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Battery problem

Hi,
I just bought my Kaiser 4 days ago.
I am using the bluetooth adn an SDHC card.
My problem is, following: the batter goes every day empty! I unplugged from the charger 4hours (I was using the phone for one our), and the batter is on 34%.
Do you have the same problem or my batter is wrong?
tnx:
Adrián

Wow, really fast battery drain.
No, I dont have that fast drain.
Do you use data connection all the time? Wi-fi? 3G?
Backlight? Power off when device is not used ...
Worth to check.

I switched off the online data connection and the 3G..
I jut pulled off the SDHC card for testing the battery...
I hope it will help..
How often do you charge the battery, and how long do you use the phone per day?

It depends ... between 1 or 2 days ... and I usually charge when it is at 30% - 50%, during evening.
And I use 3G for browsing the internet for now and then randomly also MSN/Yahoo chat.
I suggest to hard-reset, and run your phone without any app installed.
Then see the battery drain.

big source of battery drain for me was the WiFi and the push email.

I have also noticed the battery drains pretty damn fast. Much faster than my wizard it would seem. I am slowly disabling things to see if I can find the source. Otherwise I am calling HTC and getting a new battery.

Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick

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Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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Nope - no bluetooth - no push email. Its very wierd.

sorry i was referring to the OP

I am using the Spb GPRS Monitor.... Does it need extra battery power?

Pooper said:
Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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I think that is not correct. Bluetooth hardly has any influence on the battery drain.
You can leave it on for ever.
But do a test yourselve.
1. Load the battery 100 %
2. Set bluetooth on or of and put your baby to sleep for 8 hours.
3. Check the battery situation in the morning, the first time you start using it. You should, in 8 hours, not have lost more that 4 till 5%.
That is with GPRS and no 3G or HSDPA. I did not test that, but...
You will see that a night with, or without, makes hardly any diiference.
But maybe I am wrong.
My personal experience is that using GPRS ( Phone=GSM only) is the most efficient. Especially if you have Messenger on the whole time.
Huib

Hi
When Bluetooth is on the device will not go into standby even if the screen appears dark as Bluetooth needs the OS to be alive to work, so if you have programs loaded that are using CPU cycles the battery will drain quickly as these programs will run continually.
Regards
Phil

The only thing that I am saying is that my phone, in 8 hours, with bluetooth on, uses max 4% of battery drain. With blutooth off I see no difference.
The phone is in sleeping mode, so people can call me. What else can I say?
So I cannot say that Bluetooth drains my battery faster. At least not visible to me.
I tested did a long time ago with several systems. the last one, before my Tytn II came was on blootooth its whole life. And now again I see the same at my little kaiser.
Huib
P.s. and then this.
I see as standbye the situation, that I only can switch it back on with sliding the keyboard or the power switch. If other keys do not react, is in't this standbye? The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum

herpi said:
The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum
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How rude!

Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.

darkilici said:
Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.
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Absolutely.
Huib

For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki

There is no I/R in Kaiser, and BT standby seems to draw very little. I leave mine all the time, I loose about 5% battery overnight. WiFi is a completely different story, it's a power PIG.

austinsnyc said:
For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki
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I still disagree.
When bluetooth is just ON and not connected to any device it hardly consums power. (IMHO)
Do a simple test and let it on for a night sleep with and without bluetooth.
When connected to a headset or whatever it of course consumes.
Pls tell me the difference.,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305518&highlight=battery
Huib

I have had my TyTN II since Tuesday the 25th - so only 2 days now. I pulled the phone out of the charger at 6:50am this morning. I have WiFi turned OFF (only use at night when I am surfing while watching TV). I have BlueTooth off. I do have BB Connect installed and running with 1 BES account and 3 BIS accounts. I was on the phone for maybe 5 total minutes so far this morning - and I surfed for like 10 minutes via EDGE on the way to work. I do have SPB Mobile Shell 1.5 installed, but from what I read it doesn't effect battery life. I have the unit set to shut the screen off after 2 minutes....and my LCD brightness is at like 70% or so.
With all this - as of 10:35am this morning - I am already down to 75% battery. At this rate, the phone will be dead before 5pm....! Not even a full day.
Man - I hope this gets better because I can't run my life with phone plugged in half the day just so it will last me!

Battery flat after one night

Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.

Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.

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to clean the diamond threads up...this is just getting silly

murks_muell said:
Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.
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Remember to close Data Connections from CommManager. And if you don't use WCDMA, switch band type to GSM (CommManager -> Settings -> Band -> Select your network type). Bad WCDMA-band signal eats battery like lion.

205_lacoste said:
Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.
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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?

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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?
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My post is in one of those useless complaint threads.
Your opening post seems more a complaint than a question. That is not useful. It would have made more sense to post what you have posted now: More information on what you have done so far, as well as ending the post with a question.
When you left the phone in the evening, how many bars were left (I mean the green coloured bars when you are in the energy settings). I have noticed that when there are only 2 bars left, the battery is already almost entirely flat.

How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.

How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.

Ok, you're right. I should have posted a question. Sorry for that!
The battery was fully charged. I just took it off the USB cord before going to bed.
3G is completely disabled on my phone.
Perhaps I should leave the device as I did yesterday evening and then watch whats happening. Perhaps an application pops up and drains the battery.
schaps: should one really enable all power management features?! e.g. "sd memory...", "async1..." and so on? They're all disabled on mine. Didn't read something about these options here yet.
Your answers are affirming what I thougt - it's not normal (even for the diamond) that the battery doesn't last a single night.

Hi
i am installed Beepes ROM
3G enabled - Batterie 100% after Night 86%
very nice

Yes 14% for one night would be nice. I have to wait for german roms to appear though...

I have read about some devices popping on when it is exactly 00:00. Not every night, but they've noticed once or so. No clue why it does this... maybe your phone did the same, and didn't go back to standby anymore.
Fully charged it should last 2 days using it for a few calls, sms and email functionality.

Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?

Is this maybe due to the google maps-bug? I've read that it doesn't close the gps port properly after use, and therefore the batt-troubles. To tired to find a link.. :/

I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...

murks_muell said:
I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...
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I didn't use the Google Maps either since the last hard reset. As the device wasn't hot all day long, I doubt if it was the GPS being on without me knowing.
However, I do expect it has something to do with one of the communication chips inside (GPS, WiFi, GSM, BT). Yesterday was the first night I have slept with the telephone NOT being in the flight mode. Normally I always use the flight mode so I can sleep without being disturbed. So possibly some 'bug' turns on one of the most draining comm chips for no reason at all.
Ofcourse I could disable the TFL3D, but then I will not know wheter it was really the solution. It might just as well be a one time thing...
@Murks-Muell...
Could this be punishment for me for the first few posts in this thread? Quite a coincidence!

205_lacoste said:
Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?
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you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).

Hornet331 said:
you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).
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Yep, GPRS auto attach is disabled. Even so, even if it was on, it should not be able to drain the battery that much in one night, especially when nog program is running! I also use the GSM band (not 3G). Any other night my phone uses virtually no energy.

Battery going flat overnight happened to me on ONE occasion.
After recharging and switching on I noticed that the screen never went off, and it seemed that the device had somehow unticked the 'turn off if device is unused for xx seconds' setting.
I figured my device had woken up for some reason (maybe an all day appointment with a reminder that triggered at midnight), then just sat there draining with the screen on.
Ticked the setting, no other changes and I easily get 2 or 3 days normal usage again...

I have had this issue the first night and this morning nearly again. When I wake up and I started Opera to visit a news site and I have read some articles the phone stopped. There was no low battery signal.

HD7 on Wifi - Is it really draining battery?

I know this was an issue an issue in the past for older phones. With the recent high tech phone/smartphones/battery, I am just wondering if this is still an issue today.
The reason I am asking, I experimented and let my HD7 stand still without using it with the wi-fi on then and wi-fi off for almost a day for both and appears that I have the same battery remaining. I wish I could see the percentage use but looking at the icon itself appears the same to me.
Any other thoughts?

So, a pretty nifty thing about this phone/OS, is when the screen turns off, it automatically kills the WiFi. When you turn it back on, it connects again.
This is how they're able to conserve battery life. The only downside, is if you were downloading say a big game, via WiFi, and the screen times out, WiFi dies and so does your download unfortunately. I was able to get the download to resume once, but usually not.

gasanpride said:
I know this was an issue an issue in the past for older phones. With the recent high tech phone/smartphones/battery, I am just wondering if this is still an issue today.
The reason I am asking, I experimented and let my HD7 stand still without using it with the wi-fi on then and wi-fi off for almost a day for both and appears that I have the same battery remaining. I wish I could see the percentage use but looking at the icon itself appears the same to me.
Any other thoughts?
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i think wifi doesnt consume any battery at all when its "just connected", only when a upload or download is going on , you might find the difference...

