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First impressions of Android L for Note 4

Some of you may have installed the recent Lollipop update, if so what are your first impressions "Was it worth the Waiting"
Has TW improved & what the changes?
Howz Battery life & overall Performance?
Does ART have a notable impact and do you miss the Xposed functionality? (Xposed now updated for Snapdragon & soon will be Exynos.
There are many more questions but these in time are best answered by people having updated, I myself will wait because I'm presently happy with KitKat.

Just downloading the N910K ver now, I get back to you in a day or two.

sucks
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end

Sounds a huge let down, oh well, I still have a N910G on KitKat.

oiwnos said:
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
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Thanks Oiwnos for the reply., Sorry your first impression is not positive, was it a OTA update or did you flash as clean install?

asia559571 said:
Thanks Oiwnos for the reply., Sorry your first impression is not positive, was it a OTA update or did you flash as clean install?
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Clean install . of 4.4.4 then ota . the antutu test happenend with just the phone's apps

Have found first few issues with 5.0.1 stock:
1. Heartrate sensor is almost always active -- if you put your finger or anything else on the sensor it's going to flash red. All the time, even after reboot and no SHealth running.
2. Interruptions mode settings are not complete. HERE you can see how it's done in S5 lollipop firmware, but in Note4 I don't have "Sound mode" settings and no interruprions settings from the volume button menu, only through Settings -- Sound Notifications -- Interruptions.
Next update needed.

oiwnos said:
Clean install . of 4.4.4 then ota . the antutu test happenend with just the phone's apps
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Question! Is running ART? if yes, is there an option to go back to Dalvik.

There's no new API for camera. Google, Motorola, Sony and (I guess) LG imported them. Just Sammy doesn't updated it in Lollipop. Pretty dissapointing as it was the only feature that I wanted in this version. Note 3, S5 and S4 are affected too.

galaxynote2 said:
There's no new API for camera. Google, Motorola, Sony and (I guess) LG imported them. Just Sammy doesn't updated it in Lollipop. Pretty dissapointing as it was the only feature that I wanted in this version. Note 3, S5 and S4 are affected too.
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Only Google has actually used the Camera2 API in the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6.
Motorola, HTC, Sony and LG are all not using them on their Lollipop updates. We may expect them to support it on 5.0 released devices like the S6+

I hope this isnt final!
oiwnos said:
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
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If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.

ddaharu said:
If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
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i got 49607 at AnTuTu now with Lollipop (and the device was hot before the test, so, could got more points if was colder) .. Strange that i have loose 1500 points on multitasking and won 1500 points too on execution time.. the rest still the same value +/- that was on 4.4.4.
i've no bug with S-health sensor, stays off until i choose some function on S-heath app
Same problem with interruptions (incomplete)
The rest the ROM it's faster and smoother than 4.4.4, very beautiful too...

ddaharu said:
If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
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1. 64 bit wouldn't do diddly squat for the performance of your phone. Hardly anyone even utilizes the power of 64 bit on desktop work let alone a phone.
2. download more ram? Say wha???

willowpc said:
i got 49607 at AnTuTu now with Lollipop (and the device was hot before the test, so, could got more points if was colder) .. Strange that i have loose 1500 points on multitasking and won 1500 points too on execution time.. the rest still the same value +/- that was on 4.4.4.
i've no bug with S-health sensor, stays off until i choose some function on S-heath app
Same problem with interruptions (incomplete)
The rest the ROM it's faster and smoother than 4.4.4, very beautiful too...
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thanks bro! well this makes me feel a lot better. I'll just wait for it to come out on my n910h
Sublation said:
1. 64 bit wouldn't do diddly squat for the performance of your phone. Hardly anyone even utilizes the power of 64 bit on desktop work let alone a phone.
2. download more ram? Say wha???
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lol yeah ur right!
Sent from my SM-N910C using XDA Free mobile app

Blazing fast Dirty installed over my 4.4.4 X-Note installation. Everything works without problems. No FC's. Simply perfectly smooth. Waiting for custom ROMs with blacked out ui

asia559571 said:
Some of you may have installed the recent Lollipop update, if so what are your first impressions "Was it worth the Waiting"
Has TW improved & what the changes?
Howz Battery life & overall Performance?
Does ART have a notable impact and do you miss the Xposed functionality?
There are many more questions but these in time are best answered by people having updated, I myself will wait because I'm presently happy with KitKat.
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A simple review video :
youtu.be/s392gzrgU34
Portuguese-BR
Like and subs.
I will post a CM12 review too when it "comes out"

Wrong forum?! I think topic must be moved to general or Q&A section.
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After install the Lollipop N910C, i found that now, when you click com Quick Glance, you got a menu with options to what you want to show on the quick glance, but i can't get this to work, the settings gives me FC when i click on Try It, and the quick glance doesn't works at all...
Have any possibility that any developer can enable this ?

