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I have to say that i opened my new nexus this morning with excitement. The build quality and style of the phone is great.
That being said as soon as i turned it on i was really disappointed with the screen quality. The colours look washed out like a cheap budget TV in a sun drenched room. Next to an S3 it cant even compare. Side by side comparison with an S3 leaves the nexus looking awful. I put phasebeam live wallpaper on both phones and there really isnt a challenge from the nexus. The blue corner on the nexus is nearly white the colours are so far off. I tried another live wallpaper called Magic Smoke 3D and the blue areas on the S3 are nearly white on the Nexus. Blacks are almost grey too its really poor. I know the OLED vs LCD debate but i think this is more an issue of a very good OLED vs a very poor LCD or at least very poorly calibrated LCD. The Auto brightness is so dim its also useless and i have to set it manually. Its so bad that its dimmer than my OLED which is insane.
Battery life is a real issue. i had nothing of note installed on the phone and went from 74% down to 0 in less than a half days use.
The loud speaker is tinny and sounds pretty bad and the ear speaker is sounding very odd compared to other phones i own.
Stock android has some nice points which i can appreciate but its lacking in other areas which arent easy to live with. No battery percent is a real stupid omission and i know you can mod the phone up but seriously not being able to dial a phone number directly from an email is pretty poor. took me a while to get the copy and paste working to do it.
Whilst a few things are Goolges fault i squarely lay the blame at LG since i saw the Optimus G and i thought the screen was terrible on that also and the other hardware issues are down to cost cutting and lack of care when it comes to colour calibration.
This phone is worth every penny at £280 and thats all its worth. Its nowhere near as good a deal as i believed before i got it in the post this morning. Its certainly not a £400-£500 Phone. Since LG is a screen company its a real shame they screwed this one up so bad.
Its going back to Google on monday and ill think ill wait for the S4.
Maybe try to calibrate it. Mine came out of the box looking good. After some calibration it is not far from the best screen I've used. Also in bright rooms and sun the screen rocks. Maybe you got unlucky?
Also I can get up to 6 hours of screen time usually around 4 though worth heavier use so I cannot relate to this at all
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If you don't like it then just return it. This really isn't a difficult concept. However, for the price you paid you really can't argue about it.
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Couldnt disagree more with the OP ,
but everyone's allowed an opinion .... I think the screen is fantastic and sharp, the S3 imo is oversaturated, and some professionals have said the colours are much truer to life than the S3s , and like @hewettBR said , you could calibrate it to pretty much do anything ya wanted ..
Im a little confused, did you not know what you were getting with stock android? its stock, bone, clean, if you dont like it maybe try a custom rom?
Also the battery life on my device has been fine, gets me through a days usage with 30% left and 3 hours of screen on time, no problem what so ever. also some custom kernels people have got 5-6 hours of screen on time
Just my 2 cents
italia0101 said:
Couldnt disagree more with the OP ,
but everyone's allowed an opinion .... I think the screen is fantastic and sharp, the S3 imo is oversaturated, and some professionals have said the colours are much truer to life than the S3s , and like @hewettBR said , you could calibrate it to pretty much do anything ya wanted ..
Im a little confused, did you not know what you were getting with stock android? its stock, bone, clean, if you dont like it maybe try a custom rom?
Also the battery life on my device has been fine, gets me through a days usage with 30% left and 3 hours of screen on time, no problem what so ever. also some custom kernels people have got 5-6 hours of screen on time
Just my 2 cents
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I know about stock android but i never realised just how lacking stock android can be in areas. Whilst some complex stuff is included other simple stuff is missing. You really dont know whats missing until a feature that you might use every day on an S3 is just not there in Nexus. This isnt as much as a deal breaker as the screen though.
I really dont want true to life screen quality anyway. its a phone and not a window. I want the red green and blues to pop and amaze everytime i look. The contrast should be high and blacks should be dark. With my nexus i have Blue which is actually White! Black which is grey and washed out. I really think i must have a bad sample or maybe its because i have a comparison phone to put the screen against.
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I know about stock android but i never realised just how lacking stock android can be in areas. Whilst some complex stuff is included other simple stuff is missing. You really dont know whats missing until a feature that you might use every day on an S3 is just not there in Nexus. This isnt as much as a deal breaker as the screen though.
I really dont want true to life screen quality anyway. its a phone and not a window. I want the red green and blues to pop and amaze everytime i look. The contrast should be high and blacks should be dark. With my nexus i have Blue which is actually White! Black which is grey and washed out. I really think i must have a bad sample or maybe its because i have a comparison phone to put the screen against.
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Fair enough, if thats how ya feel then thats how you feel
agree
italia0101 said:
Couldnt disagree more with the OP ,
but everyone's allowed an opinion .... I think the screen is fantastic and sharp, the S3 imo is oversaturated, and some professionals have said the colours are much truer to life than the S3s , and like @hewettBR said , you could calibrate it to pretty much do anything ya wanted ..
