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4.3 delayed?

I know there was a system dump of 4.3 on t Mobile, but it was said to still be in development. Some people were thinking the moto x would get faster updates being so close to stock android. However at this point we're getting close to when the heavily customized galaxy s4 is *supposed* to get its update.
Could the major camera firmware update have delayed them on 4.3? Or are we looking at another phone that will still be several months delayed getting android updates?

From what I've seen there were 3? leaks of 4.3 engineering builds so far to date for the Moto X. In addition to the standard 4.3 features, they seem to also be updating Touchless Controls, Active Display and the Camera App. Now I saw that 4.3.1 is rolling out to the Nexus 7 LTE and I'm sure we will see it released to AOSP "soon" with a list of changes as well as 4.3.1 updates for the other Nexus devices.
What I think happened is Motorola was told that 4.3.1 would be rolling out "soon" so rather than keep working on fixing bugs in 4.3.0 that could be fixed in 4.3.1, Motorola tackled the main issues such as the camera, call quality, etc for the OTA and will resync their builds with AOSP so they can go straight to 4.3.1 for their OTA.
Now I could be totally wrong but given Motorola's previous update history, the Bionic for example went from Gingerbread straight to 4.0.4 and skipped 4.0.2 and 4.0.3, from there it went straight to 4.1.2 and skipped 4.1.1. I know Motorola is rebranding themselves right now but I guess they made a calculated decision to get the biggest issues fixed first, then release the big update which will take more testing.
I also think that because Samsung and HTC released Google Play Edition devices, they got earlier access to 4.3 than Motorola did so this would explain how they've had additional time to work on integrating their UI's into 4.3. I think Google is just playing it a bit too safe in trying to ensure no one thinks Motorola is getting prefered treatment over other companies.

dpw2atox said:
From what I've seen there were 3? leaks of 4.3 engineering builds so far to date for the Moto X. In addition to the standard 4.3 features, they seem to also be updating Touchless Controls, Active Display and the Camera App. Now I saw that 4.3.1 is rolling out to the Nexus 7 LTE and I'm sure we will see it released to AOSP "soon" with a list of changes as well as 4.3.1 updates for the other Nexus devices.
What I think happened is Motorola was told that 4.3.1 would be rolling out "soon" so rather than keep working on fixing bugs in 4.3.0 that could be fixed in 4.3.1, Motorola tackled the main issues such as the camera, call quality, etc for the OTA and will resync their builds with AOSP so they can go straight to 4.3.1 for their OTA.
Now I could be totally wrong but given Motorola's previous update history, the Bionic for example went from Gingerbread straight to 4.0.4 and skipped 4.0.2 and 4.0.3, from there it went straight to 4.1.2 and skipped 4.1.1. I know Motorola is rebranding themselves right now but I guess they made a calculated decision to get the biggest issues fixed first, then release the big update which will take more testing.
I also think that because Samsung and HTC released Google Play Edition devices, they got earlier access to 4.3 than Motorola did so this would explain how they've had additional time to work on integrating their UI's into 4.3. I think Google is just playing it a bit too safe in trying to ensure no one thinks Motorola is getting prefered treatment over other companies.
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That was my other thought. Maybe have to wait longer but be better off with 4.3.1 over 4.3
Hopefully 4.4 is quick though!

mikeosu said:
That was my other thought. Maybe have to wait longer but be better off with 4.3.1 over 4.3
Hopefully 4.4 is quick though!
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or it could be skipped over for 4.4, google does have more control over it now. I am getting my moto x tomorrow I can't wait.

Maybe the S4 having been released months in advance also has something to do with it....
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enigmaco said:
or it could be skipped over for 4.4, google does have more control over it now. I am getting my moto x tomorrow I can't wait.
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Very true. I would be ok with that if it meant an earlier update! I'm probably getting one soon with that best buy deal. Too good to pass up!

The biggest fix in 4.3 was the trim support (and SE Linux, but you won't notice that)... Moto X already has trim built in so there really isn't much rush on the 4.3 front.
I'd prefer a skip to 4.4 if that makes it a faster release.

[DISCUSSION]Android 4.4.3 Update in June?!

Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?

guetzli32 said:
Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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But what's new. Samsung has newer been fast or early with updates.

They would have binned the 4.4.3 update and gone straight to 4.4.4 which makes sense really.
It shouldn't be too long now that we start seeing it roll out to the S5, but as always it's luck of the draw which region gets it first, & how long others have to wait until it reaches them which could be months.

