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Did you delete your data, system, safestrap is gone, only download mode and stock recovery are available? Do you want to start fresh and out of the box new?
(( FOR s 5 ACTIVE )) NE4Thanks to @ted77usa & @Intub8 for the help. SAM MOBILE for the Firmware and steps. KNOX was not tripped. Nothing was after this. It worked perfectly.
Just FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS
Do this at your own risk. If you don't read and mess up your phone, its not my fault . As long as you can get into download mode, this will help out a lot. I am not responsible for what you do to your device.
Odin Back to s5 Active Stock. NE4
Make sure you have the Samsung drivers installed before starting.
Samsung USB drivers
Make sure USB debugging is checked under settings/developer options. If you don't know how to do that, go to "about device" in settings, and click on "Build Number x5 till you unlock Developer options".
Extract (unzip) the firmware file (NE4) HERE
Download Odin v3.09 HERE
Extract Odin zip-file
Open Odin v3.09
Reboot phone in Download Mode (press and hold Home + Power + Volume Down buttons)
Connect phone and wait until you get a blue sign in Odin
Add the firmware file to AP / PDA
Make sure re-partition is NOT ticked
Click the start button, sit back and wait a few minutes
Note : Some users are getting stuck at long At&t screen, once odin finishes and you happen to get stuck, reboot to stock recovery and factory reset your phone.
It should boot up just fine after that. The At&t screen sometimes takes a while.
You can do this below if you want. I have done this about 5 or 6 times. #6 and 7 happens sometimes.
I wanted to be totally fresh and wanted to use "Wipe Data (YES)" in safestrap. Here is what I did and what happened.
My phone has been really good since this and all is smooth.
Things to do to be fresh and start all the way over out of box style:
1. Make sure you have done a back up, and your ready to restore with Odin.
2. Go into Safestrap
3. Go to WIPE tab > Factory reset
4. Advanced wipe, (Wipe > Dalvik Cache, "NOT Micro SDcard"> Data, Cache, System)
5. For really starting over > next to Advanced wipe is "Format Data" do that and type YES
6. This will get rid of safestrap and everything so you will get a black screen once it deletes all.
7. Try to catch it and go into download mode before it boots to the Samsung screen (Which it will stay there FOREVER)
(As soon as your phone does this, try to catch it before the samsung screen and go into download mode. When it turns black, quickly hold Power + Volume down + home button. )
8. While in download mode, flash the restore firmware.
9. Let it do its thing and you will be factory new.
10. After it all settles down and you are back up and running, you can start like I do.
(Root with V3 (Make it Rain), Install and update SU, Reboot 3 times lol, install busybox, install safestrap, install xposed, reboot, install your modules, reboot, power down and boot back but go into safestrap and wipe dalvik cache and regular cache. Reboot. lol- Install all your apps you like or have your backups from titanium on your sd card and restore) Reboot and go into safestrap again and fix permissions and reboot lol...... BAM. (Your phone should be sick and you should throw up on it)
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NE4 (THE MAIN FILE YOU NEED)
[KITKAT:ND3]
LATEST BETA FILE: Safestrap-KLTEATT-ND3-3.75-B03.apk
XDA Downloads Safestrap
Mirror 1 (Crackflasher) Safestrap
BUSYBOX
SUPERSU
Just make sure the model number matches yours and you should be all set. That file should contain everything you need to get back to stock. Follow the directions listed underneath the firmware.
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Thanks. All is good and I can confirm this works on the At&t S 5 Active (NE4).
I am fresh to start over.
Edit: All is good. Rooted, Busybox, Froze bloat etc. Safestraped, Backuped, Phone is running great!!
Intub8 said:
Just make sure the model number matches yours and you should be all set. That file should contain everything you need to get back to stock. Follow the directions listed underneath the firmware.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Thanks. Its working!!!!! I thought this wasn't out yet. Looks out to me.
I will update OP and get on my XDA app to hit thanks. Thanks for pointing out the simple directions I failed to see on SAM mobile. My phone is back
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Thanks. Its working!!!!! I thought this wasn't out yet. Looks out to me.