Im a little confused, did you not know what you were getting with stock android? its stock, bone, clean, if you dont like it maybe try a custom rom?
Also the battery life on my device has been fine, gets me through a days usage with 30% left and 3 hours of screen on time, no problem what so ever. also some custom kernels people have got 5-6 hours of screen on time
Just my 2 cents
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Totally agree with your answer, y asked a designer to choose which screen look better between the S3 and the Nexus 4, and she choose the nexus 4 because it has more realistic colors she said. I was a GSIII owner and I am not regreat about switching to the nexus 4.
Sorry about my english.
Just ordered mine last night. I too have an s3 right now.
I hope I'm not too disappointed.
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I mean really....
As someone who had an S3, went to a N4, then went back to an S3 I noticed the following things after going back to the S3:
The S3's screen is nowhere near as sharp as the Nexus 4's. I never thought the difference between pentile and non pentile was big, but it is. Text is far clearer. Colours between the two are preference. I like the pop of the S3s screen.
The S3 is a slow phone. The Nexus 4 craps on it for UI speed.
The Nexus is a beautiful device. It feels really nice in the hand and feels very high end.
The Nexus battery life is rubbish. I do not understand how people are getting 5 hours of on screen time - maybe they have everything turned off. I like to have wifi, gps, BT, 3g all turned on all the time and the Nexus 4 would barely get me through a day. The S3 easily does it and also has the option of spare battery. Also when gaming on the Nexus the battery goes down a % a minute at least. I played sworcery for 20 mins and my battery had gone from 80 to 50something%!
The Nexus 4 gets HOT during demanding gaming. Like, really hot. Changing the kernel fixed this - I don't know how.
I also missed the swipe left/right to call/message from touchwiz.
Stock android quick toggles, whilst looking really good aren't useful at all. All they do is take you to the settings menu.
I think that on screen buttons are far nicer and the back button being on the LEFT is the right place.
Forgot to add - The main reason I switched back was because of the Camera. It is ASS! Just take a look at the photo thread on these very forums for proof. Also lacks burst mode which is a bit annoying. It also took longer to render HDRs and they weren't that great. A lot of people think it's good because they came from a Galaxy Nexus , which had a mid 2010 5MP shooter in it.
I was a s3 user but I do like the nexus 4 color
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I think the display is worse on the SGIII.
iPhone 5 for example uses Sharp IPS LCD panels and have won many tests against SGIII in terms of display quality and the Nexus 4 uses a newer and better display - though the IPS panel made by LG.
Or perhaps you just like oversaturated colors and the blueish tint that you get from OLED.
http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm
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As someone who had an S3, went to a N4, then went back to an S3 I noticed the following things after going back to the S3:
The S3's screen is nowhere near as sharp as the Nexus 4's. I never thought the difference between pentile and non pentile was big, but it is. Text is far clearer. Colours between the two are preference. I like the pop of the S3s screen.
The S3 is a slow phone. The Nexus 4 craps on it for UI speed.
The Nexus battery life is rubbish. I do not understand how people are getting 5 hours of on screen time - maybe they have everything turned off. I like to have wifi, gps, BT, 3g all turned on all the time and the Nexus 4 would barely get me through a day. The S3 easily does it and also has the option of spare battery. Also when gaming on the Nexus the battery goes down a % a minute at least. I played sworcery for 20 mins and my battery had gone from 80 to 50something%!
The Nexus 4 gets HOT during demanding gaming. Like, really hot. Changing the kernel fixed this - I don't know how.
Stock android quick toggles, whilst looking really good aren't useful at all. All they do is take you to the settings menu.
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Interesting points, but yes the s3 definitely has better battery life than the nexus, unfortunately that is something the nexus isnt good at. But its the fastest android phone, maybe the optimus g as well? I dont know but the nexus is ridiculously fast. Im confident that future android updates will adress those battery issues. In the mean time there are great roms and kernels that give extra juice like franco's kernel or matrix kernel.
I also missed the swipe left/right to call/message from touchwiz.
I agree on the screen, washed out and viewing angles are horrible.
italia0101 said:
Couldnt disagree more with the OP ,
but everyone's allowed an opinion .... I think the screen is fantastic and sharp, the S3 imo is oversaturated, and some professionals have said the colours are much truer to life than the S3s , and like @hewettBR said , you could calibrate it to pretty much do anything ya wanted ..
Im a little confused, did you not know what you were getting with stock android? its stock, bone, clean, if you dont like it maybe try a custom rom?
Also the battery life on my device has been fine, gets me through a days usage with 30% left and 3 hours of screen on time, no problem what so ever. also some custom kernels people have got 5-6 hours of screen on time
Just my 2 cents
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spoonboy said:
As someone who had an S3, went to a N4, then went back to an S3 I noticed the following things after going back to the S3:
The S3's screen is nowhere near as sharp as the Nexus 4's. I never thought the difference between pentile and non pentile was big, but it is. Text is far clearer. Colours between the two are preference. I like the pop of the S3s screen.
