Hi folks. So I haven't been on this site in a good while, but I've come across an issue that requires the help of someone with wisdom about the issue at hand. Up front, you should know that I'm not familiar with the whole rooting thing and even the technical terminology of most of it.
A little back story...I've recently purchased a Sprint HTC One M8 from someone. Everything works fine with the phone, there's nothing wrong with it at all. It's rooted and has s-off. I bought it that way. I asked the seller if he could unroot and take the phone back to full stock before the deal, but turns out he had someone else root and soff for him so he wasn't able to take it back to full stock. But he put the stock ROM back on it for me, though it's still rooted and has s off. I've provided pictures for those who are in the know to see for yourself, because I don't know what any of that software info means on those screens.
Here are my questions, and I'll put them in numerical format so there won't be any confusion in replying back:
1. From what you see in the pictures provided, are you able to to tell if it is in fact on the stock ROM or not?
2. I am receiving notifications that an official OTA update is available from Sprint/HTC:
A. What are the consequences of downloading and installing the OTA update(s)?
B. Will s-off be effected?
C. Will the root block the update from happening, or will it work fine since it's on stock ROM and has s-off?
D. Will it brick my phone if I update, or is there a chance at all that my phone will get bricked or stuck?
3. If I want to revert my Sprint M8 back to full stock (unroot and s-on), or maybe even put on a different ROM, how can I go about doing it?
4. What benefits do I have in keeping my phone in the state that it is currently in, that is, having rooted and s-off? And how can I take advantage of those benefits?
5. If I want to flash a different ROM or revert back to full stock (unroot and s-on), will it delete everything off my phone, including specifically my synced Gmail accounts?
6. As you can see in the picture with the 3 Android figures, at the top it says "tampered" and "unlocked." Does the "unlocked" mean that the phone is fully unlocked and can be used on any other service provider network, domestically and internationally?
Sorry about the length of this message, but I know there are some knowledgeable people on here who have wisdom and experience on the issue, so I would greatly appreciate any productive and helpful replies to my questions. If you have any questions for clarification please feel free to ask. Thanks!
If you choose recovery from the menu option in your first screenshot, what happens?
Captain_Throwback said:
If you choose recovery from the menu option in your first screenshot, what happens?
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Hi Captain. I haven't tried anything because I wanted to seek help first and get answers to my questions before doing anything. That would be much appreciated. I also didn't want to risk bricking since I don't know anything about this stuff. What is recovery, what is it supposed to do?
1. Yes, it appears to be a stock rooted ROM. Appears to be the first update. There have been two since, including the most recent one from this past week.
2.Your software & firmware version will be updated. S-off won't be affected. You simply have to have the stock recovery installed to take the OTA. Taking the OTA won't brick your phone.
3. You can revert to S-on but I'm not even sure why you'd want to. If you want to unroot simply take the OTA after installing the stock recovery.
4. Hit the second link in my sig for more info.
5. If you flash a different ROM yes, your phone will get wiped and you'll need to set up your accounts again. If you take a OTA update your data won't be affected.
6. "Unlocked" means your bootloader is unlocked, plain and simple. See my answer to question #4 for more info.
As far as what recovery is, think of it as a very small and separate OS from the Android OS. It allows for the flashing of .zip files (ROM's, kernels, mods, etc.). It also allows you to back up your entire phone to either the internal storage or micro-SD card, among other things.
Take a look at this thread if you haven't already.
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1. Yes, it appears to be a stock rooted ROM. Appears to be the first update. There have been two since, including the most recent one from this past week.
2.Your software & firmware version will be updated. S-off won't be affected. You simply have to have the stock recovery installed to take the OTA. Taking the OTA won't brick your phone.
3. You can revert to S-on but I'm not even sure why you'd want to. If you want to unroot simply take the OTA after installing the stock recovery.
4. Hit the second link in my sig for more info.
5. If you flash a different ROM yes, your phone will get wiped and you'll need to set up your accounts again. If you take a OTA update your data won't be affected.
6. "Unlocked" means your bootloader is unlocked, plain and simple. See my answer to question #4 for more info.
As far as what recovery is, think of it as a very small and separate OS from the Android OS. It allows for the flashing of .zip files (ROM's, kernels, mods, etc.). It also allows you to back up your entire phone to either the internal storage or micro-SD card, among other things.
Take a look at this thread if you haven't already.
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Thank you very much Magnum_Enforcer for the detailed and organized response. I will definitely be looking into the links you've mentioned/provided. Ideally, it would be great if I can somehow keep it rooted and have s-off while being able to take OTA updates. From that point I clean learn about and use the benefits from it being rooted with s-off, although I need to keep my Google accounts synced, so no flashing of ROMs for me.
So after reading your reply, I went ahead and tried taking the OTA, and after it turned off, it loaded up in the screen in the pic I've attached to this message. I'm assuming it doesn't seem I have the stock recovery as you said is required to take the OTA. How do I get the stock recovery on my phone in place of this "Team Win Recovery Project" recovery so that I can be able to take the OTA update properly? And will removing the current recovery and putting on the stock recovery effect s-off, root, or my synced accounts in any way?
P.S. I see you're in Birmingham. I actually grew up all over B'ham. Which part of town are you from?
