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Why Android 5?

I am the only one not interested in upgrading to Lollipop? I'm a big fan of Xposed, especially App Settings, as I do not like the standard DPI.
With the introduction of ART runtime, Xposed does not work. It does not look that likely that it will work anytime soon. This is have a big impact on my ability to customize my N910H.

I'm also a big fan of app settings, but that won't affect me changing the dpi, everything can be modded manually and flashed just like older days and enjoy the lower dpi values
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bala_gamer said:
I'm also a big fan of app settings, but that won't affect me changing the dpi, everything can be modded manually and flashed just like older days and enjoy the lower dpi values
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Thanks. I've admired your mods from my Note 2 days. As I haven't seen any DPI modded apps for the Note 4 I was getting concerned.
So you think that setting the system to, say, 420DPI, will not be a problem? Modded apps will appear for In Call UI, Lockscreen, Calc etc etc?

liquidguru said:
Thanks. I've admired your mods from my Note 2 days. As I haven't seen any DPI modded apps for the Note 4 I was getting concerned.
So you think that setting the system to, say, 420DPI, will not be a problem? Modded apps will appear for In Call UI, Lockscreen, Calc etc etc?
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yes, it can be done. without xposed manual mods will be back in action

SO how does one change the dpi for apps without app settings?
I just need it for root explorer, gmail and chrome.

I imagine A5 will give us a bit more smooth trip with TW. Not even Samsung can mishandle A5 that much I hope I love xposed but I love a smooth and micro lag free ride even more.

my estimate is that when the big manufacturers (samsung/lg/motorola/etc) all finish updating their mid to top range smartphones to lollipop(lets say in samsung case for example: S4, note 3, S5, note 4) exposed will come with it as well. right now maybe 0.1% of all android devices have android 5.0, so I can see why the dev working on it taking his time as there is simply not high enough demand for it. (one of the reason i'm not upgrading to 5.0 too atm)

tal123 said:
my estimate is that when the big manufacturers (samsung/lg/motorola/etc) all finish updating their mid to top range smartphones to lollipop(lets say in samsung case for example: S4, note 3, S5, note 4) exposed will come with it as well. right now maybe 0.1% of all android devices have android 5.0, so I can see why the dev working on it taking his time as there is simply not high enough demand for it. (one of the reason i'm not upgrading to 5.0 too atm)
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From what I've read it might be impossible to get ART working with xposed. I too am happy to wait, but we might never get xposed with A5
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Hell I'm bored to death with Android honestly

liquidguru said:
I am the only one not interested in upgrading to Lollipop? I'm a big fan of Xposed, especially App Settings, as I do not like the standard DPI.
With the introduction of ART runtime, Xposed does not work. It does not look that likely that it will work anytime soon. This is have a big impact on my ability to customize my N910H.
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I am also very happy with Android 4.4.4, its got very little bugs, incredibly stable and efficient, all I want is further optimising of power usage and app optimisation, thats all I ask for, but hey, this is how tech works, got to moving, and the great thing in 5.0 is ART, apps should run faster, better audio, better memory management, etc etc...I am not in a rush, I am glad we will be getting 5.0.1 and not the buggy 5.0

POLO_i780 said:
I am also very happy with Android 4.4.4, its got very little bugs, incredibly stable and efficient, all I want is further optimising of power usage and app optimisation, thats all I ask for, but hey, this is how tech works, got to moving, and the great thing in 5.0 is ART, apps should run faster, better audio, better memory management, etc etc...I am not in a rush, I am glad we will be getting 5.0.1 and not the buggy 5.0
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Yep agree on that. Lollipop definately has some improvements over 4.4.4. Although 4.4.4 is really running perfectly.
I will be looking forward to 5.1 though, as 5.0.1 is not yet perfect...still has some bugs.

I thought I was the only one thinking like this because all I've been seeing is hype ? but reading through your comments got me thinking about actually upgrading to Lollipop... I love Xposed to the point I can't live without it but if 5.0.1 is THAT great... Idk anymore.
Also, does anyone know if there's an official forum or something here on xda for all this xposed situation?
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caaanaya said:
I thought I was the only one thinking like this because all I've been seeing is hype ? but reading through your comments got me thinking about actually upgrading to Lollipop... I love Xposed to the point I can't live without it but if 5.0.1 is THAT great... Idk anymore.
Also, does anyone know if there's an official forum or something here on xda for all this xposed situation?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52288979&postcount=3

alirey said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52288979&postcount=3
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Thanks!!

