Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
Wow. Am I the only one on here who's having this problem?? Lucky me, I guess... :S
Anyway, I just tried connecting to a public and open wifi network here in SF, but my Kaiser still wouldn't connect. Guess that confirms it: my WiFi adapter is defective.
Anyone know if I can get it replaced in a different store from where I purchased it, and what I need to take (hope it's just the phone)?
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Wow. Am I the only one on here who's having this problem?? Lucky me, I guess... :S
Anyway, I just tried connecting to a public and open wifi network here in SF, but my Kaiser still wouldn't connect. Guess that confirms it: my WiFi adapter is defective.
Anyone know if I can get it replaced in a different store from where I purchased it, and what I need to take (hope it's just the phone)?
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just tried my wifi on the tilt ... works fine out of the box (to my home secured wireless network)
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
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This is what I did. Start->settings->connections tab->WiFI. Now you should see your routers name there with the signal bar next to it. Tap AND Hold the name, then go to settings or edit(I forget), then click NEXT, uncheck the box that says "the key is automatically provided"(thats for open access routers/networks that dont require codes). Then type in your code & make sure you specify what key # it is. click next and youre done. You should be able to connect.
silly question here. is your router broadcasting 802.11b or g? the wifi won't connect to anything else.
You might also check your AP to see if it's not broadcasting its SSID to the world (a common security setting). I couldn't connect until I enabled broadcast on my AP, set the network up, and then went back and disabled SSID broadcast.
Why in the hell this is a problem in the first place is beyond me, but this is the third smartphone/PDA with wireless that I've had to do that for. And every time, once the device found the network once, it never had a problem finding it again.
Believe me. I tried everything in the WiFi settings page. I edited the settings, removed them and added them again, and like I said before I even went and changed my security settings on my router (which to answer your question, zeta, it broadcasts in: n, g, and b. Same router worked with my Apache/XV6700).
Anyway, I stopped by the store where I bought it today and they told me that as far as he can tell, that does qualify for a replacement. The problem is they don't have any in stock to replace it with, and he has no idea when they'll be getting more in. They only received 2 on launch day, and I bought one of those. He did mention that I can get it replaced at any store, however, but they all might be in the same boat.
Guess I'll try another store tomorrow, but if not I guess I'll have to go through AT&T's tech support (don't like the sound of that) and get it replaced through them. So I guess this means I might have a few days to mess around with the phone and even try some risky thangs.
So if any of you developers and hackers, er, I mean tweakers need some1 to test something, I can be that guinea pig (for a while at least)... Just give me a shout.
To troubleshoot your wireless connection always try ruling out as many other factors as possible. So put your router to NO security (temporarily ofcourse) and have it broadcast 802.11g. Also make sure you add the mac address of your device to the list in your router, if it uses mac address filtering. Try connecting to it with a laptop and see if that goes fine. Work systematically...
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You might also check your AP to see if it's not broadcasting its SSID to the world (a common security setting). I couldn't connect until I enabled broadcast on my AP, set the network up, and then went back and disabled SSID broadcast.
Why in the hell this is a problem in the first place is beyond me, but this is the third smartphone/PDA with wireless that I've had to do that for. And every time, once the device found the network once, it never had a problem finding it again.
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I have a similar Problem, your solution works partly for me:
As soon as I enable the AP to broadcast it's ID, Kaiser connects.
But as soon as the ID is hidden, it does not connect.
Weird.
Is it a security problem if the ID is broadcasted, provided I use WPA2-PSK/AES?
Thanks
V
No. Hiding the SSID really only protects you from folks that are wandering around without any tools. Open up a more fully featured scanner, and it'll pull the SSID out of the air. The encryption is much, much more important.
And I also wouldn't bother with MAC filtering. Changing the MAC address is usually a software setting, so it's not all that much additional security. WPA/WPA2 are much better solutions.
Yeah, the hidden SSID is not an issue with me, since I don't mind broadcasting it at home. Not too paranoid about it. If someone *really* wanted to sniff and break into my network, they could. Don't do much important and highly confidential stuff at home anyway.
Plus, like Perf mentioned, there's software out there, even for PocketPCs, that will find so-called "hidden" SSIDs. Thanks for your suggestions, anyway.
