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[Q] Just Bought a Used Tab, Where To Start?

My wife decided that she wanted a Galaxy Tab and eventually found one at a decent price. It showed up today and is in great condition and appears to be running a stock ROM. I have a few questions about it and I figured I could get some help here.
It is a CDMA Tab that was subsidized by U.S. Cellular. We don't have that provider locally and I was wondering if it would be compatible with another carrier. My wife doesn't care if it isn't though, she only wanted it for WiFi around the house.
Also, is there any major differences with the U.S. Cellular version that I should know about going in before I drop a ROM on it? And for that matter can anyone recommend a ROM? Thanks in advance for the help.
More info (If you need it):
Hardware Version: SCH-I800.0.3
Baseband: S:I800.0.3.DJ29

Mate, try the developement section... The roms are there, incuding the gingerbread update, you should find all the info you need there but please read the threads...
Read, read and if you can't find any info, read some more then ask questions...
You'll get a lot more help if you show you have read up a bit... Check out the overcome thread for his guide to flashing, there's also some others around, generally for gingerbread, that are helpful...
Cheers...

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Okay, then, I have a newbie question: can someone explain exactly what "S-Off" means?

Take S-Off for Security Off. With S-Off you can directly write to kernel, bootladers and radio, while S-On devices would need a second device (a PC) to write to those areas. Its like a protection mechanism for us not to brick our phones (at least not as easy).
There is plenty of explanations at our forums if you want t get into technical details or just want another explanation. Just try using the search button in the right top corner of XDA pages, you will be amazed how much you can find .
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I'd go on with another newbie question.
If I'm not wrong rooting breaks warranty (in most of the cases at least) but I think (again im not sure) we can reboot our device to factory settings before giving it to technical service to fix its problems.
What happens if the device is not working? Is there an external way to fix the rooted system back to normal?

I am going to go with a NO in that subject.
Although there are plenty of methods that have been successful in several handsets in the past by using third party hardware, it can get complicated even for a advanced users to do so, since it might involve technichal aspects only manufacturers know about.
Normally, these methods are developed and posted here, depeding on the handset, it might be easy or not. Not so many years ago, these methods were as easy as flashing a "untouched" firmware, but lately, manufacturers have been implementing methods to detect if we have touched the bootloader and have increasingly making it harder for developers to break them, thus returning to a "factory untouched" state is getting harder with every new device.
In short, If you want your warranty intact beyond the existence of any doubt, do not root.

And why is my galaxy tab crushing with cm 10 mod with latest gapps. I dont really think it is a noob question.

Guys, please keep your questions device specific.
We can't be discussing Galaxy Tabs here.
Thanks

I have a problem and I'm new here, so I just reply in this topic. I'm sorry for my little English.
I have a HTC One S and I dropped it a few days ago, now the volume down button is dented and I can not use it anymore. Since you can still set te volume by pushing the volume up button and swipe the volume down, i thought it was ok.
Now I wanted to turn my phone off and this is what I've got:
*** LOCKED ***
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.15.0000
Radio-1.11.50.05.28
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
Dec 14 2012, 17:10:57:-1
HBOOT
<VOL UP> to previous item
<VOL DOWN. to next item
<POWER> to select item
FASTBOOT
RECOVERY
FACTORY RESET
CLEAR STORAGE
SIMLOCK
IMAGE CRC
SHOW BARCODE
Using the volume up button I can select one of the items, but pressing the powerbutton brings me nothing. I have no idea what to do or how I can fix this.
Please help!
I see this is the wrong topic but I am unable to delete this message, I'm sorry.

Well, it is a hardware fault since its broken, so not much we can help you here. Try maybe reading the HTC One S specific forums to find a workaround, but honestly, you better replace the handset.

I have two good question. What is the difference between the HTC One developer edition and the regular one (ha).
What I've seen made it look you would struggle with putting roms on the regular one.
Also, how soon is the one likely to have roms and people putting the latest android on it (like pure nexus jelly bean)? Like a couple months, a year?
Thanks for your help

TaderTot said:
I have two good question. What is the difference between the HTC One developer edition and the regular one (ha).
What I've seen made it look you would struggle with putting roms on the regular one.
Also, how soon is the one likely to have roms and people putting the latest android on it (like pure nexus jelly bean)? Like a couple months, a year?
Thanks for your help
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The difference of the Developer Edition and regular one is that it is already S-Off, unlocked bootloader(no need to go to HTC dev) and has 64GB storage. And it comes only on one variant which is a US LTE type. So LTE won't work on Europe or Asia.
Regarding AOSP(pure nexus ROM) probably less than a month after the release of kernel source code by HTC on which I dunno when it would come.

