Hi, not sure if its the right place to ask, but why not
I have bought my Z3C back in February, new, from the shop. I upgraded from Sony Acro S.
The only reason I did that is that lens cover got all smudged and scratched, so photo were blurry.
I got z3 compact, I did, and still think it very nice phone. Battery life is amazing, I love the size of it. But same as with Acro S, lens cover is once again getting weird smudges.
http://imgur.com/oHg6ZDj
If there is any light source, pictures are bad, and I do need camera to take normal pictures. And I did read the thread about it, and that I can try toothpaste etc, but I wont do this I might take it back to the shop and they will replace the back cover, but will help for another few months? And I did have camera lens protector (that is made for LG phones) but it doesn't help with picture quality.
So my question is - with what would you replace it? I love the size of the phone and it has to tolerate humidity, rain, some water. Is there anything that could compare to z3c in these regards and have a decent lens protection? Samsung S5? S6 active is not to my liking (too rugged )
How about Z5C does it have the same same problem?
Sorry for long post and thank you very much for the advice.
Coating wears off too easily yes. Z5c?
There arent many phones with the specs you're looking for. I fear they all start with a z.
bilboa1 said:
Coating wears off too easily yes. Z5c?
There arent many phones with the specs you're looking for. I fear they all start with a z.
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I thought so :/ I am afraid that if I will get Z5C it will be same story like the last two Sony's I had.
This is sad. Will get them to change the back cover and then I suppose I will have to do like I did with this z3c. Buy a screen protector, place it on the back of the phone, and peal it every time I am taking a picture and look stupid while doing so.
have had mine since last year's release. with a thin case, the lens has been protected. why not use one?
Niilkin tempered glass comes with a lens and back protector too... Why don't u check it out
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I did use Nillkin glass protector, it did shatter (started at the corner) but it was good.
But thats not the problem, lens is already bad. Protector wont help now. And its not the scratches, lens is not scratched, it looks like it from humidity or something, that weird stuff its between the plastic and coating
So I am not sure it will protect it. Like I said I had a lens protector, it did not help, it helped in a way that lens is not scratched, but its unusable anyway.
I cant be bothered taking my phone for repairs ever few months, that takes 2 weeks to do and its a huge inconvenience. So my plan is to fix this. And sell it, buy a new that doesnt have bad coating, lens protection.
The question is what? S5? Wait for someone to confirm that Z5C has proper protection on lens?
I believe the reason the coating comes off is due to the constant exposure to liquid, why not just send it to Sony to repair
I don't know what your old lens protector was made of, but once you get your scratches fixed or replaced, just use the clear film back protector from xtremeguardz. It covers the lens and wont shatter. Plus, with the discount codes they often run, it costs next to nothing, so buy 3 and replace when they inevitably peel or turn yellowish.
I've been using mine for months and it hasn't affected picture quality one bit.
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Hey guys, what do you think about this? I've noticed that my camera lens is all scratched up (even though I'm extremely gentle on my phone and never have it in an abrasive environment) and after seeing the tempered glass screen protectors, I was wondering why no one does this with the camera lens? If it's a glass protector then it shouldn't affect the image quality at all...
So here is my suggestion, that we all email requests to iloom at their support email address ([email protected]) requesting this... What do you think?
I'm all for it as a precautionary measure but I've had my phone for two weeks and my lense is flawless.
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Hey guys, what do you think about this? I've noticed that my camera lens is all scratched up (even though I'm extremely gentle on my phone and never have it in an abrasive environment) and after seeing the tempered glass screen protectors, I was wondering why no one does this with the camera lens? If it's a glass protector then it shouldn't affect the image quality at all...
So here is my suggestion, that we all email requests to iloom at their support email address ([email protected]) requesting this... What do you think?
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Had mine since release, and it is flawless as well... no case either....
Man... Yeah I think I may have a flawed lens or something... It must come back to a quality control problem at lg. Mine has scratches all over it and I have had a case on it since the 8th day mark, and I'm very gentle on this phone. You both have Verizon or at&t?
AT&T...
My response to my email below:
"Thank you for your inquiry!
You know, I've never actually heard of any lens protectors and it seems interesting. That being said, please note that our glass screen protectors have optical transmittance of 92% and higher, but it may reduce the image quality due to that as well. We'll be looking into this matter
Thanks again!
Best regards,
Luke Lee"
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It would need to made out of Sapphire, the iPhones have it already on their camera lens.
Yah, the lens position concerned me a bit with the phone naked. However with a case it'd take some real work to scratch it up.