caaanaya said:
I thought I was the only one thinking like this because all I've been seeing is hype ? but reading through your comments got me thinking about actually upgrading to Lollipop... I love Xposed to the point I can't live without it but if 5.0.1 is THAT great... Idk anymore.
Also, does anyone know if there's an official forum or something here on xda for all this xposed situation?
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I'm sure A5 will be great, but sure that that it will great enough to give up xposed, at least until there are alternatives for tweaking the UI. Xposed has its own forum on XDA. At present there doesn't seem much hope for getting it to work with A5.
Edit: Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed
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liquidguru said:
I am the only one not interested in upgrading to Lollipop? I'm a big fan of Xposed, especially App Settings, as I do not like the standard DPI.
With the introduction of ART runtime, Xposed does not work. It does not look that likely that it will work anytime soon. This is have a big impact on my ability to customize my N910H.
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I was using xposed on my stock rooted rom but had a huge battery drain, didn't find out why, anyway i started using X-Note on my N910H and its amazing, multi dpi without xposed, no battery drain and lots and lots of mods, amazing rom, i have no complaints at all :fingers-crossed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/development/xnote-v3-0-n910c-port-t2977944

Lollipop is awesome. I just put it on my mates sm-n910f, and we were looking at Google cardboard vr apps....
They were running at close to TWICE!! the frame rate that they were running at on KitKat touchwiz. Unbelievable.
The UI is noticeably much smoother too. Highly recommended. More than that, it's an absolute must have IMO..
I've got it on my s4 also, and there's not a thing I can do with it to make it skip a single frame anywhere. Love it.

knuckles1978 said:
Lollipop is awesome. I just put it on my mates sm-n910f, and we were looking at Google cardboard vr apps....
They were running at close to TWICE!! the frame rate that they were running at on KitKat touchwiz. Unbelievable.
The UI is noticeably much smoother too. Highly recommended. More than that, it's an absolute must have IMO..
I've got it on my s4 also, and there's not a single thing I can do that will make it skip a single frame anywhere. Love it.
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Thanks. I hope there will be similar benefits when it hits our N4.

Ram management of kitkat sucks

guys
this phone can't handle facebook + launcher only opened ?
a galaxy star phone would do it better
even my 500 MB ram old phone is much more better than this
i don't have anything opened
just launcher and i get only 200 mb left of ram ?
if i opened any application it just redraws the launcher when i get out and it's very slow to get out of an application
what the **** ?
any solution would be appreciated very much
and rom would be appreciated too

theprincemoh said:
guys
this phone can't handle facebook + launcher only opened ?
a galaxy star phone would do it better
even my 500 MB ram old phone is much more better than this
i don't have anything opened
just launcher and i get only 200 mb left of ram ?
if i opened any application it just redraws the launcher when i get out and it's very slow to get out of an application
what the **** ?
any solution would be appreciated very much
and rom would be appreciated too
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are you running stock rom? What version android? what version of phone?

tmittelstaedt said:
are you running stock rom? What version android? what version of phone?
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stock rom 4.4.4
aaaaaaand
it's xt1063

no such problms, ram consumptuion is high bt less redraws

Go over here: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6168839e0e?commentId=861143
and scream as loud as you can. May be someone will hear us!

theprincemoh said:
stock rom 4.4.4
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it's xt1063
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Geeze we probably need to create a new forum titled "Moto G (2014) (2nd generation)"
This isn't 4.4.4 that's the problem. Most users on plain "Moto G (2014) 1st generation" are not having this problem including the people running 4.4.4
This is hardware differences in the 2nd generation Moto G 2014 version that are causing that.

I have the same problem, but in the Lollipop update it will be fixed. You just have to wait

Use an app such as the strangely named and excellent Kernel Adiutor to reduce the low memory killer thresholds. The thresholds set on 4.4.4 for the Moto G look suspisciously like they were intended for a device with 2GB of RAM. Simply halving every value will give you much better multitasking without introducing nasty side effects. Edit the build.prop to drop the VM heap growth limit from 96MB to 64MB. The editor built into Kernel Adiutor doesn't work on the Moto G atm, unfortunately.
Oh, and you might want to increase the max hidden apps prop to 15.