No one really has a good track record when it comes to updates... sure sometimes some are better than others but if you want to go a non nexus device you have to deal with it

They are taking their time for sure... Sony, HTC already beat them to the punch (dunno about LG).
I only can remember the supposed document that didn't seem so real to be honest, when did Samsung publish an update schedule?
As said before in this thread, they most likely cancelled 4.4.3 to go all the way to 4.4.4 but even Sony has released that now.

i hope they will jump directly to android L

drakester09 said:
They are taking their time for sure... Sony, HTC already beat them to the punch (dunno about LG).
I only can remember the supposed document that didn't seem so real to be honest, when did Samsung publish an update schedule?
As said before in this thread, they most likely cancelled 4.4.3 to go all the way to 4.4.4 but even Sony has released that now.
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Reason for that being that both HTC & Sony software's isn't as bloated as Touchwiz is, tbh i think this generation of Touchwiz is actually worst performance wise & looks than the last gen on the Note 3 & S4.

ixon2001 said:
Reason for that being that both HTC & Sony software's isn't as bloated as Touchwiz is, tbh i think this generation of Touchwiz is actually worst performance wise & looks than the last gen on the Note 3 & S4.
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Both Sony and HTC have a lot of code to add as well, but they are executing much better.
I suspect the delays are due to Samsung pushing a lot of devices at the same time and having limited engineering resources.
Most likely they are working on the Note 4 at the moment... and the 16 new devices they keep pushing every month.

guetzli32 said:
Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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Yes, you're the only one. Do you even know what .3 and .4 updates are? They're mostly security fixes that OEMs probably fixed in their builds before Google's own Nexus factory Android.
Enviado do meu Galaxy S5

guetzli32 said:
Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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Mod Edit
A; we weren't promised the update at all. there was a rumour started because of a heavily cropped image
B,the minor security fixs were possibly put in the NG update we all just got
C you start the thread with a promise of discussion but the op is typical OEM slamming that ive come to expect.
D there is no D because the first 3 were so good

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As has been suggested , not much "Discussion" going on...
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Android 5.1.1 LMY48B Discussion Thread

Android 5.1.1 is rolling out today. This thread is to discuss about the new android iteration.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...es-for-nexus-4-nexus-5-and-cellular-nexus-7s/
Nexus 5, 5.1.1 Factory image Download link: https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/hammerhead-lmy48b-factory-596bb9c1.tgz
OTA Download:
5.1 -> 5.1.1: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...itting-devices-here-are-the-direct-ota-links/
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jlmcr87 said:
I open this thread to discuss about the new android version 5.1 Lollipop. Info here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...roid-one-phones-coming-soon-to-nexus-devices/
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I'm really excited about 5.1 version, hope it will be something like Android 4.1 - much better Android 4.0.

pianistaPL said:
I'm really excited about 5.1 version, hope it will be something like Android 4.1 - much better Android 4.0.
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That was ICS to JB this is still lollipop, i dont know if that makes a difference though.

Besides bug fixes and minor tweaks, i don't foresee anything that Android could come out with that would blow my mind.
Everything that could be done with a rom seems to have been accomplished. Now it's all just fancy bells and whistles on who can look prettier.

hope bug fixes

More news:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...oth-connections-from-the-quick-settings-menu/

Hopefully RAM management will be fixed.
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we are supposed to get silent mode back right. thats an additional feature being added not a bug fix.

According to Android Pit, yes, Silent Mode is back!
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)
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::edit:: these are rumors and not actual changes. Sorry. Silent mode is up in the air.

I'll be happy with some RAM/Battery management, but I doubt it comes too soon since we haven't got 5.0.2 yet.

As you can see 5.0.2 it´s only for tablets....

Definitely looking forward to ram & battery improvements!

Wooooow! I can't wait!

i can't wait. i hope it also fixes the gps issues that 5.0 brought to my phone (as well as a few others). I've had to roll back to kk for now

I expect a better manage for battery, since I have android 5.0.1 it consumes a lot of energy and drains my battery

Still waiting on the Camera2 API being put to use. I Wonder if this will be the first step before an update to the Google Camera app

Is there any clue as to when 5.1 could arrive? Now the news is in the open and the software seems operational, would it be a matter of days, weeks or months to arrive on Nexuses...?

Goldenrooster said:
Is there any clue as to when 5.1 could arrive? Now the news is in the open and the software seems operational, would it be a matter of days, weeks or months to arrive on Nexuses...?
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It´s seems it will be available this month.