The S3 is a slow phone. The Nexus 4 craps on it for UI speed.
The Nexus battery life is rubbish. I do not understand how people are getting 5 hours of on screen time - maybe they have everything turned off. I like to have wifi, gps, BT, 3g all turned on all the time and the Nexus 4 would barely get me through a day. The S3 easily does it and also has the option of spare battery. Also when gaming on the Nexus the battery goes down a % a minute at least. I played sworcery for 20 mins and my battery had gone from 80 to 50something%!
The Nexus 4 gets HOT during demanding gaming. Like, really hot. Changing the kernel fixed this - I don't know how.
I also missed the swipe left/right to call/message from touchwiz.
Stock android quick toggles, whilst looking really good aren't useful at all. All they do is take you to the settings menu.
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I agree on the sharp screen of the Nexus but thats LCD tech and any LCD with 300+ PPI gives that.
My S3 isnt slow though? i tend to use Omega Rom which is rapid. Its easily on par with nexus.
The 400 PPI S4 looks to be the phone for me that will give the sharp text
Dear soon-to-return-nexus-4-users,
You realize the Nexus phone, or any Nexus phone, runs Android WITHOUT any 3rd party skin/addon/UI/etc...?
Yes?
OK. Then Why you ***** about a certain feature exist in a certain 3rd party skin/addon/UI/etc... not available in plain Android?
Next, you should also realize that the pro of owning a Nexus phone is not only about getting updates faster, It's also about the development of Custom ROM/Kernels.
So if you buy a Nexus phone and expect to use it like S3 (i.e. without tinkering the device), you are buying it wrong and I do, REALLY do suggest you return it and go back to your TouchWiz phones.
Later.
it's true google calibration is a bit washed out and weak out of the box
but..
1) let the glue dry and screen burn in for a week or two
2) you can make the colours burn your eyes out with gamma control kernels if you want
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The 400 PPI S4 looks to be the phone for me that will give the sharp text
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You won't be able to tell the differences under normal usage conditions. Trust me.
And I can already forsee tons of website will use magnifiers to tell you how small the pixels are and how sharp things are.
Let the glue dry?
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You won't be able to tell the differences under normal usage conditions. Trust me.
And I can already forsee tons of website will use magnifiers to tell you how small the pixels are and how sharp things are.
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Complete waste of phone battery and processing power IMO - why the **** would you want 400PPI when you can't even see the difference!
And no damn website would ever use 400PPI images - simply because they would be HUGE in size.
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Let the glue dry?
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Sarcasm i think.
Hello my dear XDA people. I am sorry if this thread is a little bit odd or something like that but i have a few questions for the owners of a G Flex. I just purchased online on my carrier a G Flex and i should receive it in 2 days. The questions are these:
1. When i bought an HTC One X there was a problem with some displays, some of them were showing odd colours or bars, altought i didn't had any problems with mine. Are there any problems regarding the screen of the G Flex that i should be aware of and check them if i have a problem with it?
2. As far as i understood and saw on some youtube videos the phone is pretty resistent when it comes to bend it or stuff like that, but i am an active person and i have a big flaw in my character that i put my phone in my back pocket, can i be sure that it will resist if i sit on it in my car or in the plane?
3. Most of the people are praising it for the battery life which they say it's amazing, on my phones i always have the mobile network on and most of my phones have to be charged before noon. I usualy use the mail apps, some teamviewer and when i am really bored i check my facebook or instagram, ow and i use the Word app verry much because i have to write papers all the time. Will my battery in the conditions mentioned above rezist at least 1 day?
4. On my iphone 5 i had really big problems with the signal when i bought it, i could't use it for like...a month or so until Apple released some updates for it. Does the G Flex have any signal problems? This is one of my main concerns.
Thank you verry much and i am so sorry for this long post, i just want to know what can i expect when i receive this phone and if i have to stay with a backup phone with me, that is all. Thank you verry much again and have a nice day.
1 The display is good.
Only if you dim the brightness under 75% you can see some granulosity(set the display on "Vivid" ) .
2 The Flex, due to its shape and declared resistance, should resist in the rear pocket. LG says it should tolerate a 40kg weight.
3 Battery life is very good, and for the use described should last until evening without recharging it. Just let the brightness on 95%,not 100%.
4 The signal is not the best ever seen. When you are in an area with good reception, no problems. When you have poor reception, the phone is lazy when switching from a cell to another. It is not the best thing of this device.
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unseen said:
1 The display is good.
Only if you dim the brightness under 75% you can see some granulosity(set the display on "Vivid" ) .
2 The Flex, due to its shape and declared resistance, should resist in the rear pocket. LG says it should tolerate a 40kg weight.