I will update OP and get on my XDA app to hit thanks. Thanks for pointing out the simple directions I failed to see on SAM mobile. My phone is back
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Glad that worked out for u bud.....[emoji41][emoji106]
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I wonder if this would work on the regular S5? If someone tries and it does please report back....THanks
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I wonder if this would work on the regular S5? If someone tries and it does please report back....THanks
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WWWHYY would you even want to know if this will work when you have your own firmware?! Then you try and convince someone else to take the plunge and try instead of you doing it? Just wondering why... cause i'm very baffled right now.
Caliesv said:
WWWHYY would you even want to know if this will work when you have your own firmware?! Then you try and convince someone else to take the plunge and try instead of you doing it? Just wondering why... cause i'm very baffled right now.
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Uhhhh. I'm sorry you feel that way. I was running s 5 ROMS just fine on my phone. Their basicly the same but with a few different specs.
What plunge are you talking about dude? I have soft bricked my phone (formated data) and used this to start fresh. The more we know the better. I have done it. Its fine. I have ran NCE NE4, you must not know whats going on here. That what this thread is for. Restoring your phone to factory defaults. I have done it for the Active and if someone did it on their regular s 5 than I want to know.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Uhhhh. I'm sorry you feel that way. I was running s 5 ROMS just fine on my phone. Their basicly the same but with a few different specs.
What plunge are you talking about dude? I have soft bricked my phone (formated data) and used this to start fresh. The more we know the better. I have done it. Its fine. I have ran NC2 NE4, you must not know whats going on here. That what this thread is for. Restoring your phone to factory defaults. I have done it for the Active and if someone did it on their regular s 5 than I want to know. THATS IT. Now go here for being mean > CLICK ME @Caliesv
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LOL! nice actually made me laugh! lol i hear ya man. i was just wondering why. and you full fulled my wondering. thanks
Caliesv said:
LOL! nice actually made me laugh! lol i hear ya man. i was just wondering why. and you full fulled my wondering. thanks
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Its all good. I'm glad I made you laugh too. Really. I'm just messing with ya a little....This thread is for Active users. Like I said, if this can work for the regular S 5, then I will update the OP for S5/S5 Actives only. Thats all. I was on NCE (A regular S 5 ROM) when I did this and it worked perfectly.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Its all good. I'm glad I made you laugh too. Really. I'm just messing with ya a little....This thread is for Active users. Like I said, if this can work for the regular S 5, then I will update the OP for S5/S5 Actives only. Thats all. I was on NCE (A regular S 5 ROM) when I did this and it worked perfectly.
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No worries man lol. yeah i have an active too. i hope we get our own thread soon. And thanks for the steps, tons of people are going to need it lol
Caliesv said:
No worries man lol. yeah i have an active too. i hope we get our own thread soon. And thanks for the steps, tons of people are going to need it lol
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10-4.....It really helped me when I screwed up. This worked 100% for me. I have flashed over 5 different ROMS from T-Mobile, International, as well as At&t ROMs we have. Sometimes its better to start all the way over fresh. Sometimes we get into a pickle and need to start over. This will help us.....Thanks !!!!
Continued thanks for being our official S5 Active tester. I'm glad to hear you got it back to running and that you were able to find the firmware for our G870A. This will come in handy when I get my phone past the point of no return, it usually takes me a month or so but I'll get there.
Please keep us informed as your tests, trials and discoveries continue!
thepktrckt said:
Continued thanks for being our official S5 Active tester. I'm glad to hear you got it back to running and that you were able to find the firmware for our G870A. This will come in handy when I get my phone past the point of no return, it usually takes me a month or so but I'll get there.
Please keep us informed as your tests, trials and discoveries continue!
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No problem. Looking at a GPS issue now. Something has screwed it all up. Probably a module or two (exposed) Almost tempted to restore again and test before each install.
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If you go back to stock and the GPS still doesn't initiate let me know. There was a way to hard reset the GPS that I came across on the gs3 that may work. Every time I flash a rom if it's acting goofy I wipe everything and go back to 100% stock. Sometimes things get stuck and left behind that can muck things up. Think of it like a colon clense for your phone. Glad the Odin worked for you.
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Intub8 said:
If you go back to stock and the GPS still doesn't initiate let me know. There was a way to hard reset the GPS that I came across on the gs3 that may work. Every time I flash a rom if it's acting goofy I wipe everything and go back to 100% stock. Sometimes things get stuck and left behind that can muck things up. Think of it like a colon clense for your phone. Glad the Odin worked for you.
