I've got a grandfathered Unlimited Data Plan on Verizon (which they can pry from my cold dead hands!) but I also have a T-Mobile SIM I use for my overseas trips (love the free, but slow, 2G roaming!). My Project Fi invite should be arriving in 1-2 weeks, and my plan was to cancel my T-Mobile account and use the Fi SIM for overseas roaming. My question is, if I upgrade the phone to the Project Fi-only LVY48C build, will I be able to switch between my Fi and Verizon SIMs at will, without any loss of functionality? Has anyone on Verizon tried this yet?
Thanks for any help y'all can provide!
What are the benefits of the Project Fi build over the regular build?
I should be getting my Project Fi sim the next week or so also. I also plan on doing the same (US usage with VZ UDP, Int'l usage with Fi instead of T-Mo). I can attempt the LVY48C on my N6 as soon as VZ resolves some network issues associated with my line. I don't wont to complicate things right now...
Subscribed to this thread in case anyone can give a definitive answer in the mean-while.
@black7, what ROM did you settle on? Also, out of curiosity, do you have the Google Wi-Fi Assistant available to you? Check in "Google Settings" app-->Network-->"Use open Wi-Fi automatically".
I'm trying to figure out if this feature is triggered by the presence of a Fi SIM or specific Google accounts or the Fi ROM.
DA6030 said:
@black7, what ROM did you settle on? Also, out of curiosity, do you have the Google Wi-Fi Assistant available to you? Check in "Google Settings" app-->Network-->"Use open Wi-Fi automatically".
I'm trying to figure out if this feature is triggered by the presence of a Fi SIM or specific Google accounts or the Fi ROM.
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It's Fi sim specific
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david279 said:
It's Fi sim specific
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Great! So, just to confirm, when you re-insert your non-Fi SIM from another carrier, you lose the Wi-Fi Assistant feature?
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Great! So, just to confirm, when you re-insert your old SIM, you lose the feature, correct?
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Haven't gone back. But I was on the LMY47I build and it wasn't there then put in the fi sim and it was there.
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david279 said:
Haven't gone back. But I was on the LMY47I build and it wasn't there then put in the fi sim and it was there.
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OK, that's helpful. I think this is a really cool feature, that I'd love to find a way to enable for everyone, but right now there's so many places this access bit could be stored (server-side vs. client-side; triggered by a handset having ever seen a Fi SIM vs. Google account with an active Fi subscription vs. phone with a Fi SIM currently inserted) that anything would help narrow down at this point. At the very least, you've helped me rule out the ROM as a factor!
I got my invite yesterday, so after I ordered my SIM I chatted with Fi support and asked about switching between my Fi and Verizon SIMs once my phone is on the Fi-specific build. She told me that I would have issues trying to use a non-Fi SIM and that I should only use the Fi build for Fi. I'm still going to try both once my SIM arrives, but that was not promising news. Guess I'll have to get a Moto X Style Pure Edition to use with Verizon....or a new Nexus in a few months.
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MadManMoon said:
I got my invite yesterday, so after I ordered my SIM I chatted with Fi support and asked about switching between my Fi and Verizon SIMs once my phone is on the Fi-specific build. She told me that I would have issues trying to use a non-Fi SIM and that I should only use the Fi build for Fi. I'm still going to try both once my SIM arrives, but that was not promising news. Guess I'll have to get a Moto X Style Pure Edition to use with Verizon....or a new Nexus in a few months.
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I've switched back and forth a bunch of times, even while hot (while powered on) and it works most of the time. Takes about a minute for the radio to do its thing and get synced up.
One time I lost the ability to dial out with my Verizon sim (lost all APNs), but reflashing the radio got it working again.
Definitely worth trying.
I probably won't keep FI. The reality is Verizon works great for me and the new pricing structure brings it a little closer to that of FI.
You certainly don't want to use the "Fi specific" build on Verizon. But you also don't need the "Fi specific" build to join Fi. Any current build will work. By design, says Google.
If your Nexus 6 is already on Verizon, update your it to the current stock build, which I believe is would be LMY48I. Then join Fi and follow the instructions for BYOD devices here.
If you have any problems swapping SIMs between Fi and Verizon, it likely will be from Verizon's business rules that have nothing to do with device or build compatibility. Reportedly they often don't play nice with using the same IMEI that has been used on other carriers. (I have no experience with this. Verizon has never had its hooks into me.) And it is not clear to me if you also would be porting your phone number back and forth.
Interesting info, thanks! I will not be swapping numbers - I'm keeping my Verizon number, and using my existing Google Voice number for Fi. I'll keep the latest Verizon build, download the Fi app, and see what happens.
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Interesting info, thanks! I will not be swapping numbers - I'm keeping my Verizon number, and using my existing Google Voice number for Fi. I'll keep the latest Verizon build, download the Fi app, and see what happens.
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Be aware that there are issues porting your Google Voice number to Fi. As I understand it, you basically are abandoning it for Google Voice forever. See this Google Fi Help page.
All I want to keep doing with my existing Google Voice number is use it for my Verizon number's voicemail, and that will apparently still work. I don't use any of the Google Voice features that will be removed once I switch to Fi.
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Be aware that there are issues porting your Google Voice number to Fi. As I understand it, you basically are abandoning it for Google Voice forever. See this Google Fi Help page.
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I ported my GV number over to Fi to give it a spin.
When I wasn't able to get the reception I needed I was able to port my GV number back to GV when I cancelled Fi.
Steve
@MadManMoon:
You might be interested in this thread at Reddit.
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I've switched back and forth a bunch of times, even while hot (while powered on) and it works most of the time. Takes about a minute for the radio to do its thing and get synced up.
