. There seems to be a set of problems that I suspect is related to Lollipop utilizing the ART runtime. Certain apps, even before performing a factory reset, were really really slow when running the first time. I have experienced this before: when I tried out ART when it became available on the Galaxy Nexus. Two common apps this occurs with are Facebook and Mint. Who's to blame? The app developers? Google? Don't know but hopefully these issues get resolved soon.
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I also tried out the ART on some devices, mine were not even supported. There were a lot crashes but I also noticed some performance improvements.
Does factory reset also wipe the cache?
My Lollipop experience with my 16 GB WiFi-only Grouper isn't as good as yours. First, I thought I messed something up by rooting it with NRT, but after a manual factory image (flash-all.bat failed out of the box) without root it didn't get any better.
Most time its not as responsive as my N5, I've already had 1-2 minute hangs followed by hung apps (Google Search/GNL, system in most cases) and heavy lagging under most conditions. From time to time its getting close to 75-80% of the smoothness experienced on the N5 (which has better hardware, of course).
I have no idea what went wrong, I've already enabled 2D GPU hardware acceleration, but I'll definitely wipe the cache in recovery once more - you never know...
Thanks for the extensive review - Chrome is just a pain in the a** if you don't have at least 2 GB memory available.
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I suggest wiping cache, because you get to keep your apps and settings.
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My Lollipop experience with my 16 GB WiFi-only Grouper isn't as good as yours. First, I thought I messed something up by rooting it with NRT, but after a manual factory image (flash-all.bat failed out of the box) without root it didn't get any better.
Most time its not as responsive as my N5, I've already had 1-2 minute hangs followed by hung apps (Google Search/GNL, system in most cases) and heavy lagging under most conditions. From time to time its getting close to 75-80% of the smoothness experienced on the N5 (which has better hardware, of course).
I have no idea what went wrong, I've already enabled 2D GPU hardware acceleration, but I'll definitely wipe the cache in recovery once more - you never know...
Thanks for the extensive review - Chrome is just a pain in the a** if you don't have at least 2 GB memory available.
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One thing I forgot to mention is that after the cache wipe the tablet was fairly fast but I also went into Settings > Storage, and noticed I have a lot of app data which frankly shouldn't be that much. I then went and cleared cache manually on every app and as it turns out, I managed to scrape off another 1GB there. So, I'm not sure how that would affect the overhaul system performance but it sure helped me get the snappiness I have right now.
Looks like wiping the cache had an impact on performance. I wasn't able to play around much, but it definitely felt faster after first reboot.
Too bad I just noticed my user partion only had 6,x GB (8 GB image obviously) - there are so many ways you could f**k up an Android system - so I'll have to format user data once more, approximately the third or fourth time in the last week.
Sometimes I understand why people fancy those awful Apple devices, but let's hope the speed boost persists.
Go in and delete all the apps in system folder that can be installed from play store and are not needed. After installing the lollipop images you have 11mb in system which seems to be main cause of lag. I freed up like 160 mb and no lag or stuttering. Not sure why google kept things like dialer and other things unusable on the tablet in there.
Also get now launcher and delete launcher.
For even better performance get faux kernel (Set kernel up to his recommendations) and/or install aosp 5.0 F2FS with minimal 5.0 gapps.
Oh I do have a problem with WiFi being weaker on 5.0 though.
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i am getting terrible lag too. last week i updated with the OTA file. wiping the cache improved performance but only for a short time. i guess eventually if ii want the speed back on my 2012 nexus 7 i am going to have to root and go back to jellybean
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Go in and delete all the apps in system folder that can be installed from play store and are not needed. After installing the lollipop images you have 11mb in system which seems to be main cause of lag. I freed up like 160 mb and no lag or stuttering. Not sure why google kept things like dialer and other things unusable on the tablet in there.
Also get now launcher and delete launcher.
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Thanks, that sped up things significantly. It's definitely a memory problem, because event on full stock setup you're getting glances of Lollipop smoothness.
But WTH is Google delivering a potentially lagging factory image? Couldn't they just resize /system by default in order to fit in all apps nicely? Well, that's Android - if it doesn't work, you have tons of options to fix it.
After my old N7 screen broke, I got a new refurbished 16GB unit for about US$100.
Had some bootloader issue earlier while trying to flash lollipop, and had to revert back to 4.2.2. Then it got all the OTA up to lollipop, and is running really well since.
