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Turn off gps possible?

Hi Guys
i've heard that you can turn off the gps which would imply its permantley on, is this true? If so, any one know how to turn it off as I can't find what is probably an obvious menu/option.
I need to turn it off as i am only getting six hours of idle on any charge of my phone - have an extended batt on order and it is using push email (constantly connected) which is a must for me.
No real complaints apart from battery (which was expected and being sorted) and seems pretty good so far.
Oh, anyone else ditch touchflo? Thought it was rubbish myself

If GPS was able to be turned off, how much battery might it save? The difference could be transforming!

I personally don't think that GPS would be permanently turned on.
Maybe the interface, which "looks" if a demand on GPS data exists...
IF the GPS would be permanently turned on, the battery drain would
be very high, and the device would get assumingly very hot.

mine eats battery more than a fat bird eats bugers and mcdonalds and yes, its very hot as well .. although, this could be coz its pretty much always plugged in.... ?

GPS is only 'on' when it is called for by any external program. If it were on all the time the phone would be flat in about two hours regardless what you did with it.

TML1504 said:
I personally don't think that GPS would be permanently turned on.
Maybe the interface, which "looks" if a demand on GPS data exists...
IF the GPS would be permanently turned on, the battery drain would
be very high, and the device would get assumingly very hot.
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ericsson68 said:
GPS is only 'on' when it is called for by any external program. If it were on all the time the phone would be flat in about two hours regardless what you did with it.
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do you KNOW that or are you assuming that?
I know I have seen programs that turn it off just as usual, the search on here has let me down. If this was definetly the case, then why would programs like these be written?

Monty Burns said:
mine eats battery more than a fat bird eats bugers and mcdonalds and yes, its very hot as well .. although, this could be coz its pretty much always plugged in.... ?
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Yes, it is a known fact that the Diamond heats up when you are charging it (to levels some may find concerning) but HTC have dismissed this as 'normal operation'.

If it was on all the time you would have an instant fix on where you are straight away .
If it was on all the time your battery would last as said around two hours
I think it is in standby mode if this is what you mean but does need software activation to enable it on as in transmit and receive .
Not sure if turning off standby mode would be a good idea but if you google for the chipset name and have a read up it will let you know these kind of things

Are you sure you guys are not getting confused with GPRS, not GPS?
That can drain battery life, and by disabling GPRS Auto Attach using Advance Config tool, can extend your battery by around 40%!

Abs. said:
Are you sure you guys are not getting confused with GPRS, not GPS?
That can drain battery life, and by disabling GPRS Auto Attach using Advance Config tool, can extend your battery by around 40%!
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if I do this, then im guessing my push email wont work? .... and maybe i am?

Battery life suck! so the tilt features is useless...

I think if the battery life is so small, all the spacial functions like WiFi, GPS, video, movies are useless for example for a person that are not carrying an extra battery like me....
I have turned off wifi, 3g and so on to preserve mu battery...
So every time I want to wifi-ing, or GPS-ing like 20-30min I'm scared that I will got in the middle of the day with battery down and phone off....
So like that I'm avoiding to use all the nice features of the Tilt
What you think about it?

I think you're bored with killing kittens in the dark.

khaytsus said:
I think you're bored with killing kittens in the dark.
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I'm not bored, I have it for a month, and I realized it!

Hi There...
You can do what I do... Whenever I use the GPS, I have it plugged in my car charger (I have one of those USB adaptor things and just use a retractable data cable).. I bought my Tilt used, had it well over a year now, and still have the original battery.. I typicalyl get 2 to 3 days use before I have to recharge... and I use Wifi quite a bit (my carriers internet services are great for TomTom and such.. but too slow for streaming or anything that needs broadband)... I dont; charge it though unless it is udner 5% usually.. if it is close, I will play some graphic intensive games liek Worms World Party for a while to get the battery down where I like to charge it at... When in the car, I always use the charger because I don;t think it really charges it while TomTom is running.. Usually I still have WiFi on.. when that kicks off the Wireless GPRS interent kicks in... and then with the GPS chip... and got the screen on BRIGHT when it is in the car... It uses the power at about the same rate I am using it (atleast thats my logic) The battery always seems to be at about hte same point it was when I first plugged it in give or take a few perfect if I have been using it for hours on a road trip...