One time I lost the ability to dial out with my Verizon sim (lost all APNs), but reflashing the radio got it working again.
Definitely worth trying.
I probably won't keep FI. The reality is Verizon works great for me and the new pricing structure brings it a little closer to that of FI.
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Which Radio did you use? I never flashed mine, bought it unlocked from Google a little more than a year ago, but now, after using Fi for a couple of weeks, it looks like it might have updated the radio itself. Not sure how to force it back to the Verizon Radio...
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One time I lost the ability to dial out with my Verizon sim (lost all APNs), but reflashing the radio got it working again.
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The solution is to go into the calls section of the dialer and disable the call assistant settings.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectFi/...ing_between_verizon_and_project_fi_sim_cards/
Hey guys, was just curious if any of you with project Fi have slipped your sim into another phone to see if it worked. I have a note 2 running cm12.1 and have my Fi invite already, I just can't find a nexus 6 that someone wants to sell at a reasonable non inflated price.
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It probably cant handle the 'seamless' network switching. I think it will work for basic GSM since it is a MVNO, but there's also project Fi built into the nexus 6 image. Just give it a shot, it can't hurt if you dont wanna get a nexus 6.
It works but its shaky. Tried it on a note 2 and iPhone 5s. It doesn't work very well but it works.
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I was wondering the same thing. Wonder what network it will stick to by default if used in another phone? Probably whatever the phone is most compatible with...
On the buying the phone at a reasonable price issue, I got mine on swappa. Have used that site 5 times so far, 3 sales, 2 purchases. Highly recommended.
Yeah. I'm keeping an eye on swappa. I am assuming I'll be stuck to the T-Mobile towers as the n7100 international doesn't have a radio that is compatible with sprint. I don't really care to much about the network switching. I just want to have data and cell service.
Anyone in the south west Florida area that would mind letting me activate the service on there nexus. I read it requires a N6 to get it activated before switching to another phone.
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I purchased a Nexus 6 off eBay new in box and used it with T-mobile without a problem for a while with no issues. After I received the Project Fi invite I ported my number but the phone is always on T-mobile. I called Fi team and they say the phone is still being used on Sprint network and attached to another number, I called Sprint and they won't release the phone as it's attached to another account. I tried to force it to Sprint and says it can't be activated.
Just wondering if is there is a way around this, so phone gets fully activated to on Fi to use both networks.
Appreciate any help.
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I purchased a Nexus 6 off eBay new in box and used it with T-mobile without a problem for a while with no issues. After I received the Project Fi invite I ported my number but the phone is always on T-mobile. I called Fi team and they say the phone is still being used on Sprint network and attached to another number, I called Sprint and they won't release the phone as it's attached to another account. I tried to force it to Sprint and says it can't be activated.
Just wondering if is there is a way around this, so phone gets fully activated to on Fi to use both networks.
Appreciate any help.
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Based on your description, it sounds like it was under Sprint contract to the previous owner and he never paid off the device. I would suggest starting with the person you purchased it from, and ask him that question. If he doesn't respond, isn't helpful, or confirms that hypothesis, then file a claim with Paypal. Device "significantly not as described". You will get your money back, but it could take several weeks.
This would not have happened with a purchase from Swappa.com. They vet the IMEI number to verify that the phone is unencumbered with any carrier.
You are probably better off than if you could connect to Sprint. A lot of Fi users report that the N6 prefers a weak Sprint signal to a strong T-Mobile signal or even strong WiFi.
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Just wondering if ANYONE has had any luck with H811 being able to activate on Project Fi. I've tried both the most current Tmob stock Rom along with LineageOS 14.1 with no luck. With the stock Rom I at least got a T077 error code which mean the H811 is not an approved phone... duh! The LineageOS rom wouldn't even get that far. The activation process just kept circling back to the message that my gmail account was not associated with Project Fi which of course it has to be to get a Project Fi sim card.
Imho, Project Fi is a game changer, allowing it's subscribers to potentially save $30 to $50 a month cell phone service charges.
BTW, the G4 is loose second cousin of the Nexus 5x which is an approved Fi phone. Both are LG phones and supposedly share many of the same chips.
I wana save money!
Decided to take a chance on a internet rumor that an already activated Project Fi sim card would work in my H811. Bought a busted up (cracked screen) Nexus 6 which was good enough for my test. Slipped in my Project Fi card to activate the service which worked like a charm. Took the out the activated Fi sim and put it into my rooted G4 running LineageOS 14.1 and it worked like a champ. Will be testing it more in real life condition's but so far running perfect at home using Tmob network and of course WiFi. As of right now it looks like I'll be paying Google $32 a month instead of $70 to the Tmob gang!
Got a the new P5 and figured I would try out Google Fi for the first time. I know I have good Sprint coverage in most of my area and really good T-Mobile coverage in limited areas. At my home, I get no T-Mobile, but there is good Sprint coverage. The phone refuses to switch to Sprint, even when using the dial codes that is supposed to force it to Sprint (I get an error) I have been working with Google Fi support on this issue since 10/29 and they are now going to file "a ticket with our carrier partner to know the root cause of the services issue". I connected my Pixel 4xl to Fi and it worked as advertised, good LTE coverage at my house on using the Sprint network. Anyone else having that issue?
After two weeks of going back and forth with Google Fi support, the truth comes out. This it the quote from the email that they sent to me.
"I checked with our resources and I am afraid that Pixel 5 does not support Sprint network for talk and texts as of now however, the engineering team is working to fix it.
We do not have any ETA about when this will get fixed but you will be informed when Pixel 5 will support Sprint network. We understand that this is not the resolution you were hoping for, and while we strive to provide an exceptional support experience for all of our customers. You may consider dropping feedback from the Fi app. To do so, follow these steps:"