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Yes, Please share if you don't mind. I broke the GPS lol. I don't believe flashing this official firmware did it though, I think flashing different ROM's did it but who am I......I found a GPS fix I used for my Note 3 (Kit Kat) You have to flash it in recovery. Is that how yours is? Here is the file for you to check out if you want to. I haven't flashed it yet though. >>>> Deleted Link ....That didnt work. Got random reboots.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Yes, Please share if you don't mind. I broke the GPS lol. I don't believe flashing this official firmware did it though, I think flashing different ROM's did it but who am I......I found a GPS fix I used for my Note 3 (Kit Kat) You have to flash it in recovery. Is that how yours is? Here is the file for you to check out if you want to. I haven't flashed it yet though. >>>> Deleted Link ....That didnt work. Got random reboots.
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Found it after about an hour of looking , You must Odin back to a stock ROM first.
((((2. Enter into dialer *2767*3855# (Will do a HARD reset, no internal storage will be lost except the usual data)
3. Boot up again and run... )))
keep in mind this was the method to fix the gps on the note 2 and it may or may not still be a good dialer code for your s5.
Intub8 said:
Found it after about an hour of looking , You must Odin back to a stock ROM first.
((((2. Enter into dialer *2767*3855# (Will do a HARD reset, no internal storage will be lost except the usual data)
3. Boot up again and run... )))
keep in mind this was the method to fix the gps on the note 2 and it may or may not still be a good dialer code for your s5.
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I restored a back up and it's working again. Something I installed did it. I'm trying to figure out what did. It could be anything. Thanks for this.
Caliesv said:
WWWHYY would you even want to know if this will work when you have your own firmware?! Then you try and convince someone else to take the plunge and try instead of you doing it? Just wondering why... cause i'm very baffled right now.
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And @Caliesv I would ask you Why Not? The whole point of unlocking/rooting/building custom ROMs is because WE CAN, and how better to learn what we can and can't do then by trying? Just because a device has its own firmware has absolutely no bearing on what ROM you flash, granted as the default firmware it likely wont flash do to a signature mismatch but as a custom ROM why not?
I might just build one for the Heck of it.
GPS is a problem still. About to re-flash the restore and see what happens without root. Will report back.
Hi folks. So I haven't been on this site in a good while, but I've come across an issue that requires the help of someone with wisdom about the issue at hand. Up front, you should know that I'm not familiar with the whole rooting thing and even the technical terminology of most of it.
A little back story...I've recently purchased a Sprint HTC One M8 from someone. Everything works fine with the phone, there's nothing wrong with it at all. It's rooted and has s-off. I bought it that way. I asked the seller if he could unroot and take the phone back to full stock before the deal, but turns out he had someone else root and soff for him so he wasn't able to take it back to full stock. But he put the stock ROM back on it for me, though it's still rooted and has s off. I've provided pictures for those who are in the know to see for yourself, because I don't know what any of that software info means on those screens.
Here are my questions, and I'll put them in numerical format so there won't be any confusion in replying back:
1. From what you see in the pictures provided, are you able to to tell if it is in fact on the stock ROM or not?
2. I am receiving notifications that an official OTA update is available from Sprint/HTC:
A. What are the consequences of downloading and installing the OTA update(s)?
B. Will s-off be effected?
C. Will the root block the update from happening, or will it work fine since it's on stock ROM and has s-off?
D. Will it brick my phone if I update, or is there a chance at all that my phone will get bricked or stuck?
3. If I want to revert my Sprint M8 back to full stock (unroot and s-on), or maybe even put on a different ROM, how can I go about doing it?
4. What benefits do I have in keeping my phone in the state that it is currently in, that is, having rooted and s-off? And how can I take advantage of those benefits?
5. If I want to flash a different ROM or revert back to full stock (unroot and s-on), will it delete everything off my phone, including specifically my synced Gmail accounts?
6. As you can see in the picture with the 3 Android figures, at the top it says "tampered" and "unlocked." Does the "unlocked" mean that the phone is fully unlocked and can be used on any other service provider network, domestically and internationally?
Sorry about the length of this message, but I know there are some knowledgeable people on here who have wisdom and experience on the issue, so I would greatly appreciate any productive and helpful replies to my questions. If you have any questions for clarification please feel free to ask. Thanks!