Deadly Sto(R)m said:
Wrong forum?! I think topic must be moved to general or Q&A section.
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Why wrong forum? Why don't you focus on something instead of being a mini-mod. These are exciting times because of Lollipop.

4.4.4 vs 5.0.1

[Q] Skipping over 5.1 to Android M?

Google has released many leaks to what Android M will offer. T Mobile has leaked the 5.1.1 software that is expected to be pushed to Galaxy s6 and s6 edge, but we only know an expected time frame for the update. Nobody has an exact date or time with credible sources to back it up. Could we possibly be getting an Android M update soon after the push of 5.1? Or maybe (going out on a limb here) could T Mobile decide to suspend the update and hold out for Android M? (They've done this before with the s3 units.)

Probably not. M is only a preview right now and 5.1 is expected to drop in mid june

lukebrantley said:
Google has released many leaks to what Android M will offer. T Mobile has leaked the 5.1.1 software that is expected to be pushed to Galaxy s6 and s6 edge, but we only know an expected time frame for the update. Nobody has an exact date or time with credible sources to back it up. Could we possibly be getting an Android M update soon after the push of 5.1? Or maybe (going out on a limb here) could T Mobile decide to suspend the update and hold out for Android M? (They've done this before with the s3 units.)
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Fact is, we definitely are not going to see M on S6 anytime soon. Firstly it won't even be official until end of the year. Secondly look at the slow lollipop roll out last year, so we may get it early 2016.
Most importantly, we don't want them to do that...no update until M? This phone needs updates to fix several things, cell standby drain, volte drain, ram management, etc...
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According to reports, international s6 will get 5.1.1 in mid June. So with any luck, we will see the update through our carriers by mid July .
As far as M , it won't be released till late October/early November. Since is not such a drastic update like KK to Lollipop we will probably see it by mid January

tenxo said:
Fact is, we definitely are not going to see M on S6 anytime soon. Firstly it won't even be official until end of the year. Secondly look at the slow lollipop roll out last year, so we may get it early 2016.
Most importantly, we don't want them to do that...no update until M? This phone needs updates to fix several things, cell standby drain, volte drain, ram management, etc...
Sent from my SM-G920T
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I completely agree that the phone needs updates like wifi calling and etc. I really hope we get the update to 5.1 as soon as possible, ad preferably, before July. I have a G3 running stock 5.1.1 currently, and the battery life is amazing (even running on a stock kernal) and I have heard a few rumors that Android M will include some security fixes and additions, as well as new multi windows and some new developer options to adjust over/under clocking of the cpu. I have high hopes for M. I hope that we eventually, on the stock rom and kernal, can do some of the M stuff on the s6. It's a great phone with great potential.

