Does anyone know what Over-Counted is? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been seeing this in my battery stats and I have no clue what it represents. It just says over-counted...does anyone know what this is?
Thank you.

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What does GSam or BBS show?

Yep. It's what used to be called miscellaneous.
Basically the os cannot know how much battery has really been used.. It's all a calculated guess.
For example, there is a file that tells android how much power WiFi uses when connected.. Let's say that file says wifi uses 2mA when connected.. Let's say then that 10mA of battery has been used in total.. Android then works out that WiFi has used 20% of the battery.
Ok, let's now pretend that you are sat very far away from your WiFi router. It takes more power to maintain a connection. Let's pretend that it really used 3mA.. In reality the WiFi actually used 30% battery but it is reported (because of the file) that it used 20%. When android adds up everything in its file, (not just wifi) it can only find 90% of the battery used reasons, because it doesn't know about the extra 10% used by wifi, because it expects it to be 2mA not 3mA. So there is 10% of battery used "missing". This 10% needs to be recorded because the battery usage must always total 100% (even though it kind of doesn't work like that anymore)... So it records it as this stat.

As always much appreciated @danarama!

Pecata said:
As always much appreciated @danarama!
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No.probs.

Pecata said:
I have been seeing this in my battery stats and I have no clue what it represents. It just says over-counted...does anyone know what this is?
Thank you.
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do you experience any significant decrease in your battery life?? because i also have the same problem but i have not felt any significant decrease in the battery life.

Pecata said:
I have been seeing this in my battery stats and I have no clue what it represents. It just says over-counted...does anyone know what this is?
Thank you.
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I had the same issue on 6.0 with multiwindow activated by editing the build.prop to userdebug
As soon as i set ro.build.type back to user in build.prop it went away.

Funk Wizard said:
I had the same issue on 6.0 with multiwindow activated by editing the build.prop to userdebug
As soon as i set ro.build.type back to user in build.prop it went away.
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Thanks Man! I was troubled over this stat for some days and i dont even use the multiwindow since it is so buggy... i totally forgot about this

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cell standby + phone idle?