If you choose recovery from the menu option in your first screenshot, what happens?
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If you choose recovery from the menu option in your first screenshot, what happens?
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Hi Captain. I haven't tried anything because I wanted to seek help first and get answers to my questions before doing anything. That would be much appreciated. I also didn't want to risk bricking since I don't know anything about this stuff. What is recovery, what is it supposed to do?
1. Yes, it appears to be a stock rooted ROM. Appears to be the first update. There have been two since, including the most recent one from this past week.
2.Your software & firmware version will be updated. S-off won't be affected. You simply have to have the stock recovery installed to take the OTA. Taking the OTA won't brick your phone.
3. You can revert to S-on but I'm not even sure why you'd want to. If you want to unroot simply take the OTA after installing the stock recovery.
4. Hit the second link in my sig for more info.
5. If you flash a different ROM yes, your phone will get wiped and you'll need to set up your accounts again. If you take a OTA update your data won't be affected.
6. "Unlocked" means your bootloader is unlocked, plain and simple. See my answer to question #4 for more info.
As far as what recovery is, think of it as a very small and separate OS from the Android OS. It allows for the flashing of .zip files (ROM's, kernels, mods, etc.). It also allows you to back up your entire phone to either the internal storage or micro-SD card, among other things.
Take a look at this thread if you haven't already.
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1. Yes, it appears to be a stock rooted ROM. Appears to be the first update. There have been two since, including the most recent one from this past week.
2.Your software & firmware version will be updated. S-off won't be affected. You simply have to have the stock recovery installed to take the OTA. Taking the OTA won't brick your phone.
3. You can revert to S-on but I'm not even sure why you'd want to. If you want to unroot simply take the OTA after installing the stock recovery.
4. Hit the second link in my sig for more info.
5. If you flash a different ROM yes, your phone will get wiped and you'll need to set up your accounts again. If you take a OTA update your data won't be affected.
6. "Unlocked" means your bootloader is unlocked, plain and simple. See my answer to question #4 for more info.
As far as what recovery is, think of it as a very small and separate OS from the Android OS. It allows for the flashing of .zip files (ROM's, kernels, mods, etc.). It also allows you to back up your entire phone to either the internal storage or micro-SD card, among other things.
Take a look at this thread if you haven't already.
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Thank you very much Magnum_Enforcer for the detailed and organized response. I will definitely be looking into the links you've mentioned/provided. Ideally, it would be great if I can somehow keep it rooted and have s-off while being able to take OTA updates. From that point I clean learn about and use the benefits from it being rooted with s-off, although I need to keep my Google accounts synced, so no flashing of ROMs for me.
So after reading your reply, I went ahead and tried taking the OTA, and after it turned off, it loaded up in the screen in the pic I've attached to this message. I'm assuming it doesn't seem I have the stock recovery as you said is required to take the OTA. How do I get the stock recovery on my phone in place of this "Team Win Recovery Project" recovery so that I can be able to take the OTA update properly? And will removing the current recovery and putting on the stock recovery effect s-off, root, or my synced accounts in any way?
P.S. I see you're in Birmingham. I actually grew up all over B'ham. Which part of town are you from?
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Thank you very much Magnum_Enforcer for the detailed and organized response. I will definitely be looking into the links you've mentioned/provided. Ideally, it would be great if I can somehow keep it rooted and have s-off while being able to take OTA updates. From that point I clean learn about and use the benefits from it being rooted with s-off, although I need to keep my Google accounts synced, so no flashing of ROMs for me.
So after reading your reply, I went ahead and tried taking the OTA, and after it turned off, it loaded up in the screen in the pic I've attached to this message. I'm assuming it doesn't seem I have the stock recovery as you said is required to take the OTA. How do I get the stock recovery on my phone in place of this "Team Win Recovery Project" recovery so that I can be able to take the OTA update properly? And will removing the current recovery and putting on the stock recovery effect s-off, root, or my synced accounts in any way?
P.S. I see you're in Birmingham. I actually grew up all over B'ham. Which part of town are you from?
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That's why I asked you to select recovery in the first place. I could've told you whether it would've worked based on that.
I recognize you wanted answers to your questions, but in order to give you the most complete and accurate answer, all I asked was for you to check your recovery.