Teej53214 said:
Hi There...
You can do what I do... Whenever I use the GPS, I have it plugged in my car charger (I have one of those USB adaptor things and just use a retractable data cable).. I bought my Tilt used, had it well over a year now, and still have the original battery.. I typicalyl get 2 to 3 days use before I have to recharge... and I use Wifi quite a bit (my carriers internet services are great for TomTom and such.. but too slow for streaming or anything that needs broadband)... I dont; charge it though unless it is udner 5% usually.. if it is close, I will play some graphic intensive games liek Worms World Party for a while to get the battery down where I like to charge it at... When in the car, I always use the charger because I don;t think it really charges it while TomTom is running.. Usually I still have WiFi on.. when that kicks off the Wireless GPRS interent kicks in... and then with the GPS chip... and got the screen on BRIGHT when it is in the car... It uses the power at about the same rate I am using it (atleast thats my logic) The battery always seems to be at about hte same point it was when I first plugged it in give or take a few perfect if I have been using it for hours on a road trip...
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Good, but I walk in mountains w/o a car , or wifi-ing on the street so..

What radio are you using? You may need to change to a less energy-intensive radio to preserve battery life. Keep the screen only as bright as you need it, as a really bright screen will drain the battery. Also, put the phone on lock and then turn it off to keep it from coming back on when you're not using it. I'm easily able to get a day or two from my battery by doing all of this, and I use the phone a lot.

Gibbs said:
What radio are you using? You may need to change to a less energy-intensive radio to preserve battery life. Keep the screen only as bright as you need it, as a really bright screen will drain the battery. Also, put the phone on lock and then turn it off to keep it from coming back on when you're not using it. I'm easily able to get a day or two from my battery by doing all of this, and I use the phone a lot.
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I'm with:
PC ultimate v 11
radio 1.65.16.25
when I'm with turn off mode (push the off button to turn off monitor) it can last 3-4 days, but when I use it, like, call-5min or music-5min or gps-10min it goes down like 15% and simething like this (beem a bicture to PC - down 3-4%, and so on)...

Check your battery, ROM version,...
With heavy use I can last a whole day (3G connected all the time, maybe 30mins of browsing, 1-2 calls, 3 hours of music, 30mins GPS), with light use 2-3 days.

Maybe try flashing a different radio, to see if a different one improves your battery life. I recently went to a new ROM, and have tried five different radios to find the one that gives me great reception, but doesn't drain my battery in a few hours. Three of the radios drained my battery so fast that I was running out of power in the middle of the day. Another radio had poor reception. My current radio seems to be giving me good reception without draining the battery so quickly. It all depends on what works for your ROM, device and location, so it's trial and error until you find what works best for you.

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Maybe try flashing a different radio, to see if a different one improves your battery life. I recently went to a new ROM, and have tried five different radios to find the one that gives me great reception, but doesn't drain my battery in a few hours. Three of the radios drained my battery so fast that I was running out of power in the middle of the day. Another radio had poor reception. My current radio seems to be giving me good reception without draining the battery so quickly. It all depends on what works for your ROM, device and location, so it's trial and error until you find what works best for you.
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I have start a battery logging so after wile using/sleep time I can post a mA data to suggest me if it is ok

here you can see my battery log:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11729584/Battery-log
I used the phone like 2min-video klip, then suspend 10min, then 5min-gpd and 5min-wifi and the result is ~17% down
is it normal?

Redo the same, but starting with a fully charged battery, and run the battery down completely until the phone turns off. It's the only way of judging how your battery performs, not just drain it a few percent as it means nothing at all. Percentage is not of absolute precision, especially if you rarely do full cycles to your battery, it's common to have the meter go down fast the first bit, then stay at 10 or 20% for several hours. Posting the same kind of log would be good.
Other than that, current consumption looks normal.

it's all about tradeoffs i suppose. i don't know of any other device of the same size that does all the things the kaiser does, that has a significantly improved/better battery life. the GPS my nokia 6210 navigator which i use as a backup phone/GPS does last slightly longer, but not all that much.
if you need something that lasts a whole day or whatever on battery, then the best bet apart from getting another battery is probably a dedicated device for that particular activity (GPS unit/netbook/whatever). but then it may not do some of the other things.

newbie question about android

i just got my nexus, digged around, updated to cyanogen, rooted.
i have a problem that on my old touch hd i didnt have:
the data connection is always on?? doesnt android know to close it when not in use so it will save battery charge?
thank you

on the nexus one it works a little different, it shows the 3G icon but that does not necessarily mean its doing anything. only when you see the two up/down arrows lighting up and flashing is there 3G data activity going on.