lukebrantley said:
I completely agree that the phone needs updates like wifi calling and etc. I really hope we get the update to 5.1 as soon as possible, ad preferably, before July. I have a G3 running stock 5.1.1 currently, and the battery life is amazing (even running on a stock kernal) and I have heard a few rumors that Android M will include some security fixes and additions, as well as new multi windows and some new developer options to adjust over/under clocking of the cpu. I have high hopes for M. I hope that we eventually, on the stock rom and kernal, can do some of the M stuff on the s6. It's a great phone with great potential.
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True about the potential of S6. Just shocks the heck out of me that Samsung didn't notice the ram management, or didn't think it a issue in the testing phase. At first it didn't bother me, but more and more (unless it's gotten worse) it's been shutting stuff down randomly while only doing like two or three things.
And then Google...I don't get them either. Why does it take as long as six months and longer for the roll out to get to some devices especially the new ones, note 4? I know carries have something to do with that as well but if you release it say October they should penalize carries if they haven't shipped it by end of December. The whole nexus thing first should be thrown out the window since they are now releasing main stream phones not just geared at developers.
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tenxo said:
True about the potential of S6. Just shocks the heck out of me that Samsung didn't notice the ram management, or didn't think it a issue in the testing phase. At first it didn't bother me, but more and more (unless it's gotten worse) it's been shutting stuff down randomly while only doing like two or three things.
And then Google...I don't get them either. Why does it take as long as six months and longer for the roll out to get to some devices especially the new ones, note 4? I know carries have something to do with that as well but if you release it say October they should penalize carries if they haven't shipped it by end of December. The whole nexus thing first should be thrown out the window since they are now releasing main stream phones not just geared at developers.
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Samsung makes great phones. Hell, they pioneered the phablet idea with the Note series. My only problem with them is that they miss key features very often. For example, the ram management on the s6 and the whole overload of TouchWiz on the s3-s5 units. My battery has (this week) been decently lasting me the most of the day. Standby drain is sometimes present, but that's when I know I have to end some processes via greenify without root permissions. I'm really looking to root after the 5.1 update to get the full effect of greenify, as well as deleting some bloatware. Right now, the basic greenify is saving me tons of battery life. I recommend it. My G3 had awesome battery life stock, and even better with my custom roms.
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Ota update

Anyone receive the mysterious ota that sprint was supposed to roll out a few weeks back?
Disappointed that LG went from no lollipop updates, to weekly updates(after stage fright) back to no real updates until M.

I had a notification to install the OTA last night

Just saw the change log. Not too much. It seems to be more of a 3rd party app update and potentially locking the camera down more for rooting. I'll know more when it reaches us.
Still bothered that all the other big players have 5.1.1 and stage fright fixes, while LG has opted to once again go with a new version of Android instead of going with a more reliable patched version. I'm happy we will see M, but probably never any major updates to it.

Oh is there any more information available regarding LG or Sprint plans to update the LG G4 to Android M, or at least where could I read more about this?

There are quite a few but here is the gist, http://www.techtimes.com/articles/6...droid-5-1-1-lollipop-update-for-android-m.htm

babyschmoof said:
Just saw the change log. Not too much. It seems to be more of a 3rd party app update and potentially locking the camera down more for rooting. I'll know more when it reaches us.
Still bothered that all the other big players have 5.1.1 and stage fright fixes, while LG has opted to once again go with a new version of Android instead of going with a more reliable patched version. I'm happy we will see M, but probably never any major updates to it.
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The way LG does things we usually don't see the .x updates. For example 5.1 to 5.1.1. But they still roll the fixes within the version. So the fixes promised by Google in 5.1.1 are present in the ZV6 update:
Memory leak ✔
Play services & Location batt drain ✔
Security fixes ✔
Performance lag free ✔
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New OTA update (G870AUCS2CPB4)

AT&T just pushed out another update. We'll see how it performs. Still no 6.0 Marshmallow....

Sgt.CM said:
AT&T just pushed out another update. We'll see how it performs. Still no 6.0 Marshmallow....
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Mine just popped up too.

I don't get it why are they stalling

Somewhat dissappointing
The AT&T page doesn't even show this update yet. Somewhat of a mystery.

They just did:
Software update includes
Device security improvements
Disappointing...

i thought i saw there was a problem with 6.0 and not being to unlock phones with pin/ fingerprint after updating..

_LEM_ said:
They just did:
Software update includes
Device security improvements
Disappointing...
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There's nothing disappointing about improved security when it comes to my mobile device.
For shame with that attitude.
Bad dog, that is a no-no.

TOP SECURITY JOE said:
There's nothing disappointing about improved security when it comes to my mobile device.
For shame with that attitude.
Bad dog, that is a no-no.
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Well, most of us are waiting for Marshmallow. We are almost the last ones to get that update.
However if this update makes you happy, that's cool.

TOP SECURITY JOE said:
There's nothing disappointing about improved security when it comes to my mobile device.
For shame with that attitude.
Bad dog, that is a no-no.
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Its pretty disappointing when every other major carrier in the US has released Marshmallow for the S5 weeks ago, and they're still sitting here dilly dallying with security updates. Fine security updates are good, but we want Marshmallow end of story.

