is AAC audio works in the fancy music player of Touch Diamond?
Good question. Does anyone have a list of formats that the music player supports?
Ring tone supported formats:
- MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, WAV, and AMR-NB
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thats from expansys - so i suppose if the ringtone support is ACC you should be able to play them through the media player....
Tried myself today, it works perfectly with all my AAC encoded podcast
Hi Guys - got my Xperia a few days ago and am loving it. but ONE problem:
My videos won't play in full screen anywhere - SE Media Panel, Windows Media Player, TF3D video player. When I click on the fullscreen icon on the players, nothing happens.
I have all sorts of encoding - including all the formats, the original James Bond clip and those Angelusz provided in an other thread:
Configuration: Low Quality - 4.7MB @ 1min, 31sec. (+- 280MB for 1.5hrs of movie)
Resolution: 400x240
Framerate: 25
Video Codec: h.264
Video Bitrate: 192 kb/s
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Sampling Freq.: 22050
Audio Bitrate:: 64 kb/s
Container: mp4
Configuration: Medium Quality - 5.9MB @ 1min, 31sec. (+- 350MB for 1.5hrs of movie)
Resolution: 400x240
Framerate: 25
Video Codec: h.264
Video Bitrate: 384 kb/s
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Sampling Freq.: 44100
Audio Bitrate:: 96 kb/s
Container: mp4
Configuration: High Quality - 10.4MB @ 1min, 31sec. (+- 620MB for 1.5hrs of movie)
Resolution: 608x368
Framerate: 30
Video Codec: h.264
Video Bitrate: 768
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Sampling Freq.: 44100
Audio Bitrate:: 96 kb/s
Container: mp4
Configuration: Highest Quality - 16.8MB @ 1min, 31sec. (+- 1000MB for 1.5hrs of movie)
Resolution: 800x480
Framerate: 30
Video Codec: h.264
Video Bitrate: 1294 kb/s
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Sampling Freq.: 44100
Audio Bitrate:: 128 kb/s
Container: mp4
(almost full screen....)
And Videos recorded with the camera in QVGA mode won't play full screen either. VGA mode goes full screen automatically.
The only media player is TCMP Coreplayer, but the play back is extremely choppy.
Please help! Is there anything i need to change? do i have a faulty Xperia?
PS - even the YouTube app in TF3D plays TINY Video. and clicking Fullscreen doesn't do anything.
Anyone knows the answer to this? anyone experiencing this? HELP!!
um I tried to play recorded vids on my Xperia and they will only playback the audio, even though I got a visual thumbnail. it wont play video just the recorded audio. (happened after I installed new rom)
thats ****ed up u shold try a different rom or just un/reinstall some media players
Currently owning a vodafone smart II (really sluggish) , and I just found out this marvelous mobile . Well that said my only concern is will it play mkv on its default player ? I double checked their site (Sony) and found none info listed. Tried google and nada nada ... Well seeing this mobile has potential would be nice to know it supports MKV natively... Any one knows something please ????
zalman360 said:
Currently owning a vodafone smart II (really sluggish) , and I just found out this marvelous mobile . Well that said my only concern is will it play mkv on its default player ? I double checked their site (Sony) and found none info listed. Tried google and nada nada ... Well seeing this mobile has potential would be nice to know it supports MKV natively... Any one knows something please ????
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Yes it will Xperia 2012 devices already support mkv files
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It plays MKV out of the box, but audio support may be an issues. Either way MX Player plays MKV fine with support for most audio formats.
MKV is just a container so the real question would be it's audio and video codec.
Xperia Z/ZL or any high end android phones only support H.263, H.264, DivX, Xvid, 3GPP, 3GP2 I think that should be all the video codec it support. But as the other poster said... Just download MX Video player I use that over any stock video player 99% of the time.