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i think wifi doesnt consume any battery at all when its "just connected", only when a upload or download is going on , you might find the difference...
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No, you are wrong. Even stay disconnect, the Wifi Module will keep searching for the new wifi spot and it kills the battery a lot. Than why i usually switch my Wifi Off (both my HD7 and my old HD2) when i am not going to use it

For the first time with a smartphone I've been leaving the Wifi on all the time, since it doesnt seem to really impact the battery that much. I'd only turn it off if I know I'm going to be a day or two out of Wifi coverage, just to save me having to grab a charger.
With my TD2, having Wifi on all the time not only shagged the battery but also slowed down the UI and made the phone hot as hell.

With Android I would have to keep my Wifi off because it would kill my battery but on my HD7 I leave my Wifi AND bluetooth on all day and I still get pretty good battery life. I only charge once at the end of the day.

the wireless radios, bluetooth & wifi, are so much more polished and refined as compared to the those in WM5/6. With WM, used to flash new radios posted on xda to acheive better reception/power consumption performance. WP7 does it right out of the box...
btw, you can set 'notify when new networks found' to off. If not needed by you, probably save some juice.
cheers
HD7 hw0002

aquanaut88 said:
the wireless radios, bluetooth & wifi, are so much more polished and refined as compared to the those in WM5/6. With WM, used to flash new radios posted on xda to acheive better reception/power consumption performance. WP7 does it right out of the box...
btw, you can set 'notify when new networks found' to off. If not needed by you, probably save some juice.
cheers
HD7 hw0002
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I believe the only thing that changes is that it doesn't tell you when it finds new networks, but it's still always on and searching. So it shouldn't make much of a battery difference on or off.
That being said, this is the first phone where I have left Wi-Fi on at all times and I get awesome battery life. Actually, my battery period has just been great. No complaints about how long the phone lasts. Much more than any Android or Windows Mobile phones I've used in the past.

[HOT!]Charging problems, false drain readings, dialer issue, battery life, SOLUTION