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Thank you very much Magnum_Enforcer for the detailed and organized response. I will definitely be looking into the links you've mentioned/provided. Ideally, it would be great if I can somehow keep it rooted and have s-off while being able to take OTA updates. From that point I clean learn about and use the benefits from it being rooted with s-off, although I need to keep my Google accounts synced, so no flashing of ROMs for me.
So after reading your reply, I went ahead and tried taking the OTA, and after it turned off, it loaded up in the screen in the pic I've attached to this message. I'm assuming it doesn't seem I have the stock recovery as you said is required to take the OTA. How do I get the stock recovery on my phone in place of this "Team Win Recovery Project" recovery so that I can be able to take the OTA update properly? And will removing the current recovery and putting on the stock recovery effect s-off, root, or my synced accounts in any way?
P.S. I see you're in Birmingham. I actually grew up all over B'ham. Which part of town are you from?
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That's why I asked you to select recovery in the first place. I could've told you whether it would've worked based on that.
I recognize you wanted answers to your questions, but in order to give you the most complete and accurate answer, all I asked was for you to check your recovery.
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That's why I asked you to select recovery in the first place. I could've told you whether it would've worked based on that.
I recognize you wanted answers to your questions, but in order to give you the most complete and accurate answer, all I asked was for you to check your recovery.
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There's no need for quarrel or to take anything personal. It's not as if I ignored you, I replied back to you. I'm here to seek answers and help, I've no interest in disagreements. Sorry if you feel that way. I'm sure you're quite knowledgeable and experienced enough to have been able to tell me the same, if not more. The response I received from Magnum just happened to be complete and informative enough to me to let me know it was ok to try it out. I like to know at least a little about what I'm doing before jumping into something. That's just the way I am, people are different.
I sought help again in my last response though, and if you're still interested in helping, it would be appreciated. If not, I would understand, no worries or hard feelings.
You won't be able to take the OTA with TWRP installed. You can find the stock recovery in the first post of the link below. There are also instructions on how to install it. Once installed you can boot back to the OS and take the OTA.
Stock Backups + OTA's
To answer your other question, I've lived in several different places all over the state over the years but now live in the northern part of Jefferson county, outside of the city of Birmingham (you couldn't pay me to live in the city limits of B'ham).
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Okay, so being the wise person that I am, I decided that it would be a good idea to get the 4.2.2 sense update a few days/weeks before my carrier (Rogers) pushes it. I'll write it step by step, in case anyone can help me
- I started by making an ADB Backup, rooting the phone, and installing twrp recovery. No issues there
- When the phone started back up, I tried to restore my data, but the adb backup kept getting stuck on "com.Android.contacts" or something similar, so I decided I might as well try getting S-Off so I could change CID and get the 4.2.2 update.
- I used Revone, but it kept failing (error code -1). I posted in that thread about it, but I decided that in the mean time, I would just factory reset my phone.
I stupidly clicked "format" in twrp!
Now, my phone is on twrp with no OS. I tried downloading the rogers rom from HTC Dev, but it was a Zip file, and it won't install. I restarted the phone, and now I can't push anything to it. It says "error: device not found" when I try push the European 1.28 RUU (which I'm not sure if that would even work, because of CID/MID differences since the phone isn't S-Off.
Any help would be greatly appreciated :crying:
Okay, So I finally got the European RUU to push to the phone, only to realize that it's a ".exe" that can't be flashed from twrp. I have no access to a PC
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Okay, So I finally got the European RUU to push to the phone, only to realize that it's a ".exe" that can't be flashed from twrp. I have no access to a PC
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Just flash any stable ROM in the meantime so you can at least boot the phone. Download ARHD, push the zip to your phone, and flash that.
I really don't understand all these people changing CIDs to force updates, especially when they go back to s-on afterward. You're locking your phone into a potentially problematic configuration. I helped another guy this morning who did it and then couldn't boot up but couldn't fix anything because he went back to s-on and locked bootloader.
If you want 4.2.2, do it the right way: S-off, flash firmware, flash rom. If you want stock, there are stock roms. All of this can be done on a Mac.
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I really don't understand all these people changing CIDs to force updates, especially when they go back to s-on afterward. You're locking your phone into a potentially problematic configuration. I helped another guy this morning who did it and then couldn't boot up but couldn't fix anything because he went back to s-on and locked bootloader.
If you want 4.2.2, do it the right way: S-off, flash firmware, flash rom. If you want stock, there are stock roms. All of this can be done on a Mac.
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Well, I flashed CM 10.1, and finally managed to get S-Off. Now my issue is trying to go back to stock HTC Firmware. I can only get the RUU, which obviously doesn't work on Mac. Even If could extract the Zip, I have twrp recovery. How would I go back to a stock recovery that would allow me to get the OTA? I'm really upset about this whole thing. I mean, come on. HTC should've provided a Mac utility that allows users to go back to stock completely. I understand that they give you warnings about doing this kind of stuff, but I should be able to play around with my device and still be able to get it back to a functional factory state. I got iOS 7, and it was incredibly easy to go back. I've upgraded my Blackberry Z10 a 100 times with firmware from all over the world with no issues. I've also never had to deal with this S-crap stuff on my Nexus 4. It's just frustrating for end users.