Loving it now, better than most non-lollipop newer tablets around...
Lollipop is big disappointment. I hate new notification (double swipe down to access settings)
I am back on 4.4.4 Slimkat rom with Legokernel and f2fs
now is system smooth without lags
Listening to some of the advice in this thread, I rebooted into Recovery and wiped cache (I did it 3 times, because why not, right?)
In addition, I went into the developer settings and turned OFF "Force GPU".
After doing both of those, my performance seems to have greatly improved (specifically Chrome, which was borderline unusable).
For reference, I flashed the factory image from 4.4.4, and didn't get it OTA.
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Not any more! I have three new iOS devices and things are far, far worse since iOS 8 dropped. Apple now holds the lag crown. At least with Android you can revert back to earlier versions that worked. With Apple all you can do is whimper at the master's feet.
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Go in and delete all the apps in system folder that can be installed from play store and are not needed. After installing the lollipop images you have 11mb in system which seems to be main cause of lag. I freed up like 160 mb and no lag or stuttering.
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UTTER nonsense. Stop it. System being full affects nothing; it's read-only.
Is there a way to disable the storage encryption that is enabled by default? Disabling this apparently had huge performance upgrade for the nexus 6
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Lollipop is big disappointment. I hate new notification (double swipe down to access settings)
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Swipe once with two fingers.
I've done cleaned every thing in this ROM, repeatedly. Hopefully CM 12 will make it work!
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UTTER nonsense. Stop it. System being full affects nothing; it's read-only.
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understand what you are saying but after doing so i have no lag.
Have 2 x 2012 and both were lagging. After trying other things i deleted stuff in system and both are very smooth now. Very happy with them.
Even wiped and re installed one and just deleted stuff in system, to make sure it wasn't something else or a combo of things i did prior.
Has anyone experienced this? While playing Madden Mobile it lagged quite a bit.
Yep! I have encryption disabled on mine and I have been seeing a lot of stuttering in games. I am not very happy with the performance I am seeing.
could also be that those games are not update to work with 5.0 yet. I haven't got my phone yet but if this is the case with most games, I will be disappointed.
I've been playing Soul Calibur (on sale for $4!!! Go go go!) and I was expecting it to lag. It didn't in fact the overall experience was awesome. That is why I wanted a Nexus phablet!
haven't experienced any game lag with Kingdom Rush Origins.
I'm seeing lag and stutters on Plauge Inc. and Asphalt 8 so far. I haven't tested other games as of yet. It's getting annoying. I might wipe everything and re-flash the stock image to see if it helps at all. What are you guys running right now? I'm rooted and un-encrypted on a 64GB Cloud White.
It could also be the apps themselves like Prod1702 suggested. I'm going to do a comparison with my co-workers N6 before I flash.
Update 1: I'm also seeing the stutters on the boot animation, co-worker is not on his 64GB MB. He is rooted and encrypted and has not changed DPI. I'm going to reflash stock and see if the issue persists.
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I'm seeing lag and stutters on Plauge Inc. and Asphalt 8 so far. I haven't tested other games as of yet. It's getting annoying. I might wipe everything and re-flash the stock image to see if it helps at all. What are you guys running right now? I'm rooted and un-encrypted on a 64GB Cloud White.
It could also be the apps themselves like Prod1702 suggested. I'm going to do a comparison with my co-workers N6 before I flash.
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Stock 32gb
Okay so another update for you OP. I re-flashed with the stock image and did a (manual) full wipe of the userdata using the Nexus Root Toolkit. Also did root and removed encryption again with some manual flashing.
So far no stuttering in Plague Inc like it was before. Going to re-download Asphalt 8 to make sure. If that tests well, I'm going to slowly add things back to see if I can find what caused the problem.
Update 1: Added all google accounts and exchange accounts back, also re-installed my android wear stuff so far. Still no stutter, even after a power off and power on. Perhaps the image from the factory or the OTA update caused some issues with performance. Flashing the image from google via Nexus Root Toolkit seems to have fixed it so far. I'll post if the stuttering returns. Otherwise, it looks good now.
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Okay so another update for you OP. I re-flashed with the stock image and did a (manual) full wipe of the userdata using the Nexus Root Toolkit. Also did root and removed encryption again with some manual flashing.