I turned on my NC (autonooker + Dalingrin's OC 2.1 kernel) at 12am, turned off wireless and let it go to sleep.
15 hours later the battery drops by 3-4% -- not bad! But when I check "battery use" under setting I got
cell standby: 51%
softkeys: 41%
phone idle: 8%
Why would I have cell standby + phone idle, esp since wifi is off? Given the small amount of battery drop this is not a big deal, but I'm just curious.
BTW I am aware of the thread about phone.apk etc not affecting battery life. But according to "battery use" these two services(?)/programs do account for over half of my battery consumption.
Thanks!
The answer is in the other thread you said you are aware of.
RoboRay said:
The answer is in the other thread you said you are aware of.
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Sorry for being slow, but could you elaborate a bit on that? The thread I have in mind is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899861&highlight=phone.apk
The OP there provides data showing that there is no phone-related services running in the background (and so killing phone.apk etc does not do anything); there is no additional info in the remaining posts. On the other hand, according to
nookcolor tools>all settings>battery use
over a 20 hours period, 59% of the battery use of my NC (with wifi off) are attributed to cell-standby + phone idle,
which is why I'm puzzled.
Perhaps there's another thread I'm not aware of (I did search, but perhaps incorrectly), or perhaps I misunderstood something... Any suggestions/help to this noob is most appreciative.
THANKS!
case-sensitive said:
I turned on my NC (autonooker + Dalingrin's OC 2.1 kernel) at 12am, turned off wireless and let it go to sleep.
15 hours later the battery drops by 3-4% -- not bad! But when I check "battery use" under setting I got
cell standby: 51%
softkeys: 41%
phone idle: 8%
Why would I have cell standby + phone idle, esp since wifi is off? Given the small amount of battery drop this is not a big deal, but I'm just curious.
BTW I am aware of the thread about phone.apk etc not affecting battery life. But according to "battery use" these two services(?)/programs do account for over half of my battery consumption.
Thanks!
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'nuff said....
Even if there is no really battery usage with cellular standby, but in battery usage section, showing >50% by cellular standby confounds other battery usage stats like some really battery eater won't show because its percentage is too low.
Phone idle is something we can never get rid of, because that is what android refers to as the system. All of these builds of android assume they are on cellular devices, so they call themselves a "phone". So, when you see "phone idle", you can really mentally replace it with "system idle".
case-sensitive said:
Sorry for being slow, but could you elaborate a bit on that? The thread I have in mind is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899861&highlight=phone.apk
The OP there provides data showing that there is no phone-related services running in the background (and so killing phone.apk etc does not do anything); there is no additional info in the remaining posts. On the other hand, according to
nookcolor tools>all settings>battery use
over a 20 hours period, 59% of the battery use of my NC (with wifi off) are attributed to cell-standby + phone idle,
which is why I'm puzzled.
Perhaps there's another thread I'm not aware of (I did search, but perhaps incorrectly), or perhaps I misunderstood something... Any suggestions/help to this noob is most appreciative.
THANKS!
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After Autonooter 2.12.25 with the B&N 1.1.0 upgrade, I was getting around 8-10 hours of battery life. After renaming the phone and telephony files, this jumped to 4-5 days. Really! I don't care if anyone thinks it doesn't work, it worked for me. Want proof? I stopped carrying my charging cable around with me all the time.
Now that I'm on HC eMMC v4-2, I'm searching in earnest for a similar problem and solution. The same files are not in HC, but I'm working on identifying which ones will give me the same battery boost.
MNMichael said:
After Autonooter 2.12.25 with the B&N 1.1.0 upgrade, I was getting around 8-10 hours of battery life. After renaming the phone and telephony files, this jumped to 4-5 days. Really! I don't care if anyone thinks it doesn't work, it worked for me. Want proof? I stopped carrying my charging cable around with me all the time.
Now that I'm on HC eMMC v4-2, I'm searching in earnest for a similar problem and solution. The same files are not in HC, but I'm working on identifying which ones will give me the same battery boost.
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Something was wrong with your NC. In active use (on, reasonable screen, wifi connected, being used) is 8-10% per hour, when in standby it seems to be more like .2% per hour.
With or withour phone/mms etc apks...
MNMichael said:
Now that I'm on HC eMMC v4-2, I'm searching in earnest for a similar problem and solution. The same files are not in HC, but I'm working on identifying which ones will give me the same battery boost.
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HC is a tablet OS. It wont have phone.apk (IIRC).
khaytsus said:
Something was wrong with your NC. In active use (on, reasonable screen, wifi connected, being used) is 8-10% per hour, when in standby it seems to be more like .2% per hour.
With or withour phone/mms etc apks...
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^^^^^^^^^
What he said.
RoboRay said:
^^^^^^^^^
What he said.
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He's using HC, which sucks battery like crazy... No wonder he's having battery issues.
khaytsus said:
He's using HC, which sucks battery like crazy... No wonder he's having battery issues.
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For the less experienced...What does HC mean? I too am having high Idle and Cell Standby readings on a HTC Sensation
IFlip92 said:
For the less experienced...What does HC mean? I too am having high Idle and Cell Standby readings on a HTC Sensation
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HC means honeycomb.
Nburnes said:
HC means honeycomb.
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Oh, well then Im using the Gingerbread 2.3 android and my Idle and Cell Standby are higher than my Display usage how does that work?
IFlip92 said:
Oh, well then Im using the Gingerbread 2.3 android and my Idle and Cell Standby are higher than my Display usage how does that work?
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Those don't even matter on a device that doesn't have phone capabilities. This all was discussed months ago when the first nightlites appeared.
Nburnes said:
Those don't even matter on a device that doesn't have phone capabilities. This all was discussed months ago when the first nightlites appeared.
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Im sorry can you please elaborate your answer? Or point me to a thread in which I can read about this? Also what do you mean by "nightlites"? I dont frequent these forums so im not familiar with the lingo...
IFlip92 said:
Im sorry can you please elaborate your answer? Or point me to a thread in which I can read about this? Also what do you mean by "nightlites"? I dont frequent these forums so im not familiar with the lingo...
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Idle and Cell Standby appearing in your battery history is normal and nothing to worry about. It really isn't even draining the battery, they just come with having Phone and Messaging and all that jazz installed, which I would not mess with them. I personally just hide them thanks to Launcherpro.
As for nightlies, they are build built by Cyanogenmod build bot almost every night, that included fixes merged that day, as well as building upon the previous versions. These tend to be all testing builds, but at this point in development on the Nook, all nightlies are rather stable for everyday use.
You can follow the nightlies changelog here. http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=encore Encore is the code name for our Nook Colors.

