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Hi Guys
i've heard that you can turn off the gps which would imply its permantley on, is this true? If so, any one know how to turn it off as I can't find what is probably an obvious menu/option.
I need to turn it off as i am only getting six hours of idle on any charge of my phone - have an extended batt on order and it is using push email (constantly connected) which is a must for me.
No real complaints apart from battery (which was expected and being sorted) and seems pretty good so far.
Oh, anyone else ditch touchflo? Thought it was rubbish myself
If GPS was able to be turned off, how much battery might it save? The difference could be transforming!
I personally don't think that GPS would be permanently turned on.
Maybe the interface, which "looks" if a demand on GPS data exists...
IF the GPS would be permanently turned on, the battery drain would
be very high, and the device would get assumingly very hot.
mine eats battery more than a fat bird eats bugers and mcdonalds and yes, its very hot as well .. although, this could be coz its pretty much always plugged in.... ?
GPS is only 'on' when it is called for by any external program. If it were on all the time the phone would be flat in about two hours regardless what you did with it.
TML1504 said:
I personally don't think that GPS would be permanently turned on.
Maybe the interface, which "looks" if a demand on GPS data exists...
IF the GPS would be permanently turned on, the battery drain would
be very high, and the device would get assumingly very hot.
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Good point
ericsson68 said:
GPS is only 'on' when it is called for by any external program. If it were on all the time the phone would be flat in about two hours regardless what you did with it.
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do you KNOW that or are you assuming that?
I know I have seen programs that turn it off just as usual, the search on here has let me down. If this was definetly the case, then why would programs like these be written?
Monty Burns said:
mine eats battery more than a fat bird eats bugers and mcdonalds and yes, its very hot as well .. although, this could be coz its pretty much always plugged in.... ?
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Yes, it is a known fact that the Diamond heats up when you are charging it (to levels some may find concerning) but HTC have dismissed this as 'normal operation'.
If it was on all the time you would have an instant fix on where you are straight away .
If it was on all the time your battery would last as said around two hours
I think it is in standby mode if this is what you mean but does need software activation to enable it on as in transmit and receive .
Not sure if turning off standby mode would be a good idea but if you google for the chipset name and have a read up it will let you know these kind of things
Are you sure you guys are not getting confused with GPRS, not GPS?
That can drain battery life, and by disabling GPRS Auto Attach using Advance Config tool, can extend your battery by around 40%!
Abs. said:
Are you sure you guys are not getting confused with GPRS, not GPS?
That can drain battery life, and by disabling GPRS Auto Attach using Advance Config tool, can extend your battery by around 40%!
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if I do this, then im guessing my push email wont work? .... and maybe i am?
Well, here's an odd question.
I really want to drain my battery, preferably quite fast. At the moment I've got it on full brightness, no screen timeout, running a particle simulator, but it's dropping quite slowly. I want my battery to feel the burn! Are there any apps that people would suggest to absolutely kill my battery?
I'm actually considering writing an app that kills CPU, accesses the net, attempts to connect to GPS etc etc... Could make my life easier.
Soo simple just connect to ur wifi or 2g network i will drain automatically
Kamilabano said:
Soo simple just connect to ur wifi or 2g network i will drain automatically
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Nope, I'm talking heavy duty, 20% per half hour drain.
load maps in the background..turn gps data wifi..livewallpaper..play music while playing games.. wala! battery drain so fast..
Just turn everything on and play with mmorpg like pocket legend with 3G connection. I think you Will drain from full to empty in about 2 hours
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Hmm.... While most of these are good solutions, they all require active use of the phone. Anything that I can set and forget?
set the phone to 'never sleep' under settings.
the like said above, leave as many apps running, music, play a 720p video,
Leave camcorder running, gps on, wifi, everything you can imagine,
then leave it, If the phone wont sleep, the apps should stay running, unless RAM gets low
overclock to 1.6ghz and do other stuffs and it will go like a rocket
or if u r total nuts then connect + to the -
samiulislam16 said:
overclock to 1.6ghz and do other stuffs and it will go like a rocket
or if u r total nuts then connect + to the -
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Ah yes, overclocking, thanks for that tip.
And perhaps I should find a nice resistor to do that...
montymintypie said:
Hmm.... While most of these are good solutions, they all require active use of the phone. Anything that I can set and forget?