i guessed that, but, it keeps the data connection open? even without transfer it still uses power, doesn't it?

it is always connected in a way, all it does is ping the cell tower every 10 minutes to have an established point on reference. this by its self does not draw to much from the battery as you would expect, only when data is requested does the radio kick in to full power, so no worries that it will drain your battery. The thing that will kill your battery the fastest is that beautiful screen. try to bump it to 60% thats i nice brightness but yet saves on battery. also keep in mind the battery needs to go through 2 or 3 battery charge cycles for you to get the most out of your battery life.
average real world battery life should get you about a day and a half of bettery.

cobrax2 said:
i guessed that, but, it keeps the data connection open? even without transfer it still uses power, doesn't it?
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This is how all modern smartphones work nowadays. They all keep the connections "on" 100% of the time.
It's funny because I asked this question a few years ago
The answer I got was that it actually uses MORE battery to turn the connection on and off all the time manually, than to just let it sit idle.
Also, the N1 is useless without a data connection

i see. then ill just let it open and search for an app that will tell me which app uses the most bandwidth. i only found some that tell me the total usage, not by application...

[HOT!]Charging problems, false drain readings, dialer issue, battery life, SOLUTION

Hey guys,
I would like to make your situation easier, so you don't have to read like 1000s of forum threads to get information I'm giving you here. These are the issues I faced with my incredible s, and the so called solutions.
The device:
Stock EU htc incredible s/ htc droid incredible 2 on Gingerbread. NO software mods at all.
According to my knowledge the same applies to the htc desire s and the htc desire hd as well. Most of these problems come forward after updating to gingerbread. If you are still on froyo, I wouldn' recommend updating.
1st issue. High standby drain.
According to Currentwidget and battery monitor my incredible s doesn't have lower battery consumption in standby than 38Mah.
Solution:
Drain readings are corrupted, there is a bug involved.
In reality You only have around 5-6Mah drain in standby.
Proof.
Left phone in standby for 2 days without messing with it, ended up with 40% left.
So if you have a minimum of 40Mah drain for two days. (48hours x40Ma=1920Ma) The battery's capacity is no more than 1500Ma, so it's obvious that standby drain readings are corrupted.
IGNORE drain readings!
2nd issue: You take it off the charger and it's 95%
Some say that phone charges till 100% than shuts charging down till battery reaches 90%, than charging starts again.
Some say our Lithium battery cannot get charged till 100% which is normal. This is the reason our device doesn't show % in notification area.
Solution: Ignore battery monitor, use inbuilt battery charge indicator, and be happy.
If you want to test battery life, start test at 90% and your test won't be corrupted.
3rd issue: Dialer using too much battery.
This might to be a bug as well. Still to be confirmed. The dialer doesn't use that much of power it only gets stuck in built in battery use indicator giving false drain data.
Some say it doesn't stop using proximity sensor after being in a call, hence the big drain. Incredible s's proximity sensor is visible during call, check it in the dark, it blinks. After call it stays inactive. So the dialer using it 24/7 seems to be a false statement.
4th issue: Declining calls in pocket.
When taking or declining a call, you swipe vertically on the screen. If you have your phone in your pocket with the screen facing your body, you can easily take or decline some calls when pulling out. This is more likely if you have a pocket made of thin material.
Solution: Put your phone in your pocket with the battery cover facing your leg. Don't worry about bumping into like a table corner and smashing your screen. Our gorilla glass is almost indestructible. Using a pouch or cover does the trick as well.
Not sure why htc is so obsessed with the vertical answer procedure. With horizontal swipe we wouldn't have this problem and users have been complaining about this since the desire came out.
5th Issue: Wifi disconnects when signal low, but still would be fine under froyo.
Connection gets disconnected when signal is 86db or lower.
This is a gingerbread related problem, htc cannot do anything about it.
No solution just yet.
For those who complain about battery life, I am on gingerbread with loads of apps installed and with very heavy use 3hours of display, wifi, skype,internet browsing I can use the phone for 12 hours. With moderate use min 2 days.
Battery saving tipps:
-Don't let google and htc sync. It uses lot of data and battery resources.(I don't like my sensitive data to be copied on their servers anyway.) Sync with your pc regularly.
- If u use data for e-mail and weather sync, use Gsm only mode, you don't need that much of speed for those, turn WCDMA on if u need it for skype, etc. Hspda and 3g are big battery killers.
-Everything on manual sync. There is a sync all widget in sense to use. U can hit it anytime you want to.
-No live wallpaper
-Hotspot uses excessive amount of battery. Use it on charger only.
-Screen light to be turned down. Use Screen filter app nighttime.
-Turn wifi and mobile data off when not in use, so phone can sleep properly. (wifi timeout app)
-Turn off wireless network positioning.
-Keep bluetooth off when not in use.
-Select short screen timeout like 15s.
-Screen on time is the main culprit in appalling battery life. Use your watch to check time rather than turning the screen on.
-If u struggle to find 3g or Hspda for data or network itself, change provider, because no matter what phone u have, u will have this problem. Try to find spots in your flat with better signal for data. Searching for network uses a lot of battery.
-Try to charge your phone from 0% overnight with the phone off for a couple of times (8-12hrs)
-When gps is on it doesn't mean that it uses battery. If you see the sattelite icon blinking or just on, that's when it uses battery, a significant amount of battery.
-Consider buying the official extended battery available in US (droid incredible 2 2100Mah), coming to EU soon. I wouldn't recommend buying the unofficial ones just now.
Obviously if you apply some of these battery life will be better. If you apply all of them, battery life will be exceptional.
Hope I helped.
Have fun guys!