Sadly i don't think 5.1 brings any fix to memory leak and battery life. cos from 4.4.4 to 5.0 brings no improvements except material design. i don't want to rise my expectations cos i don't want big dissapointments.

Lol WTF man?

[Q] Skipping over 5.1 to Android M?

Google has released many leaks to what Android M will offer. T Mobile has leaked the 5.1.1 software that is expected to be pushed to Galaxy s6 and s6 edge, but we only know an expected time frame for the update. Nobody has an exact date or time with credible sources to back it up. Could we possibly be getting an Android M update soon after the push of 5.1? Or maybe (going out on a limb here) could T Mobile decide to suspend the update and hold out for Android M? (They've done this before with the s3 units.)

Probably not. M is only a preview right now and 5.1 is expected to drop in mid june

lukebrantley said:
Google has released many leaks to what Android M will offer. T Mobile has leaked the 5.1.1 software that is expected to be pushed to Galaxy s6 and s6 edge, but we only know an expected time frame for the update. Nobody has an exact date or time with credible sources to back it up. Could we possibly be getting an Android M update soon after the push of 5.1? Or maybe (going out on a limb here) could T Mobile decide to suspend the update and hold out for Android M? (They've done this before with the s3 units.)
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Fact is, we definitely are not going to see M on S6 anytime soon. Firstly it won't even be official until end of the year. Secondly look at the slow lollipop roll out last year, so we may get it early 2016.
Most importantly, we don't want them to do that...no update until M? This phone needs updates to fix several things, cell standby drain, volte drain, ram management, etc...
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According to reports, international s6 will get 5.1.1 in mid June. So with any luck, we will see the update through our carriers by mid July .
As far as M , it won't be released till late October/early November. Since is not such a drastic update like KK to Lollipop we will probably see it by mid January

tenxo said:
Fact is, we definitely are not going to see M on S6 anytime soon. Firstly it won't even be official until end of the year. Secondly look at the slow lollipop roll out last year, so we may get it early 2016.
Most importantly, we don't want them to do that...no update until M? This phone needs updates to fix several things, cell standby drain, volte drain, ram management, etc...
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I completely agree that the phone needs updates like wifi calling and etc. I really hope we get the update to 5.1 as soon as possible, ad preferably, before July. I have a G3 running stock 5.1.1 currently, and the battery life is amazing (even running on a stock kernal) and I have heard a few rumors that Android M will include some security fixes and additions, as well as new multi windows and some new developer options to adjust over/under clocking of the cpu. I have high hopes for M. I hope that we eventually, on the stock rom and kernal, can do some of the M stuff on the s6. It's a great phone with great potential.

lukebrantley said:
I completely agree that the phone needs updates like wifi calling and etc. I really hope we get the update to 5.1 as soon as possible, ad preferably, before July. I have a G3 running stock 5.1.1 currently, and the battery life is amazing (even running on a stock kernal) and I have heard a few rumors that Android M will include some security fixes and additions, as well as new multi windows and some new developer options to adjust over/under clocking of the cpu. I have high hopes for M. I hope that we eventually, on the stock rom and kernal, can do some of the M stuff on the s6. It's a great phone with great potential.
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True about the potential of S6. Just shocks the heck out of me that Samsung didn't notice the ram management, or didn't think it a issue in the testing phase. At first it didn't bother me, but more and more (unless it's gotten worse) it's been shutting stuff down randomly while only doing like two or three things.
And then Google...I don't get them either. Why does it take as long as six months and longer for the roll out to get to some devices especially the new ones, note 4? I know carries have something to do with that as well but if you release it say October they should penalize carries if they haven't shipped it by end of December. The whole nexus thing first should be thrown out the window since they are now releasing main stream phones not just geared at developers.
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tenxo said:
True about the potential of S6. Just shocks the heck out of me that Samsung didn't notice the ram management, or didn't think it a issue in the testing phase. At first it didn't bother me, but more and more (unless it's gotten worse) it's been shutting stuff down randomly while only doing like two or three things.
And then Google...I don't get them either. Why does it take as long as six months and longer for the roll out to get to some devices especially the new ones, note 4? I know carries have something to do with that as well but if you release it say October they should penalize carries if they haven't shipped it by end of December. The whole nexus thing first should be thrown out the window since they are now releasing main stream phones not just geared at developers.
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Samsung makes great phones. Hell, they pioneered the phablet idea with the Note series. My only problem with them is that they miss key features very often. For example, the ram management on the s6 and the whole overload of TouchWiz on the s3-s5 units. My battery has (this week) been decently lasting me the most of the day. Standby drain is sometimes present, but that's when I know I have to end some processes via greenify without root permissions. I'm really looking to root after the 5.1 update to get the full effect of greenify, as well as deleting some bloatware. Right now, the basic greenify is saving me tons of battery life. I recommend it. My G3 had awesome battery life stock, and even better with my custom roms.
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New OTA update (G870AUCS2CPB4)