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That's why I asked you to select recovery in the first place. I could've told you whether it would've worked based on that.
I recognize you wanted answers to your questions, but in order to give you the most complete and accurate answer, all I asked was for you to check your recovery.
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There's no need for quarrel or to take anything personal. It's not as if I ignored you, I replied back to you. I'm here to seek answers and help, I've no interest in disagreements. Sorry if you feel that way. I'm sure you're quite knowledgeable and experienced enough to have been able to tell me the same, if not more. The response I received from Magnum just happened to be complete and informative enough to me to let me know it was ok to try it out. I like to know at least a little about what I'm doing before jumping into something. That's just the way I am, people are different.
I sought help again in my last response though, and if you're still interested in helping, it would be appreciated. If not, I would understand, no worries or hard feelings.
You won't be able to take the OTA with TWRP installed. You can find the stock recovery in the first post of the link below. There are also instructions on how to install it. Once installed you can boot back to the OS and take the OTA.
Stock Backups + OTA's
To answer your other question, I've lived in several different places all over the state over the years but now live in the northern part of Jefferson county, outside of the city of Birmingham (you couldn't pay me to live in the city limits of B'ham).
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I have done this http://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/development/root-cf-autoroot-tab-s2-sm-t3187202 to root my device it all passes and after restart it will not stop looping, Help please?
are you able to get into download mode by holding power + down volume + home button for 10 seconds or until it goes into the mode? If so you can easily use SmartSwitch to reinitialize the firmware, it will download and flash it. http://www.samsung.com/us/smart-switch/
You will need to install Smart Switch and hit emergency software recovery and initialization under the more button in the top right. Your device will likely not be shown in it's current state so you will need to type your specific model number (example "SM-T710") without quotes, you will be asked for your serial number as well, so get the number from the sticker that was on your tablet or the tablet box/product packaging.
You WILL need an internet connection, the program should provide any steps and has a built in guide should anything not be clear in this post. Please be aware that if you did not make a backup you will lose your data. I am not experienced enough to know if there is another way around this but at this point and time I doubt it.
Smart Switch is a fantastic app, it recovered my device when EVERYTHING was destroyed save for the download mode.
Let us know if it works for you!
Nice, mine is the smt810 and I'll do this once I get home in a few hours and let you know how it goes . Thanks
It clearly states you need to flash the permissive kernel before rooting or you will boot loop.
Ok thanks wirelesskebab it worked and ashyx how do you flash it and will it even work? i dont want to brick a 400$ tab lol
Seems I am also in in similar boat. I was going back to stock and the cable became loose and I have a bad flash. I can access download mode but have lost TWRP and root. Problem is odin fails to flash original firmware and smart switch for pc seems to hang at 0% after downloading software. Is there any way to force odin?
triniboy said:
Seems I am also in in similar boat. I was going back to stock and the cable became loose and I have a bad flash. I can access download mode but have lost TWRP and root. Problem is odin fails to flash original firmware and smart switch for pc seems to hang at 0% after downloading software. Is there any way to force odin?
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How long did you leave smart switch to attempt an initialization? 30 minutes? You may try using smart switch on another computer and giving it a go. Another thing you might try is if the cable is damaged swapping it out.
I can't really say beyond that. I will say that Kies and Smart Switch froze on my PC and I ended up moving to another desktop to get the job done and uninstalling/reinstalling. Make sure to copy your backups though as uninstalling removes them too.
If you are still experiencing issues then unfortunately it is beyond my limited experience. Hope this helps.
Thatguy_1 said:
Ok thanks wirelesskebab it worked and ashyx how do you flash it and will it even work? i dont want to brick a 400$ tab lol
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I think that it's better to install TWRP and from inside TWRP click install and load the latest SuperSU from a directory before hand from www.chainfire.eu. That's how I root my tablet. I was using permissive kernel and auto-root but it's not necissary. I can't speak for any benefit or lack thereof.
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How long did you leave smart switch to attempt an initialization? 30 minutes? You may try using smart switch on another computer and giving it a go. Another thing you might try is if the cable is damaged swapping it out.
I can't really say beyond that. I will say that Kies and Smart Switch froze on my PC and I ended up moving to another desktop to get the job done and uninstalling/reinstalling. Make sure to copy your backups though as uninstalling removes them too.