Hi!
Thanks you for this! I buy my incredible s a couple of days ago, upgraded instantley. I met most of these problems and now I am happyer with my phone knowing these.
Could you give link to the battery you wrote about???

i appreciate what you're trying to do - but if you are going to follow all those steps you might as well have bought a nokia 3210
"Use your watch to check time rather than turning the screen on"
i mean.... really??

As I said, you don't have to follow all the steps.
You might face conditions when you need every drop of your juice, so it's good to know how to get the most out of your battery, isn't it?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

IncredibleSSS said:
Hi!
Thanks you for this! I buy my incredible s a couple of days ago, upgraded instantley. I met most of these problems and now I am happyer with my phone knowing these.
Could you give link to the battery you wrote about???
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http://www.bargaincell.com/-p-509714.html
It's for the droid incredible 2, but thats equivalent to Incredible s.

Sorry if this seems sarcastic, but if you're gonna buy a smartphone and turn everything that makes it a smartphone off, then save yourself a few hundred quid and buy a Nokia 1100
I use mine to sync everything and anything I want, and don't worry about it, as long as it lasts the day, which it does, I'm happy.

Clivectmob said:
Sorry if this seems sarcastic, but if you're gonna buy a smartphone and turn everything that makes it a smartphone off, then save yourself a few hundred quid and buy a Nokia 1100
I use mine to sync everything and anything I want, and don't worry about it, as long as it lasts the day, which it does, I'm happy.
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you misinterpreted what the op said. He is just stating what you could do if you found yourself in a situation where you had to maximize battery usage. Obviously most of us are around an outlet or usb plug most of the day so that we can charge the phone often.
Thanks for the info OP. I just wish that current widget would show us the right info. Or some other app :/

Thanks for the info OP. My buddy has had endless problems with his Incredible. I'll Chrome to Phone this thread and send it to him!

sdxda said:
Thanks for the info OP. I just wish that current widget would show us the right info. Or some other app :/
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Its not the apps fault, the phone just reports wrong. So any other app should also fail.
@superman, perhaps a faulty app is causing the problems

Wifi issue should be resolved with the ota update.
However there is a network at my workplace which I couldn't connect to. I guess it is some kind of wifi repeater, it doesn't look like an actual wifi router. There is no cable connecting to it. Apparently I can connect but I get 0 signal next to it. Others can connect with full signal. Any idea?

RicarduZonta said:
Hey guys,
Our gorilla glass is almost indestructible.
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the glass on my phone broke on the third day falling face down from a a height of about 1 feet. so is it a gorilla glass or normal?