3 Battery life is very good, and for the use described should last until evening without recharging it. Just let the brightness on 95%,not 100%.
4 The signal is not the best ever seen. When you are in an area with good reception, no problems. When you have poor reception, the phone is lazy when switching from a cell to another. It is not the best thing of this device.
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Ok,so this phone seems a good choice so far, thank you for the tips.
1. Some screens are grainy so look for that.
2. Don't worry about that.
3. Battery life is the least you have to worry about on this phone! It's fantastic. About as good as it gets.
4. I don't have signal problems. As good as any Android I've had.
I have very good reception, best i ever had.
I always leave the screen brightness on 0%, screen is still very good readable and battery even last longer.
Best phone ever owned, still love it.
I know since G Flex 2 is just announced. I actually like the Flex. Just wanted to know if anyone has any peculiar inputs about it. Things I need to be careful about...?
Does anyone get a headache due to the bent screen?
Thanks!
X0LARIUM said:
I know since G Flex 2 is just announced. I actually like the Flex. Just wanted to know if anyone has any peculiar inputs about it. Things I need to be careful about...?
Does anyone get a headache due to the bent screen?
Thanks!
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Great phone, IMO I like the design of the old flex better than the new one. I was planning on updating because the phone does have a sub par screen ( eg: the slight ghosting and 720p) but I couldn't go without the notification light on the back! No headaches from the screen at all, the real headaches are from the small number of devs working on this phone! Once the flex gets lollipop this phone will be golden.
would buy
dmifsud44 said:
Great phone, IMO I like the design of the old flex better than the new one. I was planning on updating because the phone does have a sub par screen ( eg: the slight ghosting and 720p) but I couldn't go without the notification light on the back! No headaches from the screen at all, the real headaches are from the small number of devs working on this phone! Once the flex gets lollipop this phone will be golden.
would buy
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Thanks so much dear friend...I was just wondering if reading books is an issue. The 5.5 Flex2 would be great I know.. But the price is great too and this worries me.
The Flex original looks awesome...not very worried about the 720p display unless its a real hindrance.
I would mostly be doing:
Texting(WhatsApp)
Instagram
Flipboard
Google Books
and other regular browsing.
Occasionally movies watching...
What do you recommend then...the new Flex or the Original?
X0LARIUM said:
Thanks so much dear friend...I was just wondering if reading books is an issue. The 5.5 Flex2 would be great I know.. But the price is great too and this worries me.
The Flex original looks awesome...not very worried about the 720p display unless its a real hindrance.
I would mostly be doing:
Texting(WhatsApp)
Instagram
Flipboard
Google Books
and other regular browsing.
Occasionally movies watching...
What do you recommend then...the new Flex or the Original?
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Then i would definitely recommend the first one. Bigger battery life, bigger screen and MUCH smaller price tag.
The screen really isn't even noticeably an issue unless you are on lowest brightness all the time (like me), but even then the screen is still pretty nice looking. The flex's poled screen would be great for reading with a black background on white text because it really produces deep blacks and uses no battery doing so!
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Then i would definitely recommend the first one. Bigger battery life, bigger screen and MUCH smaller price tag.
The screen really isn't even noticeably an issue unless you are on lowest brightness all the time (like me), but even then the screen is still pretty nice looking. The flex's poled screen would be great for reading with a black background on white text because it really produces deep blacks and uses no battery doing so!
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I've heard a lot about the legendary battery life...let's see how the Flex2 is priced..but so far...the flex original is my fav.
Thanks again..also...does it slow down with a tons of apps installed/?
Well, the gf2 is going to be priced higher than the g3. So expect 250$ to 350$ carrier pricing.
I've not experienced any slow down with tonns of apps installed.
Make sure though, if buying online, not to get a Chinese or Japan version.
I've been very happy with my flex, and came from the note2 which has mega dev support.
The 720p p-oled screen isn't as bad as many say. If you hold it 3inches from your face, you'll notice its not perfect, but at a normal 12inches or more its just fine.
Battery life is just stellar. There isn't much bad to say about it, other than taking slightly longer to charge.
All in all, if you want a large screen, top shelf battery life, and a dam near unbreakable phone, then the OG Flex is definitely not a bad choice.
on my flex last night I got 6.5 hours of screen on time and 17 hours on battery and was only down to 25% battery life and it said estimated life left was 3 hours
Thanks both you guys! Looking forward to get the Flex!!
na
Run run run FAST Dont waste your time on the FLEX
I wish there was a way to NOT thank someone, other than just not THANKING them...? Ickyz, ? indeed.
Really like this phone. Except the lack of development.
As far as F2 smaller screen & poorer battery life. If the F2 unsubsidized price is the same as the original ~$940 USD it's going to keep a lot of people away.
If the Flex was the same price as comparable Samsungs it'd have just as much development. But pricing it $300-$400 more than the Samsungs is crushing the development of it.