Anyone care to share the update here? I have to use Odin, no AT&T account. Thanks.

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Well, most of us are waiting for Marshmallow. We are almost the last ones to get that update.
However if this update makes you happy, that's cool.
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It's too late. You are already a bad dog.

Its a little early...but based on some very heavy use yesterday...this update seems as stable as all the other Lollipop builds to date.
Based on what I've seen from other carrier flavors of Marshmallow on this device...about the only thing that Marshmallow is going to give me is the ability to sideload GoodLock and MAYBE better mem management in regards to suspended apps/multi-tasking. Its not like Marshmallow is going to magically give me 2 hours extra SOT and make me a ham sandwich or something...Lollipop builds have been stable, bug free, been delivering 4-6 hours SOT, relatively snappy performance and the ability to go many days without a reboot based upon my use...and I don't think that will change drastically with Marshmallow. I'll probably keep this device for another year/year and a half anyway...so it will happen when it happens.
Even though it is annoying that the locked bootloader is keeping me from root and the ability to modify a few things (like running AdAway and uninstalling bloatware) and due to the fact that I can't run Xposed on Lollipop with Samsung ROMS anyway...this phone on AT&T has been one of the most stable, dependable devices I've owned to date.

mwrobe1 said:
Its a little early...but based on some very heavy use yesterday...this update seems as stable as all the other Lollipop builds to date.
Based on what I've seen from other carrier flavors of Marshmallow on this device...about the only thing that Marshmallow is going to give me is the ability to sideload GoodLock and MAYBE better mem management in regards to suspended apps/multi-tasking. Its not like Marshmallow is going to magically give me 2 hours extra SOT and make me a ham sandwich or something...Lollipop builds have been stable, bug free, been delivering 4-6 hours SOT, relatively snappy performance and the ability to go many days without a reboot based upon my use...and I don't think that will change drastically with Marshmallow. I'll probably keep this device for another year/year and a half anyway...so it will happen when it happens.
Even though it is annoying that the locked bootloader is keeping me from root and the ability to modify a few things (like running AdAway and uninstalling bloatware) and due to the fact that I can't run Xposed on Lollipop with Samsung ROMS anyway...this phone on AT&T has been one of the most stable, dependable devices I've owned to date.
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Package Disabler Pro in the playstore will disable bloat. Does a real nice job.
Se​nt fr​om my SM-G870A
Peace

So.... anyone able to post the update file for this one? Those without ATT sim are in dire need of it...

What is the benefits of Oreo?

I still haven't revived Oreo update here in Thailand. When it is released, before I install it, I'm curious what is the benefit of installing Oreo? Note 8 already does everything it's supposed do, will this update make anything better or provides any new features?

having a locked bootloader.

Sitti01 said:
I still haven't revived Oreo update here in Thailand. When it is released, before I install it, I'm curious what is the benefit of installing Oreo? Note 8 already does everything it's supposed do, will this update make anything better or provides any new features?
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significantly worse battery backup and lags and bugs here and there..and that's pretty much about it...

Surprise surprise. That's why I have stuck to 7.1.1 and rooted the device.
Every new update to any Samsung device introduces bugs and kills battery life. Personally it offers little advantage and I'm not the least bit interested in upgrading.
Why waste time changing something that works well just for the sake of it?

-New Lockscreen clocks
-AOD is now better optimised
-boots up quicker
-support for new bluetooth audio codecs like AAC
-gif support in Samsung Keyboard
-you can now restart the iris scan if ever it initally failed to scan by tapping an icon in the lower quarter of the screen instead of the status bar area
-MUCH better notification management system
Many more small tweaks that make the overall experience better!

gsser said:
having a locked bootloader.
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What do you mean? Oreo didn't lock down the BL on Exynos, and it was already locked on most Snapdragons.
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kradcliffe said:
Surprise surprise. That's why I have stuck to 7.1.1 and rooted the device.
Every new update to any Samsung device introduces bugs and kills battery life. Personally it offers little advantage and I'm not the least bit interested in upgrading.
Why waste time changing something that works well just for the sake of it?
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No lags, bugs, or noticeable battery drain here, and I'd be the first to say so. Careful about 'reports'...half the time they've done something else like dirty flash, installed mods, etc. and blame the wrong culprit.