[Q] Mobile Network Signal (Cell Standby) DRAIN

Hello guys I'm a newbie here so please do explain to me some of the stuff if you need to
so recently (about 2 weeks ago) I used this guide to root my Incredible S and did everything except the Blackrose part
and since then
I've noticed that my phone has drained its battery a lot quicker than usual
I lost 11% of battery when I woke up, fully charging it the night before
I usually do not use it much, only a call every 2 days or so, and I do not have internet connection
so I cannot understand how I have to charge it every day now, when it used to last 4 days (on Sense)
here's a pic from betterybatterystats
thanks everyone
------- 4/10 edit
ok
back to stock rom
it has the SAME problem
"No data connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" on Betterbatterystats
with steep drops in battery whenever there is "Mobile network signal"
and next to no drop whatsoever when there isn't
PLEASE HELP ><
new attachments down there with stock rom
tell me if you need a translation
THANKS
davidchuyaya said:
Hello guys I'm a newbie here so please do explain to me some of the stuff if you need to
so recently (about 2 weeks ago) I used this guide to root my Incredible S and did everything except the Blackrose part
and since then
I've noticed that my phone has drained its battery a lot quicker than usual
I lost 11% of battery when I woke up, fully charging it the night before
I usually do not use it much, only a call every 2 days or so, and I do not have internet connection
so I cannot understand how I have to charge it every day now, when it used to last 4 days (on Sense)
here's a pic from betterybatterystats
thanks everyone
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Battery drain has already been discussed much in the CM10.1 thread. Its been discussed in practically every AOSP thread really.
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Battery drain has already been discussed much in the CM10.1 thread. Its been discussed in practically every AOSP thread really.
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I know and I've tried to look around for answers for quite a few days
but for most people
it's either the same as Sense or something else (too many apps, not charging fully...)
and for those with similar conditions
I can't find solutions for
and the problem got worse today
in the 7 hours I slept yesterday
the battery drained from more than 50% to nothing
so the alarm didn't ring because it shut itself off
davidchuyaya said:
I know and I've tried to look around for answers for quite a few days
but for most people
it's either the same as Sense or something else (too many apps, not charging fully...)
and for those with similar conditions
I can't find solutions for
and the problem got worse today
in the 7 hours I slept yesterday
the battery drained from more than 50% to nothing
so the alarm didn't ring because it shut itself off
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The standard charging time isnt what it says on the box or anything. It should be roughly 6 hours from 0% to 100% and thats providing you plug it into an AC outlet. I would suggest trying an app called Greenify. It hibernates certain apps/ services that may not be in use thus saving battery. I would also regularly check the Running Apps in settings and clear out anything unecessary.
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The standard charging time isnt what it says on the box or anything. It should be roughly 6 hours from 0% to 100% and thats providing you plug it into an AC outlet. I would suggest trying an app called Greenify. It hibernates certain apps/ services that may not be in use thus saving battery. I would also regularly check the Running Apps in settings and clear out anything unecessary.
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nonono
I don't have a charging problem
it's a drainage problem
and about Greenify
I already installed that when I looked over the battery saving guide (which didn't help)
I literally have 5 apps in the Running Apps section
the part I don't get is
why does Cyanogenmod 10.1 use battery so much quicker than Sense
when I have 1/4 the apps I originally did?
it's the "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" part really bothers me.
oh and thanks for the time btw
davidchuyaya said:
nonono
I don't have a charging problem
it's a drainage problem
and about Greenify
I already installed that when I looked over the battery saving guide (which didn't help)
I literally have 5 apps in the Running Apps section
the part I don't get is
why does Cyanogenmod 10.1 use battery so much quicker than Sense
when I have 1/4 the apps I originally did?
it's the "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" part really bothers me.
oh and thanks for the time btw
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Hmm then this battery drainage is strange. Try making a full backup in recovery. Then clean flash the ROM again. If the problem still persists, then I have absolutely no idea whats wrong lol
072665995 said:
Hmm then this battery drainage is strange. Try making a full backup in recovery. Then clean flash the ROM again. If the problem still persists, then I have absolutely no idea whats wrong lol
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Actually
I tried that...
on Sunday afternoon I reflashed it