I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
These are really just my opinions, and you are free to disagree. Even I might change my mind if there are really good reasons to!
I might as well add that paid about $860 (in Norway) for my P10 Plus while Galaxy S8+ costs "slightly more" (about $1,000). I just feel like I got so little in return for the price I paid.
I have to decide by tomorrow anyway whether to keep this device or return it, and I am currently leaning towards returning it.
Thanks for any tips, advices, opinions, etc.
Good things:
Responsive fingerprint reader on the front side, unlocks screen pretty much instantly.
Has a nice shape (like an iPhone 7). No annoying sharp edges except at the bottom holes for connectors, where I support the device with my pinky finger.
Lots of camera settings.
My device luckily has UFS 2.1.
Pretty good WiFi speed (measured more than 200 Mbps during internet speed test).
The DAC's quality is okay (not very good). A little bit of noise when using my sensitive in-ear headphones, but it's very bearable. This is only a "good" point because it's an upgrade from my old phone.
Bad things:
I already found some sluggish menus on day one.
Somewhat bad performance when taking photos and shooting videos, even playing back videos I captured is somewhat choppy.
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
The swiping on the fingerprint reader is a bit of a hit and miss because it might register a tap which means "back" (or exit).
Photos taken and saved as JPEG look bad. RAW images look quite a bit better but it takes seconds to save each image.
My GFXBench result is pretty bad compared to other devices.
Nitpicking:
The edge of the screen protector is so annoying I want to take it off. Note: If you do it, you might want to apply oleophobic coating.
I wish the fingerprint sensor indentation was a bit less deep, because it makes the swiping motion feel less comfortable. The screen protector is probably most of the reason though.
I was never able to transfer app data (only apps themselves) from my old device using any method suggested by Huawei. The thing that did work was a backup/restore using adb.
USB 2 is pretty slow after getting used to USB 3.
The device sometimes thinks that I am using a knuckle gesture when I am using the tip of my finger.
sometimes very laggy also. And some apps not compatible with the camera.
Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Camera send not so good to me, maybe I don't know how to use it
nougn said:
I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
Bad things:
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
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Pretty much this phone is unusable due these 2 things, battery life is poor as AF, and from my perspective, Huawei messed up EMUI 5.1 really hard.
Probably an update would fix it, but we don't have ETA yet.
I will return back the P10 Plus because I think is not worth it, and I will buy a Mate 9 Pro that is virtually the same device, but battery life is so much better.
@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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Well, I'm talking about my room, which has air conditioning, and I just bought the P10 Plus and today I returned it back.
Problem solved, I got my money back, and I'm trying to see which phone to get, but pretty much I don' t like what I see in the market now.
Galaxo60 said:
This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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Bromsoket said:
The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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Today I returned my P10 Plus, for me there's no excuse to pay so much for a phone that has basic problems.
I will see if I get a Mate 9 Pro or any other phone, but I'm kind of picky when getting a new device.
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Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
nougn said:
Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
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You should post your experiences in the battery thread, so it could have more visibility and people can start to acknowledge this, would be really nice from you to do it.
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Different screens
The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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I'm sorry, but there is no way that the screen technology is the decisive factor between 3 and 6 hours SOT.
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adds to the difference
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decisive factor
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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I understand your point, but still having AMOLED display means nothing in 2017. You can see the HTC U11 with LCD and has pretty goddamn battery life. You can have the normal Mate 9 with IPS and also has a really nice battery life. Right now screen technologies are really mature and it doesn't influence much (or at all) what kind is on a phone.
@Galaxo60
Point taken
Came from S8, I used it for a couple of months and now Im using P10 Plus.
Im more than happy now with P10+.
I have had my P10 Plus for about 2 months now and I can tell you I get around 5 hours of SOT with 1-2 of gaming. The battery stays at 100% for about 15 minutes regardless what I do and then begins to drop. Somehow form 70% downwards it starts to really slow its discharge rate. You might worry about this but the honest truth is that I can make it at the end of each day (around midnight) with around 15-20% battery left. For me this is more than enough as I recharge my phone every night.
I would suggest you stop worrying about your phone dying on you and just start using it. Also use Phone Manager once a day and you'll be good to go.
Hope it helps.
Hi Guys,
I just purchased a brand new Galaxy S21 Ultra,
I am loving the phone, however I have noticed a gap between the screen and Body of the phone and I can slide a piece of paper through it.
(Pictures attached below)
I am deeply disappointed with this, is this normal?
I previously had the s7 and s9 and both had similar manufacturing flaws, it **bleep** to see that Samsung Quality control has still not changed over the years.
Is this a problem? Shall this affect the water resistance of the phone or is this normal?
Please help and give your feedbacks
I'm able to slide a paper in between the front and back glass and the frame too. I guess it's by design...? Never really noticed it in all these months till you pointed it out and frankly, even after seeing it now, it doesn't bother me. I guess some clearance is required between the brittle glass and the metal frame to prevent stress fractures of the glass when the frame deforms under stress, like @adamlee2012 said in his post.