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Yeah, the hidden SSID is not an issue with me, since I don't mind broadcasting it at home. Not too paranoid about it. If someone *really* wanted to sniff and break into my network, they could. Don't do much important and highly confidential stuff at home anyway.
Plus, like Perf mentioned, there's software out there, even for PocketPCs, that will find so-called "hidden" SSIDs. Thanks for your suggestions, anyway.
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i had no issue connecting to my wrt54g running DD-WRT v23 SP2 with my SSID hidden with WEP enabled. when setting up a new connection, i just entered the name of the connection and then the WEP hex, and it connected flawlessly. Have fun hacking your phone until you can swap?
Mine is not working either. I exchanged the phone and found out that I was the 3rd person with the same problem.
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Mine is not working either. I exchanged the phone and found out that I was the 3rd person with the same problem.
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Glad to hear, I'm not the only one.
I exchanged my phone this morning, and I just tried connecting to my wireless network and guess what??
I'm getting the SAME RESULTS.
Now, before anyone goes and tells me that my router is the problem or that it's user error, then tell me: why does my laptop, PS3 and my Wii connect just fine?? I even changed the SSID and WPA key last night and they all connected w/o a problem as well. All except my freaking Tilt.
Can be it a coincidence that I got 2 bad phones? I don't know if I should call the store and tell them to hold up on sending the other phone to HTC.
Which reminds me, I probably should try calling HTC today, but I doubt they'll be much help...
I don't think you're nuts, and I doubt you got two bad phones. But if you want to double-check, take the phone to your local Starbucks or other shop with WiFi and see if it can detect that AP.
But at this point, I'd be inclined to look for a firmware upgrade for your AP. I could be that it's not supporting long or short preambles right (a problem for some devices in the past), doesn't like seeing more than XXX different devices, or just doesn't like your phone much.
Either way, I'm smelling an issue with your AP. I had a US Robotics AP/Router that drove me nuts because it would spontaneously reboot after a random period any time an IPSec VPN was present.
try setting the power mode on best performance. when i do that i stay connected to wifi.
I took both my old I730 and my tilt to the coffee shop before I returned my first tilt. I was able to connect my I730 at the coffee shop and home, but couldn't connect the tilt at either place. I also tried some open AP's in my neighborhood that I have been able to connect to in the past with the same results. Picky phone or bad wifi radios maybe.
Jesus... like the bloke said:
1) Turn off wpa and see if it will connect (it will unless you have set your N router to only use "n") If it won't then send it back.
2) If it does... then turn on WEP 128bit on your router... and use that instead.
WM devices have always had problems with WPA...
Hi all.
I have tried my HTC TyTN II with one Wifi LinkSys WAG54GS Router using WPA and not hidding the SSID and works fine, no problem at all.
Test with one AP from DLink at the office, using hidden SSID and WEP 64 and 128 Bits and no problem at all, works as fine as my LinkSys.
I'm going to try hidde the SSID at home with WPA and WPA2 and post the results later to know if there is a common issue with Kaiser or some freaky coincidence.
Regards.
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
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I found that I couldn't get my Kaiser to connect to my WPA encrypted LAN - open access and WEP (64 and 128 bit) work fine.
Not sure what the problem is - maybe some incompatibility between the Kaiser and my Netgear router. I've downgraded the security to 128bit WEP for the time being but I'm hoping that there's a fix soon.
When I turn on my phone at work, the wireless connection (open unsecured) connects and works for a few minutes. After some time, it disconnects and without rebooting my phone, I cannot establish a wlan connection.
This is oly the case at work. At home it works flawlessly, but it is another network kind.
Anyone found a solution to this problem? I saw a lot of threads about this but no good answers.
I am using duttys v3.
Not sure. Perhaps there is some sort of time out on your work network for inactive devices, or dhcp ip releases or something weird and "networky" like that?
Or perhaps your phone is going into a power save mode if you are not using it?
Just general ideas, I don't have this particular problem
I dont think many people have this issue! you must not have a setting correct, try downloading KaiserTweak and adjusting the timeout and also take a look at the routers settings I find it strange that a business would have an open network for security issues
austinsnyc said:
I dont think many people have this issue! you must not have a setting correct, try downloading KaiserTweak and adjusting the timeout and also take a look at the routers settings I find it strange that a business would have an open network for security issues
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I work at the university, and the network is unsecure. You have to enter login and pass at a webpage to gain access.