If you are still experiencing issues then unfortunately it is beyond my limited experience. Hope this helps.
I think that it's better to install TWRP and from inside TWRP click install and load the latest SuperSU from a directory before hand from www.chainfire.eu. That's how I root my tablet. I was using permissive kernel and auto-root but it's not necissary. I can't speak for any benefit or lack thereof.
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I left smart switch on till I got a try again message odd.. I was wondering why odin and original firmware cant save my bacon at this point?
Thatguy_1 said:
Nice, mine is the smt810 and I'll do this once I get home in a few hours and let you know how it goes . Thanks
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I left smart switch on till I got a try again message odd.. I was wondering why odin and original firmware cant save my bacon at this point?[/QUOTo
ok laptop worked.. huge relief back to 5.02
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Ok thanks wirelesskebab it worked and ashyx how do you flash it and will it even work? i dont want to brick a 400$ tab lol
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Of course it will work, but it's for 5.1.1 and 6.0 devices.
Just read the related thread.
Although I can't understand why you boot looped on 5.0.2 as it doesn't require a modification to the boot.img.
As suggested I advise you root with supersu 2.65 via twrp.
Hello Everyone!
Quick (stupid) question. How would one root the Samsung Galaxy S6 (Flat, T-Mobile Variant) running Android 6.0.1 (Stock)? Last night (As of this post) I've tried installing TWRP but ended in a bootloop at the Samsung logo, and (Thankfully) Smart Switch saved my ass. At this point, tripping KNOX isn't of my concern, as my phone's warranty has expired. Attached is my phone's Model, Build, etc.
Any help is appreciated.
-Matt
Use CF-Auto-Root.
EncryptedCurse said:
Use CF-Auto-Root.
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Looking through all the builds, I don't see my build number. The closest one to mine (which is MMB29K.G920TUVU4EPF1), is MMB29K.G920TUVU3EPD1. Now, I would use this, but I don't want a 600$ brick, so unless it's compatible with my build, I'm gonna have to wait.
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Looking through all the builds, I don't see my build number. The closest one to mine (which is MMB29K.G920TUVU4EPF1), is MMB29K.G920TUVU3EPD1. Now, I would use this, but I don't want a 600$ brick, so unless it's compatible with my build, I'm gonna have to wait.
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Ah, yeah, looks like you're running the latest update and it seems to early to tell if CF-Auto-Root will even work on it (I don't think anyone has tried yet).
Anyways, here's all the information you'll need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67623487&postcount=7
Rest assured that you can't brick anything as long as you have access to download mode to reflash stock firmware.
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Ah, yeah, looks like you're running the latest update and it seems to early to tell if CF-Auto-Root will even work on it (I don't think anyone has tried yet).
Anyways, here's all the information you'll need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67623487&postcount=7
Rest assured that you can't brick anything as long as you have access to download mode to reflash stock firmware.
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Thanks for the reply. Hmm...last time I flashed TWRP on my phone, It got stuck on the "Samsung Galaxy" logo, stayed there no matter what, thankfully I was able to use "Emergency Firmware Reset." I've been snooping around forms, and some people state to, "UNCHECK AUTO REBOOT, when finished installing, reboot manually." Of course, I'm hesitant to try that, after all Smart Switch only backs up photos, videos, apps, etc, but not the actual Android operating system.
I'm gonna do a back up of what I can and try EncryptedCurse's suggestion. Wish me luck!
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Ah, yeah, looks like you're running the latest update and it seems to early to tell if CF-Auto-Root will even work on it (I don't think anyone has tried yet).
Anyways, here's all the information you'll need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67623487&postcount=7
Rest assured that you can't brick anything as long as you have access to download mode to reflash stock firmware.
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Did as instructed, still didn't work, freezes and shuts down at the Samsung Logo. Doing a Emergency Device Initialization now, and then restoring my stuff. Thanks anyway, I knew I shouldn't have updated to 6.0... :sigh:
So im guessing theres no way to root it yet huh?
faratl said:
So im guessing theres no way to root it yet huh?
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From what I've tried, no. I had a feeling this would happen as soon as I upgraded.
On a side note, is anyone developing a kernel for build MMB29K.G920TUVU4EPF1? Twisted Six's kernel only goes up to EPD1...