MKV's work, but there are limitations. You can't select what audio track to play, it just uses whatever default track there is. Secondly there is a somewhat limited codec support. Many higher quality MKV's you find in less legal places of the interwebs use AC3 (Dolby) or DTS (or their HD variants) audio codecs which aren't supported. As far as I know it'll only play files with audio in MP3 or AAC, and I'm not sure about multi-channel AAC. Subtitles won't work either. And then some MKV files just randomly refuse to play, but I haven't identified what causes that problem.
There are two solutions:
Either just play everything with MX Player, with the HW or HW+ decoders you still have full hardware support and the benefits of Bravia Engine combined with full support for pretty much all audio codecs, multiple audio tracks and multiple subtitle tracks.
The other solution is to use software to remove unused audio tracks from your MKV's and if necessary recode your preferred audio track to stereo AAC. By far the best software to do that is Avidemux. It allows you to delete and recode streams without affecting other streams. Basically that means you can remove audio tracks you don't need and recode the one you want without having to recode the video, which is extremely fast and with recent CPU's only limited by the disk read/write speed.
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MKV's work, but there are limitations. You can't select what audio track to play, it just uses whatever default track there is. Secondly there is a somewhat limited codec support. Many higher quality MKV's you find in less legal places of the interwebs use AC3 (Dolby) or DTS (or their HD variants) audio codecs which aren't supported. As far as I know it'll only play files with audio in MP3 or AAC, and I'm not sure about multi-channel AAC. Subtitles won't work either. And then some MKV files just randomly refuse to play, but I haven't identified what causes that problem.
There are two solutions:
Either just play everything with MX Player, with the HW or HW+ decoders you still have full hardware support and the benefits of Bravia Engine combined with full support for pretty much all audio codecs, multiple audio tracks and multiple subtitle tracks.
The other solution is to use software to remove unused audio tracks from your MKV's and if necessary recode your preferred audio track to stereo AAC. By far the best software to do that is Avidemux. It allows you to delete and recode streams without affecting other streams. Basically that means you can remove audio tracks you don't need and recode the one you want without having to recode the video, which is extremely fast and with recent CPU's only limited by the disk read/write speed.
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Wow such a huge explanation given , well I think my rips combined with MX player will do the trick then and that Avidemux is a little nice tool.
Thanks all ya for your reply , always appreciated.
I'm playing local files via Bubble and a plex server. A soundbar is outputting my sound (5.1 with a wireless woofer, nothing special). What would you recommend I do with my dts in Handbrake to get the best sound (direct play compatibility is a must)? AAC (faac) with a higher bitrate and maybe some gain? AAC passthru? Any input would be appreciated. It seems that any handbrake audio searching I do brings up AC3 but that's a no go with our beloved CC.
Regards!
Does xiaomi mi 8 have hi res audio support or bult in dac or somethingelse?
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Does xiaomi mi 8 have hi res audio support or bult in dac or somethingelse?
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Yep, all snapdragon devices do. You have to bypass the main audio codecs/OS hand-offs. Programs like PowerAmp is the best for this, and hits the hardware chip directly bypassing the MIUI system to give you 24Bit audio at 192khz. Phenomenal sound. If you also bump the audio amp levels in the OS mixer file, you can get super loud audio in combination. The combo is what i've run on every phone since the HD audio was built-in to the Snapdragon.
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Yep, all snapdragon devices do. You have to bypass the main audio codecs/OS hand-offs. Programs like PowerAmp is the best for this, and hits the hardware chip directly bypassing the MIUI system to give you 24Bit audio at 192khz. Phenomenal sound. If you also bump the audio amp levels in the OS mixer file, you can get super loud audio in combination. The combo is what i've run on every phone since the HD audio was built-in to the Snapdragon.
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Do you need to root your phone to achieve this ?
Not for hires audio using Poweramp.
To make louder audio output with mixer file tweaks yes.
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Does xiaomi mi 8 have hi res audio support or bult in dac or somethingelse?
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I have been studying Android audio configuration files and experimenting with HD players for some time and I can say the Mi 8 sound incredibly well with good headphones using the USB-c adaptor included.