Hey guys,
I would like to make your situation easier, so you don't have to read like 1000s of forum threads to get information I'm giving you here. These are the issues I faced with my incredible s, and the so called solutions.
The device:
Stock EU htc incredible s/ htc droid incredible 2 on Gingerbread. NO software mods at all.
According to my knowledge the same applies to the htc desire s and the htc desire hd as well. Most of these problems come forward after updating to gingerbread. If you are still on froyo, I wouldn' recommend updating.
1st issue. High standby drain.
According to Currentwidget and battery monitor my incredible s doesn't have lower battery consumption in standby than 38Mah.
Solution:
Drain readings are corrupted, there is a bug involved.
In reality You only have around 5-6Mah drain in standby.
Proof.
Left phone in standby for 2 days without messing with it, ended up with 40% left.
So if you have a minimum of 40Mah drain for two days. (48hours x40Ma=1920Ma) The battery's capacity is no more than 1500Ma, so it's obvious that standby drain readings are corrupted.
IGNORE drain readings!
2nd issue: You take it off the charger and it's 95%
Some say that phone charges till 100% than shuts charging down till battery reaches 90%, than charging starts again.
Some say our Lithium battery cannot get charged till 100% which is normal. This is the reason our device doesn't show % in notification area.
Solution: Ignore battery monitor, use inbuilt battery charge indicator, and be happy.
If you want to test battery life, start test at 90% and your test won't be corrupted.
3rd issue: Dialer using too much battery.
This might to be a bug as well. Still to be confirmed. The dialer doesn't use that much of power it only gets stuck in built in battery use indicator giving false drain data.
Some say it doesn't stop using proximity sensor after being in a call, hence the big drain. Incredible s's proximity sensor is visible during call, check it in the dark, it blinks. After call it stays inactive. So the dialer using it 24/7 seems to be a false statement.
4th issue: Declining calls in pocket.
When taking or declining a call, you swipe vertically on the screen. If you have your phone in your pocket with the screen facing your body, you can easily take or decline some calls when pulling out. This is more likely if you have a pocket made of thin material.
Solution: Put your phone in your pocket with the battery cover facing your leg. Don't worry about bumping into like a table corner and smashing your screen. Our gorilla glass is almost indestructible. Using a pouch or cover does the trick as well.
Not sure why htc is so obsessed with the vertical answer procedure. With horizontal swipe we wouldn't have this problem and users have been complaining about this since the desire came out.
5th Issue: Wifi disconnects when signal low, but still would be fine under froyo.
Connection gets disconnected when signal is 86db or lower.
This is a gingerbread related problem, htc cannot do anything about it.
No solution just yet.
For those who complain about battery life, I am on gingerbread with loads of apps installed and with very heavy use 3hours of display, wifi, skype,internet browsing I can use the phone for 12 hours. With moderate use min 2 days.
Battery saving tipps:
-Don't let google and htc sync. It uses lot of data and battery resources.(I don't like my sensitive data to be copied on their servers anyway.) Sync with your pc regularly.
- If u use data for e-mail and weather sync, use Gsm only mode, you don't need that much of speed for those, turn WCDMA on if u need it for skype, etc. Hspda and 3g are big battery killers.
-Everything on manual sync. There is a sync all widget in sense to use. U can hit it anytime you want to.
-No live wallpaper
-Hotspot uses excessive amount of battery. Use it on charger only.
-Screen light to be turned down. Use Screen filter app nighttime.
-Turn wifi and mobile data off when not in use, so phone can sleep properly. (wifi timeout app)
-Turn off wireless network positioning.
-Keep bluetooth off when not in use.
-Select short screen timeout like 15s.
-Screen on time is the main culprit in appalling battery life. Use your watch to check time rather than turning the screen on.
-If u struggle to find 3g or Hspda for data or network itself, change provider, because no matter what phone u have, u will have this problem. Try to find spots in your flat with better signal for data. Searching for network uses a lot of battery.
-Try to charge your phone from 0% overnight with the phone off for a couple of times (8-12hrs)
-When gps is on it doesn't mean that it uses battery. If you see the sattelite icon blinking or just on, that's when it uses battery, a significant amount of battery.
-Consider buying the official extended battery available in US (droid incredible 2 2100Mah), coming to EU soon. I wouldn't recommend buying the unofficial ones just now.
Obviously if you apply some of these battery life will be better. If you apply all of them, battery life will be exceptional.
Hope I helped.
Have fun guys!

Hi!
Thanks you for this! I buy my incredible s a couple of days ago, upgraded instantley. I met most of these problems and now I am happyer with my phone knowing these.
Could you give link to the battery you wrote about???

i appreciate what you're trying to do - but if you are going to follow all those steps you might as well have bought a nokia 3210
"Use your watch to check time rather than turning the screen on"
i mean.... really??

As I said, you don't have to follow all the steps.
You might face conditions when you need every drop of your juice, so it's good to know how to get the most out of your battery, isn't it?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

IncredibleSSS said:
Hi!
Thanks you for this! I buy my incredible s a couple of days ago, upgraded instantley. I met most of these problems and now I am happyer with my phone knowing these.
Could you give link to the battery you wrote about???
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http://www.bargaincell.com/-p-509714.html
It's for the droid incredible 2, but thats equivalent to Incredible s.

Sorry if this seems sarcastic, but if you're gonna buy a smartphone and turn everything that makes it a smartphone off, then save yourself a few hundred quid and buy a Nokia 1100
I use mine to sync everything and anything I want, and don't worry about it, as long as it lasts the day, which it does, I'm happy.

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Sorry if this seems sarcastic, but if you're gonna buy a smartphone and turn everything that makes it a smartphone off, then save yourself a few hundred quid and buy a Nokia 1100
I use mine to sync everything and anything I want, and don't worry about it, as long as it lasts the day, which it does, I'm happy.
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you misinterpreted what the op said. He is just stating what you could do if you found yourself in a situation where you had to maximize battery usage. Obviously most of us are around an outlet or usb plug most of the day so that we can charge the phone often.
Thanks for the info OP. I just wish that current widget would show us the right info. Or some other app :/

Thanks for the info OP. My buddy has had endless problems with his Incredible. I'll Chrome to Phone this thread and send it to him!