So far no stuttering in Plague Inc like it was before. Going to re-download Asphalt 8 to make sure. If that tests well, I'm going to slowly add things back to see if I can find what caused the problem.
Update 1: Added all google accounts and exchange accounts back, also re-installed my android wear stuff so far. Still no stutter, even after a power off and power on. Perhaps the image from the factory or the OTA update caused some issues with performance. Flashing the image from google via Nexus Root Toolkit seems to have fixed it so far. I'll post if the stuttering returns. Otherwise, it looks good now.
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Ill have to try flashing the stock image again too then. I am still using the encryption as I dont have any performance issues in homescreens and such, but most of my games lag pretty bad. it feels like they are running between 20-24 fps all the time. Rebooting doesnt help, closing all apps doesnt help. I was going to try removing encryption but it looks like people have the problem even with that. Ill just have to try reflashing the stock ROM and see if the lag goes away.
I just made a thread about this. Just purchased the new Gta Chinatown Wars for Android and it lags like crazy while driving around. Yet on my N5 it's perfectly smooth.
I'm starting to get real worried here
So I got my nexus 6 last black Friday. I have mainly been running pure nexus since then. My issues with it are many.
Terrible battery life. I'm running greenify, tasker, amplify, and better battery stats. I have improved it somewhat but I would like to know I can get a day out if it. I am not a heavy user at all. I'm at 35% an hour right now but can get it down to 8-11%. The is screen off and not many wakelocks reported. Smh.
It is laggy as hell. Chrome takes a while loading websites, keyboard takes a while coming up and sometimes doesn't come up.
I'm running elite kernal at the moment with interactive governor. I also have xposed installed with a few apps.
Can anyone give me some advice?
ok so i would backup whatever needs backing up, flash back to the latest factory image and then see if the phone acts the same.
If it is still this abomination that you describe then get it replaced/warranty.
Try that report back, good luck im interested in the outcome.
I'd go with Skinpipe's advice. But don't load all those apps back on when you test. I'd bet you have an app gone rogue with wake locks or maybe kernel issues. Anyway with a fresh new factory image - and none of your current apps, you'll know.
Thanks I will try that and report back.
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So I got my nexus 6 last black Friday. I have mainly been running pure nexus since then. My issues with it are many.
Terrible battery life. I'm running greenify, tasker, amplify, and better battery stats. I have improved it somewhat but I would like to know I can get a day out if it. I am not a heavy user at all. I'm at 35% an hour right now but can get it down to 8-11%. The is screen off and not many wakelocks reported. Smh.
It is laggy as hell. Chrome takes a while loading websites, keyboard takes a while coming up and sometimes doesn't come up.
I'm running elite kernal at the moment with interactive governor. I also have xposed installed with a few apps.
Can anyone give me some advice?
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Stock unfortunately runs like crap no matter what I tried the closest I came to Nexus 5 smoothness was stock + Elite kernel with Blu-active CPU governor. battery was still kinda crap though.
If you really want smooth I'd recommend Pure Nexus rom + elite kernel w/ blu active. <-- This is that kind of combo where you actually follow instructions and make a backup of before every update because it's so good.
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Stock unfortunately runs like crap no matter what I tried the closest I came to Nexus 5 smoothness was stock + Elite kernel with Blu-active CPU governor. battery was still kinda crap though.
If you really want smooth I'd recommend Pure Nexus rom + elite kernel w/ blu active. <-- This is that kind of combo where you actually follow instructions and make a backup of before every update because it's so good.
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you do realize that "so good" depends on the user? and your so good can be my terrible. I guess I'm better off, because I can use any custom kernel, change up how the CPU works, and become happy instantly. I'd even recommend the op to learn about governors and schedulers, what they do, and how to adjust them and everything that goes with them. I also use pure nexus BTW, but with despair kernel. despair kernel because its extremely easy to get what you want out if your CPU with it.
Thanks for all the help. I reflashed stock N and ran it for a few days. Now I'm on stock N by rocketpanda and it running 1000x better. Battery life has greatly improved. I get close to a full day now maybe even more but I have only been using it lightly. It is snappier. I put on Nova launcher but I think stock launcher was snappier. I did have to up the min CPU freq because it wasn't waking from screen off correctly. Battery life still good though. I also clean installed all apps and left off a few that I use and will just keep those on my tablet (Bluetooth apps)
One quirk is keyboard popping up slow at times. I disabled the option of letter pop-up but still acts up.