What if you just downgrade back to lolipop ??
faratl said:
What if you just downgrade back to lolipop ??
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The latest update expressly prevents downgrading.
If you ever had loaded into recovery in temporary TWRP you'll note that even after formating /data/ and doing an advance wipe (selecting everything), then enter the file manager there is still a bunch of folders and some files throughout your device.
Is there a way to wipe out everything and start completely 100% fresh?
DO NOT DO THIS --- OR --- DO but do not cry about it
I have an answer to my question and it is as I suspected. The short and more official answer is, no. The longer answer is, yes, technically. -- But you should not try it unless you are 100% sure you can live without your phone (forever).
As it turns out no one had a full 100% flash for the whole device and its complete file system structure (except for Motorola). But as it turns out without a manufacturing cable it would be useless anyway. This is because part of your phone is protected and cannot be wiped clean and flashed so blindly... ie... Unlike your desktop computer. But if you're like me you have noticed some orphan files (a few logs).
Is it worth taking the risk just to clear some orphan files? Probably not. But since you do not have a manufacturing cable and technically, your phone can recover, what you can do is the following.
Do NOT use the TWRP installed on your phone. Rather use it in memory
Code:
sudo fastboot boot twrp-3.3.1-0-payton.img
Load TWRP and format DATA
Reboot, go to advance wipe, wipe everything.
Reboot to TWRP (again)
In TWRP via the terminal type in
HTML:
rm -r -f *
You will see a lot of things that cannot be deleted. This is because you do not have permission to do so. What little is removed will likely be restored after reboot from the master rom hidden somewhere on your phone which cannot be played with unless you have a manufacturing cable (so I am told). ---- If you have such a cable --- DO NOT DO THIS. --- If you suspect you have such a cable --- Do NOT do this. -- I did this with just my normal charging cable.
After you have run the command which will take forever. Tell TWRP to reboot to bootloader. You will now have a BLACK screen. This is where I panicked. I waited a while and long pressed down the power button (presumably turning off my device). Then I pressed down the power button and the lower volume button. -- Keep holding the buttons. -- It will take longer than you like but your phone will boot up. And low and behold everything that was in the master rom (chip?) has been restored and you will now see the bootloader screen (finally). Load TWRP and install your ROM of choice.
How many times have I done this successfully? 2x
Does this mean this is dependable? Unlikely
Do I recommend this? No.
Should you depend on this? No.
Are you taking a large gable? YES
Can this brick your device? YES, more than likely.
Should you do this if you have any doubts? NO.
Will you get any help if this goes wrong? NO.
So why did I do it? As I look to possibly upgrade my phone in the future I feel a little more daring and can afford to do so. lol
you say "yes, technically", but I have yet to see someone get back to a fully operational stock. The best they can do is get to a mostly operational custom ROM. I (and a bunch of other folks here) would love to be proven wrong.
KrisM22 said:
you say "yes, technically", but I have yet to see someone get back to a fully operational stock. The best they can do is get to a mostly operational custom ROM. I (and a bunch of other folks here) would love to be proven wrong.
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After performing this I installed only the official firmware. No additional ROM or GSI. The firmware itself includes the stock software.
A word of caution. --- I did this on 3 phones now. 2 work just fine. But 1 does not. The one that does not reports my IMEI as 0. This means it boots, it loads, it will play games and apps and update via Google Play Store, but it will never make a single phone call ever again. --- Food for thought.
Thanks. That got me thinking - I wonder if you took the one with no IMEI and plugged it to Moto's Smart Assistant, would it recognize it? Would it allow you to force flash it?
KrisM22 said:
Thanks. That got me thinking - I wonder if you took the one with no IMEI and plugged it to Moto's Smart Assistant, would it recognize it? Would it allow you to force flash it?
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The world will never know. lol --- I'm a Linux user and their app doesn't seem to like Wine. I suppose I could set up a virtual machine with Windows and hope to connect through that. But I was once informed you really cannot do that via a virtual machine. Unless I was misinformed?! In any case, flashing the phone is not a problem. I can wipe it and reinstall any ROM or GSI at the moment. Or I can repeat my process too back to stock under a full wipe. The results appear to be the same.