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Thanks for the info OP. I just wish that current widget would show us the right info. Or some other app :/
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Its not the apps fault, the phone just reports wrong. So any other app should also fail.
@superman, perhaps a faulty app is causing the problems

Wifi issue should be resolved with the ota update.
However there is a network at my workplace which I couldn't connect to. I guess it is some kind of wifi repeater, it doesn't look like an actual wifi router. There is no cable connecting to it. Apparently I can connect but I get 0 signal next to it. Others can connect with full signal. Any idea?

RicarduZonta said:
Hey guys,
Our gorilla glass is almost indestructible.
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the glass on my phone broke on the third day falling face down from a a height of about 1 feet. so is it a gorilla glass or normal?

Not trying to be rude or anything but thought some other members would find what I have to say useful (I hope!)
Not everything you say is true.
RicarduZonta said:
Put your phone in your pocket with the battery cover facing your leg. Don't worry about bumping into like a table corner and smashing your screen. Our gorilla glass is almost indestructible. Using a pouch or cover does the trick as well.
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It is FAR from "almost" indestructible. Some people also say it's impossible to scratch it, yet mines been scratched (this AND nexus one) It's nice glass but indestructible? I think not, not even "almost"
Oh the guy above me also had his cracked!
RicarduZonta said:
Battery saving tipps:
-Don't let google and htc sync. It uses lot of data and battery resources.(I don't like my sensitive data to be copied on their servers anyway.) Sync with your pc regularly.
- If u use data for e-mail and weather sync, use Gsm only mode, you don't need that much of speed for those, turn WCDMA on if u need it for skype, etc. Hspda and 3g are big battery killers.
-No live wallpaper
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Live wall papers do eat your battery, but it's almost close to nothing. I've read that whatever uses more than 2% of your battery will be displayed in the "battery usage" I've used live wallpapers and it's never even shown that. (I think it also depends on what kind of wallpapers you use though.. let's say you had one that interacted with you) perhaps that might drain more battery.. but who turns on their phone to play with their wallpaper lmao
I've tested and disabling google sync barely makes a diff. I also don't think it uses a lot of data. I don't completely disagree with you though, manual sync is probably a better idea. On the other hand, I don't really think Hspda/3g are big battery killers, I notice that if you use the browser, the battery drops quick. Let's say you used "gsm" / "2G" and the webpage takes longer to load whereas 3G would have it loaded within seconds.. Which would waste more battery? I'm not 100% sure but I'd say just keep 3G and turn on 2G if you're not doing anything else with your phone. To my surprise, 2G is horribly slow.
RicarduZonta said:
-Screen light to be turned down. Use Screen filter app nighttime.
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Completely false. This is only a cover on top of your screen. It doesn't change the power being outputted to the screen. If you look at what RogerProdacter is making, you'll see that he's trying to modify the phones brightness output.
RicarduZonta said:
-Select short screen timeout like 15s.
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Disagree again. It's really up to user though, that's insane. I'd be pissed if my phone kept shutting off in 15s! What you can actually do is turn off the phone yourself or get something like Lock screen widget which instantly turns off your screen. Two reasons it's better - You don't have to worry about the timeout - you shut it off sooner than 15s.
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-Screen on time is the main culprit in appalling battery life. Use your watch to check time rather than turning the screen on.
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that's crazy.. You're saying that for us to check battery life/uptime we should use our watches? That's insane! That's a lot of effort to keep track JUST for your battery. Is it worth it? (I wouldn't think so.. but it's up to whoever uses it lol..)
RicarduZonta said:
-If u struggle to find 3g or Hspda for data or network itself, change provider, because no matter what phone u have, u will have this problem.
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I don't know what kind of world you live in, sounds way too good to be true. Just instantly change providers eh? Where I live.. that's not really easy to do. I'm sure most people getting cell phones would have enough common sense to pick something that works in their area anyway.

[Q] Phone impossible to turn on if battery is empty

When i run my phone empty (1%) and it turns itself off, when i put in on the charger it's very difficult to turn it on!
its very annoying! is there a trick to make the phone turn off with 2 or 3% battery left? that way you will be able to turn on the phone the minute you charge it.

tharealmb said:
When i run my phone empty (1%) and it turns itself off, when i put in on the charger it's very difficult to turn it on!
its very annoying! is there a trick to make the phone turn off with 2 or 3% battery left? that way you will be able to turn on the phone the minute you charge it.
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No I'd take it as a good thing tbh.