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Mine has gaps the same on the top on both corners. I think it's normal, it's to protect from impact, more likely to crack the glass if frame and glass are touching.
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Thank you for your reply.
That is true however I'm concerned regarding the water resistance?
I tried submerging my phone in a bucket of water for 10mins, other than the microphone which eventually started working after it dried out. Everything else seemed fine
But if this Is normal why is that other device may or may not have it?
enigmaamit said:
I'm able to slide a paper in between the front and back glass and the frame too. I guess it's by design...? Never really noticed it in all these months till you pointed it out and frankly, even after seeing it now, it doesn't bother me. I guess some clearance is required between the brittle glass and the metal frame to prevent stress fractures of the glass when the frame deforms under stress, like @adamlee2012 said in his post.
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That is true but shouldn't it be uniform then, why is that some parts have a wider gap than the others and if so isn't that a manufacturing defect after all?
Do you suggest to keep or return this device?
salvator101 said:
Thank you for your reply.
That is true however I'm concerned regarding the water resistance?
I tried submerging my phone in a bucket of water for 10mins, other than the microphone which eventually started working after it dried out. Everything else seemed fine
But if this Is normal why is that other device may or may not have it?
That is true but shouldn't it be uniform then, why is that some parts have a wider gap than the others and if so isn't that a manufacturing defect after all?
Do you suggest to keep or return this device?
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I'm not sure if this will be accepted by Samsung as a valid reason for replacement. But if you're unhappy, by all means try to get a replacement or refund. It's your money, and you should be fully satisfied with what you bought with it, especially for this kind of asking price.
If the gap is giving you sleepless nights, better to get it replaced, or refund to get another phone. If I were you, I'd leave it alone. But it's your decision.
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I'm not sure if this will be accepted by Samsung as a valid reason for replacement. But if you're unhappy, by all means try to get a replacement or refund. It's your money, and you should be fully satisfied with what you bought with it, especially for this kind of asking price.
If the gap is giving you sleepless nights, better to get it replaced, or refund to get another phone. If I were you, I'd leave it alone. But it's your decision.
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Well I purchased it off Amazon and I can return it for a refund, however the problem is due to the semi conductor chip shortage, there are no phones in stock, I had to wait for 2 months to get this device, now if I return it I don't know when the next one will come.
Also I am concerned that what if the replacement phone has wider gaps, I mean if this is normal and every device has it then it makes no sense to return it, am I right?
On a side note I found this statement from samsung
salvator101 said:
Hi Guys,
I just purchased a brand new Galaxy S21 Ultra,
I am loving the phone, however I have noticed a gap between the screen and Body of the phone and I can slide a piece of paper through it.
(Pictures attached below)
I am deeply disappointed with this, is this normal?
I previously had the s7 and s9 and both had similar manufacturing flaws, it **bleep** to see that Samsung Quality control has still not changed over the years.
Is this a problem? Shall this affect the water resistance of the phone or is this normal?
Please help and give your feedbacks
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Welcome to 4 years ago.
There is an app here in the s21U forum that checks the waterproofness of the device by asking you to press the screen hard so the app can check the internal pressure sensors.
It is made with the purpose of checking if the phones seals have worn out.
If yours is fine then you should probably just wear a case on the phone and move on
babyboy3265 said:
There is an app here in the s21U forum that checks the waterproofness of the device by asking you to press the screen hard so the app can check the internal pressure sensors.
It is made with the purpose of checking if the phones seals have worn out.
If yours is fine then you should probably just wear a case on the phone and move on
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I did use the app, it uses the barometer to gauge if the water seal is broken or not.
However I do not know how accurate it is.
My phone passed the test though
I don't have this gap on my S21U Silver.
Everything is like molded and glued together
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I did use the app, it uses the barometer to gauge if the water seal is broken or not.
However I do not know how accurate it is.
My phone passed the test though
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Well you already submerged the phone into water for 10 mins and all was fine so I see no reason to worry. The test must be accurate.
Honestly, given how tough it is to get a phone like that today, best case is to just put a cover on it and forget about the gap.
Unless you wanna try and go to the seller and ask for a new pone and see what they have to say. Soon new, or not...?
Nat.smith26 said:
I don't have this gap on my S21U Silver.
Everything is like molded and glued together
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Are you certain there is no gap at all on any of the sides?
babyboy3265 said:
Well you already submerged the phone into water for 10 mins and all was fine so I see no reason to worry. The test must be accurate.
Honestly, given how tough it is to get a phone like that today, best case is to just put a cover on it and forget about the gap.
Unless you wanna try and go to the seller and ask for a new pone and see what they have to say. Soon new, or not...?
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That is true.
I purchased it from Amazon and I gave only return it for a refund as they do not have any stock for a replacement, I waited for this phone itself for 1 month or so.