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Play a movie at full brightness
montymintypie said:
Well, here's an odd question.
I really want to drain my battery, preferably quite fast. At the moment I've got it on full brightness, no screen timeout, running a particle simulator, but it's dropping quite slowly. I want my battery to feel the burn! Are there any apps that people would suggest to absolutely kill my battery?
I'm actually considering writing an app that kills CPU, accesses the net, attempts to connect to GPS etc etc... Could make my life easier.
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Download Stability test from Market.Fastest way to drain battery
malcho said:
Download Stability test from Market.Fastest way to drain battery
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Hey, this is EXACTLY what I was looking for, thanks! In fact, I may also go ahead and overclock now I have this.
You could also try downloading something with 3G in the background when running Stability test.
Turn on wifi/bluetooth/gps and download a large file too
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Hey, this is EXACTLY what I was looking for, thanks! In fact, I may also go ahead and overclock now I have this.
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It's no problem.Enjoy
Stock JVR with Semaphore 1.6.0bm
hi guys
i have the htc one for aweek ,i have battery drop when i dont tuch the phone
i can lose for 5 % for hour what can i do
i download wakelock, betterbatterystats
tell me how to use and what photo to upload
ty so much
roy1210 said:
hi guys
i have the htc one for aweek ,i have battery drop when i dont tuch the phone
i can lose for 5 % for hour what can i do
i download wakelock, betterbatterystats
tell me how to use and what photo to upload
ty so much
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Charge your phone to 100%, then wait for the issue to happen. When it does, open Better Battery Stats and take a screenshot of Kernel Wakelocks and Partial Wakelocks.
ArmedandDangerous said:
Charge your phone to 100%, then wait for the issue to happen. When it does, open Better Battery Stats and take a screenshot of Kernel Wakelocks and Partial Wakelocks.
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tnx for the answer
here the screenshots
Haha man, I'm sorry but I don't read Jewish (I'm assuming that's Jewish) So I can't tell what's on GSAM Just continue using it until it's low, then take the screenshot again, preferably in English
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Haha man, I'm sorry but I don't read Jewish (I'm assuming that's Jewish) So I can't tell what's on GSAM Just continue using it until it's low, then take the screenshot again, preferably in English
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here more some photo like you want i think the problem in the audioout_4
tnx for all the help bro
Audio_out4 is the speakers. It seems you're getting lots of notifications? To test it, try setting it on silent or vibrate only. This wakelock should disappear. I've had this on my HoX before, but it didn't eat as much battery as yours is doing though. Let me know if it still drains in silent/vibrate.
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Audio_out4 is the speakers. It seems you're getting lots of notifications? To test it, try setting it on silent or vibrate only. This wakelock should disappear. I've had this on my HoX before, but it didn't eat as much battery as yours is doing though. Let me know if it still drains in silent/vibrate.
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after viewing the photo you sure thats what drop my battery?
and iwill try the silent mode but if it his what can i do to fix it with ring
tnx
roy1210 said:
after viewing the photo you sure thats what drop my battery?
and iwill try the silent mode but if it his what can i do to fix it with ring
tnx
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Download Greenify, use it with Maps. Turn off your sound. Maybe consider Greenifying Whatsapp (lose push notifications)
MacHackz said:
Download Greenify, use it with Maps. Turn off your sound. Maybe consider Greenifying Whatsapp (lose push notifications)
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tnx for your answer; greenify need root i didnt root my device i will try the rest tnx
ArmedandDangerous said:
Audio_out4 is the speakers. It seems you're getting lots of notifications? To test it, try setting it on silent or vibrate only. This wakelock should disappear. I've had this on my HoX before, but it didn't eat as much battery as yours is doing though. Let me know if it still drains in silent/vibrate.
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hi
after i been on silent mode i lose for 5 hours 20 %
more help guys
ArmedandDangerous said:
Audio_out4 is the speakers. It seems you're getting lots of notifications? To test it, try setting it on silent or vibrate only. This wakelock should disappear. I've had this on my HoX before, but it didn't eat as much battery as yours is doing though. Let me know if it still drains in silent/vibrate.