So this will be my first non-nexus device. Will there be custom roms that will be up to date with the latest version of Android so I don't have to wait for HTC? If so, how will their stability be?

xGary said:
So this will be my first non-nexus device. Will there be custom roms that will be up to date with the latest version of Android so I don't have to wait for HTC? If so, how will their stability be?
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Give it time and there will be. I'm sure they'll be stable enough when released anyway.
I'm also coming from a Nexus and is a first for me to be getting a HTC.

It is possible to use the EU version of the HTC One in the US? I'm debating between the developer version and the EU since I'm located in the US (and want an unlocked bootloader), but it looks like the EU version would work on AT&T?
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
EU: 800/1800/2600 MHz
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
US (TMO): 700/AWS MHz
US (Sprint): 1900 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 Mhz
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Yeah it looks like it, but, if you want an unlocked bootloader, developers edition should be your choice (that is what I would do)

Hi ! i am totaly new to Android Os so plz help me !!!
Hi
recently i bought HTC Desire A8181(Bravo).
i want to upgrade its software to Android v4.xxx . so i need help which firmware should i install on my HTC Desire so it work perfectly and has no Bugs ... Plz help me and guide me so i update my Phone
Thanks and also plz tell me Whats are Those ROMS ???

naeembabakheil said:
Hi
recently i bought HTC Desire A8181(Bravo).
i want to upgrade its software to Android v4.xxx . so i need help which firmware should i install on my HTC Desire so it work perfectly and has no Bugs ... Plz help me and guide me so i update my Phone
Thanks and also plz tell me Whats are Those ROMS ???
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Hi naeembakakheil.
First thing you might want to do when looking for firmwares for your mobile device, is look in the correct section. Try here for your device specific info.
Second, please browse through those forums, read the OP of each thread which includes the description of the ROM you are about to flash, and then, read through the replies your fellow users have left to see their impressions, you can usually find all the help you need by reading. This would be a good place to start. If you still have any doubts, then ask in the appropriate thread. If after extensive search you still do not find the appropriate answer to your question, then ask in the Q&A forum of the device (although if you do know how to search, you will hardly ever need to open a new thread, almost every question is already answered).
What you must not do ever is.....ask without reading or even worst, read the incorrect information (as in not your phone's forum), you could easily break your device useless by making that mistake.

When can we expect 4.2 ROMs for the HTC One?

amarshonarbangla said:
When can we expect 4.2 ROMs for the HTC One?
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No one can possibly tell you that. As a matter of fact, XDA was founded because of the same queries arouse between members...until they started building themselves. So, I kindly invite you to join our developer communitty and build yourself a 4.2 or at least get invokved in the process.
I wouldnt recommend coming to xda with expectations of the arrival of something, since it can be a very long and boring time . Its best to be involved in the making of things here at xda, that way I guarantee you will not get bored and eventually, you will get what you want.

D.O.C said:
No one can possibly tell you that. As a matter of fact, XDA was founded because of the same queries arouse between members...until they started building themselves. So, I kindly invite you to join our developer communitty and build yourself a 4.2 or at least get invokved in the process.
I wouldnt recommend coming to xda with expectations of the arrival of something, since it can be a very long and boring time . Its best to be involved in the making of things here at xda, that way I guarantee you will not get bored and eventually, you will get what you want.
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I am a long time iOS user who recently switched to Windows Phone 8. Seeing how customizable Android is, I am thinking of making the jump soon. I have a lot of things to learn about this wonderful operating system, which is why I joined XDA
What goes into making a custom ROM? Do we need any specific files/firmwares/kernels/drivers from HTC to make a 4.2 ROM? Are there not any devs working on 4.2 ROMs for the One?

What to know before buying used note 8 specially for rooting and ulocking bootloader?

Hi, I recently bought a sony xperia z5 which i saw later that its bootlaoder cannot be unlocked.Now i am planing to go with samsung note 8 (used one) so i just wanted to know what model number should i buy ( I am in india ) or what should i check before buying note 8? which can be rooted and unlock bootloader too ( i am planing to buy it from dubai)
Please suggest Thanks.