You will get about half of the ram as user available out of total in every smartphone. & that too may decrease depending on number of installed apps/updates...etc. Note this when u buy any phone.

guys
is it worth unlocking bootloader and getting custom rom or not ?
i never used stock roms on my older phones
but is it worth unlocking or just wait for update ?

theprincemoh said:
guys
is it worth unlocking bootloader and getting custom rom or not ?
i never used stock roms on my older phones
but is it worth unlocking or just wait for update ?
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I'm debating the same thing. I almost always rooted my phones but I was going to wait and try the OTA update when it's officially released. The memory issues I'm having are making thing about pushing ahead with root anyway but I don't know if the ROMs are any better at this point. I have an XT1064.

zeropants said:
I'm debating the same thing. I almost always rooted my phones but I was going to wait and try the OTA update when it's officially released. The memory issues I'm having are making thing about pushing ahead with root anyway but I don't know if the ROMs are any better at this point. I have an XT1064.
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i think i made my decision
i will try that titan rom

zeropants said:
I'm debating the same thing. I almost always rooted my phones but I was going to wait and try the OTA update when it's officially released. The memory issues I'm having are making thing about pushing ahead with root anyway but I don't know if the ROMs are any better at this point. I have an XT1064.
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They are way better than stock, you can't even compare the two.

Hakkinan said:
They are way better than stock, you can't even compare the two.
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OK, good to know. I'll have to unlock and give this a shot then...

Using ART helps
FWIW I've found that switching the runtime from Dalvik to ART helps a lot with the KK RAM management issues on this device. And that's even before rooting & greenifying etc. etc. So you may want to give that a try.

5.1.1 by end of July according to Sammobile.com

Just saw this: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/01/exclusive-samsung-to-start-rolling-out-android-5-1-1-lollipop-update-to-galaxy-note-4-by-the-end-of-july/
"Google revealed the developer preview of the next big version of its mobile device operating system – Android M – last week during Google I/O 2015, and the release of its final version is due in Q3 2015. Now, you must be thinking if Samsung is too slow in updating its existing smartphones and tablets to the latest version of Android.
Samsung has already improved its software update game starting this year, and it has already rolled out Lollipop update many existing devices. Now, Samsung is already testing beta versions of Android 5.1.1-based ROMs for various existing devices, and we’ve already shown you the upgraded camera app for the Galaxy S6 and the S6 edge that will be released with Android 5.1.1 update for the devices.
Many Galaxy Note 4 users are impatiently waiting for Samsung to release Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update for the device. Well, here’s some good news for those guys. According to our highly placed sources, Samsung is planning to release Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update to the Galaxy Note 4 by the end of July. As usual, we will be the first ones to show you the upcoming ROM running on the actual device."
:good:

5.1.1 was released on april 9 so this is somewhat fast considering that.
but never trust samsung and their time lines.

ravijani said:
5.1.1 was released on april 9 so this is somewhat fast considering that.
but never trust samsung and their time lines.
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Sammobile are usually pretty spot on, especially when it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder.

v5.1.1 is FINAL version of Lollipop - no memory management problems

Toss3 said:
Sammobile are usually pretty spot on, especially when it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder.
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how do u know it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder??????????

ravijani said:
how do u know it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder??????????
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"According to our highly placed sources..." (sammobile.com, 2015)
Says so right there. :good:

Good news

Do you also read that the new camera app will come to note 4 aswell?

I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:

very keen to see that!

Chad_Petree said:
I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:
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as an s6 edge user with note 4 i can say. new touchwiz is mostly same with what you are using on your note 4 with lollipop. but 1 exception performance of s6 is just sucks. insane ram usage, lags everywhere, crash etc. and people call it, its best touchwiz performance its basically a lie. its 1 of worst experiences i have ever had with an flagship device.
camera app just has different design capabilities are same pro mode is basically there for note 4 too.
only themes missing. others basically same.

tmac31 said:
as an s6 edge user with note 4 i can say. new touchwiz is mostly same with what you are using on your note 4 with lollipop. but 1 exception performance of s6 is just sucks. insane ram usage, lags everywhere, crash etc. and people call it, its best touchwiz performance its basically a lie. its 1 of worst experiences i have ever had with an flagship device.
camera app just has different design capabilities are same pro mode is basically there for note 4 too.
only themes missing. others basically same.
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Honestly I'm just hoping that the Note 5 is going to come with Android M out of the box at this point, because it truly makes a difference; in comparison to lollipop (5.1.1) on my Nexus 5 it's like night and day. Really fantastic update from google this time around.