I already have ordered a cheap Moto G7 from Google as a replacement. My current plan will be to find a very light (small), bare-bones ROM / GSI and install it onto this Moto X4. From there I'll load it up with games and such and let the kids play with it. Figure since it cannot make or receive calls anymore (or text messages either) it will make for a fun little toy.
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The world will never know. lol --- I'm a Linux user and their app doesn't seem to like Wine. I suppose I could set up a virtual machine with Windows and hope to connect through that. But I was once informed you really cannot do that via a virtual machine. Unless I was misinformed?! In any case, flashing the phone is not a problem. I can wipe it and reinstall any ROM or GSI at the moment. Or I can repeat my process too back to stock under a full wipe. The results appear to be the same.
I already have ordered a cheap Moto G7 from Google as a replacement. My current plan will be to find a very light (small), bare-bones ROM / GSI and install it onto this Moto X4. From there I'll load it up with games and such and let the kids play with it. Figure since it cannot make or receive calls anymore (or text messages either) it will make for a fun little toy.
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Thanks! Yeah, in the past I have been a lot on Ubuntu and stuff like this is not forgiving for wine.
It's a darn shame that we can't just send these phones to Moto with $25 and get it fixed. Oh well!
KrisM22 said:
Thanks. That got me thinking - I wonder if you took the one with no IMEI and plugged it to Moto's Smart Assistant, would it recognize it? Would it allow you to force flash it?
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Moto smart assistant can`t recognize the phone in rescue mode..
St.Noigel said:
Moto smart assistant can`t recognize the phone in rescue mode..
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I know it can't on yours, and most folks with this prob. I was wondering about MotoX4's case. But thanks for trying it!
I had high hopes for that smart assistant when I discovered it, but no joy. When we lost RSDlite, we lost a lot - unless they upgrade it...
KrisM22 said:
I know it can't on yours, and most folks with this prob. I was wondering about MotoX4's case. But thanks for trying it!
I had high hopes for that smart assistant when I discovered it, but no joy. When we lost RSDlite, we lost a lot - unless they upgrade it...
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RSDlite? Lost? Is this what you seek? https://rsdlitetool.com/
MotoX4 said:
RSDlite? Lost? Is this what you seek? https://rsdlitetool.com/
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6.2.4 won't recognize a Moto X4 after it is upgraded to Pie.
I used RSDLite since the times of the P2K and MAGX (Linux)... but since it's easier to use fastboot commands...
I have a stock X4 Android One around, if I want to flash Pixel Experience, can I go back to stock in the future?
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I have a stock X4 Android One around, if I want to flash Pixel Experience, can I go back to stock in the future?
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In all probability, NO.
Then I'm gonna stay on Stock Rom, so... If I want to flash custom Roms, there's not way back...
joel_sinbad said:
Then I'm gonna stay on Stock Rom, so... If I want to flash custom Roms, there's not way back...
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If you read a lot on this forum, that's the message I see.
I agree, NO going back. You can, I have... flash any factory Pie rom . All will flash fine and no IMEI, wifi. Radios are gone. I use Google Fi and cell data services go wierd on custom roms, if you want carrier switching.
This makes me think that the Moto X4 is more dangerous than the back then Atrix 4G with their Tegra 2 chipset...
joel_sinbad said:
This makes me think that the Moto X4 is more dangerous than the back then Atrix 4G with their Tegra 2 chipset...
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I don't recall thinking that the Moto Atrix 4g was at all dangerous when I had one - a rather nice phone imho, though that was a very long time ago. I don't think of the Moto X4 as "dangerous" - it is simply that there is not a correct understanding of the Pie file structure by the custom ROM devs such that their ROMs would not so change the file structure of the phone as to prevent it from being flashed back to stock.
Users need to recognize that, with this phone, you can't get back to stock if you flash any custom ROM.
afaik.
This change happened with the file structure and boot structure changes of the Pie update. Prior to that, folks could get away with all manner of mods. Devs for this phone need to approach modifications with the idea of assuring that any mod can be flashed back to stock, BEFORE it is released. That has not happened. And likely won't. User beware!
KrisM22..... Thank you for stating what I could not do as well.
kkjb said:
KrisM22..... Thank you for stating what I could not do as well.
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we ALL do it, and CAN do it - all in hopes of saving some newbie from disaster!