The best would be, that you start looking in the appropriate Note 8 sub forums or use the xda search function or use Google search. It won't harm you if you educate yourself a bit on this matter. The phone is 10 months old now, plenty of info out there.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 8 using XDA Labs

you must buy exynos for root.

Basically for model numbers... anything that ISNT N950U or N950U1 model numbers. So ones that work are: N950F/FD N950N N9500(there might be others but as long as its not N950U or N950U1 it should be fine.

me2151 said:
Basically for model numbers... anything that ISNT N950U or N950U1 model numbers. So ones that work are: N950F/FD N950N N9500(there might be others but as long as its not N950U or N950U1 it should be fine.
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Thanks :good:

Don'r buy a phone with snapdragon if you want custom rom. I don't care for custom roms because Note 8 is already strong so I bought SD Version for gamecube/wii emulation.

Cool Person said:
Don'r buy a phone with snapdragon if you want custom rom. I don't care for custom roms because Note 8 is already strong so I bought SD Version for gamecube/wii emulation.
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You mean i should go for exynos, only.( no matter what model number it is)
And
In other words, No snapdragon can be rooted (Am I right?)

nicholes said:
You mean i should go for exynos, only.( no matter what model number it is)
And
In other words, No snapdragon can be rooted (Am I right?)
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Yep any SM-N950F and SM-N950F/DS and SM-N950N are exynos and have bootloaders unlocked
The snapdragons from USA/Canada SM-N950U and SM-N950U1 and SM-N950W are bootloader Locked. But can be rooted but this is a huge but if your on bootloader v4 and up you CAN NOT root your phone.
Bootloader v3 and below CAN BE rooted. But no twrp recovery.
But there are snapdragons that have unlock bootloaders SM-N9500 which comes from China and Hong Kong.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk

Something i don't see many people talk about but i regret myself doing.
If you are looking for the dual sim option it is possible to convert SM-N950F to dual sim or just buy a SM-N950FD.
But if you are trying to mod/convert SM-N950F to dual sim it is easier to do it with knox 0, trying to do it with knox 1 will get you into more troubles. I regret triping knox before converting to my note 8 into dual sim as i have brought the equipment and it doesn't work with knox 1. Modding this phone is a nightmare with binary 4 (SM-N950F), 7 day oem unlock wait every flash/factory reset. The date change to unlock may not always work due to patch.
Personally i think this is a great phone but is a nightmare to work with. If your interested in intensive modding with this phone may not be for u.

bluecub1st said:
Something i don't see many people talk about but i regret myself doing.
If you are looking for the dual sim option it is possible to convert SM-N950F to dual sim or just buy a SM-N950FD.
But if you are trying to mod/convert SM-N950F to dual sim it is easier to do it with knox 0, trying to do it with knox 1 will get you into more troubles. I regret triping knox before converting to my note 8 into dual sim as i have brought the equipment and it doesn't work with knox 1. Modding this phone is a nightmare with binary 4 (SM-N950F), 7 day oem unlock wait every flash/factory reset. The date change to unlock may not always work due to patch.
Personally i think this is a great phone but is a nightmare to work with. If your interested in intensive modding with this phone may not be for u.
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The 7 day timer has a workaround to skip the waiting period (posted as a sticky here), as well as a fix that can be flashed but it also now included in most custom roms. Aside from that people shouldn't have any issues rooting or modding the Exynos variants.
Trying to convert a single sim phone to dual sim would require copying the imei which is illegal. That type of modding isn't supposed to be easy or encouraged, by design.

BluePhnx said:
Yep any SM-N950F and SM-N950F/DS and SM-N950N are exynos and have bootloaders unlocked
The snapdragons from USA/Canada SM-N950U and SM-N950U1 and SM-N950W are bootloader Locked. But can be rooted but this is a huge but if your on bootloader v4 and up you CAN NOT root your phone.
Bootloader v3 and below CAN BE rooted. But no twrp recovery.
But there are snapdragons that have unlock bootloaders SM-N9500 which comes from China and Hong Kong.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
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very good info/post. All what I wanted in one post.
Thanks! :good:

would my att sim card work in the exynos models? whats the downfall if it does work?