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Honestly I'm just hoping that the Note 5 is going to come with Android M out of the box at this point, because it truly makes a difference; in comparison to lollipop (5.1.1) on my Nexus 5 it's like night and day. Really fantastic update from google this time around.
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i still didnt update my old nexus 5. ill try if its that different. i doubt note 5 will have android m out of the box. probably same thing will happen with note 4 and android m will release after note 5. hope it will be perfect on its release time unlike lollipop this year. 5.1.1 should have released as 5.0 last year so all companies could have done the updates fast and perfect.

Chad_Petree said:
I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:
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I'm pretty sure that we'll get none of the features you mentioned.

I hope it is not another firmware number change & new theme to be used like the Lollipop 5.0.1
We need full active Lollipop the latest change in toggle, the new camera API 2 with RAW support & the new themes with other Galaxy S6 & Lollipop improvements.
not to forget battery life fix & RAM high usage.
for 32 bit or 64 bit matter I hope they activate 64 bit ability in Exynos version …………… that will be awesome.

Sadly, this update doesn't come with Camera 2 Api or S6 features. Just under the hood updates (memory bug fixes, etc).

galaxynote2 said:
Sadly, this update doesn't come with Camera 2 Api or S6 features. Just under the hood updates (memory bug fixes, etc).
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How do you know ? I think IF they're ever going to release camera 2 for the Note 4, they're going to do it with 5.1.1 release
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BTW I honestly feel the 5.1.1 update wasnt all that interesting (the CM users have been on it a while). The Nexus users reported some performance improvements but these were mainly due to kernel changes. So if Samsung did some good work there, it might be interesting. Otherwise, the 5.1.1. update is going to be quite a non event in my opinion.

I hope they include themes. As somebody on a non bootable US Carrier version, themes would at least allow me to stop looking at the same damn icons I've had on every Samsung device I've had over the last 5 years!

bbeelzebub said:
I hope they include themes. As somebody on a non bootable US Carrier version, themes would at least allow me to stop looking at the same damn icons I've had on every Samsung device I've had over the last 5 years!
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You don't like nova or action etc launchers?
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Change ur launcher. Solve the problem
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Note 4 5.1.1. update available (N910P)

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/10/galaxy-note-4-android-5-1-1-update-now-available-for-download/
It finally coming.

muamers said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/10/galaxy-note-4-android-5-1-1-update-now-available-for-download/
It finally coming.
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That's for sprint they've had this almost 2 weeks now already
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Dude, this is the build date ... it was released today.

muamers said:
Dude, this is the build date ... it was released today.
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The OTA went out over a week ago.
People have been posting their experiences here and at other Android Forums. If I'm not mistaken the T-Mobile Note 4 also got the OTA about a week ago.
SamMobile are not always fast at getting the complete FW, as OTAs tend to go out 1st.

muamers said:
Dude, this is the build date ... it was released today.
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Look on the sprint forums, they've had it for quite a while now
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muamers said:
Dude, this is the build date ... it was released today.
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I've had the tar file for nearly a week. I've made a zip of both the 910p and 910t3 5.1.1 releases but neither of them will boot on the 910f. Log says it failed due to modem so I'm guessing we need the non-hlos.bin for it to boot. So it's a no go for now but I do know someone got my n910t3 zip to boot on the tmob
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sawdoctor said:
I've had the tar file for nearly a week. I've made a zip of both the 910p and 910t3 5.1.1 releases but neither of them will boot on the 910f. Log says it failed due to modem so I'm guessing we need the non-hlos.bin for it to boot. So it's a no go for now but I do know someone got my n910t3 zip to boot on the tmob
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So it's not a long way for waiting , I hope

It's definitely been out for a while, though I held off a few extra days for a tweaked, flashable ROM to show up. Didn't want to give up my unlocked OB7 bootloader or root.
Thankfully, it didn't take long for that to happen!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/romstockishno-knox-8-7-15-sprint-t3174350
Much faster, recents menu lag is practically gone, Gear VR performance is noticeably smoother (GPU driver regression fixed?), and all in all, I'm pleased. This is how Lollipop should have launched to begin with.
Here's hoping the other variants get caught up soon, you all deserve it. If anything, I'm surprised Sprint is, well, sprinting out the gate with these updates, especially compared to carrier-unlocked models!