Anyways, rant aside, would you happen to know how I can go back to a full factory state? I'm on CM 10.1 right now with twrp recovery.
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Well, I flashed CM 10.1, and finally managed to get S-Off. Now my issue is trying to go back to stock HTC Firmware. I can only get the RUU, which obviously doesn't work on Mac. Even If could extract the Zip, I have twrp recovery. How would I go back to a stock recovery that would allow me to get the OTA? I'm really upset about this whole thing. I mean, come on. HTC should've provided a Mac utility that allows users to go back to stock completely. I understand that they give you warnings about doing this kind of stuff, but I should be able to play around with my device and still be able to get it back to a functional factory state. I got iOS 7, and it was incredibly easy to go back. I've upgraded my Blackberry Z10 a 100 times with firmware from all over the world with no issues. I've also never had to deal with this S-crap stuff on my Nexus 4. It's just frustrating for end users.
Anyways, rant aside, would you happen to know how I can go back to a full factory state? I'm on CM 10.1 right now with twrp recovery.
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Without a PC to run the RUU, I'm not sure. You can flash stuff, but if you want to be out of the box stock, you need a RUU.
I finally managed to get my phone to work. In case anyone comes across this, I'll write down what I did.
I had too many problems to list. From not being able to access adb on the phone, to the phone's memory being partitioned incorrectly, to the point where even a recovery like twrp couldn't format or access it in order to flash anything ("Unable to mount internal storage").
The solution to all problems (and if you're a Mac user like I am, this is disheartening), is that you'll need to run RUU on a PC. When doing this, you'll likely run into a few error messages.
Error 170: Make sure the device is in fastboot mode before plugging it in (hold power and volume down on boot, and select fastboot with the power button). You can make sure that the computer can see it by going to your device manager in windows, and make sure that it says "My HTC" under "Android Device." If it has a cryptic name with an exclamation mark, or you can't see it by using "fastboot devices" command, you'll continue to get that error.
Error 171: This error kept occuring when the computer could no longer see the phone after the process had already begun. The reasons this happens are many (ie your USB wire or drive might be faulty), but to me, it was because the phone was not going back to the bootloader on its own, and the computer eventually gave up. To solve this, start RUU.exe and WAIT BESIDE IT. You will come across 2 points where it says waiting for bootloader. Have your computer's device manager open, and hold the phone's power button until you see that the "Android Device" or "My HTC" disappears and reappears. RUU should continue when that happens. Again, you will have to do this twice! If you don't, RUU gives up on the phone as it does not go into the bootloader by itself, and will eventually give you an error.
For anyone going through this, just realize that as long as you can get into the bootloader, there's always a way to get it to work. At times, I thought my phone was completely bricked, but no matter what issue you have (including unable to access the phone's internal memory), you can always solve it if you can get into the bootloader. With that said, this process will erase everything on your phone, unfortunately. Everything is done at your own risk, so please don't blame those who are trying to help you. Good luck, and remember to always post your solution online, if you start a topic discussing the issue. I came across many people with the same issue who never came back with their solution!
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Not that it has happened to me but I think you could have just sideloaded a custom Rom from twrp and flashed that.
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I tried, but I'm unable to do it. Due to the low post count, perhaps? :S
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Not that it has happened to me but I think you could have just sideloaded a custom Rom from twrp and flashed that.
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That was one of the first things I tried. It kept coming back with "unable to mount internal storage" or something like that, as I noted earlier. It was really weird, I couldn't format, mount, or do anything to my storage with tarp, and I couldn't get adb to see the phone. A lot of people have the issue with the One X, but I couldn't find a solution anywhere. I think what made the whole thing trickier than it needed to be is the fact that I changed my CID/MID, and in that guide, it is explained that you have to reboot the phone yourself in RUU, but I didn't realize not doing so would result in errors. I kept thinking it was because my device wasn't being seen in adv, so I was trying to get it to boot into any ROM for that to happen, and the inability to flash anything due to the internal storage error really complicated things. It's good to know that even this can be resolved, as I had all but convinced myself that I was dealing with a brick. I hope anyone coming across this issue in the future can benefit from my ordeal.
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I tried, but I'm unable to do it. Due to the low post count, perhaps? :S
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Click edit on the OP, then Go Advanced. You should be able to edit the title at the top.
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Click edit on the OP, then Go Advanced. You should be able to edit the title at the top.
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Done. Thanks!
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That was one of the first things I tried. It kept coming back with "unable to mount internal storage" or something like that
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That's normal since android 4.1 because the sd card is not a fat partition anymore, did you follow this guide?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325853
Sooooo today I read this article (http://www.androidcentral.com/google-play-edition-htc-one-bootloader-and-recovery-now-available) and I was siked to try to get vanilla android on my One. Unfortunately, I'm no whiz when it comes to these things and usually just try and follow step by step directions I find on forums. I found this page (cdforum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316726) and in all my excitement I completely missed where it said S-off is required and began the process. Booted the phone into bootloader, flashed the zips, and ended up with "error: cannot load 'descenpet_HBOOT_1.54_2.24_MOD'. Now I'm stuck with my phone still plugged into my computer only showing the black screen with the HTC logo. I read on to find out if I mess with it anymore it could possibly be bricked...not something I want.