I cannot reconnect at all once ive been disconnected. So it should have anything to do with kaisertweak or timeouts.
I have tried every setting and combination. I have tried to select work/internet settings. Ive tried to tell the phone its a hidden network / not hidden network. I have tried to use power save / performance mode. Ive tried to turn off 3g, bluetooth, phone (everything basically).
When I tap connect, it says connecting and then it immediately goes to "active" and tries to connect to another network (which I dont have access to).
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When I turn on my phone at work, the wireless connection (open unsecured) connects and works for a few minutes. After some time, it disconnects and without rebooting my phone, I cannot establish a wlan connection.
This is oly the case at work. At home it works flawlessly, but it is another network kind.
Anyone found a solution to this problem? I saw a lot of threads about this but no good answers.
I am using duttys v3.
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I have worked out the problem.. first if its a WPA enterprise connection, make sure its set to WORK and not INTERNET setting. it will work. my only works with schaps versions not duttys
on my old pda (Acer N50 premium) I had the same problem with my unis network... it would only work (if at all) for a few minutes then nada... but at home it was absolutely fine, quick stayed on and totally responsive... I wonder if it has something to do with the rubbish way unis run their IT...?
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Many do not have this issue.
According to what's being said here by the indiviuals with issues, you're having problems connecting to a certain network...not all networks.
If it were all networks; your device, settings, equipment or rom would be the common denomenator. Since it's one network, it's that network.
Just because a network is or appears to be available, that doesn't mean that you can connect to it.
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Many do not have this issue.
According to what's being said here by the indiviuals with issues, you're having problems connecting to a certain network...not all networks.
If it were all networks; your device, settings, equipment or rom would be the common denomenator. Since it's one network, it's that network.
Just because a network is or appears to be available, that doesn't mean that you can connect to it.
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no, it could be the phone software. Lets says that a string is added to the registry if the network you are connected to disconnects you; a string that makes the phone cancel connections to the network. And lets assume that the network disconnected you because there is a hidden firewall in the phone software that blocks ping requests, thus making the network believe that the connection is lost and thus disconnecting you. Then we have a moment 22, which is basically something wrong with the phone.
As some readers already pointed out in this "wasted thread", when changing the rom (in one case) or when changing settings from "internet" to "work" (in the second case) there is a great possibility that this problem in fact has to do with phone software and not network.
In my case, it just happens to be neither of the mentioned solutions or any solution that I have found in other threads.
One thing you may want to check is that your wifi is set to max performance. The issue may also be that there is a DNS cache issue, in most cases it can be resolved by manually reconfiguring the connection.
I have been successful in configuring my phone's WLAN to connect to everything from open APS's, WEP, WPA, RADIUS and AP's with proxy redirects, so I can tell you that as with most cases, it's human error.
I have tried max performance.
How do I resolve a dns cache issue? Manually reconfiguring the network did not help (only thing that helps is a reboot).
seattleweb said:
One thing you may want to check is that your wifi is set to max performance. The issue may also be that there is a DNS cache issue, in most cases it can be resolved by manually reconfiguring the connection.
I have been successful in configuring my phone's WLAN to connect to everything from open APS's, WEP, WPA, RADIUS and AP's with proxy redirects, so I can tell you that as with most cases, it's human error.
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Hello all,
I have a WIFI network at home that is hidden, which means that he SSID is not broadcast into the world. You have to know it to connect to it, and I also made it very long.
This is not a problem on my laptop, which connects fine, if slow sometimes.
However, on my kaiser, this gives serious problems.
The first day i got it I happily entered all the required settings (SSID, WPA-PSK, network key etc) and pling! I was connected. Yesterday evening however I noticed that all those settings were gone! I entered them again but couldn't connect. And presto, settings were gone again!
Why doesn't it remember the settings I punch in? Is there any way to enforce this?
Thanks,
Philbert
philbertz said:
Hello all,
I have a WIFI network at home that is hidden, which means that he SSID is not broadcast into the world. You have to know it to connect to it, and I also made it very long.
This is not a problem on my laptop, which connects fine, if slow sometimes.