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like you can see the silent mode didnt help me
i did Factory reset and now its look better with the progrmas 99% of the time the phone get sleep
but i steel loose like 2-3 % for hour
does the use with those program drain the battery more?
i will upload you more photos in afew hours to see the new stats
tnx
i upload the photos
I don't seem to see anything that's wrong with your wakelocks ): I'm a bit interested in the No Data Connection, and No or Unknown Signal. Did your phone spend a lot of time in low reception areas?
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I don't seem to see anything that's wrong with your wakelocks ): I'm a bit interested in the No Data Connection, and No or Unknown Signal. Did your phone spend a lot of time in low reception areas?
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no i alwys have full singal
the wakelock look fine now but did you see the battery its stell not well
If you're trying to achieve ZERO PERCENT battery loss when the phone is idle, you're going to be sorely disappointed. As you've noted, even when you're not actively using the phone, the battery is still discharging. He'll, even if you were to POWER OFF the phone completely, the battery would still discharge. It's physics and unfortunately I'm not educated enough to explain exactly why. 2-3% battery loss per hour is really good and probably the best your going to get.
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If you're trying to achieve ZERO PERCENT battery loss when the phone is idle, you're going to be sorely disappointed. As you've noted, even when you're not actively using the phone, the battery is still discharging. He'll, even if you were to POWER OFF the phone completely, the battery would still discharge. It's physics and unfortunately I'm not educated enough to explain exactly why. 2-3% battery loss per hour is really good and probably the best your going to get.
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tnx for your answer
but my frind have the same phone and in idle of 8 hours he lost 2-3 %
why my phone use more?
I saw that answer coming and, no offense, I think your friend is full of it. Short of leaving the phone powered down or in airplane mode, I can't imagine how he's pulling that off. Never in my phone loving history dating back to the good old G1 have I achieved that. I've seen it done on my iPhone before, but not Android. If he's really pulling that off, get him on here ASAP and have him share his secrets! D
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I saw that answer coming and, no offense, I think your friend is full of it. Short of leaving the phone powered down or in airplane mode, I can't imagine how he's pulling that off. Never in my phone loving history dating back to the good old G1 have I achieved that. I've seen it done on my iPhone before, but not Android. If he's really pulling that off, get him on here ASAP and have him share his secrets! D
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lol i will chack with him tnx alot bro
roy1210 said:
lol i will chack with him tnx alot bro
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Only way to achieve that is probably on the HoX with undervolting. That companion core really sucks very little power.
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Only way to achieve that is probably on the HoX with undervolting. That companion core really sucks very little power.
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what you mean by that i lost you bro
According to gsam Google service Is the culprit if ny high awake times (see screenshot below). But how can I reduce this problem without defeating the purpose of having a smartphone,and according to the battery graph u don't see Google services listed at all.
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A 21-minute wakelock out of a 12 hour recording session. The sky must be falling.
Unless you shut down any Google app using Google Play Services, no, there's nothing to do. The only reason it comes up as a larger power use is because it's essentially aggregating the power previously used by six or seven different apps. You seriously need to get some perspective on what constitutes "bad" battery life because you just keep posting "my battery suxorz" threads with less and less justification each time.
Hmm. I get pretty crappy battery life, but that battery life doesn't look too good. How much screen time? Your kernel should use about 25% of your battery. If you're on stock, that is.
Try clearing cache for GP services. Try using the phone for a day. See if that works. If not, then clear data.
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Hmm. I get pretty crappy battery life, but that battery life doesn't look too good. How much screen time? Your kernel should use about 25% of your battery. If you're on stock, that is.
Try clearing cache for GP services. Try using the phone for a day. See if that works. If not, then clear data.
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Here is my current stats also I'm completely stock (no root) and my herbal US currently 23%,how much higher(percentage wise) can it get before it will start causing orovkens?
For stock non rooted,that seems about right. That's what I get. Around 13 hours a day with 3 how screen time.
Actually, you are getting much better battery life than I do.
What are your settings? WiFi? LTE? Battery saving apps? Facebook? I can't for the life if me get decent battery life. As I said, the kernel uses up 25% of my battery.
EDIT: Also, I looked at my stats, and it seems that Google services wakes my device a lot too. So yeah, your stats are normal. :good:
Is this normal for me? I left my phone overnight and it goes to deep sleep with barely no screen time but there's major drain. What is the difference between screen on time and awake? Is it some background services running? I checked the wakelocks and nothing seems wrong.