Some quick facts, it's running stock sense software which came on it when I bought it and I rooted it a month or two ago. I hadn't even upgraded the software version to .10 (instead I still have the .7 at the end). Any kind of help would be great and please feel free to ask questions because I'm completely out of my element here and I don't what else you guys need to know in order to help me out. Thanks anyways!
its a bad idea to flash GSM firmware onto a CDMA phone... I would just RUU the whole thing back to stock
RUU may be your best option, but if you managed to flash the modified hboot/bootloader with S-ON you may be hosed OP. S-ON won't let the tampered boot-time code run if you overwrote it. Look in the forums for the RUU guide (search tool) and give it a go, but it doesn't look great.
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Sooooo today I read this article (http://www.androidcentral.com/google-play-edition-htc-one-bootloader-and-recovery-now-available) and I was siked to try to get vanilla android on my One. Unfortunately, I'm no whiz when it comes to these things and usually just try and follow step by step directions I find on forums. I found this page (cdforum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316726) and in all my excitement I completely missed where it said S-off is required and began the process. Booted the phone into bootloader, flashed the zips, and ended up with "error: cannot load 'descenpet_HBOOT_1.54_2.24_MOD'. Now I'm stuck with my phone still plugged into my computer only showing the black screen with the HTC logo. I read on to find out if I mess with it anymore it could possibly be bricked...not something I want.
Some quick facts, it's running stock sense software which came on it when I bought it and I rooted it a month or two ago. I hadn't even upgraded the software version to .10 (instead I still have the .7 at the end). Any kind of help would be great and please feel free to ask questions because I'm completely out of my element here and I don't what else you guys need to know in order to help me out. Thanks anyways!
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you may just need to flash the kernel for .10, don't know your whole situation.
Hi there,
I have searched high & low on the interwebs for a possible solution to my problem but have yet to yield any significant results.
I was on 4.2.2 Stock, Rooted, with bulletproof, and I had started to get random reboots and then 4 nights ago during the night it decided to get into a reboot loop. It would power up for about 20 mins and then restart again & again so when I woke up it was super hot.
So I thought it was time to update it to 4.3 now in the hope that this would resolve the issue but it didn't. I obtained the relevant RUU (Guru Reset M7 2.24.980.2 for HTC__039) from htc1guru and since I was only wanting to get the OTA in the hope that this would fix any other software issues, I only flashed the recovery. I then proceeded to do the large OTA update. This was successful. Then the reboots started again.
Time for a factory reset now, (which I realise I should have just done in the first place) but after setting up my details in the phone I am unable to get network over 3G/4G and when I go into look at the APNs, it says that no sim card is installed when it definitely is. When I go into Phone Info, it states that my EMEI is 00000000.
After looking around for what feels like hours, I read somewhere that I might need to flash the radio but I only have the radio from the previous RUU(Guru Reset M7 2.24.980.2) or can I use that since I can not find anything around RUUs for 3.63.980.2.? I don't want to make the situation any worse than it already is.
I am hoping that there is a simple explanation and fix & any help or guidance would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance :good:
So you think the problem is that your software is upgraded and not your firmware? If so, you can solve that by dowgrading your software. If you can't find an updated RUU (nothing except a signed file from HTC should be called a RUU), there is still a solution:
- Find a system dump from a phone that is your CID and the version of Android you want. It will be a CWM or TWRP backup.
- Flash the appropriate custom recovery.
- Push the files to your phone in the appropriate directory (you may need to make a backup just to see what the right directory is).
- Restore the backup you just pushed to your phone.
Then factory reset and install the stock recovery. You may need to re-lock the bootloader (I'm not sure). Try to get the correct OTA. If you can't find it, try to download one and save as /sdcard/update.zip. Use the stock recovery to flash it. (You'll need to search for instructions on how to do that. It involves key combinations.) Finally, unlock the bootloader, make a backup, and (optionally) root. Don't install a custom kernel. If your problem persists, you likely have a hardware problem.
Thanks for your reply.
I have no idea if its software/firmware but its showing its on 4.3. I was speculating on the radio possibly needing to be reflashed due to one comment I read on a forum I randomly came across?
So I could use my very first backup I used through TWRP and push that to the phone?
While I am fairly new to Android(had to switch for the HTC ONE), I have been around idevices for a long time and have learnt to always keep multiple backups just in case
I left the bootloader unlocked as most guides say that you don't need to have it locked to get the OTA. I actually tried to find the manual OTA file and do it the way you suggested but at the time I had no luck.
I'll see what I can accomplish tonight.
Apologies on the noobness in regards to RUU.
Is it possible to use a RUU for lets say T-Mobile on an international variant? I see HTC released an RUU for T-Mobile for 4.3 but as far as I can see there isn't any others.
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So I could use my very first backup I used through TWRP and push that to the phone?
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That's the first thing I'd try, yes. But I'm guessing just as much as you are.
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That's the first thing I'd try, yes. But I'm guessing just as much as you are.
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Hahahaha Well I trust your guess way more then mine
Would I need s-off to copy the previous backup back onto the phone or would I only need s-off if I had to push something to system(which I do not need to do)?