Other issues I think are app/N specific. Google play games won't log into my account. Chrome still loads slow. Bluetooth won't always turn on after turning off.
I will look into governors since it is not as fast as my old note 3. I think there is some room for improvement.
Right now I'm happy though. Don't know how much of a fan I am of preview N since still figuring it out. I have no xposed install which is fine. I am off work next week so may try going back to PN.
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Nappyloxs said:
Thanks for all the help. I reflashed stock N and ran it for a few days. Now I'm on stock N by rocketpanda and it running 1000x better. Battery life has greatly improved. I get close to a full day now maybe even more but I have only been using it lightly. It is snappier. I put on Nova launcher but I think stock launcher was snappier. I did have to up the min CPU freq because it wasn't waking from screen off correctly. Battery life still good though. I also clean installed all apps and left off a few that I use and will just keep those on my tablet (Bluetooth apps)
One quirk is keyboard popping up slow at times. I disabled the option of letter pop-up but still acts up.
Other issues I think are app/N specific. Google play games won't log into my account. Chrome still loads slow. Bluetooth won't always turn on after turning off.
I will look into governors since it is not as fast as my old note 3. I think there is some room for improvement.
Right now I'm happy though. Don't know how much of a fan I am of preview N since still figuring it out. I have no xposed install which is fine. I am off work next week so may try going back to PN.
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good to hear you sorted it out a factory reset will always do the trick
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
I'd recommend flashing a rom like pure nexus, super stable that should fix your problem, otherwise you've done all you can and is the easiest fix
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I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
5.1 said:
Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Hello,
Don't worry, it's really easy. Also, if you are lost, there must be a ton of tutorials in general section. If you are lost yet, just ask and someone will point you in the right direction...
Good luck...
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I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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I've been running Pure Nexus and wanted to let peeps know I put Nitrogen on and man it's so smooth, my wifi tether is back and I went to sleep last night with 50% battery still. When I installed it I opted for the nano gapps I think so like 175mb for minimal apps and maybe that's why it's running so efficient. Maybe I could have re-installed Pure Nexus with a clean install and it would have gotten better but it was a good time to try something else. Also when Nitrogen got an update I was notified just like stock and it downloaded. I didn't even know these could do that. Anyways give it a try and you might just switch back. I was looking into new phones but if it keeps working so smooth with battery longer than a day then I'm fine for now.
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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... It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
NLBeev said:
I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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Currently I have FB, FB messenger, and Chrome but when I installed gapps I chose a super lite install so tons of bloat and google apps were not installed and my battery has gone way up and it's so smooth. I'm sure even when we don't use apps they're always doing something in the background. I bet you're right and a stock lite ROM would be good too with the minimal bs apps.
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Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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I would flash TWRP, flash supersu in TWRP to root, make a complete backup in twrp, then remove whatever Google apps you're not using with a system app removal app. Getting some of that bloat off the device should help. If it's still laggy, then look into a custom ROM. I run Tesla on my Nexus 6 with none of the issues you're having. I don't decrypt it either
Running abdroid 7.1 here. I dont get any slowdowns, at leas until the battery doesnt drop below 50 and 25 percent.
Im running a custom kernel and my phone is rooted. Everything else is stock.
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Hello,
Since your bootloader is unlocked, flash TWRP and install the kernel, no problem.
Might give you a slight boost at first sight, but your device will likely slow down over time anyway...
Cheers...
I'm on 7.0 with the April SP. I have dozens of apps installed, including Hangouts. I use Firefox for browsing, I like it better than chrome (and you can install an ad blocker).
My camera slows down when the battery is under 40%, and the whole device slows dramatically, though not unusable, at or below 5%. But otherwise, no issues what so ever.
One solution that I have not seen suggested here is resetting the device and NOT taking the Google account backup of all your apps. I would suggest making a completely clean install of the factory rom you have and installing one or two apps at a time, most important to you first. And do this for a few days/weeks until you find the app that's misbehaving.
Although there are general bad players out there, this bad app could be unique to your device. Just because all devices of the same model have the same specs and components, doesn't mean that there isn't variability in parts quality.
I would do this before trying any new roms or kernels. Find the true problem first.
Good luck!
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I had another idea: Go into your battery stats and network stats and storage stats and see if any app seems to be using too much of any, or all of the 3. This may get you the answer more quickly.