Also the phone is heating a lot and the battery life sucks. I have the Exynos variant. The ideal temperature is 35-38*C with some camera usage it goes up to 45 *C. Don't know if that's normal or what
My battery is showing learning usage pattern and it's on day 3.
So I'm really confused
salvator101 said:
Are you certain there is no gap at all on any of the sides?
That is true.
I purchased it from Amazon and I gave only return it for a refund as they do not have any stock for a replacement, I waited for this phone itself for 1 month or so.
Also the phone is heating a lot and the battery life sucks. I have the Exynos variant. The ideal temperature is 35-38*C with some camera usage it goes up to 45 *C. Don't know if that's normal or what
My battery is showing learning usage pattern and it's on day 3.
So I'm really confused
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If you can get a refund for it then that's not bad. Don't know where you live but it might be best to consider buying it locally if it exists in any shop near you.
I also got the exynos. The heating was present at 1st but eventually it stopped. After the usage was calibrated. And on the latest update with plenty of bloatware removed as per Ketan Rom.
Cemera heating up a bit is normal. If it really overheats and it starts being unresponsive that's a problem. Also if you are recording a video in hot weather that's a guaranteed HOT phone. It's happening for everyone and it is normal.
babyboy3265 said:
If you can get a refund for it then that's not bad. Don't know where you live but it might be best to consider buying it locally if it exists in any shop near you.
I also got the exynos. The heating was present at 1st but eventually it stopped. After the usage was calibrated. And on the latest update with plenty of bloatware removed as per Ketan Rom.
Cemera heating up a bit is normal. If it really overheats and it starts being unresponsive that's a problem. Also if you are recording a video in hot weather that's a guaranteed HOT phone. It's happening for everyone and it is normal.
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Hey thanks for the swift reply.
I live in India, the only feasible and best way to purchase it is via Amazon as they have a return period of 7 days if I purchase it from Samsung or any other local shop, there return period is max 24 hours which sucks.
I love the phone, love everything about it and especially now with the new iPhone out, I can still say that this crushes it, there is no other viable contender for it out there.
I can get it refunded and wait for the next bunch of stock, perhaps that might take another 10-15 days or a month due to the semi conductor shortage issue otherwise I can just keep this phone and use it however it pisses me off that inspire of paying 1200$ for it. There are such manufacturing flaw.
Also I forgot to ask and You didn't mention, does your phone have similar gaps where you can slide a piece of paper with ease?
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Hey thanks for the swift reply.
I live in India, the only feasible and best way to purchase it is via Amazon as they have a return period of 7 days if I purchase it from Samsung or any other local shop, there return period is max 24 hours which sucks.
I love the phone, love everything about it and especially now with the new iPhone out, I can still say that this crushes it, there is no other viable contender for it out there.
I can get it refunded and wait for the next bunch of stock, perhaps that might take another 10-15 days or a month due to the semi conductor shortage issue otherwise I can just keep this phone and use it however it pisses me off that inspire of paying 1200$ for it. There are such manufacturing flaw.
Also I forgot to ask and You didn't mention, does your phone have similar gaps where you can slide a piece of paper with ease?
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It is an annoying situation indeed... Mine doesn't have the gaps, no. It is the silver exynos 256gb.
I'd say this is a rare issue and getting another phone would 99.9% be gapless... 24h is enough to test it throughly as well, so... Definitely consider it.
It also beats the new iPhone and that's a fact.
Lolz
babyboy3265 said:
It is an annoying situation indeed... Mine doesn't have the gaps, no. It is the silver exynos 256gb.
I'd say this is a rare issue and getting another phone would 99.9% be gapless... 24h is enough to test it throughly as well, so... Definitely consider it.
It also beats the new iPhone and that's a fact.
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Yeah that truly sucks.
My phone just finished the battery learning usage calibrating and I'm getting around 5.5hrs of SOT which is horrible compared to what others are getting and all the reviews out there.
I'm using adaptive 120hz refresh, wifi and 4g on, light surfing usage + Bluetooth on and always connected to the watch + WQHD enabled
Is this battery life normal? how much of SOT are you getting?
I was shocked to see that some people got 8-10 hrs of SOT while I only get the half
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Yeah that truly sucks.
My phone just finished the battery learning usage calibrating and I'm getting around 5.5hrs of SOT which is horrible compared to what others are getting and all the reviews out there.
I'm using adaptive 120hz refresh, wifi and 4g on, light surfing usage + Bluetooth on and always connected to the watch + WQHD enabled
Is this battery life normal? how much of SOT are you getting?
I was shocked to see that some people got 8-10 hrs of SOT while I only get the half
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I'm getting around 6 hours of SOT with one and a half days of mixed usage. All features of the phone enabled. I'm happy with it.