I tried last night to run rumrunner and it continually failed and basically told me I had 2 different scenarios to resolve it(the following is coming from memory and its very hazy). One was to use a different kernel and the other was to use another ROM, but that wasn't the preferred option.
At work now so will try and restore my original backup tonight at home. Thanks for your help.
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Would I need s-off to copy the previous backup back onto the phone or would I only need s-off if I had to push something to system(which I do not need to do)? .
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Sorry for my late response. You only need s-off to flash firmware that is older, for a different phone CID, or modified by a third party. Or to change other hidden partitions, like to modify the "TAMPERED" flag or to change the CID. Unlocking the bootloader is for changing partitions from fastboot mode: recovery, and maybe also system and boot. You do not need an unlocked bootloader to change these partitions from recovery if you already have a custom recovery installed. (You can definitely modify system and boot, but I'm not sure about modifying recovery with a locked bootloader.)
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Sorry for my late response. You only need s-off to flash firmware that is older, for a different phone CID, or modified by a third party. Or to change other hidden partitions, like to modify the "TAMPERED" flag or to change the CID. Unlocking the bootloader is for changing partitions from fastboot mode: recovery, and maybe also system and boot. You do not need an unlocked bootloader to change these partitions from recovery if you already have a custom recovery installed. (You can definitely modify system and boot, but I'm not sure about modifying recovery with a locked bootloader.)
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No need to apologise, I'm just happy that someone has been able to assist me.
I have used one of my previous TWRP backups, unfortunately I couldn't use my very very first one as it was missing some files, it obviously didn't copy it all across for some reason
I now have my EMEI back (woohoo) but I think the backup I used has something wrong in the kernel as I think it has bulletproof installed. I am going to return it to stock but following a procedure here as I need to return it to HTC as the phone will not read any sim cards. I have tried 3 different sim cards and have also tested them in a firends HTC ONE and they all work in his. SO it looks like I do have an actual hardware issue with the phone which isn't cool just before Xmas.
I already have major withdrawals from being able to play ingress :crying:
Thanks heaps for your help.
Hi, I did a lot of things with my One Mini 2 and I actually really don't know what to do anymore... So much options and yet there always seems to be a problem. Let me explain everything.
What I did:
-flashed a custom rom, then went back to a stock rom of this forum
-flashed the dt2w kernel, it messed up my phone so I then flashed the liberty one, which worked
But with the liberty one I had some memory problems, for exemple I couldn't take screenshots... That's why I decided that I wanted to put my phone just as it was when I bought it, I really hope that's possible, by that I mean having official firmwares etc, therefore being able to do official upgrades from my phone (is that what OTA is?).
I looked on internet and it looks like what I need is RUU, as it includes everything (from what I understood)... I know a lot of threads were made about this, but quite a few months ago, so that's why I'm making a new one, and to make things clear.
Also, I downloaded an official kernel from htcdev.com, but each time I tried flashing it with TWRP, it "failed".
So, if you guys have an answer, solution or, in best case, the actual RUU, that would be great.
Thanx
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Hi, I did a lot of things with my One Mini 2 and I actually really don't know what to do anymore... So much options and yet there always seems to be a problem. Let me explain everything.
What I did:
-flashed a custom rom, then went back to a stock rom of this forum
-flashed the dt2w kernel, it messed up my phone so I then flashed the liberty one, which worked
But with the liberty one I had some memory problems, for exemple I couldn't take screenshots... That's why I decided that I wanted to put my phone just as it was when I bought it, I really hope that's possible, by that I mean having official firmwares etc, therefore being able to do official upgrades from my phone (is that what OTA is?).
I looked on internet and it looks like what I need is RUU, as it includes everything (from what I understood)... I know a lot of threads were made about this, but quite a few months ago, so that's why I'm making a new one, and to make things clear.
Also, I downloaded an official kernel from htcdev.com, but each time I tried flashing it with TWRP, it "failed".
So, if you guys have an answer, solution or, in best case, the actual RUU, that would be great.
Thanx
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Still no RUU's avaiable as HTC wont release them. your best option is to use TWRP backup and restore.
Original stock backup
Thank you, but my backup kind of disappeared... I saw your post where there was the "HTC Original Backup.zip", I tried to flash but again it failed... Am I supposed to flash it as a backup?
Linkalex1 said:
Thank you, but my backup kind of disappeared... I saw your post where there was the "HTC Original Backup.zip", I tried to flash but again it failed... Am I supposed to flash it as a backup?
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You need to send it as it is to your phone and use TWRP > restore. choose file and done.
Thanx so much for answering... I uses the backup you told me to. Although I had to use the "install" option instead of the backup one, it now works perfectly! But how do I know if my phone is "official"? Are the upgrades going to be made straight from the phone?
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Thanx so much for answering... I uses the backup you told me to. Although I had to use the "install" option instead of the backup one, it now works perfectly! But how do I know if my phone is "official"? Are the upgrades going to be made straight from the phone?
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Yes OTA updates should work just fine. just look for updates in settings>about >software update.
you may have one for polaris office.
Hi, I just want to check this too before I screw up wife's phone..
She has CM12 on her phone now as I replaced recovery as well as unlocking bootloader. Now she wants it back to stock as too many things crash on her. I get that I can install your backup but what worries me is that other posts have said you need the stock recovery to allow for OTA updates to work and the link to this no longer works.