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What do you mean? Oreo didn't lock down the BL on Exynos, and it was already locked on most Snapdragons.
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No lags, bugs, or noticeable battery drain here, and I'd be the first to say so. Careful about 'reports'...half the time they've done something else like dirty flash, installed mods, etc. and blame the wrong culprit.
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before i was on 7.1, i jumped to 8.0 and it reset my rmm state, waited around 2 weeks to get oem unlock option it didnt. and i am not going back to oreo for sure.

gsser said:
before i was on 7.1, i jumped to 8.0 and it reset my rmm state, waited around 2 weeks to get oem unlock option it didnt. and i am not going back to oreo for sure.
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Ok but the problem is with rmm on your specific device model/region, not Oreo itself. I have a different model and OEM is unaffected by Oreo for me (oem unlock toggle is still there). People have rmm issues even on Nougat. It doesn't mean you have to upgrade to Oreo if course, but Oreo is not the reason for your issues.

I updated and have been seeing the lag. Deleting emails takes like 5 secs now after hitting delete.
Iris recognition is a lot faster.
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For me, the key reason for updating to Oreo was support for the Sony LDAC Bluetooth codec. I have the WI-1000X and the MDR-1000X headphones and can now stream audio to these via LDAC, instead of APTX.
Apart from that, as mentioned by previous posters, notifications have received a major overhaul. Also, I have not seen any performance dip after the update -- I flashed the France ROM via ODIN, without doing a factory reset or starting afresh.
I am never far away from a wireless charging pad, so don't know if the battery life has gone for a toss after Oreo.

I think that people should be more careful when posting negative or unconfirmed issues, as other poster said, some people get troubles when dirty flashing or installing firmwares other than official OTA ones

krumbs said:
For me, the key reason for updating to Oreo was support for the Sony LDAC Bluetooth codec. I have the WI-1000X and the MDR-1000X headphones and can now stream audio to these via LDAC, instead of APTX.
Apart from that, as mentioned by previous posters, notifications have received a major overhaul. Also, I have not seen any performance dip after the update -- I flashed the France ROM via ODIN, without doing a factory reset or starting afresh.
I am never far away from a wireless charging pad, so don't know if the battery life has gone for a toss after Oreo.
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I'm currently using my WI-1000x, and just updated to Oreo. Have you noticed any difference with LDAC?

winol said:
I think that people should be more careful when posting negative or unconfirmed issues, as other poster said, some people get troubles when dirty flashing or installing firmwares other than official OTA ones
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Agreed. Bone stock VZW Note 8 here, had it since pre-order. Oreo update came today and so far it's only been faster with no issues. It added some nice Bluetooth audio options in Developer Options.

I flashed the official Oreo rom so I didn't do a OTA and it works fantastic for me.
Overall performance is a lot better
Features like PIP are great
Battery is better
Waaaay better notifications
And a lot of other small improvements.
I think people that have issues with Oreo simply did a OTA

Sitti01 said:
I still haven't revived Oreo update here in Thailand. When it is released, before I install it, I'm curious what is the benefit of installing Oreo? Note 8 already does everything it's supposed do, will this update make anything better or provides any new features?
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Basically avoid all x.0 software releases.
Goes for every software...
Samsung is already testing 8.1 on the note 9 so I will just wait for that to be ported.
It will bring new features and much better stability.

Praks93 said:
-New Lockscreen clocks
-AOD is now better optimised
-boots up quicker
-support for new bluetooth audio codecs like AAC
-gif support in Samsung Keyboard
-you can now restart the iris scan if ever it initally failed to scan by tapping an icon in the lower quarter of the screen instead of the status bar area
-MUCH better notification management system
Many more small tweaks that make the overall experience better!
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And better battery performance :good:

razor6_4 said:
significantly worse battery backup and lags and bugs here and there..and that's pretty much about it...
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Been using oreo on my note 8 for weeks, I have none of those problems.

meboy said:
Basically avoid all x.0 software releases.
Goes for every software...
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Agreed, I've almost always had the same experience in the past. The bugs usually get worked out in x.1. Not much different with 8.0, I pretty much immediately went back to 7.1.1.

Been on Oreo for 11 days now. For the average user there is some noticeable minor visual change in the UI. Other than that the phone feels and performs about the same. Nothing has changed on my usage.