However, on my kaiser, this gives serious problems.
The first day i got it I happily entered all the required settings (SSID, WPA-PSK, network key etc) and pling! I was connected. Yesterday evening however I noticed that all those settings were gone! I entered them again but couldn't connect. And presto, settings were gone again!
Why doesn't it remember the settings I punch in? Is there any way to enforce this?
Thanks,
Philbert
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Strange, because mine retains the settings of any hidden WiFi network that I've put in there.
hello
i use WPA/PSK-TKIP encryption on my router.
at wifi settings in kaiser, you have to add your hidden ssid name, and check "this is a hidden network" checkbox.
it works for me fine
(ps.: i use MAC addrass filter on my router, my pda, notebook and PC's MAC's are added to my router, and they only have access to my router' internet.)
philbertz said:
Hello all,
I have a WIFI network at home that is hidden, which means that he SSID is not broadcast into the world. You have to know it to connect to it, and I also made it very long.
This is not a problem on my laptop, which connects fine, if slow sometimes.
However, on my kaiser, this gives serious problems.
The first day i got it I happily entered all the required settings (SSID, WPA-PSK, network key etc) and pling! I was connected. Yesterday evening however I noticed that all those settings were gone! I entered them again but couldn't connect. And presto, settings were gone again!
Why doesn't it remember the settings I punch in? Is there any way to enforce this?
Thanks,
Philbert
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This is a bug within MS WM OS, not a problem with your device or anything HTC have done. It should hopefully be resolved in 6.1 (hopefully!)
I've seen it on my own unit at times. If the unit has trouble connecting to the access point and there can be many reasons for this, WM gives a 'burp' and settings are lost.
Try updating your router firmware or use AES encryption instead of TKIP as some earlier versions of TKIP are not fully compatible (Linksys is a prime example).
Thanks
Thanks for replying everyone.
I just switched on my wifi and it immediately found my network, without the need for inputting my settings. I think this problem occurs only when the handshake with the network times out for some reason.
So that makes it only a nuisance that appears sometimes, not a disaster.
Thanks,
Philbert
OK, so it's a Vodafone upgrade, plenty of data avail, on contract, in UK, just cannot get these to work!!
Huawei to Windows 7 Laptop
Huawei to HTC ONE M9
Huawei to Samsung Galaxy S2
All say connected, but Internet is not getting to the tethered devices, P10 also says no data used whilst USB tethered or Hot Spotted!!
I follow the screen instructions to the letter, but as I say, they connect, but Internet just isn't there....
Pulling my hair out!! Help!!
Cheers
Karl
I don't know if you ever solved your problem, but I hit the exact same brick wall trying to get wifi tethering to work, hope this may help someone else.
My phone is Huawei P10 lite, and network also Vodafone.
I was able to narrow it down to an IP conflict issue: If I turn on wifi tethering I will lose internet on the phone and connected phones will also not have internet available, obviously.
I tried changing the APN settings (Mobile Network and select your APN in use, then EDIT) and use for normal connections and roaming both IPv4 and IPv6 (the default is only IPv4), and that allowed me to be able to use internet on my phone with tethering on; however connected phones still do not receive a valid IP and aren't able to connect to my internet.
I finally managed to share my internet, but only using bluetooth tethering, not wifi (using the settings I mentioned above).
BTW: Using the exact same SIM card, on another phone, I have no issues whatsoever setting up a wifi hotspot to others. This happens only with this combination (Huawei + Vodafone)
Reset your apn settings
Same issue here with two new p10s and Vodafone. So it seems a bug in the tethering subsystem since one of them work only if you tether via Bluetooth and the other one just fails to bridge the network via its hotspot. Wondering if anyone here has managed to report the issue to Huawei/Vodafone and what was the outcome and/or reference to do a follow up. Best regards
Ok, I've got it working on one of the phone (missus not around but it should fix in the same way).
All I needed to do was to reset the APN to it defaults as described in the Vodafone forum.
Settings -> Mobile Network -> Access Point Name -> Three dots (upper right hand side on the screen) you will find the "reset to defaults" and that's how I fixed it!
You legend - that totally saved me doing a factory reset for which I shall be eternally grateful. Well.. At least til next week.