The problem with Android Audio is that, in general, Android Mixer will upsample everything to 48 KHz and apply Qualcomm, Android and Miui effects, such as companding, Dinamic Compresssion, and also echo cancellation to voice signal. This is not bad in general, since phone speakers are not of good quality and there is benefit to dynamics and also voice telephony is better with echo and gain which are automatic. But there are many other sound libraries such as dirac, virtualizers that are loaded automatically and used by apps.
The problem is that generic apps like Spotify, Chrome, our Youtube will upsample 44.1 Khz videos and music to 48KHz with fast resamplers, and it shows in both the speaker and headphones. Specific Hi-Res players like PowerAmp or Neutron take advantage of some profiles in android audio configuration files to present audio directly to the mixer without resampling and using high-bitrate. In reality, it is not a special codec or driver, they just use some profiles that are in most recent android phones. I discovered this a while ago and can attest that the Mi 8 sounds fantastic with both PowerAmp and Neutron, when configured correctly. I like Neutron best for better control and customization. It has a toggle for automatic samplerate adjustment and you can check that the output is as source, and use 64-bit codecs with up to 32-bit processing. For example, a same mp3 sounds much better in Neutron/PowerAmp than played in Whatsapp or a generic audio player. Neutron also has a manual hardware preamp gain apart from master volume that is really useful to contain clipping and use the hardware full amplification. Custom kernels have headphone preamps too to optimise power.
I recommend Ainur Narsil mod, it is a twrp/magisk module that tweaks some build.prop audio settings, and it modifies android audio configuration files such as audio_policy.conf and audio_effects.conf to remove these effects and add more samplerates to generic profiles on android. I have taken the time to study these files myself and have discovered that Miui default config does not take full advantage of our Mi 8 Qualcomm Snapdragon audio chipset. Out Mi 8 is capable of dual-sampling playback, that is, it is compatible with 44.1Khz and 48Khz (and multiples) playback so we don't need Android to upsample everything to 48Khz as a generic phone does. Of course, the mixer will upsample to 48 Khz when other sounds kick in (like notifications), but when you use PowerAmp/Neutron with HD output, you can get as close as bitperfect playback, since I think this profiles are direct-pcm and don't get generic effects here. (android audio configuration files such as devices and mixers are complex but a wonder to understand
I have tested Narsil, and while I don't think it improves when listening to Neutron/PowerAmp, it should help with the speaker and apps since it removes a bunch of android and miui effects. I have tweaked a bit further these audio configuration files after Narsil yesterday, and I am happy that it works the way I want. I have checked in terminal audio mixer info that it plays 44.1Khz without upsampling in a generic player. Narsil does just that also too.
Notice that is not convenient to upsample 44.1 Khz content to 192KHz, it is best to play at native bitrate. Bitsample you can set to 24 or 32-bit playback, if your hardware supports it. Mi 8 supports 32-bit. But it will sound as good in 16-bit if the source file is 16-bit, altough mp3s can benefit in 24-bit.
najabi said:
I have been studying Android audio configuration files and experimenting with HD players for some time and I can say the Mi 8 sound incredibly well with good headphones using the USB-c adaptor included.
The problem with Android Audio is that, in general, Android Mixer will upsample everything to 48 KHz and apply Qualcomm, Android and Miui effects, such as companding, Dinamic Compresssion, and also echo cancellation to voice signal. This is not bad in general, since phone speakers are not of good quality and there is benefit to dynamics and also voice telephony is better with echo and gain which are automatic. But there are many other sound libraries such as dirac, virtualizers that are loaded automatically and used by apps.