Not trying to be rude or anything but thought some other members would find what I have to say useful (I hope!)
Not everything you say is true.
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Put your phone in your pocket with the battery cover facing your leg. Don't worry about bumping into like a table corner and smashing your screen. Our gorilla glass is almost indestructible. Using a pouch or cover does the trick as well.
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It is FAR from "almost" indestructible. Some people also say it's impossible to scratch it, yet mines been scratched (this AND nexus one) It's nice glass but indestructible? I think not, not even "almost"
Oh the guy above me also had his cracked!
RicarduZonta said:
Battery saving tipps:
-Don't let google and htc sync. It uses lot of data and battery resources.(I don't like my sensitive data to be copied on their servers anyway.) Sync with your pc regularly.
- If u use data for e-mail and weather sync, use Gsm only mode, you don't need that much of speed for those, turn WCDMA on if u need it for skype, etc. Hspda and 3g are big battery killers.
-No live wallpaper
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Live wall papers do eat your battery, but it's almost close to nothing. I've read that whatever uses more than 2% of your battery will be displayed in the "battery usage" I've used live wallpapers and it's never even shown that. (I think it also depends on what kind of wallpapers you use though.. let's say you had one that interacted with you) perhaps that might drain more battery.. but who turns on their phone to play with their wallpaper lmao
I've tested and disabling google sync barely makes a diff. I also don't think it uses a lot of data. I don't completely disagree with you though, manual sync is probably a better idea. On the other hand, I don't really think Hspda/3g are big battery killers, I notice that if you use the browser, the battery drops quick. Let's say you used "gsm" / "2G" and the webpage takes longer to load whereas 3G would have it loaded within seconds.. Which would waste more battery? I'm not 100% sure but I'd say just keep 3G and turn on 2G if you're not doing anything else with your phone. To my surprise, 2G is horribly slow.
RicarduZonta said:
-Screen light to be turned down. Use Screen filter app nighttime.
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Completely false. This is only a cover on top of your screen. It doesn't change the power being outputted to the screen. If you look at what RogerProdacter is making, you'll see that he's trying to modify the phones brightness output.
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-Select short screen timeout like 15s.
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Disagree again. It's really up to user though, that's insane. I'd be pissed if my phone kept shutting off in 15s! What you can actually do is turn off the phone yourself or get something like Lock screen widget which instantly turns off your screen. Two reasons it's better - You don't have to worry about the timeout - you shut it off sooner than 15s.
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-Screen on time is the main culprit in appalling battery life. Use your watch to check time rather than turning the screen on.
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that's crazy.. You're saying that for us to check battery life/uptime we should use our watches? That's insane! That's a lot of effort to keep track JUST for your battery. Is it worth it? (I wouldn't think so.. but it's up to whoever uses it lol..)
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-If u struggle to find 3g or Hspda for data or network itself, change provider, because no matter what phone u have, u will have this problem.
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I don't know what kind of world you live in, sounds way too good to be true. Just instantly change providers eh? Where I live.. that's not really easy to do. I'm sure most people getting cell phones would have enough common sense to pick something that works in their area anyway.