Dsteppa said:
No I'd take it as a good thing tbh.
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well it's not a good thing. When my battery runs out, and i put in on my car charger, it won't turn on at all, which means no acces to the phone for an hour. If it could just shut down automatically on 3% it could turn on and charge normal. so it's not a good thing for everyone tbh

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well it's not a good thing. When my battery runs out, and i put in on my car charger, it won't turn on at all, which means no acces to the phone for an hour. If it could just shut down automatically on 3% it could turn on and charge normal. so it's not a good thing for everyone tbh
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Yeah well, you know this, but yet you let your phone drain till that level, you're just asking for it. It's also bad for the battery to let it drain till that point. You can let it drain till that level but not too often.
For you it might not be a good thing, but such a system is actually better for the phone.

Dsteppa said:
Yeah well, you know this, but yet you let your phone drain till that level, you're just asking for it. It's also bad for the battery to let it drain till that point. You can let it drain till that level but not too often.
For you it might not be a good thing, but such a system is actually better for the phone.
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You are not really helping are you....
this happens to me daily, because the phone won't last an entire day. not if you use it as much as i do. And i use greenify, stamina and turn off wifi etc. so battery saving isn't the solution.
I was just asking if it is possible to make it turn of sooner (which would be better for the battery right?) then at 1%

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You are not really helping are you....
this happens to me daily, because the phone won't last an entire day. not if you use it as much as i do. And i use greenify, stamina and turn off wifi etc. so battery saving isn't the solution.
I was just asking if it is possible to make it turn of sooner (which would be better for the battery right?) then at 1%
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Why don't you turn it off the time you want
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^^lol seems so simple doesnt it....anyway maybe a tasker tool can shut your XZ off.

Well it is supposed to be not even good to let the battery drain fully. It says to almost empty by like 5% u should charge it. Os Ur own fault u let it drain until it is dead and then complain it won't turn on. Hmm of it is empty it makes sense doesn't it?
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I'll see if tasker can do it for me (i use AutomateIt right now, maybe it has a function)
and unlike many here, when i'm at work i don't constantly check my phone to see if the battery is allmost dead. And i don't have the luxury to always charge. And syncing email/whatsapp etc drains the battery pretty quickly in standby mode

tharealmb said:
I'll see if tasker can do it for me (i use AutomateIt right now, maybe it has a function)
and unlike many here, when i'm at work i don't constantly check my phone to see if the battery is allmost dead. And i don't have the luxury to always charge. And syncing email/whatsapp etc drains the battery pretty quickly in standby mode
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Not one to stir an argument, however you're saying you don't constantly check your phone whilst at work. Why do you need it to constantly sync stuff? The way I see it (And forgive me if I'm getting ahead of myself) if you aren't checking your phone, why do you need it to sync so much? The easy answer is to not have it sync as often.
Whilst in principal I understand your question, I just don't understand why you have it syncing so often if you aren't checking it that often? My XZ is checked regularly and I have atleast 30% battery 15-16 hours after unplugging from overnight charge. I sync every 6 hours on weather, 30 minutes on Twitter, manual for Facebook, Gmail every 15 minutes I think, WiFi is off when not in range and I do internet surfing/calls/texts/whatsapp etc at will.
Whilst I'm not a prolific battery user, I certainly use the phone more than average (based on people's own phone usage claims).
If you aren't checking your phone (which you would be seeing the battery anyway) why not change to manual syncing as it'll only connect when you actually have chance to check the phone....
As for the answer to your conundrum, I agree it would be better to have it shut down sooner I.e before its critical; you're right about how long a drained battery seems to take to have enough juice to turn it on.
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Yeah Ur phone should easily last a whole day if u don't check all the time and I agree u don't need to have everything syncing constantly. Like every hour maybe for Ur emails? I don't know I run 5 emails and they sync every hour. Besides Gmail that does it automatically. And I have kik and whatsapps and still get easily a day out of it. If u don't check Ur phone often then I do not know how Ur battery can even drain that fast and why Ur stuff has to sync constantly. I am puzzled.
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