Granted, people can/should do their research before posting questions that have been answered many times over. Or easily searchable. There is nothing wrong with asking a question(s) pertaining to their individual circumstance. It's not just as simple as "educating" themselves when they are asking other's opinions and validating the information they have come across. This site is not a Wikipedia... It's also a community where people can go looking for help or advice. Your response neither helps or adds anything to this subject. There are people out there who don't even try or make an attempt to search before posting questions that have been asked a million times over. I don't feel that this is one of those posts. As for the "community" part I mentioned earlier, we are community that "should" be helping inform and educate people. I know the site has grown a lot over the years in popularity, increasing the number of lazy users making redundant and unnecessary threads. This too sadly has increased the amount of unhelpful, rude and egocentric users. I wish you could have been a little more constructive in your reply. Or, even if sarcastically, added some kind of relevant help. If only just to help any future users that don't even try before creating those unnecessary threads you/I see all the time.
Dejan Sathanas said:
The best would be, that you start looking in the appropriate Note 8 sub forums or use the xda search function or use Google search. It won't harm you if you educate yourself a bit on this matter. The phone is 10 months old now, plenty of info out there.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 8 using XDA Labs
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wigglitz said:
Granted, people can/should do their research before posting questions that have been answered many times over. Or easily searchable. There is nothing wrong with asking a question(s) pertaining to their individual circumstance. It's not just as simple as "educating" themselves when they are asking other's opinions and validating the information they have come across. This site is not a Wikipedia... It's also a community where people can go looking for help or advice. Your response neither helps or adds anything to this subject. There are people out there who don't even try or make an attempt to search before posting questions that have been asked a million times over. I don't feel that this is one of those posts. As for the "community" part I mentioned earlier, we are community that "should" be helping inform and educate people. I know the site has grown a lot over the years in popularity, increasing the number of lazy users making redundant and unnecessary threads. This too sadly has increased the amount of unhelpful, rude and egocentric users. I wish you could have been a little more constructive in your reply. Or, even if sarcastically, added some kind of relevant help. If only just to help any future users that don't even try before creating those unnecessary threads you/I see all the time.
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Agree fully. if you are going to comment, save the snide remarks

Question [CLOSED]Carrier Firmware

Hello all!
I recently purchased an unlocked Note 20 Ultra 5G, but it was originally an at&t phone (so I have all of their apps), yet I am using my Verizon sim card in the phone. It functions, I have signal, ect. yet I am missing main features I must have such as wifi calling. Model# is SM-N986U and CSC# is N986UOYN2DUE2. I have searched for the lastest VZN firmware on SAMobile for my specific phone, and am currently waiting for that download to complete. However, do you guys think this download (and upload with Odin) will give me full functionally of a Verizon phone?
And if so, do I need to upload the firmware with my sim card in, or out, of the phone in question?

kgood007 said:
Hello all!
I recently purchased an unlocked Note 20 Ultra 5G, but it was originally an at&t phone (so I have all of their apps), yet I am using my Verizon sim card in the phone. It functions, I have signal, ect. yet I am missing main features I must have such as wifi calling. Model# is SM-N986U and CSC# is N986UOYN2DUE2. I have searched for the lastest VZN firmware on SAMobile for my specific phone, and am currently waiting for that download to complete. However, do you guys think this download (and upload with Odin) will give me full functionally of a Verizon phone?
And if so, do I need to upload the firmware with my sim card in, or out, of the phone in question?
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You are in the wrong forum. Note 20 Ultra forum is here.. Ask your question there.

@kgood007
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Question NE2210 Chinese Version in US w/ Verizon - possible?

Hello everyone,
I've just recently joined XDA Developers to get a question answered and to potentially get into rooting later on, I couldn't find a definitive answer anywhere else and so made a thread.
Verizon is my carrier, and I would like to be able to use 5G and 4G within the United States. Is the Chinese NE2210 version of the phone able to do this from stock? Additionally, is there any way that I can remove any trace of the phone being intended for sale in China by changing the language to English across the entire US and removing Chinese apps?