Getting the most out of your battery

Ok going to try and start a conversation here to get feedback from everyone on what you guys do to get the most out of your battery. I see alot of people always asking what kernal is best for battery life and some people seem to have horrible battery life and some have exceptional battery life. I personally get decent battery life. Nothing super amazing but that comes down to the way I use my phone.
My current battery I'm using - Andida 2000mah battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/280843217453...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_4497wt_1396
I also have - GTMax 3500mah battery
http://www.amazon.ca/GTMax-Extended-Battery-3500mAh-Microfiber/dp/B006VAP102/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_4
The Andida gives me generally a extra 2-3 hours more over the stock. I had to cycle the battery 4 times before I started seeing any real improvements. If I take these off the charger at 6:30am I can ussually make it to around 10pm without needing to charge.
The GTMax get me through a day (630am - midnight) with around 50% left.
Now keep in mind this is based on my usage habits, and when I'm at work my signal is horrible so it drains a bit harder for the 8 hours I'm at work.
I don't have LTE where I live or work, I do get LTE in areas close by but on a regular day I don't see it. With the bad signal at work I've started to switch to gsm only mode (phone was constantly switching from Edge to 3g/4g and wouldn't provide a stable connection most of the time). This seems to have helped my battery at work.
When I flash a new rom I always give it at least 2 good full battery cycles before judging the battery life on it.
Ok onto some apps. My first foray into getting better battery life started with wanting to control my data. I used Juice Defender to that but I found that having to wait for the data to turn back on was at some times taking way to long and even sometimes I would have to reboot to get it back. Tried a few others and had similar experiences. When it works its nice and I did see some gain from it but at the same time it seemed bloated and slow and I decided I like having my data on and readily available quickly. After some searching I found an awesome app...
Better Battery Stats
Play Store link - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
XDA Forum link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
I highly recommend reading up on this app and trying it out. If your seeing a big drain on you battery while the screen is off, it's probably because there is something that is keeping it from going into a deep sleep mode. This won't save you any battery just by installing it but with a little work it can make a pretty good difference.
Ok now this is where I'm looking for suggestions, are there apps that you find specifically run smoother or are lighter than their stock counterparts or rival apps that put less of a strain on the battery?
Instead of the stock messaging app I run Pansi SMS. It gives me a few extra options but I never really used the stock mms on ICS so I can only compare it to Handcent SMS and I think it is definitely lighter and a lil bit more battery friendly. It's not a huge difference but I try and squeeze everything I can w/o giving up functionality.
For a launcher I'm running apex right now, but for a lightweight launcher I'd recommend FTL. Runs really nice and smooth, nothing fancy about it, just fast and light.
Some apps sometimes can just be poorly coded and thus have a bad effect on battery life. Alot of people seem to feel the Facebook app is one such app that suffers from that. The app that gets the most recommendations as a replacement and being a bit easier on the battery is Friendcaster. I tend to agree with that, and would recommend trying it out.
I'd really like to hear about what everyone else does to try and squeeze out the most of their battery. Theres more stuff that I do, such as reducing the amount of things that are synced to only the stuff I actually want, default settings just sync everything and I don't feel I need to sync my contacts on a daily basis as I rarely change them around. So share your tips, experiences good and bad with apps in regards to your battery, and if theres enough feedback I'll try and re-organize this into a bit better structure.

I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.

iStatiK said:
I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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Right here, this is the key. I have data off all the time. I only turn it on when I need to look something up or browse. IMO auto updates really kill the battery and aren't worth leaving your data on all the time. I'm on wifi a lot as well. Currently I'm on DarkRaider and I'm ending the day with around 30-40%, great improvement over stock.

It seems that with every new handset that comes out this is one of the hottest topics but the parameters all always the same with regard to battery life.
The 3 biggest things that drain our batteries are Display Usage, Data Connection & Radio Cell Connection. These are listed in order of current used. Of the 3 we can have some control over the 1st 2. Lower screen brightness and disconnect data when not needed and use wifi when possible. While wifi does use a good amount of current it's not as much as mobile data. The last one, Radio Cell Connection, we have very little control over. It's also the reason we see people having great differences in battery life. The further the phone is from the tower it's connected to the more juice it needs to make a good connection. So other than leaving the phone in airplane mode or planning your life around where towers are, neither of which are very practical, there is not much we can do there.
To get the best all around life from Li-ion batteries do not fully discharge them very often and also don't keep them plugged in after they're fully charged. It's best to recharge them when they get down to 20-30% and unplug them after they're charged. They also don't need to be fully charged every time, they have no memory. If your on the go and can only leave it plugged in for a short period of time that's fine. Also if you have more than one battery and your not going to use the 2nd one for a while don't store it at full charge. drop it down to 50-60% before pulling it out.
I'll update this post when I get home tonight with more info and links. Hope it helps.

slapshot30 said:
Right here, this is the key. I have data off all the time. I only turn it on when I need to look something up or browse. IMO auto updates really kill the battery and aren't worth leaving your data on all the time. I'm on wifi a lot as well. Currently I'm on DarkRaider and I'm ending the day with around 30-40%, great improvement over stock.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?

iStatiK said:
I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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With my 3500mah battery I don't really worry about turning anything off. That thing is great. Made a bumper case for it but I miss having a real case on it so I picked up the 2000mah andida battery so I could get a few more hours on some days. If someone ever made a real case for those big batteries i'd use it all the time.

citsong said:
I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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Try 2x Battery from the store. It will shut off data as soon as the the phone sleeps, it reconnects at screen on after unlock almost instantly. It also allows you to white list apps, like Pandora. The free version only allows 1 app though.

citsong said:
I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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The DarkRaider ROM I am using has a nice extended settings menu in the notification bar with a data toggle. I also have a nice widget from switchpro widgets where I can customize what kinds of things I want to be able to toggle from my homescreen. Currently I have data/wifi/vibrate-silent/gps. Doesn't take long at all when I toggle the data on/off, it's pretty much instant.

citsong said:
I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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I use the 2X Battery app. When the phone goes to sleep, the app turns off the data radio. I can still get calls and text messages. I don't have a need for push notification of e-mail, etc., so this saves me some battery usage. Of course, if e-mail and other app notifications are important, this app will help only if you are willing to wait until you wake up the phone.