The problem is that generic apps like Spotify, Chrome, our Youtube will upsample 44.1 Khz videos and music to 48KHz with fast resamplers, and it shows in both the speaker and headphones. Specific Hi-Res players like PowerAmp or Neutron take advantage of some profiles in android audio configuration files to present audio directly to the mixer without resampling and using high-bitrate. In reality, it is not a special codec or driver, they just use some profiles that are in most recent android phones. I discovered this a while ago and can attest that the Mi 8 sounds fantastic with both PowerAmp and Neutron, when configured correctly. I like Neutron best for better control and customization. It has a toggle for automatic samplerate adjustment and you can check that the output is as source, and use 64-bit codecs with up to 32-bit processing. For example, a same mp3 sounds much better in Neutron/PowerAmp than played in Whatsapp or a generic audio player. Neutron also has a manual hardware preamp gain apart from master volume that is really useful to contain clipping and use the hardware full amplification. Custom kernels have headphone preamps too to optimise power.
I recommend Ainur Narsil mod, it is a twrp/magisk module that tweaks some build.prop audio settings, and it modifies android audio configuration files such as audio_policy.conf and audio_effects.conf to remove these effects and add more bitsamples to generic profiles on android. I have taken the time to study these files myself and have discovered that Miui default config does not take full advantage of our Mi 8 Qualcomm Snapdragon audio chipset. Out Mi 8 is capable of dual-sampling playback, that is, it is compatible with 44.1Khz and 48Khz (and multiples) playback so we don't need Android to upsample everything to 48Khz as a generic phone does. Of course, the mixer will upsample to 48 Khz when other sounds kick in (like notifications), but when you use PowerAmp/Neutron with HD output, you can get as close as bitperfect playback, since I think this profiles are direct-pcm and don't get generic effects here. (android audio configuration files such as devices and mixers are complex but a wonder to understand
I have tested Narsil, and while I don't think it improves when listening to Neutron/PowerAmp, it should help with the speaker and apps since it removes a bunch of android and miui effects. I have tweaked a bit further these audio configuration files after Narsil yesterday, and I am happy that it works the way I want. I have checked in terminal audio mixer info that it plays 44.1Khz without upsampling in a generic player. Narsil does just that also too.
Notice that is not convenient to upsample 44.1 Khz content to 192KHz, it is best to play at native bitrate. Bitsample you can set to 24 or 32-bit playback, if your hardware supports it. Mi 8 supports 32-bit. But it will sound as good in 16-bit if the source file is 16-bit, altough mp3s can benefit in 24-bit.
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I completely agree, PowerAmp is absolutely worth much more than its very small cost which I believe is $3.99 or maybe $ 4.99 It's been a long since I bought it, maybe around 5 years ago and of course I still get free updates. As you know it has every feature that you could want including screensaver animation, ID3 tag editing, and of course the sound quality is untouchable, for listening to music alone, it's perfect.
@JonathanFreeze,
Poweramp uses Dynamic EQ compression combined with the option over using Replaygain which equalises the volume across all tracks while the dynamic compression automatically adjust the sound loudness across the entire EQ spectrum, bringing out the sounds that are too quiet and taming the sounds that are too loud...a perfect balance which maximises loudness without hurting the quality by over compressing and squashing the dynamics.
In addition, it uses convolution reverb, and as @najabi mentioned you can choose to up sample based on what you are connecting to. Whether it's Bluetooth, USB C connected headphones, the built in speaker or a USB audio interface. Personally, I don't feel that it has any rivals and I also like to couple its use with Neutron when listening to music and Neutron is beneficial across the board for all of your audio uses. Our combined comments have only mentioned a few features that the Poweramp program offers. In fact, there are so many features that I could probably stretch this comment out to 2000 words or more talking about them.
Check it, you get to try it before buying! Btw, I just checked the price its $3.99 and it sounds great on the Mi8 : https://powerampapp.com/
Which by the way, although the Mi8 has a single speaker for external audio, the sound quality is very good : Here is an article with an in depth review of the sound quality : https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_8-review-1784p3.php
TLDR: Yes, the Mi8 has great sound, and we like it even better with Poweramp and Neutron.
Regarding Narsil,
@najabi I haven't tried it so I will definitely check it. Thank you very much for your vivid description.
Can someone confirm that it can stream audio using the LDAC codec please. I have read conflicting information on different sites. Thanks
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LDAC and tidal masters, sounding amazing. Well happy
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