NamelessFragger said:
It's definitely been out for a while, though I held off a few extra days for a tweaked, flashable ROM to show up. Didn't want to give up my unlocked OB7 bootloader or root.
Thankfully, it didn't take long for that to happen!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/romstockishno-knox-8-7-15-sprint-t3174350
Much faster, recents menu lag is practically gone, Gear VR performance is noticeably smoother (GPU driver regression fixed?), and all in all, I'm pleased. This is how Lollipop should have launched to begin with.
Here's hoping the other variants get caught up soon, you all deserve it. If anything, I'm surprised Sprint is, well, sprinting out the gate with these updates, especially compared to carrier-unlocked models!
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It's really weird that samsung isn't releasing the update to all users in all regions yet. Good to hear it is performing great! That at least we have something to look forward to.

Can someone with this ROM please download and run: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
to check if they implemented Camera API 2?

arovik said:
Can someone with this ROM please download and run: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
to check if they implemented Camera API 2?
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Is there any ROM really have that support ? I tried on CM12.1 but no luck

Still no update for the 910f wtf is going on
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arovik said:
Can someone with this ROM please download and run: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
to check if they implemented Camera API 2?
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Unfortunately, not a single camera2 feature's supported there. Word is the S6 still doesn't fare any better in that department, so perhaps Samsung just doesn't care.
It's quite a shame, as it could make the Note 4 that extra bit better, but I guess we'll just have to yank the camera driver out of another IMX240-equipped phone that does. Can't think of much other recourse at this point if Samsung won't bother.

S6 supports RAW, S5 has been updated with it too.
Note 4 NOT.
f....ing Crapsung.

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
S6 supports RAW, S5 has been updated with it too.
Note 4 NOT.
f....ing Crapsung.
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The S5 got DMG/RAW output? When did this happen?
Better check my mom's S5 then, it's still on OA6.

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The S5 got DMG/RAW output? When did this happen?
Better check my mom's S5 then, it's still on OA6.
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Two days ago I read about S6 firmware and I was mistaken - it was said:
Last week T-Mobile beat all other US carriers to the update, and in a surprise move began pushing out the Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update for the Galaxy S6 and Galaxy S6 Edge with new features, bug fixes, and improved performance. That same update is now headed to one more carrier in the United States, as well as the older Galaxy S5.
The Galaxy S6 Android 5.1.1 update will feature changes to Samsung’s 16 megapixel camera, or the app. Included is RAW support and custom ISO values for the camera. It’s also expected to feature iOS-style exposures that will allow users to manage their exposure with simple on-screen controls. This is in addition to the return of Guest Mode allowing for multiple user accounts on one device, new motion effects, and more quick settings controls.
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So it will be updated soon, not was updated.
My bad...

Note 4 N910F didn't get 5.1.1 yet

[REVIEW] Official 6.0.1 TW firmware for Tab S

Here you have a proper review of the MM firmware update for the 8.4 inch model.
I personaly didnt like the update it hasnt got a much better performance and it hasnt got any design change like new samsung devices. It also hasnt got the theme store or microsd card as internal storage option. Its as laggy as the old LP and it doesnt have all languages (12 languages). Another thing to mention is that the s planner icon the gallery icon and the s browser icon are a bit blurred. It doesnt matter that much but its embarrassing anyway for such a big manufacturer like samsung. The biggest changes are the changed icons which now look like the ones on the note 5 on 5.1.1. Also the wallpapers has been repleaced with the s7 wallpapers as well as ALL transition animations. The last thing to mention is that the magazine UX is not working anymore, no matter if u activate it in the launcher settings or not.
Here is the video about the real life performance and all changes

Thank you for the review. At least we've been upgraded to 6.0.1 so the custom ROMs from the likes of yourselves will see an improvement

suburbadroid said:
Thank you for the review. At least we've been upgraded to 6.0.1 so the custom ROMs from the likes of yourselves will see an improvement
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Yeah but there are so many people who dont even know about custom roms.
And the bad performance like in 5.0.2 could be fixed also.
But yes u are tight at least we got thag update where others likentab pro didnt even got one updatesince now

Limited number of languages is because this first release is the Korean region version, and not an XXU1 (worldwide) version
It's sad indeed that Samsung has disabled adoptable storage for SD card. Do any of the workarounds found on other devices work here?

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Limited number of languages is because this first release is the Korean region version, and not an XXU1 (worldwide) version
It's sad indeed that Samsung has disabled adoptable storage for SD card. Do any of the workarounds found on other devices work here?
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I am not sure but i think i have heard that someone has found a way to activate that on the s7..