my exact steps:
1. ClockworkMod backup
2. Install from zip
3. Advanced restore - data (I restored the whole thing too once before that, but thought that just restoring the data might actually change something)
and that's when it went from 50% to 0 overnight
not looking too good -.-
davidchuyaya said:
Actually
I tried that...
on Sunday afternoon I reflashed it
my exact steps:
1. ClockworkMod backup
2. Install from zip
3. Advanced restore - data (I restored the whole thing too once before that, but thought that just restoring the data might actually change something)
and that's when it went from 50% to 0 overnight
not looking too good -.-
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Well then sit tight. Szezso is gonna release a CM10.1 for us as soon as he gets his new USB port.
oh well then
thanks for the help anyways
I'll just keep waiting
might want to go back to Sense though...
and more pics from BetterBatteryStats
just in case anyone knows what they mean
Drained 56% of my battery while I was asleep yesterday (for about 7 hours)
only 6% in the time I was at school, because of Airplane mode (I even listened to music and played a little Doodle Jump)
but I obviously want a phone to CALL PEOPLE
so I'm reverting to stock Rom
OK
so that didn't work out
I edited the main article
hope someone can help!!
meanwhile I'll look for more articles online since I know it's not (really) CM's problem anymore
thanks
Ensure to charge your mobile fully and after a NORMAL usage (calls, WiFi, Mobile Data on).
Just share the dump file from betterbatterystats. It would help to analyse better.
Edit:
Could notice you are using some widgets in the home screen. Usually widgets with high refresh rate drains your battery.
2. Facebook app is causing the partial wakelock. Even when the screen is off, the app is using your CPU. Try to disable autosync if it's enabled
3. Audio_out3 wakelock is due to phone vibrator is enabled. May be during call or keyboard haptic feature.
Power manager service wakelock is common and its in good level.
Try to check your CPU freq n governor.
And adjust accordingly. One more, Li-on battery should not be charged fully. Just charge till 85-90%. The battery will drain little lower compared to fully charged device. And you need to charge your device only when battery is low. Frequent charging n discharging will affect the battery life. Consistent Charge and discharge cycle is encouraged.
Try to share your fresh dump here or in batter battery status thread. There are many folks to help you with.
sent from CyberMachine
Cyb0rgz said:
Ensure to charge your mobile fully and after a NORMAL usage (calls, WiFi, Mobile Data on).
Just share the dump file from betterbatterystats. It would help to analyse better.
Edit:
Could notice you are using some widgets in the home screen. Usually widgets with high refresh rate drains your battery.
2. Facebook app is causing the partial wakelock. Even when the screen is off, the app is using your CPU. Try to disable autosync if it's enabled
3. Audio_out3 wakelock is due to phone vibrator is enabled. May be during call or keyboard haptic feature.
Power manager service wakelock is common and its in good level.
Try to check your CPU freq n governor.
And adjust accordingly. One more, Li-on battery should not be charged fully. Just charge till 85-90%. The battery will drain little lower compared to fully charged device. And you need to charge your device only when battery is low. Frequent charging n discharging will affect the battery life. Consistent Charge and discharge cycle is encouraged.
Try to share your fresh dump here or in batter battery status thread. There are many folks to help you with.
sent from CyberMachine
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Thanks for the detailed reply sir
My widgets (aka weather & tasks) only refresh manually, and nothing is on Autosync (in the auto sync menu, anyways)
originally had only vibration for calls, turned that off too now
and what is "CPU freq n governor"?
didn't know that about the batteries
I'll do that next time
and I just reinstalled betterbatterystats, so I'll post the Dump File after a few hours
Thanks again!!
davidchuyaya said:
Thanks for the detailed reply sir.
and what is "CPU freq n governor"?
didn't know that about the batteries
I'll do that next time
and I just reinstalled betterbatterystats, so I'll post the Dump File
Thanks again!!
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I mean CPU frequency steps and CPU governor. It's a kernel thing. Just search xda, you will lot of info regarding that.
Sure, post your dump with normal usage.
It's easy to click thanks rather than expressing in words
sent from CyberMachine
Cyb0rgz said:
I mean CPU frequency steps and CPU governor. It's a kernel thing. Just search xda, you will lot of info regarding that.
Sure, post your dump with normal usage.
It's easy to click thanks rather than expressing in words
sent from CyberMachine
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got it then
I'm going to install SetCPU
but because the RUU unrooted my phone, I'm going to have to root it again
meanwhile
the Dump File
***4/12 8:20PM edit
finished rooting, reinstalled stuff
I installed No-frills CPU Control instead
since it's free
but I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with it
am I suppose to just record the data and post it here?
Um...
guys?