She MUST have OTA updates or my balls will be removed, so can you please confirm this, but also explain why.
Thanks (on behalf of my testicles and unborn children!)
(Oh, and she wants it unrooted ant the bootloader relocked)
arm1e said:
Hi, I just want to check this too before I screw up wife's phone..
She has CM12 on her phone now as I replaced recovery as well as unlocking bootloader. Now she wants it back to stock as too many things crash on her. I get that I can install your backup but what worries me is that other posts have said you need the stock recovery to allow for OTA updates to work and the link to this no longer works.
She MUST have OTA updates or my balls will be removed, so can you please confirm this, but also explain why.
Thanks (on behalf of my testicles and unborn children!)
(Oh, and she wants it unrooted ant the bootloader relocked)
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Stock Recovery
To unroot just lock bootloader:
fastboot oem lock
(originally posted in the flashfire threads, but it was suggested I post here)
My apologies if this has already been covered (I could not find an answer in searching)
I appreciate that it can be dangerous to use flashfire to flash the bootloader partition and that one should use fastboot. My question is:
If I download a FW package and the bootloader has changed, what happens if I flash to the kernel, system, cache, vendor etc... and do not flash to bootloader and radio? Will the flash fail; will the phone soft brick; will nothing happen and I can go merrily along?
The question derives from this: If the phone can become unusable with a mismatched bootload and radio to the rest of the images, it would require to unpack the package and check for a version prior to flashing other partitions (so I assume). If I go that far, would it not be easier to not use flashfire and simply manually flash the required files when updates are available?
Thanks
N6, unlocked and rooted (previously always updating latest patches and rerooting myself (using TWRP), but wishing to try flashire)
RLBL said:
(originally posted in the flashfire threads, but it was suggested I post here)
My apologies if this has already been covered (I could not find an answer in searching)
I appreciate that it can be dangerous to use flashfire to flash the bootloader partition and that one should use fastboot. My question is:
If I download a FW package and the bootloader has changed, what happens if I flash to the kernel, system, cache, vendor etc... and do not flash to bootloader and radio? Will the flash fail; will the phone soft brick; will nothing happen and I can go merrily along?
The question derives from this: If the phone can become unusable with a mismatched bootload and radio to the rest of the images, it would require to unpack the package and check for a version prior to flashing other partitions (so I assume). If I go that far, would it not be easier to not use flashfire and simply manually flash the required files when updates are available?
Thanks
N6, unlocked and rooted (previously always updating latest patches and rerooting myself (using TWRP), but wishing to try flashire)
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it is really rare that a bootloader flash is required, and a radio update is never required. if you dont flash them, then you just dont flash them, thats all.
I'd add that going to a major update you'll want to pay close attention. The bootloader probably will need updating. e.g. lollipop to MM, the bootloader had to be updated.
The radio is optional and often with trial and error, you'll find a particular one that for your hardware, in your area, you get the best signal. There is a thread with N6 flashable radios here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3066052.
Had you posted that you had an N6 in your original post, I'd have helped you, because that's what I use
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I'd add that going to a major update you'll want to pay close attention. The bootloader probably will need updating. e.g. lollipop to MM, the bootloader had to be updated.
The radio is optional and often with trial and error, you'll find a particular one that for your hardware, in your area, you get the best signal. There is a thread with N6 flashable radios.
Had you posted that you had an N6 in your original post, I'd have helped you, because that's what I use
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both mm a lollipop, i never updated my bootloader. i did update it after mm though.
ktmom said:
I'd add that going to a major update you'll want to pay close attention. The bootloader probably will need updating. e.g. lollipop to MM, the bootloader had to be updated.
The radio is optional and often with trial and error, you'll find a particular one that for your hardware, in your area, you get the best signal. There is a thread with N6 flashable radios here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3066052.
Had you posted that you had an N6 in your original post, I'd have helped you, because that's what I use
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Oh That looks interesting. My Cellular signal sucks even though I am supposedly close to some towers. I am going to try using flashfire with these (hope I don't brick myself lol)
So I assume that when N comes out officially and I need to change bootloaders, I would do so via fasboot, then afterwards I can the the updates via fashfire.
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Oh That looks interesting. My Cellular signal sucks even though I am supposedly close to some towers. I am going to try using flashfire with these (hope I don't brick myself lol)
So I assume that when N comes out officially and I need to change bootloaders, I would do so via fasboot, then afterwards I can the the updates via fashfire.
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all the radios, and bootloaders, are available in flashable zip for here on xda as well. to flash via twrp recovery
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all the radios, and bootloaders, are available in flashable zip for here on xda as well. to flash via twrp recovery
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Cool... But I only used TWRP to flash the SU binaries to root. Now that I am rooted, I figured I could simply go back to stock recovery* and use flashfire going forward.
* I figured that because I had no other use for for a custom recovery presently, I may as well stay completely stock and rooted. Furthermore, from my understanding (which can be wrong) I no longer need a custom recovery to flash/install anything, as flashfire can do it all. Of course that brings one to ask "why am I rooted if I am staying stock?". I root my device so I can simulate a power button press without cancelling smart lock operations (either through tasker shell keyevent, gravity screen, or nova prime swipe gesture). I like not having to use the buttons on my phone
Why get rid of custom recovery? Just leave it and keep a backup on hand, then when there is an issue with basically anything you can just restore your backup instead of freaking out and running here using caps and exclamation marks asking how to fix.