WavermanD said:
Hello everyone,
I've just recently joined XDA Developers to get a question answered and to potentially get into rooting later on, I couldn't find a definitive answer anywhere else and so made a thread.
Verizon is my carrier, and I would like to be able to use 5G and 4G within the United States. Is the Chinese NE2210 version of the phone able to do this from stock? Additionally, is there any way that I can remove any trace of the phone being intended for sale in China by changing the language to English across the entire US and removing Chinese apps?
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It finds threads about it, search so will you find it.

zelma83 said:
It finds threads about it, search so will you find it.
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This is about as helpful as posting a LMGTFY link. You searched for and apparently found threads that were relevant, I didn't find anything that was relevant specifically pertaining to this phone and Verizon.
Telling me to look for things that you found is frustrating, because it would have taken you 15 seconds to link the things that you found and do me and whoever views this thread in the future a solid. But instead, you tell me to search, because I definitely didn't search my question online or on the forum before going to the trouble of making an account just to ask this question... Why wouldn't that be the very first thing I do?

The Chinese model lacks band 13 and thus is not whitelisted for Verizon. You can SIM swap to get it to work but it won't be a great experience.
Verizon uses 2, 4, 5, 13, 46, 48, and 66 for LTE and n2, n5, n66, n77, n260, and n261.
Of these, the NE2210 supports 2, 4, 5 for LTE and 0 5G bands, making the NE2210 a very poor choice for Verizon all the way around.
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WavermanD said:
This is about as helpful as posting a LMGTFY link. You searched for and apparently found threads that were relevant, I didn't find anything that was relevant specifically pertaining to this phone and Verizon.
Telling me to look for things that you found is frustrating, because it would have taken you 15 seconds to link the things that you found and do me and whoever views this thread in the future a solid. But instead, you tell me to search, because I definitely didn't search my question online or on the forum before going to the trouble of making an account just to ask this question... Why wouldn't that be the very first thing I do?
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Whats wrong with you?
Im trying to tell you what to do because you new.
I dont like that language when im trying to help you.
Me self needs as much as is, but i trying to search first , then i post.

EtherealRemnant said:
The Chinese model lacks band 13 and thus is not whitelisted for Verizon. You can SIM swap to get it to work but it won't be a great experience.
Verizon uses 2, 4, 5, 13, 46, 48, and 66 for LTE and n2, n5, n66, n77, n260, and n261.
Of these, the NE2210 supports 2, 4, 5 for LTE and 0 5G bands, making the NE2210 a very poor choice for Verizon all the way around.
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Thank you for the helpful reply. Luckily, I managed to get the order cancelled and will choose a phone designed for use in the US instead. Since those tend to be out of my price range for the 10 Pro, I was planning on probably waiting for the Nothing phone (1).

zelma83 said:
Whats wrong with you?
Im trying to tell you what to do because you new.
I dont like that language when im trying to help you.
Me self needs as much as is, but i trying to search first , then i post.
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The issue here is that the OP's question as related to Verizon has not been answered in this subforum before. I did a search myself last night only found 5 posts that even mentioned Verizon, two that were in this very thread, but none about the specific question being asked.
WavermanD said:
Thank you for the helpful reply. Luckily, I managed to get the order cancelled and will choose a phone designed for use in the US instead. Since those tend to be out of my price range for the 10 Pro, I was planning on probably waiting for the Nothing phone (1).
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Glad that I was able to help you before you got stuck with an incompatible phone. Generally speaking, it's always best to get the global version, because with the carriers shutting down 3G they are all getting stricter about what phones can and can't be used on their networks.

WavermanD said:
This is about as helpful as posting a LMGTFY link. You searched for and apparently found threads that were relevant, I didn't find anything that was relevant specifically pertaining to this phone and Verizon.
Telling me to look for things that you found is frustrating, because it would have taken you 15 seconds to link the things that you found and do me and whoever views this thread in the future a solid. But instead, you tell me to search, because I definitely didn't search my question online or on the forum before going to the trouble of making an account just to ask this question... Why wouldn't that be the very first thing I do?
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It's nice to be nice, regardless if it's helpful or not.
English isn't his first language, you didn't state you'd searched, a lot of people don't.
If indeed you are new, maybe best to leave the attitude at the door.
In regards to your question..assuming you're in the US, get the US friendly phone. Don't try to save money on the chinese version, you'll regret it later.
The bands for the Chinese phone and what Verizon support are publicly available.
@EtherealRemnant has kindly showed these for you.
In short just avoid the Chinese model is just not worth the money you'd save even if it did work as expected.

Im sorry if i ower reakt, but brcause you are new here, i tried to help to search first thing.
Im self is really bad for this and i have alot of question som beeing very stupid.
We forget about this and go on.
have you figure it out?