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It would need to made out of Sapphire, the iPhones have it already on their camera lens.
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Doesn't Sapphire come with it's own set of problems? i.e. I recall reading about purple prone lens flares.
G2 lens is sapphire btw...
I've had mine for about a week with no issue with the camera lens. I've never had any issues with any of my previous phone cameras other than prints and smudges. Just wipe and go. It's either user or bad/lemon product.
in_dmand said:
Hey guys, what do you think about this? I've noticed that my camera lens is all scratched up (even though I'm extremely gentle on my phone and never have it in an abrasive environment) and after seeing the tempered glass screen protectors, I was wondering why no one does this with the camera lens? If it's a glass protector then it shouldn't affect the image quality at all...
So here is my suggestion, that we all email requests to iloom at their support email address ([email protected]) requesting this... What do you think?
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My friend, you have micro cracks in your glass, I've returned 2 phones because of this. If you get light to reflect of the surface of the glass you'll see the surface is clean, they are internal stress cracks, same thing happened with the Asus transformer tf201. Look up cracked screen and you'll see tons of posts about that problem.
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Man... Yeah I think I may have a flawed lens or something... It must come back to a quality control problem at lg. Mine has scratches all over it and I have had a case on it since the 8th day mark, and I'm very gentle on this phone. You both have Verizon or at&t?
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Verizon here, and I'm without a case as well. They make a good point about even the highest quality films still reducing transmittance by some degree. May not be the best idea from that standpoint.
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As far i know G2 lens is Sapphire so that thing should not hamper the image quality..and moreover we can use a good case to protect the lens from rough scratches and all..well from the beginning I am using my kickstand case with G2 and there is not even a single scratch on the lens of my phone...I got it from fommy..the case quality is quite nice and it is finely griped on the phone without making any mark signs and all..so using a good case can be only protection from these scratches
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My friend, you have micro cracks in your glass, I've returned 2 phones because of this. If you get light to reflect of the surface of the glass you'll see the surface is clean, they are internal stress cracks, same thing happened with the Asus transformer tf201. Look up cracked screen and you'll see tons of posts about that problem.
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It's not micro cracks but actual scratches...
I'll try to get pics soon... You have to look at it under bright light at the right angle.
hello xda , :fingers-crossed:
i wanna buy a new phone and iam admiring the xperia z1 , but iam a little anxious about some things , one of them is the screen as it is not Ghorilla Glass , i had a samsung galaxy s2 and it was really resistant against scratches , so i dont want to pay lots of money on a phone which could be scratched so easily.
so i just wanted to ask people here who already have the Z1 about their experience with that phone's screen and their overall rating to the phone and its camera, cause i've read many posts that the camera wasn't like what they expected
thanks in advance
Check out Glass-M. They make a tempered glass screen protector for the z1 for like 17USD, mines in the mail. I always put a screen protector as soon as possible, even a 5$ urethane protector can easily stop a scratch that would be ridiculously expensive to repair. Gorilla glass wont save you. Stock glass feels better then urethane, but i can always replace a damaged screen protector.
The camera is usually covered by a sapphire lens i believe, which is much harder then the glass screen and doesn't need to be protected. Just keep your diamonds in a different pocket and you wont scratch it.
My advice, get a screen protector for it before you take it out of the box. Mine was scratched after 2 days, compared to all the other phones I've had (HTC One, SGN, SGSIII etc) I have never had a scratch on the screen. The glass itself is tough, it's just the anti shatter film they put over the top of it which scratches easily. It's like having a cheap screen protector on but they say you void your warranty if you pull it off to replace it once it's scratched.
Go with a tempered glass one. I love the phone, just not the cheap film they put over it.
thanks for your fast response guys :angel:
Is this Tempered Glass projected to being scratched and i'll need to replace it several times ? or it is a scratch-resistant glass which will act like gorilla glass maybe ?
and is the camera worth it ? one of my main reasons of choosing that phone is its camera , but i've read many posts which say that camera sucks , and another posts which say that camera is great !! anybody here has any actual experience with this camera ?!
no one has tried z1 or has faced what iam telling or what :crying:
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no one has tried z1 or has faced what iam telling or what :crying:
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The camera is good, just not mind blowing. If you take picture in good light pictures will be fine. In the end its still a small sensor and will not replace my full frame camera. The Glass-m is made of gorilla glass and is pretty tough. The reason for putting one on as soon as you get it is due the anti shatter film sony insists on putting on. This ASF scratches very easily
Alright, So I am coming from a Sony z3c. I loved the phone, honestly, amazing phone. But after having to replace the glass almost 10 times over the last 2 years. I do have questions.