Looking at the pictures I do not see much changing
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aumast said:
Looking at the pictures I do not see much changing
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That's because Samsung almost never update the Touchwiz UI for older devices.
The important part is that all Marshmallow features are there. (Well, except the adoptable storage, but there's a workaround using adb.)

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I am not sure but i think i have heard that someone has found a way to activate that on the s7..
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That method has so far only worked on the S7. It fails on other devices like the S5 and Note 4 that got MM. A rooted device might have an alternative solution tho.
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Annoying that they didn't implement all the icon changes - ie they rounded all the default installed apps but not the Folder icon. The Note 4 got the new folders when MM came out. ?
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Annoying that they didn't implement all the icon changes - ie they rounded all the default installed apps but not the Folder icon. The Note 4 got the new folders when MM came out.
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Jup also saw that. Also the app drawer icon is still the same as before. They havnt changed anything on the TWlauncher :/

Sounds like my experience with MM on other devices. Not a huge difference. The improvements were fairly incremental. I'll probably keep LP on my rooted Tab S for a long time, and then flash the MM ROM when the final version/update comes out.

Guys, I totally understand your concerns about the shallow TouchWiz UI, but the major advancement with MM is supposed to be doze, which works under the hood. That alone justifies migrating to MM, IMHO. ?
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We always have the devs who makes sh*tty Samsung ROMs into masterpieces

Another important change is that this Rom should be compatible to a lot of newer Samsung apps as well as Rom mods from different devices. Stuff like Game Launcher or Good Lock for example should now work and maybe someone can port some other elements of newer devices like Grace UI. Good Lock alone is enough to change the notification UI BTW.
Anyway, what about the performance of the device? Has it improved with M?

Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.

TheGoD said:
Another important change is that this Rom should be compatible to a lot of newer Samsung apps as well as Rom mods from different devices. Stuff like Game Launcher or Good Lock for example should now work and maybe someone can port some other elements of newer devices like Grace UI. Good Lock alone is enough to change the notification UI BTW.
Anyway, what about the performance of the device? Has it improved with M?
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Good lock has some bugs on the tab s.
The notification height is too small and the width of the quick settings and keep area is too big also.. However i fixed both with a modified good lock apk but it wont recompile -.- when i get that fixed i will upload this tab s modified good lock app
For grace ui i would recommend to wait its only aviable on phones yet. Sure we can port them but they wont look good on a tablet. The best way is to optimize them after porting but i know it from sucukrom when i ported s6 systemui and launcher - optimizing was hard and boring like hell.
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Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
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There must be gone something wrong while testing. This score is reallly bad..

TimurAlaskara_TR said:
Good lock has some bugs on the tab s.
The notification height is too small and the width of the quick settings and keep area is too big also.. However i fixed both with a modified good lock apk but it wont recompile -.- when i get that fixed i will upload this tab s modified good lock app
For grace ui i would recommend to wait its only aviable on phones yet. Sure we can port them but they wont look good on a tablet. The best way is to optimize them after porting but i know it from sucukrom when i ported s6 systemui and launcher - optimizing was hard and boring like hell.
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Wow, nice to see there is already somebody working on this (thanks for your support). I think its best than to wait for the Tab S3 to release which should be in the next few weeks anyway.
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Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
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Geekbench 4 runs a completely different set of benchmarks than version 3. I just recently read a (I think) Anandtech writer rant about how not related Geekbench 3 scores are to the experience in practical usage compared to the (then still closed beta) Geekbench 4.
So you can't compare those scores at all.
I just run Geekbench 4 on my Tab S 8.4 with Lollipop (but using Iron Kernel - interactive governor - and f2fs data/cahce) and got this:
812 - Single Core
1849 - Multicore

Do this update upgraded the imprint sensor functions?
Now can I interact with other app or like before it is only to unlock the device?
This is the main feature I'm expecting from MM (plus Doze, obv)

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Do this update upgraded the imprint sensor functions?
Now can I interact with other app or like before it is only to unlock the device?
This is the main feature I'm expecting from MM (plus Doze, obv)
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Yes, in MM apps can use the fingerprint API. This works with Google Play Store and Dropbox, to mention a few. My experience is with AOSP only, but I don't see why stock ROMs should be different.
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stopa10 said:
Yes, in MM apps can use the fingerprint API. This works with Google Play Store and Dropbox, to mention a few. My experience is with AOSP only, but I don't see why stock ROMs should be different.
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They didn't implemented the SDCard feature, they could also not implement this.
Before flash with odin the new FW I would like someone could assure me about this, because I will flash the new FW only to have this feature