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Why get rid of custom recovery? Just leave it and keep a backup on hand, then when there is an issue with basically anything you can just restore your backup instead of freaking out and running here using caps and exclamation marks asking how to fix.
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1 - why use a custom recovery if I do not need to (serious question, not being confrontational - see below)
2 - I totally know how to flash to whatever I want without using any toolkits (and ofc using a custom recovery)
3 - Why would one assume that one panics? (just because I have a low post count and admittedly an Android noob - N6 1st phone - does not mean I am an idiot)
4 - Considering I am not using custom ROMs and staying stock, I would think the likelihood of things going wrong is low (could be totally wrong there lol but I have done everything myself manually since the get go (never even taken an OTA for my upgrades), and never had 1 issue as of yet. This post was a general question in nature. It was not posted because I needed something to be fixed)
If I do not need it, why have it: I am experimenting to see if I can use FF completely stock (and rooted). Please provide some rationale as to why I should keep a custom recovery so I can evaluate (you may be 100% right). The point is: from my understanding one can use FF without a custom recovery so why not try... so far, so good.
On backups: be aware (not that you should care, but you did comment)... I have nothing on my phone that requires backing up at that... I can completely wipe the phone and it only takes time to do a google restore and I am back to where I am (been there, done that. Annoying for time though lol but I have no data on the phone safe from tasker profiles which are on my google drive and easily restored).
And what happens when you flash a bootloader and something screws up? You can't fix it from the stock recovery menu, now can you. So what not have something useful on the recovery partition for that 1 and 1000 chance something goes wrong.... Just my opinion, being I've been flashing phones since the first Android device was released on T-Mobile. The g1 (still have and still flash Roms
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RLBL said:
1 - why use a custom recovery if I do not need to (serious question, not being confrontational - see below)
2 - I totally know how to flash to whatever I want without using any toolkits (and ofc using a custom recovery)
3 - Why would one assume that one panics? (just because I have a low post count and admittedly an Android noob - N6 1st phone - does not mean I am an idiot)
4 - Considering I am not using custom ROMs and staying stock, I would think the likelihood of things going wrong is low (could be totally wrong there lol but I have done everything myself manually since the get go (never even taken an OTA for my upgrades), and never had 1 issue as of yet. This post was a general question in nature. It was not posted because I needed something to be fixed)
If I do not need it, why have it: I am experimenting to see if I can use FF completely stock (and rooted). Please provide some rationale as to why I should keep a custom recovery so I can evaluate (you may be 100% right). The point is: from my understanding one can use FF without a custom recovery so why not try... so far, so good.
On backups: be aware (not that you should care, but you did comment)... I have nothing on my phone that requires backing up at that... I can completely wipe the phone and it only takes time to do a google restore and I am back to where I am (been there, done that. Annoying for time though lol but I have no data on the phone safe from tasker profiles which are on my google drive and easily restored).
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1. the only one important thing about having twrp installed.. backups and restores. before dlashing or changing anything, i akways create a backup in twrp. if something doesnt work out, you can always restore your backup, as ive done many many times. its a quicky fix it.
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And what happens when you flash a bootloader and something screws up? You can't fix it from the stock recovery menu, now can you. So what not have something useful on the recovery partition for that 1 and 1000 chance something goes wrong.... Just my opinion, being I've been flashing phones since the first Android device was released on T-Mobile. The g1 (still have and still flash Roms
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I think that was the whole point of my post was it not? What happens if you DON'T flash a bootloader while using FF (but in the case where it did change)? And like I said, in the 1/1000 chance that something does go wrong and I did not have a backup: Flash the complete package via adb? Like I said, I have nothing to backup, thus nothing to recover. Not saying I shouldn't, just saying I don't. I only used TWRP to gain root access, nothing more (no custom ROMs, kernels, optimizations, anything on my phone...not even local app data saves - I am one of those old farts who uses their phone as a PDA with phone capabilities and that is it. All "data" is cloud based for calendar info etc.)
It was a relatively simple (general) question around some experimentation I am doing to see if it would work if one was completely stock (safe from root); did not think it would turn in an philosophical argument on whether or not one should use a stock recovery (which I have been using a custom up until yesterday, but was thinking about putting it back on this evening anyways, just because)
Anyways, got my answer... thx
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1. the only one important thing about having twrp installed.. backups and restores. before dlashing or changing anything, i akways create a backup in twrp. if something doesnt work out, you can always restore your backup, as ive done many many times. its a quicky fix it.
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Thanks!... Obviously when I do venture into more with the phone I will do that. Currently it is a work and personal device so the only thing I do is flash Google stock builds instead of waiting for OTAs. Not saying I should not have a backup, but I don't. Only once after the 1st flash I re-locked the bootloader (as per instructions). What I waste of time; but it did show me that in a non-efficient disaster recovery, I can get everything back to where I was.
A restore would have been efficient, but I have found that I really have nothing to back up.. yet.