I see that the phone uses Gorilla glass. How durable is this? I have a tendency to be rough on phones. Even if they are in my pocket. So what are the chances of the glass breaking from standard use or a drop from say 3ft?
If the glass cracks, will I still be able to use the phone? Or is the touch sensor completely integrated with the glass?
Basically, how durable is the glass. And will I still be able to fully use my phone while I wait for replacement parts?
I suggest you search for some drop tests on youtube. What I can tell you is that the touch panel is stuck to the glass panel, and although it might still work after a crack (depending on how bad the crack is), you will always need to replace both, instead of just the glass. I think it costs around 90 dollars/euros for oneplus to replace it. Doesn't oneplus "offer" some accident protection plan (optional buy) when purchasing the phone? Look into that.
One very expensive habit you have there. :silly: I too come the Z3 and then Z3+ never cracked the screen once but I always had them in a case and a tempered glass front. But talking about this 3T I would say it would be more durable for back pockets due to aluminium build but may have slightly less shock damping factor. I would invest in a quality case that you like to protect the corners and edges. The build quality to me is superior to Sony's "sandwich" and the camera should not scratch easily. Look up jerryrig everything on YouTube he has a video on the OP3 & T.
Thank you for the replies guys, I will check the youtube suggestions out. I have always used a premium case and screen protectors. But yes, I think I am just cursed with phones.
Got this phone for few weeks now and just noticed that i got scratches on the camera lens cover. I mean few weeks, really?! with case on and not placed together with any sharp objects. It's so annoying, my P10 plus is way more durable than this phone. Anyone having the same issue?.
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Got this phone for few weeks now and just noticed that i got scratches on the camera lens cover. I mean few weeks, really?! with case on and not placed together with any sharp objects. It's so annoying, my P10 plus is way more durable than this phone. Anyone having the same issue?.
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I have the same scratches plus a huge one(fingernail size) on the screen. Am a bit disappointed on how easy is to scratch the phone... .
Been using since day one and there's not a scratch in sight both front and back.
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I have the same scratches plus a huge one(fingernail size) on the screen. Am a bit disappointed on how easy is to scratch the phone... .
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I have 2 scratches on the screen too!! I’m so angry, had to buy a tempered glass...1k€ and scratched after 10 days :crying: so annoying.
Camera seems to be still ok, but I’ve bought a protector for it too (will get it next month).
No scratches here, and no protectors
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I have the same scratches plus a huge one(fingernail size) on the screen. Am a bit disappointed on how easy is to scratch the phone... .
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I feel you. The phone price is premium so we deserve high quality build phone which is clearly not the case here.
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Been using since day one and there's not a scratch in sight both front and back.
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How I wish I could turn back time :crying:
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How I wish I could turn back time :crying:
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The camera lens sticks out quite a bit. Have seen several phones like Samsung and Apple with cracked rear camera lens pieces, so I know better about that area. According to one source, they use aluminosilicate glass. Although the glass may not be exactly Gorilla Glass, Gorilla Glass itself is also aluminosilicate glass. Huawei's glass is likely a different chemical composition. The phone is the slipperiest I've ever encountered, my number one dislike about it.
There are no scratches in my situation. No case or protection has been used. Dislike cases and front tempered glass pieces. In general, careful which surfaces I lay the phone on and how I hold it. Have seen it sliding off uneven surfaces with too much ease.
Thanks for the warnings. I ordered a film protector for the curved screen and a tempered glass protector for the camera with the phone.
Isnt the screen a gorilla glass? I never dropped my phone and still Ive got a scratch on the bottom right corner of my screen. I could run my nail across it to feel the crack. Maybe it got scratched with a key or a coin. F***ng ridiculous. Never happened to any of my previous phones. I seriously doubt the quality now.
Hello Everyone,
Been using the S21U for 2 weeks now and I have recently noticed micro scratches on the lens element!
The phone is in transparent TPU case since day 1 and I have hardly went outdoors. I traded off my S20+ and the camera bump didn't had a single line from 10 months of usage.
Has anyone encountered this? Maybe others can have a closer look now at their devices.
Any insights, suggestions on what needs to be done or can be prevented will be welcome!
Really sorry to hear that. Just out of precaution, I have placed a whitestone dome glass protector on mine, just because I dont want to experience anything like that with a EUR1300 phone. Not that much expensive and you get two protectors in the box.
shetty08 said:
Hello Everyone,
Been using the S21U for 2 weeks now and I have recently noticed micro scratches on the lens element!