[Q] Use root to solve cell standby battery drain?

Has anyone found a way to fix the cell standby battery drain with the new root powers that we have? I'm hoping we might get the 2 day battery life once that gets fixed. Thanks in advance!!
You can check wavelock, and look for culprit, app ops can help with permissions
I know cell standby battery drain mostly has to do with how good of a signal you got, but I agree that the drain is a little excessive even for bad reception... I am hoping for a workaround too. Maybe somehow making the antenna more efficient
Also I am not sure if there is a way to get a better radio image (idk if image is the right word) that is specific to your area... a way to manually update it? you may need BL unlock for that, but no idea really
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I know cell standby battery drain mostly has to do with how good of a signal you got, but I agree that the drain is a little excessive even for bad reception... I am hoping for a workaround too. Maybe somehow making the antenna more efficient
Also I am not sure if there is a way to get a better radio image (idk if image is the right word) that is specific to your area... a way to manually update it? you may need BL unlock for that, but no idea really
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You can check wavelock, and look for culprit, app ops can help with permissions
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cerice74 said:
Has anyone found a way to fix the cell standby battery drain with the new root powers that we have? I'm hoping we might get the 2 day battery life once that gets fixed. Thanks in advance!!
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Just wait for Lollipop update and it will be gone. With KitKat I had around 10% or more battery drain overnight, but now I'm having at most 1%-2% with the same synced settings, so it was a huge improve, believe me.
Also, as far as I know, Turbo will be updated directly to 5.1, so it would be better, but hope that Verizon crap-ware doesn’t ruin the update.
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Tremendous battery drain on WIFI

Hey guys, I am running stock 4.0.3 rooted with supersu and using the latest franco kernel. I am getting massive drains even while using the phone on wifi and keeping it on standby, while connected to wifi. Getting drains about 3.3-4% per hour on standby on wifi. This is absolutely crazy. I tried some older suggestions mentioned here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62074306&postcount=118 . But even that doesn't work. Battery drain is normal on mobile data, but when connected to wifi it absolutely goes crazy. Can anyone provide any insight? There are no rogue apps, I have been checking through better battery , wld , accu battery, etc.
You've probably already turned it off, but I'll just point it out in the rare instance, but make sure scanning is off. However, I did notice that you said it is when wifi is on and your phone is sleeping when you get that drain. A fix is to go into wifi settings and under "Keep Wi-fi on during sleep", pick the only plugged in option. Ideally, you should get to the bottom of this issue, but if you don't have the time and no one else figures it out, this may help.
EDIT: I wonder if smart wifi switcher has anything to do with it? Wifi connectivity fluctuates and if you have two connections that have very similar signal strength, would your phone constantly switch between the two networks in a futile manner? If this does happen, I can see that draining your battery significantly, but this is based on the premise that the switcher does not have some type of buffer zone where it does not switch if the difference is negligible.
Inflection said:
You've probably already turned it off, but I'll just point it out in the rare instance, but make sure scanning is off. However, I did notice that you said it is when wifi is on and your phone is sleeping when you get that drain. A fix is to go into wifi settings and under "Keep Wi-fi on during sleep", pick the only plugged in option. Ideally, you should get to the bottom of this issue, but if you don't have the time and no one else figures it out, this may help.
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Yep, I always keep scanning off! And i did try with that suggestion too, I changed the setting to never and it still drained battery. Wifi stayed on for sometime even though i set it to never and then finally turns off after a period of time, but i think that could potentially drain more battery? Are you using wifi all the time? What are your stats?
I have all those settings turned off, smart switcher, ipv6, scanning, etc
Anomaly65 said:
Yep, I always keep scanning off! And i did try with that suggestion too, I changed the setting to never and it still drained battery. Wifi stayed on for sometime even though i set it to never and then finally turns off after a period of time, but i think that could potentially drain more battery? Are you using wifi all the time? What are your stats?
I have all those settings turned off, smart switcher, ipv6, scanning, etc
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Last thing I can think of is trying to use stock kernel to see if it is FK that is the culprit. FK shouldn't be the issue, but perhaps something screwed up during the flashing process? Now I'm essentially just asking you to do trial and error
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Last thing I can think of is trying to use stock kernel to see if it is FK that is the culprit. FK shouldn't be the issue, but perhaps something screwed up during the flashing process? Now I'm essentially just asking you to do trial and error
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Nah man, I trust FK more than stock
I have had similar issues with stock as well.
What are your battery statistics?
Anomaly65 said:
Nah man, I trust FK more than stock
I have had similar issues with stock as well.
What are your battery statistics?
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Note that I'm in Beta 3 and running its stock kernel so I don't really see the usefulness of giving my battery stats, but yes, battery life for me has been good and unaffected by wifi draining.
Inflection said:
Note that I'm in Beta 3 and running its stock kernel so I don't really see the usefulness of giving my battery stats, but yes, battery life for me has been good and unaffected by wifi draining.
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Whoa, how the hell do you even get 2 hours 17 mins sot with 85% still remaining?
Is it really just me suffering from this wifi drain bug?
Anomaly65 said:
Whoa, how the hell do you even get 2 hours 17 mins sot with 85% still remaining?
Is it really just me suffering from this wifi drain bug?
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It's most likely not just you, but based on my perusal of the 3T forums (especially on the FK thread because that's most relevant to how you set up your phone), not many people are facing this issue. Does betterbattery stats not show anything funky or out of the ordinary? Can you post a screenshot of your betterybattery stats including the kernel wakelocks, alarms, and partial wakelocks page?
Inflection said:
It's most likely not just you, but based on my perusal of the 3T forums (especially on the FK thread because that's most relevant to how you set up your phone), not many people are facing this issue. Does betterbattery stats not show anything funky or out of the ordinary? Can you post a screenshot of your betterybattery stats including the kernel wakelocks, alarms, and partial wakelocks page?
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Check these out. I am totally fed up. I think I might have a faulty unit.
Getting 4% drain on standby!
Anomaly65 said:
Check these out. I am totally fed up. I think I might have a faulty unit.
Getting 4% drain on standby!
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I'm beginning to think it's not wifi, but the app Saavn. It may act differently when on wifi vs on cellular data and remain active constantly when on wifi. I google searched the app and its potential of being poorly optimized app, and there are reports of it never turning off and running in the background. If that is the case, it should be showing up on BBS as more of a drain, but for some reason it isn't. Still, try uninstalling the app and see what happens.
In the end, if this doesn't solve the issue, I'm beginning to think a factory reset maybe in order. I wish you also gave me BBS alarm wakeups page because that would help see if Saavn is constantly firing off alarms or not.
Go to your "Location settings" and into the 3 dot menu in upper right. Turn everything off.
do you have wifi calling on? turn it off and see
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Go to your "Location settings" and into the 3 dot menu in upper right. Turn everything off.
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I have them turned off since day 1
masri1987 said:
do you have wifi calling on? turn it off and see
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Where exactly is the setting to turn it off?
Anomaly65 said:
I have them turned off since day 1
Where exactly is the setting to turn it off?
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settings > sim and network > look towards the bottom
masri1987 said:
settings > sim and network > look towards the bottom
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I don't have any option to turn off wifi calling in there. I am running the beta 7.1.1 now though. But the problem still persists. Too much drain when using wifi, it's being shown as android system drain. I've seen many people reporting it, so it's not just me. But for the life of me, I can't figure out what's causing it!
Issue resolved with latest 4.1.0 and some usage pattern changes. Mod, please close the thread. Thank you!