I guess a (off-topic) question I have for you is: What and Why did things not work out? In my case where I am only flashing stock loads (not waiting for OTAs), what could one anticipate going wrong that a re-flash could not recover from, but a restore could? Example a write corruption of a partition and the only thing I can do is boot into recovery as my PC cannot see the phone via adb? Can something like that happen?
Backing up system is what saves your a**
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Backing up system is what saves your a**
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cool... but... what if you are stock? Save my ass from what? Will a (re)flash of stock binaries not suffice?
Look I appreciate I am sounding argumentative, but I am curious to understand what can happen and why. I can understand the "need" to do it if customizing a device etc... but I am very curious as to why if you are stock:
example:
A stock user unlocks his bootloader so they can flash files straight from google be it OTAs or the complete package. It is not listed anywhere to have a custom recovery in their instructions which would lead one to believe it is not required if flashing said files... I assume something could go wrong of course and the most efficient way is to do a restore from backup... but I also assume one could simply re-flash and start over.
I am not devaluating the merits of a custom recovery; I was just curious if one could use (easily) flash fire without one - and one can. The purpose of the question was two-fold:
- because I was flashing stock, then reflashing twrp to get root I found the process longer than it needed to be so I thought I could use flashfire and have it do it for me.
- then I realized that flashing re-roots as well so I did not need to flash the custom recovery to obtain root. I thought "hey what if I accidentally checked "recovery" and accidentally went back to stock. No harm done as I can move on and still be rooted.
Not sure my butt needs saving to ask. You may be doing something that having backups is a good and safe idea... what if you are not? No harm in still using a custom of course, but it was just a question (I ask such questions so I know in advance why something happened and what to do so I do not come running to forums in all caps as someone else said lol)
off topic: If one has nothing to backup, what is there to restore?
RLBL said:
cool... but... what if you are stock? Save my ass from what? Will a (re)flash of stock binaries not suffice?
Look I appreciate I am sounding argumentative, but I am curious to understand what can happen and why. I can understand the "need" to do it if customizing a device etc... but I am very curious as to why if you are stock:
example:
A stock user unlocks his bootloader so they can flash files straight from google be it OTAs or the complete package. It is not listed anywhere to have a custom recovery in their instructions which would lead one to believe it is not required if flashing said files... I assume something could go wrong of course and the most efficient way is to do a restore from backup... but I also assume one could simply re-flash and start over.
I am not devaluating the merits of a custom recovery; I was just curious if one could use (easily) flash fire without one - and one can. The purpose of the question was two-fold:
- because I was flashing stock, then reflashing twrp to get root I found the process longer than it needed to be so I thought I could use flashfire and have it do it for me.
- then I realized that flashing re-roots as well so I did not need to flash the custom recovery to obtain root. I thought "hey what if I accidentally checked "recovery" and accidentally went back to stock. No harm done as I can move on and still be rooted.
Not sure my butt needs saving to ask. You may be doing something that having backups is a good and safe idea... what if you are not? No harm in still using a custom of course, but it was just a question (I ask such questions so I know in advance why something happened and what to do so I do not come running to forums in all caps as someone else said lol)
off topic: If one has nothing to backup, what is there to restore?
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its all a matter of choice, period.
flashing stock, you dont need to do anything. flashing different mods, custom roms, gapps, or supersu, you need to use twrp recovery. you can even flash twrp to be permenant or flash twrp for a one time use. if you are flashing custom roms/mods regularly, its convieniant to have twrp, if your not it doesnt matter. but the one thing twrp is great for is backing up, in case. and you dont need many back ups, just one recent backup. so you can back up, then get rid of twrp until needed again. anyways, its all a personal choice, and thats all it is. for me, flashing twrp then leaving it makes sense, since ill never ever do anything stock. for you, you have your own needs and wants.
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its all a matter of choice, period.
flashing stock, you dont need to do anything. flashing different mods, custom roms, gapps, or supersu, you need to use twrp recovery. you can even flash twrp to be permenant or flash twrp for a one time use. if you are flashing custom roms/mods regularly, its convieniant to have twrp, if your not it doesnt matter. but the one thing twrp is great for is backing up, in case. and you dont need many back ups, just one recent backup. so you can back up, then get rid of twrp until needed again. anyways, its all a personal choice, and thats all it is. for me, flashing twrp then leaving it makes sense, since ill never ever do anything stock. for you, you have your own needs and wants.
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Thank you for answering the question.
I figure when this phone (or whichever phone) is not my daily driver and no longer linked to sensitive stuff I will start venturing into the domain of custom ROMs and Kernels.
RLBL said:
Thank you for answering the question.
I figure when this phone (or whichever phone) is not my daily driver and no longer linked to sensitive stuff I will start venturing into the domain of custom ROMs and Kernels.
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custom recoveries just make things easier for you, overall, to do stuff. but kernels, that could be the bomb. but you will need to learn about how to use governors/schedulers to make any kind of headways. for example, i use a completely different governor/scheduler(ondemand/deadline) than any other nexus kernel, and i feel that my way makes my phone much better/faster than any other setup. and thats whats important to me
Update: test passed (I knew it would)
With a stock recovery, I was able to use flashfire and upgrade to the latest update and re-root.