The phone is in transparent TPU case since day 1 and I have hardly went outdoors. I traded off my S20+ and the camera bump didn't had a single line from 10 months of usage.
Has anyone encountered this? Maybe others can have a closer look now at their devices.
Any insights, suggestions on what needs to be done or can be prevented will be welcome!
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how was it scratched? only from keys?
Be very wary of scratching this phone. I recently figured out that the S21 Ultra supposedly does not have the same Victus glass design as the Note 20 Ultra... It has a slightly modified form of Victus that's much, much thinner (as it's covered by another, easily scratch-able glass material...and so the cameras might be like this too)... So instead of being resistant to most micro-scratches, they are actually easier to get and become permanent immediately on this phone (learned this by scratching my display with denim jeans - no metal/button contact) =(.
I'm just assuming that they're doing this to increase their glass repair jobs... Granted, Apple has been doing this with their iPhones for an extremely long time now... But hey, Samsung has started acting kinda like they're the Apple-like company of Android, lol.
im sorry, but you what?
you scratched glass with jeans?
I'm a stainless steel fabricator do I'm in the worst possible job for scratching phones so have the screen and camera protected, ESR TPU for the front and LK glass for the camera, don't even notice they are on at all and only coast 20 yo-yos for both
The lenses don't scratch easily, but depending on what you do during your day you might end up with stuff in your pockets that will do it. There are a lot of glass protectors for the cameras out there for the S21U, for example in the US you can get a 2-pack from Spigen for $12, and a bunch more that are even cheaper.
If you get one, get one of the blacked out ones, You will get artifacts in your photos from the flash/AF light as they get channeled across the glass of the protector if you don't; learned that one from using clear cases over the years.
Are you sure the lenses are scratched or the camera bump? Because the camera bump is not made of glass! It's metal and the darker colors of phones will be a horrible one, especially phantom black!!
That's not the lense. It's a factory protector.
May have been marred during assembly.
Don't sweat as it can be replaced if needed. A very slight may no effect the images at all but because the otherall area is so small it might. Protectors are a waste of money; it -is- the lense protector!
Any added optic elements will degrade the image.
It's possible to polish out micro scratches with a clean, dry finger tip by rubbing back and forth on glass or antireflective coatings. Takes at least 30 minutes or more... if it really bugs you. Yes dry callus is abrasive and hard enough to polish glass.
Likewise even the smallest amount of grit, sand etc rubbed against it by your finger can marred it.
Don't use that opening in the case as a pickup point.
It can also be marred by improper cleaning. Only use a clean dry microfiber cloth. Wet it a little if need be. Ordinary cotton cloth will eventually cause scratches owing to unseen debris it picked up. Seen many a pair of glasses made of glass scratched like this. Grit stinks into the microfiber material away from the surface being cleaned helping to protect it.
My 10+ lense protector is plastic. I live in the desert. I occasionally clean it but only with a microfiber cloth the same way I treat high dollar optics. No damage after a year and a half.
Just use a good case with a raised cam guard.
blackhawk said:
That's not the lense. It's a factory protector.
May have been marred during assembly.
Don't sweat as it can be replaced if needed. A very slight may no effect the images at all but because the otherall area is so small it might. Protectors are a waste of money; it -is- the lense protector!
Any added optic elements will degrade the image.
It's possible to polish out micro scratches with a clean, dry finger tip by rubbing back and forth on glass or antireflective coatings. Takes at least 30 minutes or more... if it really bugs you. Yes dry callus is abrasive and hard enough to polish glass.
Likewise even the smallest amount of grit, sand etc rubbed against it by your finger can marred it.
Don't use that opening in the case as a pickup point.
It can also be marred by improper cleaning. Only use a clean dry microfiber cloth. Wet it a little if need be. Ordinary cotton cloth will eventually cause scratches owing to unseen debris it picked up. Seen many a pair of glasses made of glass scratched like this. Grit stinks into the microfiber material away from the surface being cleaned helping to protect it.
My 10+ lense protector is plastic. I live in the desert. I occasionally clean it but only with a microfiber cloth the same way I treat high dollar optics. No damage after a year and a half.
Just use a good case with a raised cam guard.
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Hey thanks man for the reassuring reply!
As I said in the post, Its barely been 2 weeks and I didn't even travelled much, put it in jeans with keys, coins etc. It was lying dormant with little use.
On close inspection in direct sunlight / outdoors. I saw lines which are underneath the lens glass and not on the surface.