There are users on XDA who've reported 8-10 hours of SOT but I've never been able to achieve that routinely. I have managed to reach 8hrs of SOT a couple of times, but I had to disable 4G, use only wifi, disable background sync, not use my Galaxy Watch, not open any app that used camera, stay in dark mode with low screen brightness, automatic brightness disabled etc etc to achieve that.
I didn't like the experience so decided to use the phone to it's fullest capability and forget about SOT as long as I got through to my bedtime.
I used to feel envious of these people initially, wondering why my phone didn't get insane SOT but after a few months of using this phone, I just don't care anymore, as I get to the end of my typical day with half the battery remaining.
Everyone has a different usage pattern, so battery life can vary wildly. If you're unhappy, you can try to disable some features, try debloating etc to try to improve it and see how it goes for you
salvator101 said:
Yeah that truly sucks.
My phone just finished the battery learning usage calibrating and I'm getting around 5.5hrs of SOT which is horrible compared to what others are getting and all the reviews out there.
I'm using adaptive 120hz refresh, wifi and 4g on, light surfing usage + Bluetooth on and always connected to the watch + WQHD enabled
Is this battery life normal? how much of SOT are you getting?
I was shocked to see that some people got 8-10 hrs of SOT while I only get the half
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100% what the above comment said.
I also can get about 6h sot with everything enabled including AOD. I spare nothing and 5-6h SOT is more than enough.
It easily lasts a day and that does it for me.
All the people showing how they got 8h+ SOT are basically using the phone at a very limited capacity. Lowering everything to show others how much SOT u got, is similar to cheating in a game. It's not realistic.
Your s21u is better than anything else u even had n the past. it is okay that the SOT is less than some other phones, they don't have what ur phone has.
So enjoy and don't overthink it.
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I'm getting around 6 hours of SOT with one and a half days of mixed usage. All features of the phone enabled. I'm happy with it.
There are users on XDA who've reported 8-10 hours of SOT but I've never been able to achieve that routinely. I have managed to reach 8hrs of SOT a couple of times, but I had to disable 4G, use only wifi, disable background sync, not use my Galaxy Watch, not open any app that used camera, stay in dark mode with low screen brightness, automatic brightness disabled etc etc to achieve that.
I didn't like the experience so decided to use the phone to it's fullest capability and forget about SOT as long as I got through to my bedtime.
I used to feel envious of these people initially, wondering why my phone didn't get insane SOT but after a few months of using this phone, I just don't care anymore, as I get to the end of my typical day with half the battery remaining.
Everyone has a different usage pattern, so battery life can vary wildly. If you're unhappy, you can try to disable some features, try debloating etc to try to improve it and see how it goes for you
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babyboy3265 said:
100% what the above comment said.
I also can get about 6h sot with everything enabled including AOD. I spare nothing and 5-6h SOT is more than enough.
It easily lasts a day and that does it for me.
All the people showing how they got 8h+ SOT are basically using the phone at a very limited capacity. Lowering everything to show others how much SOT u got, is similar to cheating in a game. It's not realistic.
Your s21u is better than anything else u even had n the past. it is okay that the SOT is less than some other phones, they don't have what ur phone has.
So enjoy and don't overthink it.
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I get 5.5hrs max of SOT with screen on QHD+ 120hz enabled, wifi connected and galaxy watch connected. I have been trying to limit background apps an so but can't survive for more than 5.5hrs.
Max my phone lasts is for 18-19hrs with 5.5hrs of SOT.
I have gone through several reviews of people claiming 8hrs+
I don't even have heavy usage, all I use is WhatsApp, YouTube and chrome and a bit of Facebook.
Considering how light the usage is surely the battery life sucks?
As enigmaamit above also said that he has mixed usage and still gets 6+ hrs and mine is light usage and it still struggles so I wonder is this normal?
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I get 5.5hrs max of SOT with screen on QHD+ 120hz enabled, wifi connected and galaxy watch connected. I have been trying to limit background apps an so but can't survive for more than 5.5hrs.
Max my phone lasts is for 18-19hrs with 5.5hrs of SOT.
I have gone through several reviews of people claiming 8hrs+
I don't even have heavy usage, all I use is WhatsApp, YouTube and chrome and a bit of Facebook.
Considering how light the usage is surely the battery life sucks?
As enigmaamit above also said that he has mixed usage and still gets 6+ hrs and mine is light usage and it still struggles so I wonder is this normal?
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There are too many variables into the equation...
FB uses plenty of battery for one.
Two, maybe where you are, your phone isn't catching great signal. usually when that happens, it drains the battery as the device is constantly trying to get better signal.
Maybe since you are not rooted you have plenty of bloatware that is draining your battery.
Additionally, putting usused apps to sleep, adaptive battery being ON, and also maybe you are using white mode instead of dark mode. Dark mode saves plenty of battery on our amoled screens.
Also I am rooted. So no bloatware. Battery fully calibrated. No draining apps. I use FB trough my KIWI browser with dark mode on for all pages.
If you get a full day, you are good.