AT&T just pushed out another update. We'll see how it performs. Still no 6.0 Marshmallow....

Sgt.CM said:
AT&T just pushed out another update. We'll see how it performs. Still no 6.0 Marshmallow....
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Mine just popped up too.

I don't get it why are they stalling

Somewhat dissappointing
The AT&T page doesn't even show this update yet. Somewhat of a mystery.

They just did:
Software update includes
Device security improvements
Disappointing...

i thought i saw there was a problem with 6.0 and not being to unlock phones with pin/ fingerprint after updating..

_LEM_ said:
They just did:
Software update includes
Device security improvements
Disappointing...
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There's nothing disappointing about improved security when it comes to my mobile device.
For shame with that attitude.
Bad dog, that is a no-no.

TOP SECURITY JOE said:
There's nothing disappointing about improved security when it comes to my mobile device.
For shame with that attitude.
Bad dog, that is a no-no.
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Well, most of us are waiting for Marshmallow. We are almost the last ones to get that update.
However if this update makes you happy, that's cool.

TOP SECURITY JOE said:
There's nothing disappointing about improved security when it comes to my mobile device.
For shame with that attitude.
Bad dog, that is a no-no.
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Its pretty disappointing when every other major carrier in the US has released Marshmallow for the S5 weeks ago, and they're still sitting here dilly dallying with security updates. Fine security updates are good, but we want Marshmallow end of story.

Anyone care to share the update here? I have to use Odin, no AT&T account. Thanks.

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Well, most of us are waiting for Marshmallow. We are almost the last ones to get that update.
However if this update makes you happy, that's cool.
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It's too late. You are already a bad dog.

Its a little early...but based on some very heavy use yesterday...this update seems as stable as all the other Lollipop builds to date.
Based on what I've seen from other carrier flavors of Marshmallow on this device...about the only thing that Marshmallow is going to give me is the ability to sideload GoodLock and MAYBE better mem management in regards to suspended apps/multi-tasking. Its not like Marshmallow is going to magically give me 2 hours extra SOT and make me a ham sandwich or something...Lollipop builds have been stable, bug free, been delivering 4-6 hours SOT, relatively snappy performance and the ability to go many days without a reboot based upon my use...and I don't think that will change drastically with Marshmallow. I'll probably keep this device for another year/year and a half anyway...so it will happen when it happens.
Even though it is annoying that the locked bootloader is keeping me from root and the ability to modify a few things (like running AdAway and uninstalling bloatware) and due to the fact that I can't run Xposed on Lollipop with Samsung ROMS anyway...this phone on AT&T has been one of the most stable, dependable devices I've owned to date.

mwrobe1 said:
Its a little early...but based on some very heavy use yesterday...this update seems as stable as all the other Lollipop builds to date.
Based on what I've seen from other carrier flavors of Marshmallow on this device...about the only thing that Marshmallow is going to give me is the ability to sideload GoodLock and MAYBE better mem management in regards to suspended apps/multi-tasking. Its not like Marshmallow is going to magically give me 2 hours extra SOT and make me a ham sandwich or something...Lollipop builds have been stable, bug free, been delivering 4-6 hours SOT, relatively snappy performance and the ability to go many days without a reboot based upon my use...and I don't think that will change drastically with Marshmallow. I'll probably keep this device for another year/year and a half anyway...so it will happen when it happens.
Even though it is annoying that the locked bootloader is keeping me from root and the ability to modify a few things (like running AdAway and uninstalling bloatware) and due to the fact that I can't run Xposed on Lollipop with Samsung ROMS anyway...this phone on AT&T has been one of the most stable, dependable devices I've owned to date.
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Package Disabler Pro in the playstore will disable bloat. Does a real nice job.
Se​nt fr​om my SM-G870A
Peace

So.... anyone able to post the update file for this one? Those without ATT sim are in dire need of it...