I just don't want the image quality to suffer and plus the service center sucks (experience in dealing with S20+)
Not sure if they will acknowledge it or tag it as a user handling damage.
What are my options?
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Are you sure the lenses are scratched or the camera bump? Because the camera bump is not made of glass! It's metal and the darker colors of phones will be a horrible one, especially phantom black!!
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The lens area only, the bump I know is metal and it is intact.
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Hey thanks man for the reassuring reply!
As I said in the post, Its barely been 2 weeks and I didn't even travelled much, put it in jeans with keys, coins etc. It was lying dormant with little use.
On close inspection in direct sunlight / outdoors. I saw lines which are underneath the lens glass and not on the surface.
I just don't want the image quality to suffer and plus the service center sucks (experience in dealing with S20+)
Not sure if they will acknowledge it or tag it as a user handling damage.
What are my options?
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If it's on the internal side there's no way you did. Make sure you specify that if returning it.
If it's on the inside without direct inspection it's hard to tell if it's on or into the glass.
It may simple be a smear albeit a hard to remove smear.
Either way shoddy assembly. Having put together thousands of display assemblies I was always careful that the internal surfaces were spotless.
They are selling camera protectors on aliexpress. However, they are not exactly sticking to the actual lens as they are slightly deeper. That basically would create s small gap between the camera lens and the protector. I would assume it MIGHT slightly degrade quality in some cases. Not sure but it may be worth trying out.
I solved all these problems I bought
Galaxy S21 Ultra Case with Camera Cover,S21 Ultra Slim
https://www.amazon.com/Polycarbonate-Protective-Shockproof-Upgraded-Samsung/dp/B08RRTLX71
shetty08 said:
Hello Everyone,
Been using the S21U for 2 weeks now and I have recently noticed micro scratches on the lens element!
The phone is in transparent TPU case since day 1 and I have hardly went outdoors. I traded off my S20+ and the camera bump didn't had a single line from 10 months of usage.
Has anyone encountered this? Maybe others can have a closer look now at their devices.
Any insights, suggestions on what needs to be done or can be prevented will be welcome!
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I solved all these problems I bought
Galaxy S21 Ultra Case with Camera Cover,S21 Ultra Slim
oraned said:
I solved all these problems I bought
Galaxy S21 Ultra Case with Camera Cover,S21 Ultra Slim
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I had one of these on my note20u ugliest case ever! But yeah it did its job of protecting.
blackhawk said:
If it's on the internal side there's no way you did. Make sure you specify that if returning it.
If it's on the inside without direct inspection it's hard to tell if it's on or into the glass.
It may simple be a smear albeit a hard to remove smear.
Either way shoddy assembly. Having put together thousands of display assemblies I was always careful that the internal surfaces were spotless.
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hey man,
this smear or minute lines on the inside or whatever is really bugging me!
My experience with samsung support (In my region and India) hasn't been good in the past. They all act as fools who recommend factory reset via their tool for every issue.
My question is will samsung own this or pass on the blame to me as improper handling or usage marks.
I just don't want the already botched up image processing to suffer further.
shetty08 said:
hey man,
this smear or minute lines on the inside or whatever is really bugging me!
My experience with samsung support (In my region and India) hasn't been good in the past. They all act as fools who recommend factory reset via their tool for every issue.
My question is will samsung own this or pass on the blame to me as improper handling or usage marks.
I just don't want the already botched up image processing to suffer further.
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Samsung phone support sucks, real bad.
You can send it in as it's clearly their fault but that will take a lot of time.
Remove back cover and clean or replace if need be. Make sure you have the OEM adhesive strips needed to reassemble it. The replacement lense protector is held on by an adhesive strip*.
It may be easier to get the whole OEM rear panel assembly.
If you do it yourself use heat carefully/evenly and take as long as it takes to carefully pry it open without breaking it. A small amount of isopropyl alcohol can be injected to help break the adhesive seal.
*it maybe replaceable without taking off the rear cover but that maybe hard or impossible to do without marring the cover.
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Keys/coins couldn't scratch the glass anyway. Physically impossible as the glass is harder.
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Sand will easily scratch it. The OP stated that the marks are on the inside, an assembly blunder.
satanatos said:
Really sorry to hear that. Just out of precaution, I have placed a whitestone dome glass protector on mine, just because I dont want to experience anything like that with a EUR1300 phone. Not that much expensive and you get two protectors in the box.
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I just got the Whitestone lens protector myself it's pretty awesome stays on REAL well and adds a bit more sexiness to the already sexy camera bump