Here's what I do. I'm on the stock HTC battery.
I SetCPU screen off to 192/192 ondemand, in call to 810/192 ondemand, and regular use to 810/192 ondemand.
I listen to about 2 hours of music a day, have 3 GMail accounts on autosync, a Facebook account on hourly autosync and HTC Weather on hourly sync. Automatic brightness. Roughly 1.5 hours of cumulative web-browsing, no apps/games used.
I never use WiFi and I don't live in an LTE area.
I typically end the day (19-21 hours unplugged) with ~40% remaining.

Now I am not sure if living in area with LTE is a bless or curse....
I would unplug around 7am everyday, and by the time I get home (around 6pm) I would always in red mode (meaning, it is either 14% or under). Using the Holics-0.6 with the kernel that came with it, battery seems to die fast. Even when I am on the stock ICS before this, seems LTE would just bleed this baby to death....
Reading other comments, might as well start looking for a bigger battery....

It actually seems like I'm getting better battery since LTE came to my town. I'm on dark raider using kozmick's rc1 kernel and it's even better now. Try turning off vibration feedback...I think it's located in the sounds menu in settings. You can also try using automatic brightness or even just setting it to stay at 50% or lower. The screen is a battery hog. There's a stickied thread somewhere on here that has other things you can try too.
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Really is a shame that we have to disable or ease everything back so much to get through the day on a battery. Anyhow, I have a Velocity (which comes out of the box with the processor running at 1500) on Dark Raider. Therefore I use SetCPU to throttle the beast back, depending upon the circumstances. It only is allowed to run at 1500 when on charge and down to 400 when battery below 25 percent. I also use 2X Battery to take care of the netowrk and Wi-Fi and have purchased the andida battery for extended life. I also have JD installed, however it is rarely used - reason is that I am in agreeance with "citsong" that it takes too long to establish connections, even causing me general connection issues from time to time. So for around $25 AUD you can get through the day on a battery with moderate use and reasonable performance. I have not tried the extended battery pack, though I will probably get one of those as well...not sure which are the best???

I personally don't like the vibrate response thing, so I turn that off right out of the box, also, auto brightness is another that I set. When I go in the battery tab to see what is bleeding it to death, and most of it would be the display....
Though, vivid seem to have a smaller battery compared to other phones of similar functions and/or size, so that might be the reason I am not really seeing a very good battery life?

deathnai said:
I personally don't like the vibrate response thing, so I turn that off right out of the box, also, auto brightness is another that I set. When I go in the battery tab to see what is bleeding it to death, and most of it would be the display....
Though, vivid seem to have a smaller battery compared to other phones of similar functions and/or size, so that might be the reason I am not really seeing a very good battery life?
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Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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rignfool said:
Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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My solution was to get a larger battery (2100mAh, the largest one with stock format) and using juice defender to control my Data Connection. I am getting about 60% more using time on a normal usage whan before!

I actually have both Motorola Atrix 2 and HTC Vivid. However, my Atrix 2 would last about two days between charges, which is kind of weird. I have my personal account and company account on that phone (personal is to activate the google stuff), so it eats up data twice as fast, yet it is almost twice as long battery life.
And to update a little bit from my post before, it seems I am getting better battery life now, after 4-5 days of flashing the new ROM, let's hope it is true....or I am just going to go hunt for a bigger battery
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rignfool said:
Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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Actually, the Samsung Galaxy Note is way bigger than either Atrix or Vivid, so with a bigger body, I would assume that a bigger battery is possible. But if you look at current phones, I rarely see batteries that are above, say, 1800mAh, let alone 2000mAh and above, stock of course.

ideaLduK said:
My solution was to get a larger battery (2100mAh, the largest one with stock format) and using juice defender to control my Data Connection. I am getting about 60% more using time on a normal usage whan before!
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Could you share the details on the battery?

Andida batteies are easily found on Ebay, but beware of Chinese fakes!! I got mine from a seller in Canada, all good.

I get good battery life by turning off data while I'm working . 70% with 8hrs unplugged
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