Edit: Looks like something is keeping the kernel awake. Does anyone know what is msm_hsic_host?
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For stock non rooted,that seems about right. That's what I get. Around 13 hours a day with 3 how screen time.
Actually, you are getting much better battery life than I do.
What are your settings? WiFi? LTE? Battery saving apps? Facebook? I can't for the life if me get decent battery life. As I said, the kernel uses up 25% of my battery.
EDIT: Also, I looked at my stats, and it seems that Google services wakes my device a lot too. So yeah, your stats are normal. :good:
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I only use the power saver with cpu,and data connection enabled,auto sync disabled,I'm on wifi when at home,and 3g/lte enabled when im away from home all the time,auto-sync disabled (no need for it). NFC and all location services are on all the time (google's location service along with GPS),brightness set from 0%-20% (depending on lighting conditions). I also use the facebook app with syncing disabled.If you have any other questions or if I missed something feel free to ask.
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I only use the power saver with cpu,and data connection enabled,auto sync disabled,I'm on wifi when at home,and 3g/lte enabled when im away from home all the time,auto-sync disabled (no need for it). NFC and all location services are on all the time (google's location service along with GPS),brightness set from 0%-20% (depending on lighting conditions). I also use the facebook app with syncing disabled.If you have any other questions or if I missed something feel free to ask.
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That's exactly what I do! But I get really crappy signal and I'm on mible data quite a bit. What am I missing out on?
What percent of battery does your kernel use?
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That's exactly what I do! But I get really crappy signal and I'm on mible data quite a bit. What am I missing out on?
What percent of battery does your kernel use?
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it ranges from 20%-25%,once it got up to 28% but I was doing some heavy gaming,but after that it went down to 23% according to gsam's app sucker on the % power used screen. I'm rarely in a low signal area, but when I am i'm not in that area for long enough time for it to really impact my battery.
Rirere said:
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A 21-minute wakelock out of a 12 hour recording session. The sky must be falling.
Unless you shut down any Google app using Google Play Services, no, there's nothing to do. The only reason it comes up as a larger power use is because it's essentially aggregating the power previously used by six or seven different apps. You seriously need to get some perspective on what constitutes "bad" battery life because you just keep posting "my battery suxorz" threads with less and less justification each time.
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I'm going to have to agree here. I think people are expecting way to much out of these machines. Especially if your gaming and browsing a lot. Assuming your not crippling your smartphone functions by disabling data and such,This phone is only rated for about 3 or 4 hours screen on time max, especially while gaming. 12 hours of battery is perfectly fine. Especially for the use case of the OP.
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Since the update, I have definitely experienced worse battery life, especially overnight on standby/idle and also overall when I'm at home on WiFi in general, I have read a few posts about the November security patch causing worse battery on a lot of different phones so I don't know if it is because of that, I just hope either the December patch sorts it, or HMD make the battery optimisation better in the next update patch from them soon, has anyone else noticed worse battery performance since Oreo?
Doesn't seem any different to me ill be honest.
For me it even seems to be a little bit better than on Nougat.
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
No battery drain here, my opinion seems the same good as on nougat to
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Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
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Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
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Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
Sorry, I'm a Spanish speaker and I made a free translation. I attach you a screenshot. Maybe it can help you to find the menu. It's the first option (Option which is switched on).
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Asos2XZUuAPZnK1E20Hva6npEr2INw
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Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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Ok already using that, was looking for some sort of global switch.
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
MrBelter said:
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
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Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
mitchst2 said:
Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
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Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
dannejanne said:
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
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Battery on oreo is awesome, if you want less energy use during sleep use "naptime" from playstore.
MrBelter said:
Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
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Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
mitchst2 said:
Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
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If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
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If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
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The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
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The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
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Same here, I have most of my apps disabled apart from things that actually need to be running like PingID for work authentication / MS Authenticator / emails and 4 or 5 other things.
Try "data saver" if you have that option in your OREO ROM
Yes I did say DATA saver
Go to Settings - type "data saver" in the search box - switch it on
Works magic for me with a standard OREO ROM and nothing else.
since 8.1 update, battery draining has been worse