Worse battery life since the Oreo update

Since the update, I have definitely experienced worse battery life, especially overnight on standby/idle and also overall when I'm at home on WiFi in general, I have read a few posts about the November security patch causing worse battery on a lot of different phones so I don't know if it is because of that, I just hope either the December patch sorts it, or HMD make the battery optimisation better in the next update patch from them soon, has anyone else noticed worse battery performance since Oreo?
Doesn't seem any different to me ill be honest.
For me it even seems to be a little bit better than on Nougat.
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
No battery drain here, my opinion seems the same good as on nougat to
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Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
mikote2000 said:
Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
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Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
Sorry, I'm a Spanish speaker and I made a free translation. I attach you a screenshot. Maybe it can help you to find the menu. It's the first option (Option which is switched on).
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Asos2XZUuAPZnK1E20Hva6npEr2INw
mitchst2 said:
Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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Ok already using that, was looking for some sort of global switch.
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
MrBelter said:
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
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Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
mitchst2 said:
Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
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Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
dannejanne said:
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
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Battery on oreo is awesome, if you want less energy use during sleep use "naptime" from playstore.
MrBelter said:
Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
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Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
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Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
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If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
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If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
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The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
mitchst2 said:
The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
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Same here, I have most of my apps disabled apart from things that actually need to be running like PingID for work authentication / MS Authenticator / emails and 4 or 5 other things.
Try "data saver" if you have that option in your OREO ROM
Yes I did say DATA saver
Go to Settings - type "data saver" in the search box - switch it on
Works magic for me with a standard OREO ROM and nothing else.
since 8.1 update, battery draining has been worse

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